The system exist if you vote or not, not voting is like sticking your head in hole like an ostrich and declaring the wolf about to eat you doesn't exist.
No sir, the only way to take this beast down is from the inside out.
We are either observers or participants, and since the participants have hit critical mass its too late in the game to remain observer.
For the record, the picture was orginally with Warren Buffett, another lying kleptocrat. Why did Buffett buy the Washington Post, it certainly wasn't for the money he made from this paper? Might it have been the same reason Russian hackers broke into the New York Time? Of course it was.
If any of these characters were for anyone but themselves and the system they would be killed. As far as Ron Paul goes... I went to hear him speak at a small venue in Spokane. And don't get me wrong... Paul gives every indication that he is a statesman and a gentleman. But...
I left my gun in the car assuming there would be a screening process. There was none. I could have brought it in with me, and I was sitting only a few feet from Paul while he was speaking. If Paul was for real the system could have eliminated him anytime they wanted. Obviously he had no concerns.
I continued to support Paul financially hoping beyond hope. Hope is a powerful motivator. Now I guess it is time to hope again?
TPTB have "killed" Ron via "legal" means, no need to resort to the gun.
[Ron] Paul/Gabbard 2016
I quit supporting Paul, financially, as I wanted no connection to the GOP (as I want no connection to the DEMs). If Ron were to run as an independent (hm... maybe Paul/Ventura?) then I'd reconsider.
Everyone can be eliminated, a sniper rifle and scope are easy to setup.
But the reason I think it does not happen (often) is that I do not think there is a department of government out there ready to bump someone off at the drop of a hat. It is all very easy to say the government is all powerful and can do these sort of things, but what happens when a Edward Snowden appears in the government ranks? Its easy to do desperate things when you have nothing to lose, but these people in government have cushy lives, they will be literally hanged if they were found to be at the root of a conspiracy to murder (and despite all of Snowdens revelations take note - there are no secret murder plots etc).
So unless there is someone in government reckless and passionate enough to risk being hanged nothing will happen, even the worst case of what Ron Paul wants to do will not ruin anyone in government, so why risk being executed over it?
Well, let's ask "el BJ." He was facing removal from the ticket in 1964 and even actual prison time. Indeed, Senate hearings were underway on 11/22/63 about his criminality. So if you were him, how would your risk calculus shake out? For him it wasn't necessarily reckless nor passionate (though he hated the Kennedys w/a passion), but simple self-preservation.
If you consider the number of Presidents over the years who were problems eliminated by an assassin... Lincoln (and I know some folks think Lincoln was in the pocket of the big banks... but his plan was to issue a government script to pay for the war... see Stanton and assassination for an interesting theory... Stanton was Secretary of War, a rival for the Presidency in 1860, and was effectively neutered by Lincoln when he went to work for him), Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy and his brother, and some folks would include Reagan in this list (pros and cons on this one, although he was never the same after the attempt on his life, and it was soon after that his mind began to erode) and the message has been clear... Buck TPTB and you end up pushing up daisies.
IMO, there was no need to kill Ron Paul. The morlocks who controlled the Republican Party machinery, and control the name placement on the ballots,
were certain that he would not get on the ballot. After attending the R's state convention, and seeing the morlock machinery in operation, I knew RP was doomed.
I'm curious how Trump will be able to outfox this machinery, or gain control of it.
In any case, it won't matter.
The real changes have to take place at an individual level.
Sitting back with beer and popcorn, thinking the 'right choice' of a politician will fix things will only make things worse.
I will more or less agree with you depending on what you mean by changes. IMO we are beyond redemption and heading rapidly to a singularity. There is a great deal of evidence for this... just as an example... as you approach a singularity your options diminish, as ours certainly are.
Thing about a singularity is there is no real good way to prepare for it... and I have the hobby farm... things I can do that have material value... etc, and so on...
I think the only real change that makes a difference at this point is spiritual in nature... and I know that offends those of you wanting to find an answer in the world... and I was one of you once upon a time, years ago...
Or perhaps we are not approaching a singularity and this is just another pimple on the tailbone of history...
If a kid went out and and kept fucking around with dangerous folks, I would hope the parents would take that kid out to the woodshed and beat some sense into them, then shut off any allowance.
There's a ton of anguish for voters, especially the red teamers. They're caught in the matrix and they *know it* with all these shitty politicans.
The blue teamers love the matrix and just don't care. For them it's like a game that boils down to voting for whoever they think will beat the red team no matter what.
I doubt very much if votes are counted right anyway. Everything else is fraudulenty rigged, so why would elections be any different? Voters might feel good about themselves for their civic duty but in reality all I think they get is a shot at getting called for jury duty (moar fraud)
Fallback after Jeb! and Rubio. If you see it as a case of covering your bets, Cruz was a good offset to the other two -- until Trump came along and blew through the field.
You have excellent taste in music. ….. I keep that very video on my desktop for use during those rare moments when I need a little attitude reinforcement.
"When the Grey Hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart. Before he dies, Magua will put his children under the knife, so the Grey Hair will know his seed is wiped out forever."
George Washington warned us about politicians like Cruz long ago in his Farewell Address. The kind of politician overly influenced by foreign countries, and their intrigues leading to treason.
Washington also warned us that if such a thing happened, that the real patriots would be spurned (i.e. Ron Paul), while traitors would be honored.
Kagemusho...G Washington was a 1%er, owned slaves and was against the common man having the vote unless he had skin in the game by owning property so the poor need not apply either.
I don't argue that point. He was a product of his time. But he was also a product of a 'classical' education, one that included the writings of such as Plato, Aristotle, Locke, etc.,and thus had a grasp of history that seems to have eluded not only our leaders but most people as well. and his warnings, based upon that grasp of history, have proven prescient, particularly today.
If we deign to judge Washington's time, then ask yourself this: As to our own times, with imprisonment for ingesting proscribed substances, de facto torturing of prisoners having become a fixture of national policy, continued treatment of minorities as second-class citizens (warrantless stop & frisk),, extrajudicial killings by police, widespread abuses of once 'unalienable' rights by a government that spies on its own people and had planned to kill them (Operation NORTHWOODS), etc. how do you think the people of Washington's time would judge us for allowing such a state of affairs to come about?
Probably as harshly as you wish to judge him. History is a sword with no handle; try to wield it against someone else's time and its blade cuts your own hands for your own time's flaws.
And he lead armies from the front - put his money where his mouth was so to speak. GW was honest and 100X better than the trash we've had in DC for the past 100 years.
George Washington has a mythology created around him as a paragon of truth and virtue, but this is of course created by the politicians so that we view them also as virtuous. When you look at his actual life and actions, we see that he was actually a duplicitous, manipulaitve, self-serving, kiniving sneak. In other words, a typical politician. He was also a lousy general to boot.
Better than what we have today? Maybe, but that ain't exactly high praise.
Kagemusho...G Washington was a 1%er, owned slaves and was against the common man having the vote unless he had skin in the game by owning property so the poor need not apply either.
".G Washington was a 1%er, owned slaves and was against the common man "
All true, and truly irrelvant. Is what he said true or not? You seem to have a problem separating the man from the man's argument; or to put it differently, your arugment is a variant of an ad hominem logical fallacy.
I wish the qualifications for voting would be to own property and or assets that would force people to vote carefully as to no lose what they work to earn, not what they can gain for themselves thru the labor of others.
So, when you turned 18 and were of voting age you owned property?
The converse of this logic would be that only those with wealth are smart and to be trusted. Well, we got that now, don't we? Seems that the likes of GS has more voting power than the rest of us...
But yeah, those niggers and such shouldn't be allowed to vote! </sarc>
Why should anyone have the vote at 18? (unless they are actually serving in their country's military).
We all know most young people are naive and foolish. Some people don't grow out of that but, on balance, most do get a bit wiser (and the male brain doesn't actually fully mature until late 20s).
And, in any case, many people are working and paying taxes at that age, which more than property per se ought to be the basis for a right to vote.
In Heinlein's Starship Troopers Terran Federation (forget the horrible fascism-glorifying movies, read the damn' book!) if you wanted to vote you had to be willing to serve your society for 2 years. Whatever you could do (a 'left-handed glass blower', for example), you did that, and at the end of your service, you could vote.
Contrary to the book's critics, Heinlein made it clear only 5% went into the military (which was civilian controlled) and most of them mainly people with no skills.You could quit at any time, even when in the military, but wouldn't be able to vote if you did. Few quit.
Most people didn't take that route, and were classified as 'legal residents' of their various countries (on Earth) and colony worlds. A legal resident had the same rights, and was treated no differently than any other person except for not being able to vote. Those few who did serve took their voting rights seriously, as it did have impact.
In short, people felt they had a 'stake' in society, and its preservation. No Hobson's Choice about being told to choose between puppet candidates fronted by hidden special interests (i.e. Bilberberg, CFR, etc.) A far cry from our reality.
what trump has taught america. your system selects the superior system gamer. problem is we need someone outside the system to change or fix it, not game it. we have arrived at this point. they are all gamers, no leaders. liars and hypocrits make exceptional gamers. "you can't win with a losing hand." b.d.
my guess is rand paul and bernie sanders should run on a third party ticket and beat clinton/trump.
You pose the primordial fundamental question inadvertently. Is Trump the quintessential Manchurian candidate like Obama or is he an independent who has lived, worked and succeeded within the system for 40 years and now is ready to fix its deficiences? This was the question that all should ask themselves and I have asked myself for several months. I came to the conclusion that he is the latter definitively only after watching Roger Stone's multiple interviews about Trump. Trump is the real deal, out to save America from the kleptocractic plutocracy and be a hero to the American people. I would suggest you google or youtube search for "Roger Stone interview on Donald Trump." Rand Paul is a true patriot as well. Sanders is merely a delusional true believer.
i have come to realize the fundamental problem, so i believe.
it is the money system monopoly of the federal reserve and
the owner/bankers. which prospective potus has ever dared
consider this as a problem? that is the angle ....i will
check those interviews, thanks.
The "problem" is the basic premise of perpetual growth (on a finite planet). As much as I dislike the Fed, and banking in general, it is but an agent of the larger means of promoting this very fundamentally flawed premise: I don't know that I'd want the same government that's racking up debt ALSO be in control of directly printing our money- it might be MORE prone to abuse? (I don't know, but I do know most don't look to discuss the "what comes after [disbanding the Fed]")
Currency manipulation long preceded the arrival of the Fed. The Phoneticians and their introduction of the notion of "interest" gave scammerrs a huge new weapon. And with "interest" came heightened growth: they pretty much go hand-in-hand.
The other part of the problem, as to why any theory of currency controls will always fails, is that you can't pull the trough away from the feeding pigs. That's pretty much what we're seeing. When currency contraction is necessitated people, being human, just don't want to see any reduction; so, rather than adjust currencies back down to earth we look to raise up "production" into the heavens- we try to force growth. Make no mistake about it, we have no economic system in mind that speaks to the ability of dealing with a protracted (semi-permanent) contraction as that would imply negative growth, negative "interest!" Us humans have programmed ourselves to live in the future: leaders etc ply us by way of always commanding/championing/promising "a better future."
I'm not sure that one can even blame the Phoneticians: "Go forth and multiply" seems to be a problematic instruction set. But, for sure, the Feds are NOT THE CAUSE. (they're no more than a "refinement")
@"..I don't know that I'd want the same government that's racking up debt ALSO be in control of directly printing our money- it might be MORE prone to abuse?"...
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the current government, people in it, have been selected based on the
federal reserves money system. bought with that money to promote that money
and system of power. if the government was populated by the people who lost
all the elections of the last 100 years, where would be today regarding
the money system, growth, war, et.. we will never know. to respond to your question, it would be horrible to let this breed of criminals preside over
a treasury based fiat money system. they are proven scam artists, liars and hypocrites for failing to even mention the essential motivating forces,
obvious to a child, dictating their every personal and political motivation.
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vote em' all out. woops.
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4aKOhbbK9E
Proven voting fraud! Gov't programmer testifies voting machines are rigging elections
Really, come on now. Compare Trump to Ron Paul (last POTUS runner I supported) and say that. Trump couldn't carry Paul's jock strap. (BTW - Ron Paul is a true patriot, Rand only tries to come off as one- he's not the same.)
Trump is a fucking psychopath. His business dealings are a joke. The shit he dabbled in has little in lasting value, and even less on a moral basis.
Trump is out for Trump. PERIOD.
Keep in mind that this is all but a sales job. Once POTUS these fuckers have a very big tendency to be nearly 180 from what they sold themselves as. GW Bush was supposed to be a "uniter," someone not in to nation building, and a supporter of individual rights. Obama was supposed to be about "peace" and, well, a "uniter."
I recall really likely Ross Perrot when he was running. Someone with business sense and not a fan of government. Later I realized that the guy essentially became a prominent business player through government contracts!
Sanders is just the other side of the Trump coin.
What ails the US is less about the POTUS and more about demographics. Party Pussies, however, will never cop to this (either it's too heady, or they're just looking to keep the human deception going).
No coincidence that both DeGaulle came for his gold and the Immigration act passed the Congress in 1965. Real aggregate demand fades, replaced by artificial .guv demand, gold outflows, impacting the dollar. Solution? Why, feed the machine more people to try and puff things back up again. They're desparate to avoid honest disclosure of thse circumstances. Promises were made, and they don't like the idea of hanging from lamposts.
-"Sanders is just the other side of the Trump coin"
So I'll take it you're either feelin the Bern, or that you meant he is too progressively common sense for my ideals?
Bernie would be a win for democracy, a unified message from the people indicating that we dont accept the red/blue bullshit anymore.
Before you jump me here guys, lets just aknowledge (or at least entertain the thought ) that Bernie is ultimately the most level headed, consistant, and genuine horse in the race right now - shoutout to Ron Paul of course, as well. We may not agree on gub's involvement in the scope of providing "social utilites" as I call them (Includes roads, educations, public parks, health for it's people), but we all know that America will not become "socialist" in the Euro sense even with an 8 year Bernie.Yes, Obummercare was and is a disaster that needs to be fixed. However, healthcare seems to be an all or nothing type of deal to me. Follow me here, peoples:
Roughly equal portions of the nation budget for 2015 went to Government, Education, Health/Medicare, and Veterans benefits, respectively (about 5% of total discresionary spending FY2015). Regardless of how you feel about expanding/contracting medicaid/healthcare spending, these are all things we ALL use and should pay for equally.
I dont get to say I drove on the highway less than Tyler this year so he should pay more taxes on that. Same thing for health, education, and veterans benefits. These are Americans' resposibilities to provide for ALL their citizens. If you feel like somedays you hate all those "poor people soaking up all the benefits and ruining America," please realize that UNITED WE WILL STAND AND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. Everyday I see our country getting more and more divided.
A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote for a common sense approach to politics, and at least one foot down the path to peace.
Unless you're a sick fuck (which I know many are out there) choose love over hate with your vote this year. By that I mean vote for the person you truly believe is the right person to lead America into the great unknown with class, respect, and compassion for all people, not just yourself :).
"The most foolish thing a man can do is elect a state and wish to remain in it"
The system exist if you vote or not, not voting is like sticking your head in hole like an ostrich and declaring the wolf about to eat you doesn't exist.
No sir, the only way to take this beast down is from the inside out.
We are either observers or participants, and since the participants have hit critical mass its too late in the game to remain observer.
Princeton is said to be a real asshole factory.
I'd love to know which EATING CLUB he was in.
For Cruz to try and go corn pone is rich.....
For the record, the picture was orginally with Warren Buffett, another lying kleptocrat. Why did Buffett buy the Washington Post, it certainly wasn't for the money he made from this paper? Might it have been the same reason Russian hackers broke into the New York Time? Of course it was.
Cruz is just a hedge for Goldman Sacks, one of many
And Trump is our savior no doubt.
If any of these characters were for anyone but themselves and the system they would be killed. As far as Ron Paul goes... I went to hear him speak at a small venue in Spokane. And don't get me wrong... Paul gives every indication that he is a statesman and a gentleman. But...
I left my gun in the car assuming there would be a screening process. There was none. I could have brought it in with me, and I was sitting only a few feet from Paul while he was speaking. If Paul was for real the system could have eliminated him anytime they wanted. Obviously he had no concerns.
I continued to support Paul financially hoping beyond hope. Hope is a powerful motivator. Now I guess it is time to hope again?
TPTB have "killed" Ron via "legal" means, no need to resort to the gun.
[Ron] Paul/Gabbard 2016
I quit supporting Paul, financially, as I wanted no connection to the GOP (as I want no connection to the DEMs). If Ron were to run as an independent (hm... maybe Paul/Ventura?) then I'd reconsider.
Everyone can be eliminated, a sniper rifle and scope are easy to setup.
But the reason I think it does not happen (often) is that I do not think there is a department of government out there ready to bump someone off at the drop of a hat. It is all very easy to say the government is all powerful and can do these sort of things, but what happens when a Edward Snowden appears in the government ranks? Its easy to do desperate things when you have nothing to lose, but these people in government have cushy lives, they will be literally hanged if they were found to be at the root of a conspiracy to murder (and despite all of Snowdens revelations take note - there are no secret murder plots etc).
So unless there is someone in government reckless and passionate enough to risk being hanged nothing will happen, even the worst case of what Ron Paul wants to do will not ruin anyone in government, so why risk being executed over it?
"so why risk being executed over it?"
Well, let's ask "el BJ." He was facing removal from the ticket in 1964 and even actual prison time. Indeed, Senate hearings were underway on 11/22/63 about his criminality. So if you were him, how would your risk calculus shake out? For him it wasn't necessarily reckless nor passionate (though he hated the Kennedys w/a passion), but simple self-preservation.
If you consider the number of Presidents over the years who were problems eliminated by an assassin... Lincoln (and I know some folks think Lincoln was in the pocket of the big banks... but his plan was to issue a government script to pay for the war... see Stanton and assassination for an interesting theory... Stanton was Secretary of War, a rival for the Presidency in 1860, and was effectively neutered by Lincoln when he went to work for him), Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy and his brother, and some folks would include Reagan in this list (pros and cons on this one, although he was never the same after the attempt on his life, and it was soon after that his mind began to erode) and the message has been clear... Buck TPTB and you end up pushing up daisies.
IMO, there was no need to kill Ron Paul. The morlocks who controlled the Republican Party machinery, and control the name placement on the ballots,
were certain that he would not get on the ballot. After attending the R's state convention, and seeing the morlock machinery in operation, I knew RP was doomed.
I'm curious how Trump will be able to outfox this machinery, or gain control of it.
In any case, it won't matter.
The real changes have to take place at an individual level.
Sitting back with beer and popcorn, thinking the 'right choice' of a politician will fix things will only make things worse.
I will more or less agree with you depending on what you mean by changes. IMO we are beyond redemption and heading rapidly to a singularity. There is a great deal of evidence for this... just as an example... as you approach a singularity your options diminish, as ours certainly are.
Thing about a singularity is there is no real good way to prepare for it... and I have the hobby farm... things I can do that have material value... etc, and so on...
I think the only real change that makes a difference at this point is spiritual in nature... and I know that offends those of you wanting to find an answer in the world... and I was one of you once upon a time, years ago...
Or perhaps we are not approaching a singularity and this is just another pimple on the tailbone of history...
I'm surprised Bibi hasn't thrown his hat in the ring...Oh wait...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-israel-idUSKCN0UV0J4
If a kid went out and and kept fucking around with dangerous folks, I would hope the parents would take that kid out to the woodshed and beat some sense into them, then shut off any allowance.
There's a ton of anguish for voters, especially the red teamers. They're caught in the matrix and they *know it* with all these shitty politicans.
The blue teamers love the matrix and just don't care. For them it's like a game that boils down to voting for whoever they think will beat the red team no matter what.
I doubt very much if votes are counted right anyway. Everything else is fraudulenty rigged, so why would elections be any different? Voters might feel good about themselves for their civic duty but in reality all I think they get is a shot at getting called for jury duty (moar fraud)
What It Is - Heather Stewart (Lyric Video)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwXzP2qRf5s
While I generally agree with everything else you posted, that song sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2mHoVJV6RY
Ted and Heidi, prized running dogs nurtured by the Goldman Tribe.
Fallback after Jeb! and Rubio. If you see it as a case of covering your bets, Cruz was a good offset to the other two -- until Trump came along and blew through the field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZgBhyU4IvQ
Bob Dylan - Not Dark Yet
https://youtu.be/CVW9sOsXAjU?list=RD9XWmwvT8bCw
Crosby Stills & Nash - Long Time Gone
You have excellent taste in music. ….. I keep that very video on my desktop for use during those rare moments when I need a little attitude reinforcement.
It still gives me chills after all these years.
~ DC
"When the Grey Hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart. Before he dies, Magua will put his children under the knife, so the Grey Hair will know his seed is wiped out forever."
George Washington warned us about politicians like Cruz long ago in his Farewell Address. The kind of politician overly influenced by foreign countries, and their intrigues leading to treason.
Washington also warned us that if such a thing happened, that the real patriots would be spurned (i.e. Ron Paul), while traitors would be honored.
And so it goes...
Kagemusho...G Washington was a 1%er, owned slaves and was against the common man having the vote unless he had skin in the game by owning property so the poor need not apply either.
I don't argue that point. He was a product of his time. But he was also a product of a 'classical' education, one that included the writings of such as Plato, Aristotle, Locke, etc.,and thus had a grasp of history that seems to have eluded not only our leaders but most people as well. and his warnings, based upon that grasp of history, have proven prescient, particularly today.
If we deign to judge Washington's time, then ask yourself this: As to our own times, with imprisonment for ingesting proscribed substances, de facto torturing of prisoners having become a fixture of national policy, continued treatment of minorities as second-class citizens (warrantless stop & frisk),, extrajudicial killings by police, widespread abuses of once 'unalienable' rights by a government that spies on its own people and had planned to kill them (Operation NORTHWOODS), etc. how do you think the people of Washington's time would judge us for allowing such a state of affairs to come about?
Probably as harshly as you wish to judge him. History is a sword with no handle; try to wield it against someone else's time and its blade cuts your own hands for your own time's flaws.
And he lead armies from the front - put his money where his mouth was so to speak. GW was honest and 100X better than the trash we've had in DC for the past 100 years.
If you get some time watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwZDRB3tZo
George Washington has a mythology created around him as a paragon of truth and virtue, but this is of course created by the politicians so that we view them also as virtuous. When you look at his actual life and actions, we see that he was actually a duplicitous, manipulaitve, self-serving, kiniving sneak. In other words, a typical politician. He was also a lousy general to boot.
Better than what we have today? Maybe, but that ain't exactly high praise.
Kagemusho...G Washington was a 1%er, owned slaves and was against the common man having the vote unless he had skin in the game by owning property so the poor need not apply either.
".G Washington was a 1%er, owned slaves and was against the common man "
All true, and truly irrelvant. Is what he said true or not? You seem to have a problem separating the man from the man's argument; or to put it differently, your arugment is a variant of an ad hominem logical fallacy.
He was right about the voting. He was born into the "slavery system", slavery had been a human constant for thousands of years.
as it should still be.
I wish the qualifications for voting would be to own property and or assets that would force people to vote carefully as to no lose what they work to earn, not what they can gain for themselves thru the labor of others.
+++
This was to ensure the electorate understood risk. There is no risk for FSA.
So, when you turned 18 and were of voting age you owned property?
The converse of this logic would be that only those with wealth are smart and to be trusted. Well, we got that now, don't we? Seems that the likes of GS has more voting power than the rest of us...
But yeah, those niggers and such shouldn't be allowed to vote! </sarc>
Why should anyone have the vote at 18? (unless they are actually serving in their country's military).
We all know most young people are naive and foolish. Some people don't grow out of that but, on balance, most do get a bit wiser (and the male brain doesn't actually fully mature until late 20s).
And, in any case, many people are working and paying taxes at that age, which more than property per se ought to be the basis for a right to vote.
In Heinlein's Starship Troopers Terran Federation (forget the horrible fascism-glorifying movies, read the damn' book!) if you wanted to vote you had to be willing to serve your society for 2 years. Whatever you could do (a 'left-handed glass blower', for example), you did that, and at the end of your service, you could vote.
Contrary to the book's critics, Heinlein made it clear only 5% went into the military (which was civilian controlled) and most of them mainly people with no skills.You could quit at any time, even when in the military, but wouldn't be able to vote if you did. Few quit.
Most people didn't take that route, and were classified as 'legal residents' of their various countries (on Earth) and colony worlds. A legal resident had the same rights, and was treated no differently than any other person except for not being able to vote. Those few who did serve took their voting rights seriously, as it did have impact.
In short, people felt they had a 'stake' in society, and its preservation. No Hobson's Choice about being told to choose between puppet candidates fronted by hidden special interests (i.e. Bilberberg, CFR, etc.) A far cry from our reality.
All negros should be owned by Anglo, Asian, Hispanic families.
Then they teach them to work, have values, etc.
After they turn 21 they are free.
GW also never heard of the Electoral College.
WB7: The Bibi button is a nice touch! Another bought and paid for POS owned, paid for and controlled by the banker scum. Ain't Amerka great!
what trump has taught america. your system selects the superior system gamer. problem is we need someone outside the system to change or fix it, not game it. we have arrived at this point. they are all gamers, no leaders. liars and hypocrits make exceptional gamers. "you can't win with a losing hand." b.d.
my guess is rand paul and bernie sanders should run on a third party ticket and beat clinton/trump.
You pose the primordial fundamental question inadvertently. Is Trump the quintessential Manchurian candidate like Obama or is he an independent who has lived, worked and succeeded within the system for 40 years and now is ready to fix its deficiences? This was the question that all should ask themselves and I have asked myself for several months. I came to the conclusion that he is the latter definitively only after watching Roger Stone's multiple interviews about Trump. Trump is the real deal, out to save America from the kleptocractic plutocracy and be a hero to the American people. I would suggest you google or youtube search for "Roger Stone interview on Donald Trump." Rand Paul is a true patriot as well. Sanders is merely a delusional true believer.
Are you fucking kdding? Trump's primary skill is being an expert on going bankrupt.
Well, then he'll fit right in at Fed.gov.
i have come to realize the fundamental problem, so i believe.
it is the money system monopoly of the federal reserve and
the owner/bankers. which prospective potus has ever dared
consider this as a problem? that is the angle ....i will
check those interviews, thanks.
The "problem" is the basic premise of perpetual growth (on a finite planet). As much as I dislike the Fed, and banking in general, it is but an agent of the larger means of promoting this very fundamentally flawed premise: I don't know that I'd want the same government that's racking up debt ALSO be in control of directly printing our money- it might be MORE prone to abuse? (I don't know, but I do know most don't look to discuss the "what comes after [disbanding the Fed]")
Currency manipulation long preceded the arrival of the Fed. The Phoneticians and their introduction of the notion of "interest" gave scammerrs a huge new weapon. And with "interest" came heightened growth: they pretty much go hand-in-hand.
The other part of the problem, as to why any theory of currency controls will always fails, is that you can't pull the trough away from the feeding pigs. That's pretty much what we're seeing. When currency contraction is necessitated people, being human, just don't want to see any reduction; so, rather than adjust currencies back down to earth we look to raise up "production" into the heavens- we try to force growth. Make no mistake about it, we have no economic system in mind that speaks to the ability of dealing with a protracted (semi-permanent) contraction as that would imply negative growth, negative "interest!" Us humans have programmed ourselves to live in the future: leaders etc ply us by way of always commanding/championing/promising "a better future."
I'm not sure that one can even blame the Phoneticians: "Go forth and multiply" seems to be a problematic instruction set. But, for sure, the Feds are NOT THE CAUSE. (they're no more than a "refinement")
The chief cause of problems is solutions. - Eric Sevareid
Yeah, those PhoneTechnicians are a dim lot, but let's not heap all the the blame on them..
OH! You meant Pheoneceans?
My bad.
The problem is us; Only sociopaths want to be leaders and we seem to want to be led.
Self-eating watermelon. Rinse. Repeat.
@"..I don't know that I'd want the same government that's racking up debt ALSO be in control of directly printing our money- it might be MORE prone to abuse?"...
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the current government, people in it, have been selected based on the
federal reserves money system. bought with that money to promote that money
and system of power. if the government was populated by the people who lost
all the elections of the last 100 years, where would be today regarding
the money system, growth, war, et.. we will never know. to respond to your question, it would be horrible to let this breed of criminals preside over
a treasury based fiat money system. they are proven scam artists, liars and hypocrites for failing to even mention the essential motivating forces,
obvious to a child, dictating their every personal and political motivation.
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vote em' all out. woops.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4aKOhbbK9E
Proven voting fraud! Gov't programmer testifies voting machines are rigging elections
"Trump is the real deal"
Really, come on now. Compare Trump to Ron Paul (last POTUS runner I supported) and say that. Trump couldn't carry Paul's jock strap. (BTW - Ron Paul is a true patriot, Rand only tries to come off as one- he's not the same.)
Trump is a fucking psychopath. His business dealings are a joke. The shit he dabbled in has little in lasting value, and even less on a moral basis.
Trump is out for Trump. PERIOD.
Keep in mind that this is all but a sales job. Once POTUS these fuckers have a very big tendency to be nearly 180 from what they sold themselves as. GW Bush was supposed to be a "uniter," someone not in to nation building, and a supporter of individual rights. Obama was supposed to be about "peace" and, well, a "uniter."
I recall really likely Ross Perrot when he was running. Someone with business sense and not a fan of government. Later I realized that the guy essentially became a prominent business player through government contracts!
Sanders is just the other side of the Trump coin.
What ails the US is less about the POTUS and more about demographics. Party Pussies, however, will never cop to this (either it's too heady, or they're just looking to keep the human deception going).
http://econimica.blogspot.com/2016/01/sources-of-growth-examined-and-fou...
No coincidence that both DeGaulle came for his gold and the Immigration act passed the Congress in 1965. Real aggregate demand fades, replaced by artificial .guv demand, gold outflows, impacting the dollar. Solution? Why, feed the machine more people to try and puff things back up again. They're desparate to avoid honest disclosure of thse circumstances. Promises were made, and they don't like the idea of hanging from lamposts.
-"Sanders is just the other side of the Trump coin"
So I'll take it you're either feelin the Bern, or that you meant he is too progressively common sense for my ideals?
Bernie would be a win for democracy, a unified message from the people indicating that we dont accept the red/blue bullshit anymore.
Before you jump me here guys, lets just aknowledge (or at least entertain the thought ) that Bernie is ultimately the most level headed, consistant, and genuine horse in the race right now - shoutout to Ron Paul of course, as well. We may not agree on gub's involvement in the scope of providing "social utilites" as I call them (Includes roads, educations, public parks, health for it's people), but we all know that America will not become "socialist" in the Euro sense even with an 8 year Bernie.Yes, Obummercare was and is a disaster that needs to be fixed. However, healthcare seems to be an all or nothing type of deal to me. Follow me here, peoples:
Roughly equal portions of the nation budget for 2015 went to Government, Education, Health/Medicare, and Veterans benefits, respectively (about 5% of total discresionary spending FY2015). Regardless of how you feel about expanding/contracting medicaid/healthcare spending, these are all things we ALL use and should pay for equally.
I dont get to say I drove on the highway less than Tyler this year so he should pay more taxes on that. Same thing for health, education, and veterans benefits. These are Americans' resposibilities to provide for ALL their citizens. If you feel like somedays you hate all those "poor people soaking up all the benefits and ruining America," please realize that UNITED WE WILL STAND AND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. Everyday I see our country getting more and more divided.
A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote for a common sense approach to politics, and at least one foot down the path to peace.
Unless you're a sick fuck (which I know many are out there) choose love over hate with your vote this year. By that I mean vote for the person you truly believe is the right person to lead America into the great unknown with class, respect, and compassion for all people, not just yourself :).
"The most foolish thing a man can do is elect a state and wish to remain in it"
Economically speaking, everyone does better when everybody does better.
good points as par usual.