US gov't did back the Shah in Iran and kept him in power until the revolution tossed out the US gov't and they took back their country. That's when Iran became "the bad guys." Iran has oil too.
No proof acceptable in a court has ever been produced placing hijackers on the 9/11 planes. It's been quite the Jedi mind trick to get the world to believe that.
That airplanes crashed is not disputed nor is it proof of 'hijacker' identity. No authenticated passenger manifests, no authenticated ticket stubs, no sworn testimony from airline personnel, no authenticated video from the 'hijack' airports and no DNA matching. Nothing.
That the FBI says it and The New York Times or CNN, et al, repeat it is not proof.
...and one went right through 200+ feet of reinforced concrete and solid steel like butter, then about 20' of the nose emerged out the other side completely intact and unscathed, right?
That makes a lot of sense, I think you're onto something... /s
Incontrovertible evidence... that's laughable man, really. Told to you by the same people that said Saddam had WMD's, the same who told you Gaddafi had to go just before the U. ISIS. A. destroyed what was likely the closest humanity will get to a utopian society before too long for gold, instability and oil? The same people that are saying the U.S. economy is full steam ahead? The same people that are giving heavy weaponry to bona fide terrorists yet trying to take American citizens' firearms at every turn? NIST, 9/11 Commission?
If I paint the head of my dick white and tell you it's an icecream cone will there be a happy ending to your idiocy?
You don't now the difference between incontrovertible evidence and incontrovertible lies.
I wonder how you shit not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground...
Explain how a delicate, aluminum airframe and skin goes through 200' of reinforced concrete and steel at close to or at about 500 knots, to emerge out the other side intact.
While you're at it, explain to us all, particularly the pilots in the audience, how a 767 can fly at close to 500 knots at 1000' altitude. Please, go ahead, explain how that is done and that is as close an approximation of the speed of the holograph hitting the North Tower from landmark measurements as has been made and there is a rough concensus on this amongst experts.
Explain to us all how these things happen when in reality, that concept foreign to you, they are impossible. Any pilot in here will confirm the latter but the fact you need the first confirmed at all for yourself is total and utter insanity.
Please, go ahead and explain away, the floor is yours.
Waiting...
The troll is waiting for you to enlighten him regarding the questions asked that you don't have a fucking clue how to answer despite holding all these illusions as some kind of truth?
I worked in 120 Broadway at the time. I was walking down Trinity St to go and meet my gf for a coffee at the Winter Garden at the WFC. She worked at Cantor in the N Tower. I heard the first plane come in, I saw it hit the tower and was physically sick when standing with her we saw the first jumpers.
I stood in disbelief and watched the second plance crash into the South tower and I was back at my desk trying to get in touch with my cousin and best friends at Cantor when the N Tower came down and changed all of our lives forever.
I lived at 88 Greenwich St in Penthouse 2 with my gf. We couldn't get back in for two weeks because there was half a turbine fan from one of the jets on our balcony along with various body parts and human slime spread across the roof.
So excuse me while I tell you to fuck the hell off you tin foil hat wearing waste of space. Because it happened and I was there and lost more than I will ever be able to face.
I also had a half a filing cabinet and a chair base along with tons of paper and debris in my fucKing living room. I was at least 4 hundred yards away on a high floor.
So FUCK YOU - you have no idea what you are talking about.
Massive explosions and building collapses tend to throw bodies and all kinds of things all over the place, just so that is clear for you.
You were told there was part of an engine on your balcony or you saw it?
Pictures of the "fan" or it didn't happen.
I call BS on you Mr. Suit-and-tied, city-wide, hypnotized.
Give me a picture and change my whole perception but that's not going to happen.
The only recognizable photo or ID of any engine or part thereof that day ever publicized that I know of was the engine on Church & Murray (that flew four blocks, fell over 800 feet and barely cracked the pavement) which was half the size of a P&W or GE engine on a 767.
They planted the wrong engine, cool huh?
Even Lloyde the taxi driver at the pentagram was in on this psy-op, he's on film lying his face off and then spilling the truth when he realizes he's caught in his own lies of cover-up but people like yourself will never wake-up.
There were no planes on that day hitting anything. Not in PA, not at the pentagram, not in Manhattan. Infamous nose-out footage proves it.
The two planes in Manhattan were military-grade holography which can contain sound. This tech was "advertised" long before 2001.
The "plane" that allegedly was supposed to have crashed in PA was the holograph that was supposed to hit building 7 but apparently something went wrong and they had to "pull it" without a reason and fake a crash in Shanksville at that point. Quick, dig a hole and start a diesel fire before the reporters show-up...
Flights 11 and 77 never existed, period. No feuling, no taxi, no take-off. Nothing logged. Nonexistent.
The most accomplished pilot in the history of mankind, as well as many seasoned pilots, have said it is impossible to execute the maneuvers from altitude in a 767 and hit a 200' wide window dead center on the first try as in the case of the North tower. Impossible for these guys but possible for some fallafel chef who can't fly a Cesna? Impossible.
Remote piloting is possible but first there has to be a plane.
No wreckage catalogued, zero.
Cell phone calls made from commercial aircraft?
Space-based DEW were used to disintegrate most of the concrete and reinforced steel in the buildings, converting it into fine powder. Look at D. Judy Woods web site and check-out the pictures. Massive circular holes drilled vertically in the buildings from the top down to ground level. Thermite, mini-nukes, etc, etc., etc. are/were nothing but distractions.
Evidence of Hutchison Effect literally everywhere.
The rubble piles should have been hundreds of feet high.
Ever wonder why the molten material in the tub could not be quenched by days of irrigation. Nope, not a blob of thermite.
We will never know the truth but this arabs with boxcutters bullshit needs to end. Quite a few of the alleged "terrorists" have been found to be alive and well and going about there lives in the ME.
Every downvote is proof that some people on ZH are just as gullible, lacking information and even common sense and are just as cocked-up brainwashed as any other sheep out there.
MI6 iplemented the Al Saud family, MI6 agent Mohammed abdul Wahhab creted Wahhabism with the Sauds, Russian and british intelligence agent Muhammed ibn al afghani salafism.
The Saudis are the lapdogs of Israel and the US, and the scapegoat for 9/11. Mossad,MI6 and CIA with some neocons orchestrated it, no mystery there.
Since Snowden, this admin has behaved as if it is being blackmailed. Release terrorists, erase red lines, apologize to enemies, make deals with enemies, alienate allies. Now that Cuba (id ergo Russia, Iran, China) have a hellfire missile, better start working on the next gen because this one is being reverse engineered.
The Hellfire missile arrived in Cuba in 2011, and it makes the news now? More BS stirring by those who oppose US rapprochement with Cuba.
The Hellfire is old tech, easily jammed and of little interest to Russia. The whole things stinks of someone in the Pentagon (or CIA?) interfering with foreign policy, which is supposedly solely the President's responsibility (according to the Constitution?).
Yep - US military kneeling at the command of an opposing force - as posted above - like common drunk drivers. No problem . That 's what it's come to? Fukin disgrace for whoever gave that order.
Yep, and shouldn't every worker that is employed by the MIC quit? How about every person who has a pension invested in the MIC? How about every one who works in the Financial Fraud called our banks? How about every one with a bank account?
There is nothing inherently unprincipled about having a bank account, banks can be part of a free society. The problem with the current banking system is its fractional reserve nature and the fact that any currency deposited is no longer the property of the depositor. This means leaving any large sums of money in the current system is risky and allows unscrupulous bankers to gamble with your money. If you just have a few thousand in there for everyday transactions the convenience outweighs the risk. The banks can print as much money as they need, they could care less if they have yours or not, but having most of your assets outside of their control gives you a great deal of freedom, and limits their ability to threaten you financially. It also keeps you off the state's radar when it goes looking for victims.
Kerry and Rouhani came up with this "diplomatic" solution. We'll never know, unless one of the sailors breaks the nondisclosure form that was presented to him immediately upon release.
No combat military personnel should ever be ordered to surrender. FYI - no USMC fighting unit has ever surrendered. Pretty good record if I don't say so myself.
Smedley, I was never true blue but this made me physically sick. No crew I ever commanded would have allowed me to "apologize," nor would I allow my crew to laze about like they were in the dorm lounge, nibbling on fruit. Fucking sit at attention with your hands on your knees, you got nothing to smile about.
I can't even get my head around that phrase "surrender" . Maybe a Sgt. after shitting on the floor, puking on a Gunny and asking for another round. No - not even then
I don't think this event helped the morale of the fleet. Again, I think the Admiral needs to give the fleet an explanation. You can't lead from the rear.
So remind why the crew was carrying passports. Routine event, yup, American sailors on their knees, on their own ship, with Iranian guns to their backs. Routine. Happens allah time.
The "commander" who apologized, if that was of his own volition, he should be prosecuted under UCMJ. But that's not what happened. Nor was he coerced. Too much relaxed conversation, posture and smiling.
Guarantee the "commander" and his crew, the first people they met upon their release was govt lawyers with nondisclosure forms. Guarangoddamfuckinteeit.
"Like most recent presidents, BO is also a well-trained actor. He rarely deviates from his scripted lines and maintains theatrical poise, especially with his trusty teleprompter to guide him. A salesman, his toughest job is to sell a very bad product: US government deception, chiefly the enormous imperial debt and secrecy amassed over the past fifty years. Lastly, BO is a puppet, a pretender to the throne rather than a natural heir. His slogan, "Hope & Change" deceived millions of simple and naïve people on promises he cannot really deliver, much as the pizza delivery boy cannot give you the winning lotto ticket. Sadly, the first and probably last Black American (Kenyan some claim) president will go down in history as a clever fraud. As a former limo driver myself, I glimpsed his uniform very early in the game."
Wars coming whether we like it or not . The next prez better be good wartime counslyetti . This ones got us weak and looking in the wrong direction. The faces of those generals at the sotu speech tells me all I need to know. So my advice to anyone of delicate constitution is the coming events in the months and years ahead are going to overwhelm them .
The faces of those 'Generals' has more to do with the fact that the truth about the incapability of the US Military is out there now, everyone knows that you've spent 14 Trillion dollars on worthless equipment, to be directed by arm chair bureaucrats who are fighting the last war.
It was the zionist council on foreign relations with execution by the mossad.
US gov't did back the Shah in Iran and kept him in power until the revolution tossed out the US gov't and they took back their country. That's when Iran became "the bad guys." Iran has oil too.
The 'alleged' hijackers were Saudi.
No proof acceptable in a court has ever been produced placing hijackers on the 9/11 planes. It's been quite the Jedi mind trick to get the world to believe that.
They don't ask dead guys to stand trial in my world. Where is your world by the way?
That airplanes crashed is not disputed nor is it proof of 'hijacker' identity. No authenticated passenger manifests, no authenticated ticket stubs, no sworn testimony from airline personnel, no authenticated video from the 'hijack' airports and no DNA matching. Nothing.
That the FBI says it and The New York Times or CNN, et al, repeat it is not proof.
"That airplanes crashed is not disputed..."
Oh yes it certainly is and by a growing number of individuals, finally, after all these years.
So after your first comment you go on to contradict yourself yet still think planes that didn't exist crashed at all?
Planes hit the towers and I've not seen anything that convinces me otherwise.
...and one went right through 200+ feet of reinforced concrete and solid steel like butter, then about 20' of the nose emerged out the other side completely intact and unscathed, right?
That makes a lot of sense, I think you're onto something... /s
And I think you are a troll or remarkably gullible.
You don't think evidently, that's a problem.
Now I'll just go with troll.
We are swimming in evidence that is incontrovertible and here you are promoting dog shit.
I'll just go with delusional hypocrite.
Incontrovertible evidence... that's laughable man, really. Told to you by the same people that said Saddam had WMD's, the same who told you Gaddafi had to go just before the U. ISIS. A. destroyed what was likely the closest humanity will get to a utopian society before too long for gold, instability and oil? The same people that are saying the U.S. economy is full steam ahead? The same people that are giving heavy weaponry to bona fide terrorists yet trying to take American citizens' firearms at every turn? NIST, 9/11 Commission?
If I paint the head of my dick white and tell you it's an icecream cone will there be a happy ending to your idiocy?
You don't now the difference between incontrovertible evidence and incontrovertible lies.
I wonder how you shit not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground...
Explain how a delicate, aluminum airframe and skin goes through 200' of reinforced concrete and steel at close to or at about 500 knots, to emerge out the other side intact.
While you're at it, explain to us all, particularly the pilots in the audience, how a 767 can fly at close to 500 knots at 1000' altitude. Please, go ahead, explain how that is done and that is as close an approximation of the speed of the holograph hitting the North Tower from landmark measurements as has been made and there is a rough concensus on this amongst experts.
Explain to us all how these things happen when in reality, that concept foreign to you, they are impossible. Any pilot in here will confirm the latter but the fact you need the first confirmed at all for yourself is total and utter insanity.
Please, go ahead and explain away, the floor is yours.
Waiting...
The troll is waiting for you to enlighten him regarding the questions asked that you don't have a fucking clue how to answer despite holding all these illusions as some kind of truth?
I worked in 120 Broadway at the time. I was walking down Trinity St to go and meet my gf for a coffee at the Winter Garden at the WFC. She worked at Cantor in the N Tower. I heard the first plane come in, I saw it hit the tower and was physically sick when standing with her we saw the first jumpers.
I stood in disbelief and watched the second plance crash into the South tower and I was back at my desk trying to get in touch with my cousin and best friends at Cantor when the N Tower came down and changed all of our lives forever.
I lived at 88 Greenwich St in Penthouse 2 with my gf. We couldn't get back in for two weeks because there was half a turbine fan from one of the jets on our balcony along with various body parts and human slime spread across the roof.
So excuse me while I tell you to fuck the hell off you tin foil hat wearing waste of space. Because it happened and I was there and lost more than I will ever be able to face.
I also had a half a filing cabinet and a chair base along with tons of paper and debris in my fucKing living room. I was at least 4 hundred yards away on a high floor.
So FUCK YOU - you have no idea what you are talking about.
Massive explosions and building collapses tend to throw bodies and all kinds of things all over the place, just so that is clear for you.
You were told there was part of an engine on your balcony or you saw it?
Pictures of the "fan" or it didn't happen.
I call BS on you Mr. Suit-and-tied, city-wide, hypnotized.
Give me a picture and change my whole perception but that's not going to happen.
The only recognizable photo or ID of any engine or part thereof that day ever publicized that I know of was the engine on Church & Murray (that flew four blocks, fell over 800 feet and barely cracked the pavement) which was half the size of a P&W or GE engine on a 767.
They planted the wrong engine, cool huh?
Even Lloyde the taxi driver at the pentagram was in on this psy-op, he's on film lying his face off and then spilling the truth when he realizes he's caught in his own lies of cover-up but people like yourself will never wake-up.
Oh, thanks and same to you, hypocrite.
There were no planes on that day hitting anything. Not in PA, not at the pentagram, not in Manhattan. Infamous nose-out footage proves it.
The two planes in Manhattan were military-grade holography which can contain sound. This tech was "advertised" long before 2001.
The "plane" that allegedly was supposed to have crashed in PA was the holograph that was supposed to hit building 7 but apparently something went wrong and they had to "pull it" without a reason and fake a crash in Shanksville at that point. Quick, dig a hole and start a diesel fire before the reporters show-up...
Flights 11 and 77 never existed, period. No feuling, no taxi, no take-off. Nothing logged. Nonexistent.
The most accomplished pilot in the history of mankind, as well as many seasoned pilots, have said it is impossible to execute the maneuvers from altitude in a 767 and hit a 200' wide window dead center on the first try as in the case of the North tower. Impossible for these guys but possible for some fallafel chef who can't fly a Cesna? Impossible.
Remote piloting is possible but first there has to be a plane.
No wreckage catalogued, zero.
Cell phone calls made from commercial aircraft?
Space-based DEW were used to disintegrate most of the concrete and reinforced steel in the buildings, converting it into fine powder. Look at D. Judy Woods web site and check-out the pictures. Massive circular holes drilled vertically in the buildings from the top down to ground level. Thermite, mini-nukes, etc, etc., etc. are/were nothing but distractions.
Evidence of Hutchison Effect literally everywhere.
The rubble piles should have been hundreds of feet high.
Ever wonder why the molten material in the tub could not be quenched by days of irrigation. Nope, not a blob of thermite.
We will never know the truth but this arabs with boxcutters bullshit needs to end. Quite a few of the alleged "terrorists" have been found to be alive and well and going about there lives in the ME.
Every downvote is proof that some people on ZH are just as gullible, lacking information and even common sense and are just as cocked-up brainwashed as any other sheep out there.
Agreed. Lots of Kool Aid drinkers here on 9/11 and the ensuing US govt coverup.
I would add the Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook to that as well, among other false flags.
And... Building 7.
Hey dude! That's a cool tin foil hat you're wearing! Can you make one for me?
And that's why you're able to post on the internet soul glow. And to live beyond your means. Your tribe did well. Beware the future.
The people of the US could have done that without the 9-11 event and perpetual war for the Zionist state.
If you still believe that 911 was done by 19 Arabs , you need to remove your head out of your ass ASAP.
Unless if you were joking.
Who did it?
MI6 iplemented the Al Saud family, MI6 agent Mohammed abdul Wahhab creted Wahhabism with the Sauds, Russian and british intelligence agent Muhammed ibn al afghani salafism.
The Saudis are the lapdogs of Israel and the US, and the scapegoat for 9/11. Mossad,MI6 and CIA with some neocons orchestrated it, no mystery there.
Oh what bullshit. If there was a single thing the man got right during his presidency, it was the Iran deal.
Since Snowden, this admin has behaved as if it is being blackmailed. Release terrorists, erase red lines, apologize to enemies, make deals with enemies, alienate allies. Now that Cuba (id ergo Russia, Iran, China) have a hellfire missile, better start working on the next gen because this one is being reverse engineered.
The Hellfire missile arrived in Cuba in 2011, and it makes the news now? More BS stirring by those who oppose US rapprochement with Cuba.
The Hellfire is old tech, easily jammed and of little interest to Russia. The whole things stinks of someone in the Pentagon (or CIA?) interfering with foreign policy, which is supposedly solely the President's responsibility (according to the Constitution?).
hellfire old tech where you been?
This is a CFR pivot not unlike Nixon's with regard to China in the 70s and the expectation to start a war between Iran and S.A. soon. Please catch up.
A routine event handled on all sides in a routine manner. Much ado about nothing. A tempest in a teacup. So please, let it go.
Yep - US military kneeling at the command of an opposing force - as posted above - like common drunk drivers. No problem . That 's what it's come to? Fukin disgrace for whoever gave that order.
Every member of the US military should just do the honorable thing and quit. Being a killer for the state is much more pathetic than being a drunk.
Yep, and shouldn't every worker that is employed by the MIC quit? How about every person who has a pension invested in the MIC? How about every one who works in the Financial Fraud called our banks? How about every one with a bank account?
Oh and fuk you
Yes, yes (sell and buy gold), yes, and just keep enough in there to pay bills.
Ahh - there it is ... Just enough to pay bills. Typical, please stand by your 'principles' unless it inconveniences you .
There is nothing inherently unprincipled about having a bank account, banks can be part of a free society. The problem with the current banking system is its fractional reserve nature and the fact that any currency deposited is no longer the property of the depositor. This means leaving any large sums of money in the current system is risky and allows unscrupulous bankers to gamble with your money. If you just have a few thousand in there for everyday transactions the convenience outweighs the risk. The banks can print as much money as they need, they could care less if they have yours or not, but having most of your assets outside of their control gives you a great deal of freedom, and limits their ability to threaten you financially. It also keeps you off the state's radar when it goes looking for victims.
Whatever helps you live with and rationalise the compromise of your 'principles'. Good luck.
"Everybody else does it" isn't good enough.
Well just stop
Kerry and Rouhani came up with this "diplomatic" solution. We'll never know, unless one of the sailors breaks the nondisclosure form that was presented to him immediately upon release.
No combat military personnel should ever be ordered to surrender. FYI - no USMC fighting unit has ever surrendered. Pretty good record if I don't say so myself.
Smedley, I was never true blue but this made me physically sick. No crew I ever commanded would have allowed me to "apologize," nor would I allow my crew to laze about like they were in the dorm lounge, nibbling on fruit. Fucking sit at attention with your hands on your knees, you got nothing to smile about.
Unless Kerry said it was okay, of course. Fucker.
Good on you
My apology would go like this: "Name, rank, serial number".
I want to hear from the Admiral. Is he trying to arrange another Gulf of Tonkin Incident?
I can't even get my head around that phrase "surrender" . Maybe a Sgt. after shitting on the floor, puking on a Gunny and asking for another round. No - not even then
I don't think this event helped the morale of the fleet. Again, I think the Admiral needs to give the fleet an explanation. You can't lead from the rear.
Yeah, Hitler had exactly the same ideas. It cost him 6 armies and 1 million casualties. I guess you have read Mein Kampf and liked it?
So remind why the crew was carrying passports. Routine event, yup, American sailors on their knees, on their own ship, with Iranian guns to their backs. Routine. Happens allah time.
The "commander" who apologized, if that was of his own volition, he should be prosecuted under UCMJ. But that's not what happened. Nor was he coerced. Too much relaxed conversation, posture and smiling.
Guarantee the "commander" and his crew, the first people they met upon their release was govt lawyers with nondisclosure forms. Guarangoddamfuckinteeit.
Prez O Tool.
"Like most recent presidents, BO is also a well-trained actor. He rarely deviates from his scripted lines and maintains theatrical poise, especially with his trusty teleprompter to guide him. A salesman, his toughest job is to sell a very bad product: US government deception, chiefly the enormous imperial debt and secrecy amassed over the past fifty years. Lastly, BO is a puppet, a pretender to the throne rather than a natural heir. His slogan, "Hope & Change" deceived millions of simple and naïve people on promises he cannot really deliver, much as the pizza delivery boy cannot give you the winning lotto ticket. Sadly, the first and probably last Black American (Kenyan some claim) president will go down in history as a clever fraud. As a former limo driver myself, I glimpsed his uniform very early in the game."
US Presidents - Actor, Chauffeur, Salesman, PuppetWars coming whether we like it or not . The next prez better be good wartime counslyetti . This ones got us weak and looking in the wrong direction. The faces of those generals at the sotu speech tells me all I need to know. So my advice to anyone of delicate constitution is the coming events in the months and years ahead are going to overwhelm them .
The faces of those 'Generals' has more to do with the fact that the truth about the incapability of the US Military is out there now, everyone knows that you've spent 14 Trillion dollars on worthless equipment, to be directed by arm chair bureaucrats who are fighting the last war.