Here It Comes: New York Fed President Says "If Economy Weakens Further, Would Consider Negative Rates"

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Remember when the Fed's dots - less than a month ago - suggested there would be 4 rate hikes in 2016? Ah, the memories. Well, you can not only forget that (now that the market is estimating the next rate hike will come in October if ever), but it appears that the Fed will follow Kocherlakota's advice after all and not only cut rates (the possibility of a January rate cut now is 10%), but will pass go, and collect negative rates:

  • DUDLEY: IF ECONOMY WEAKENED, WOULD CONSIDER NEGATIVE RATES

After today's atrocious, recessionary data, one can be certain that the Fed is furiously considering negative rates.

While the comment came from the Dudley Q&A, his full speech can be found here.

And just to add confusion, here is a spurious Bloomberg headline which will hardly aid matters:

  • YELLEN SAID IN 2010 JAPAN-STYLE DEFLATION `WORST-CASE SCENARIO'

So both NIRP and more QE, just as anyone who is not a tenured economist or drama major predicted.

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Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:47 | 7050222 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 11:47 | 7050729 economessed
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True that.  What we need is to abolish this criminal, meddling cartel and let the market work.  The Federal Reserve must be eliminated.  That is the only solution that has a chance of working.  Negative interest rates?  Call that what it is:  the end of the value of money.  Congratulations, Fed:  Your experimental incompetence ruins American lives. 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 12:09 | 7050844 Uchtdorf
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Yet the most recent iteration of the Audit the Fed bill just died in the Senate. There are so many guilty parties in DC that it's hard to keep this secret combination secret much longer. When the sheeple, what's left of them, realize how they've been hornswaggled, oh, the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:47 | 7050223 U4 eee aaa
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You could set your watch by these crooks!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 10:00 | 7050226 flaminratzazz
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Max the credit card and buy food, ammo and tampax

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 11:36 | 7050665 opt out
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easy to get excited in times like these. please - stay calm and remember: sticky side down.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:47 | 7050228 franzpick
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The dot plots - were bullet holes.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:48 | 7050229 kamikun
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All your deposits are belong to us.

Make your time ... deposited withdrawls now, people!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:48 | 7050230 katchum
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That was fast, only a month after rate hike.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 10:00 | 7050231 two hoots
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NIRP is the Federal Reserve’s final failing grade.  All should be forced to resign.

 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:51 | 7050234 kamikun
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more dups... sorry

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 10:56 | 7050235 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

I (some number here)..licated myself.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:49 | 7050237 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:49 | 7050239 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:53 | 7050240 kamikun
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dup

"I just keep saying the same thing!"

"Yes, sir."

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:50 | 7050241 kamikun
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dup...

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:49 | 7050242 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:49 | 7050243 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:50 | 7050247 Panic Mode
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Negative rates after interest rate rise?? That means you are slappying yourself in front of everyone.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:50 | 7050249 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:53 | 7050263 _ConanTheLibert...
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That's why you should post this multiple times.

/s

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:50 | 7050250 two hoots
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The last thing we need is the Federal Reserve coming to the rescue after this falls to pieces.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 10:06 | 7050395 gdogus erectus
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Ok, stop that. No. Really.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 11:17 | 7050561 WorkingClassMan
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That's far more than two hoots, sir!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:50 | 7050251 StackShinyStuff
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There is a glitch in the Matrix...

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:55 | 7050273 _ConanTheLibert...
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Ghost in the machine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Machine_(The_Police_album)

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:51 | 7050253 R.R.Raskolnikov
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So he is admitting that the economy is not doing well. Really, it is crazy why does not someone fire that guy for proposing such things like this...

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:51 | 7050254 Omega_Man
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yes -20 %, that should fix it

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:52 | 7050257 Racer
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Got to keep stawks up at any price, f*ck main street

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 11:52 | 7050258 U4 eee aaa
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.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:52 | 7050264 NEOSERF
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If YOU don't make your savings work for us, WE will make YOUR savings work for us...perhaps Bernie is the right President for this new world.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:54 | 7050271 herkomilchen
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Markets should be soaring after a comment like that....but they aren't!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:54 | 7050274 Racer
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And what have near negative rates for YEARS done???

 

 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:54 | 7050275 Seasmoke
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I do know one thing. When the collapse happens ZeroHedge servers will not be there to let us know.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:59 | 7050323 viahj
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and that is how you will know :-)

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 10:01 | 7050339 Hubbs
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Internet kill switch. How convenient.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:55 | 7050278 Vlad the Inhaler
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Pitchforks and torches.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:55 | 7050282 ghostzapper
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Jawboned outta FAZ at $55.10 for about +18% between two spins.  Covered DB short at $21.12 from 29ish combined entries.  Probably wrap up the week.

Got Spoos aiming at 1830ish and Russy to 975ish but between now and that who knows what tricks they pull so I'm out for now.  1620ish still intermediate.

 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:56 | 7050284 Truth Eater
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Any pockets of wealth are targets for the blood-sucking devils.  I hear this breed of vampires is allergic to silver and gold.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:56 | 7050288 Omega_Man
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silver bullet should work

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:56 | 7050287 chairman mao
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ZH's prophecy coming true?

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:56 | 7050292 indaknow
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Delays everywhere this morning. Fed in panic mode

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:57 | 7050296 blown income
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 refi into a negative mortgage  rate ..yeay!!!!

 

 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:58 | 7050308 Hubbs
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The FED will never admit is has totally fucked up. They will try anything, now matter how crazy, to avoid having to own up to the fact that they do not deserve to run ANY bank, much less the FED.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:58 | 7050309 mayhem_korner
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Fed is tightwalking a precarious line between continued, out of control deflation and a bank-run induced hyperinflation.

One of the problems with fractional reserve banking is that it doesn't take much of a panic for things to run away.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:59 | 7050310 Hubbs
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double post.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:58 | 7050311 medium giraffe
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Fucking nirped, bitches.

 

That is all.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:59 | 7050315 Aubiekong
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Another story of why you should be turning any extra federal debt notes into bullion that you hold in your hands...  Money that you can hold, hide, and pass on to others all without anybody else knowing...

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:59 | 7050316 indaknow
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What is the user warning at the topof this screen? WTF

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 09:59 | 7050317 Janet Shalom Be...
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The Fed should watch the classic movie "Hang 'Em High"

because when this credit/debt/currency bubble bursts, the angry mob public is going to be looking for justice.

and the Fed will be called to account for their crimes (what's known and what's unknown).  

 

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