Obama Takes Iran Victory Lap - Live Feed
Things got a little rocky last week when Iran seized 10 sailors and 2 US Navy boats near Farsi Island on the eve of Obama's final state-of-the-union address, but by Saturday ("Implementation Day") the crewmen and their vessels were back in American hands, four American hostages including Jason Rezaian were free, and John Kerry was in Vienna to put the finishing touches on the administration's crowing achievement.
As expected, the IAEA ruled that Tehran had stuck to its commitments under last year’s nuclear accord.
Moments after the ruling was handed down, the US and the EU each lifted nuclear-related financial and economic sanctions on the “pariah state,” much to the chagrin of Israel and Tehran’s regional rivals who view the West’s rapprochement with the Iranians with deep suspicion.
At 10:45 ET, Obama is set to address the American people who undoubtedly have all manner of questions about America's new best friend in the Mid-East.
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He is such a flaming homo sapiens ;-)
Looney
Mentally deluded?
It doesn't really matter though, as there will be a mass rush for the exit shortly as it has just been discovered that the German Chancellor Angela Merkel is allegedly ‘Hitler’s Daughter’ and therefore we will witness the rise of the 4th Reich......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/the-fix-is-in-franc...
sneak that poor man a pack of cigarettes...his skin needs more yellowing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/01/15/army-tables...
Take that.
with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnIGe64-cPw
"Inconveneint" facts for Soweto on his delusional gun control stance:
Some Inconvenient Gun Facts for Liberals (from the NYT, no less!)FOR those of us who argue in favor of gun safety laws, there are a few inconvenient facts.
We liberals are sometimes glib about equating guns and danger. In fact, it’s complicated: The number of guns in America has increased by more than 50 percent since 1993, and in that same period the gun homicide rate in the United States has dropped by half.
Then there are the policies that liberals fought for, starting with the assault weapons ban. A 113-page study found no clear indication that it reduced shooting deaths for the 10 years it was in effect. That’s because the ban was poorly drafted, and because even before the ban, assault weapons accounted for only 2 percent of guns used in crimes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/opinion/sunday/some-inconvenient-gun-f...
Its great that we got our 4 wrongfully imprisoned hostages back...but at what cost? By returning 7 Iranians lawfully charged or convicted of crimes? What kind of message does that send tp Iran and the rest of the world. It now says we pay a ransome for hostages. Its great that Obama got a deal to get Iran to put their nuclear bomb development aspirations on ice. That is if you believe Iran will comply (I do not) and that you trust the inspections and verifications will work (I do not). Lastly, its great that sanctions on Iran are being removed and we are allowing them access to over $100 billion in frozen funds. They plan on buying over 100 Airbus airplanes with some of the money - good for the EU economy and Airbus. But what of the rest of the money? Will they provide more cash to destabilizing groups (Hamas and Hezbollah to name a couple) and continue to export terror?
In the long term the Obama Administration has just legitimized the oppressive tyrannical Iranian regime (Even after Obama and Clinton assisted with the downfall of Qaddafi and want to change regimes in Syria - what type of logic is this?) What a change of fortunes for Iran. During Obama's first term the Iranian leadership was weak and when revolt started Obama had the ability to respond to requests from those trying to take down the Ayatollah and his despotic regime. Obama's response was to do nothing. Now he has capitulated to their demands, strengthened them and emboldened them. He may be taking a victory lap, but someday when one of his successors has to deal with the mess that he created will the world remember it?
If I were a despotic world leader I would love to have Obama sitting on the other side of the table negotiating with me because I know that he worries more about his public appearance than striking a good deal. As an adversary if you package a deal for Obama which looks good to his ignorant public but which in fact is a great deal for you, the adversary, you will get everything you asked for. Take your bows Barry, your ignorant public may adore you, but the people in the know understand the real damage you have done..and lets not forget our allies in the mid-east. When Israel and Saudi Arabia agree that the US fucked up big time there is obviously some truth in their fears.
I can't wait for Obama to be done and gone.
"In the long term the Obama Administration has just legitimized the oppressive tyrannical Iranian regime "
Haha! More opprsevie than Saudi Arabia's regime? Give me a break. You=not smart. Plain and simple. People like you should get your teeth knocked out for being blind and stupid.
Progressive liberal democraps never let the truth or facts deter them from jamming their bullsht agenda down the throats of tax paying US citizens.
Did he catch something at the bath house? I heard the little swimmers can be carriers....
The only "Lap" I want to see him take is his perp walk lap.
I don't often say this, but I think this is a good thing obama is doing. Anything that avoids another idiotic and wasteful Iraw style war is a good thing. Even if it just postpones it a while, it is a good thing. I don't want another 5 or 6 k US soldiers killed, I don't want another 3-4 T put on the national debt, and I don't want a couple million iranians killed just to make israel happy. Im sure this has its flaws (it was done by obama and kerry, afterall) but it sure beats the alternative - war. Whatever reasons we are told we need to use military force are no more true than what we were told leading up to the iraq fiasco.
Your point makes a lot of sense. I despise 99% of what Obozo did but he's right on this one. Another important point here is that a stronger Iran serves as a counterweight against Saudi Arabia. It increases oil supply, gives us options where to buy oil from and keeps those idiots over there busy with each other. Yes I understand there are nuclear ambitions and all that horrible shit that the ayatollahs are pulling - but the horrible terror backed by the Saudis needs to be reigned in and if this step helps, I'm all for it.
Frankly, I'm AMAZED this went through given how we're in bed with the Saudis, ISIS etc.
Great post!
On the surface he seems to have done the right thing.....that scares the hell out of me (he is out of character). There must be another game going on. Our boats being lost????? Two boats with GPS don't know where they are?????? They fired a rocket next to our boat......heaven forbid! There is a game plan we don't know about or our idiots in power are dumber than I thought.
Opinions about Blahblah O'blahblah aside, Iran's the big, big winner. They are going to be something to contend with giving the new alignment vis-a-vie Russia, China, India, etc. coupled with the decline of NATO countries.
This ain't going to be your granddaddy's Iran. And if the U.S. didn't like the EU cozying up to Russia, well just watch and see who Iran favors with all the new trade. Already ordering 140 aircraft from Airbus.
Furthermore greenskeeper carl, there was never going to be another "Iraq-style" war.
Since when has the US EVER, EVER attacked anyone who could fight back? (except Vietnam, and they soon realized their mistake). A war with Iran? Whew. You don't want that. Allies (UAE, Qatar, S.A., Bahrain...) all in the line of fire and (deservedly) would be the first to go.
You saw how fierce Iran was with Iraq decades ago... just sayin'
There is another game. There's too many to keep track of. The U.S and Iran are both hedging their bets. U.S trying to keep Saudi on a short leash while Iran trying to counterbalance it's dependence on Russia.
On the surface, this could just be the plot before Iran is invaded by U.S and Israel. They'll play the whole 'We tried as hard as we could but they won't learn so we have to go in there'. That will cause ww3 cause Russia will not be happy about it.
But everyone is hedging their bets. U.S could be looking at the outside chance for Iran to replace Saudi oil wells and continue the $ regime. If Iran does not play along, well then it's WAR. At the same time Iran might be looking at the outside chance to play along in the U.S $ game and try and take U.S out of the pockets of Israel. That would never happen.
What could happen though is that while these guys flirt with eachother, Israel will flip, and ally with Russia. When this happens, the U.S is going to be left holding it's dick trying hard to protect the $ and the whole world will see it as U.S = EVIL NWO regime and Russia = Saviour of the world (along with Israel).
Remember that the game is the same. Lead countries to war. Whoever looks like they're winning, gets the backing of the bankers and therefore wins. Now, the bankers created Israel, so whichever side Israel is on will win.
Sorry mate, but I can't by any of those presumptions.
Iran would never replace S.A. in the $ regime. These are a people who recognized the US for what it is - back in the 1950's and have not waivered or deviated much save naive youth perhaps on social media. That term "The Great Satan" was not just a throwaway remark. It has a deep religious connotation. Not "Satan", rather "The Great Satan".
Secondly sitting on that great real estate Iran is hardly feeling dependence on Russia. They both are primary energy exporters and finished goods importers.
Third, no one's going to invade Iran. Having to deal with them alone is one thing, but now Russia (post Ukraine wake-up call) has finally seen the light, and would never let Iran fall. Israel would also have to fight on 2 or 3 fronts as well. Hezbollah aren't ones to sit back with some popcorn taking things in. It would be the beginning of the end for Israel.
Fourth, mankind can NEVER replace Saudi's well. Your well is a cup or perhaps a bowl. Saudi's well, well, is a bathtub.
Lastly, no. In the end, Israel loses. Promise.
I agree with you Chuckster, the timing and the events seem way too staged. Right before the SOTU and the lifting of sanctions? We have so much fire power in that region and those boats so convieniently getting close to the Iranians navel base like that in broad daylight? They almost gave it up. Who knows, maybe they did. Way too theatrical.
How does... getting your ships captured before a SOTU speech, help one? Isn't that, like a statement or demonstration of incompetence? It didn't seemed staged to me at all. No one wants to start a war
Get captured if your lost and in foreign waters, chill out a couple of days, go home. Easy.
If you're suspicious of the incompetence, you obviously have never been in the US Navy... sniff...
The best thing I've seen him do, was to release 100,000 1911s to be sold to the public...
...not sure what else was in the bill, probably funding to hack up babies and sell the parts...
When can we start picking those up btw? - CMP's last email on the point was basically: "STFU and stop calling/emialing us."
Having not yet jumped through the hoops, I figure that I'll see them hit the market at one helluva mark up.
Its important to consider where the "iran is seeking nuclear weapons" message comes from. The israelis have been saying this since at least 1996. Hannity and his ilk say it all the time, but literally every single intelligence assessment has said they are not. Back in 96, israel insisted they were only 2 or 3 years away from having a workable, deliverable nuclear weapon. Now, 20 years later, we are told, yet again, that this deal "paves the way for Iran to develope nukes" and that they are now "only a couple years away from having a weapon". I just don't buy it anymore.
The people who keep pushing this "iran nukes" thing are the same people who have been wrong about it for 20 years, the same people who lied us into iraq, the same people who cheered on the NATO destruction of Libya, and the same one who have been pushing to overthrow assad in favor of genuine terrorist types who would no doubt take over that country. In other words, they are literally wrong about pretty much everything, so why should we risk another war on their latest prediction?
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Bubo Netanyahu demands it.
Actually MOSSAD and CIA both agreed that Iran did not have a N. weapons program. So it never had any legs anyway. The sanctions were hardly due to that.
The sanctions were like the sanctions on Cuba. For control. Power. Punishment as they refused to kow-tow under the US influence. AND, unlike Libya, waaayyy to big and strong to try to take out.
Greenskeeper and Vollder...why is war the only the alternative to the path that Obama took? Can't you see any other path to keeping Iran from obtaining nukes? There were plenty of other options, and if you dont think we are already at war with Iran's proxy organizations (Hezbollah and Hamas) then you are ignorant. Nothig has changed and nothig would have changed had we taken a firmer stand. Now we have left the task of ensuring Iran has no nukes to Israel and perhaps Saudi and some other Sunni countries ih the region. If a war breaks out between them it will be FAR worse than had we worked together to ensure a neutered Iran.
What is very clear here is how Obama went his own way becasue he knew better than anyone else. Just like the way he works at home where he cannot build any consensus, he has done the same on this issue, once again alienating many of our allies in the region to pursue what he believes is a superior path.
I hope time proves him right for all of our sake, becasue if he is wrong the damage to our standing and our security will be huge.
I used to think Trump was just boistrous when he claimed we had idiots in the administration negotiating deals...now I understand him and totally agree.
You're right about the downside here, namely less immediate influence of Iran's nuclear ambitions. I firmly believe that the only reason why the US stayed out of Iran and limited its agressions towards Iran by only going against Hezbollah and Hamas is because Iran would fight back and things would get not just messy but there would be a terrible on US troops and whoever in in charge in the US at that moment would lose the public's support very quickly.
On more big ticket item in this context: iIran's relationship with Russia. This move somewhat decreases Iran's dependence on Russia -> Russia not happy. But given how Russia made out very well with the Syria situation over the past 6 months, seems like they can take that hit.
So I think the trade-off is between giving Iran this treaty vs. establishing a more powerful player next to Saudi Arabia. I think the latter justifies the risk of the former. Yes I could be wrong but how much worse can Saudi Arabia fuck us than they've been? And yes, now it's down to Israel (and Russia?) to keep an eye on Iran's nuclear ambitions - but again, look at what Iran has done vs. Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is destroying the entire world (!)
ZH likes the US as being a 24/7 aggressor against the world rather than using diplomacy and upsetting their narrative. I love it, makes my gas CHEAPER.
US "diplomacy" defined by aggression.
Ordman can immediately see that yr potus has serious "issues". He is constantly speeking with himself in public.
So probably you deserve eachother.
I'd rather deal with the Persians than I would with the Arabs. It's a no brainer. Maybe Barry is trying to distance our relationship with the Saud's. I hope so.
Hope so too. But I agree with some of the other posters. What's the game plan, the timing of 24-hour hostage situation, etc? There's a bigger game plan here, and I don't see it.
How wil the Saudi's respond?
How wil the Saudi's respond?
They will punish Washington as they hold the keys to the USD. Time to bail out of greenbacks before the Arabs do.
You are missing the whole point. The cabal already got the debt increased $10 trillion under Obama off of which they will profit for decades. They didn't need a war with Obama in power. Second, the cabal's next goal is to start a war between Shiite Iran and Wahabbi Saudi Arabia. America would have to come to the aid of S.A. if it had not pivoted like Nixon and China to make peace with Iran. Most people only understand the current chess move, not the multiple chess moves that have been put into place.
nah..rehire the neocons...we can invade then LOSE a war with Iran.
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Yes indeed, appears to be symptom of your schizophreny. So, the pills you today, why not?
To mention UFOs, Nessie and Bigfoot do not neglect! Such talk pleases Nibiru overlords...
I have to know, are the lizard people involved in this too? Those bastards.
Tyler, banhammer this spambot already.
Literally every single thing 0bama has touched has turned to shit. And this one has nuclear weapons. So, yeah, this won't turn out well.
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This is reference to US or this is reference to Israel? Somehow either choice is correct.
How late is he going to be? My bet is 15 minutes.
Holy Shit! Only 4 minutes. That's a new thing for him.
He was delayed by an overzealous TSA agent before boarding Air Force One. ;-)
Looney
Hi Looney...like your posts. Do you mean he had sex before(during) he piloted the plane?
To the one who says Obama was raised Shiite. If so....why hasn't he done something about Saudi Arabia? Why did he kiss the king's ring? Something about all of this doesn't ring right.
No nothing is right about this and it's looking more and more like a fire sale.
I put up my Vlad Putin calendar and it was a wonderful conversation starter, worth every penny. People are finally starting to see who Obozo really is, sadly some will never have a clue.
remember that the formal name of the saudi royal family is "keepers of the faith".
mecca.
medina.
in that light, all the ragheads would kiss their rings, for taqiyya, if nothing else.
people who insist obama is a muslim are deluded and falling for silly republican nonsense. Obama is a "progressive" and a socialist. Their ONLY god is the state. There can be no other higher alligiance than government. THe whole muslim thing is a distraction. If thats your primary reason for not liking obama, you are missing the bigger picture.
Also, for someone who is allegedly a muslim, he sure has racked up an impressive body count of dead muslims during his tenure. He has a funny way of showing his alligiance to his fellow muslims.