The Fed Responds To Zero Hedge: Here Are Some Follow Up Questions

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Over the weekend, we gave the Dallas Fed a chance to respond to a Zero Hedge story corroborated by at least two independent sources, in which we reported that Federal Reserve members had met with bank lenders with distressed loan exposure to the US oil and gas sector and, after parsing through the complete bank books, had advised banks to i) not urge creditor counterparties into default, ii) urge asset sales instead, and iii) ultimately suspend mark to market in various instances.

Moments ago the Dallas Fed, whose president since September 2015 is Robert Steven Kaplan, a former Goldman Sachs career banker who after 22 years at the bank rose to the rank of vice chairman of its investment bank group - an odd background for a regional Fed president - took the time away from its holiday schedule to respond to Zero Hedge.

This is what it said.

We thank the Dallas Fad for their prompt attention to this important matter. After all, as one of our sources commented, "If revolvers are not being marked anymore, then it's basically early days of subprime when mbs payback schedules started to fall behind." Surely there is nothing that can grab the public's attention more than a rerun of the mortgage crisis, especially if confirmed by the highest institution.

As such we understand the Dallas Fed's desire to avoid a public reaction and preserve semantic neutrality by refuting "such guidance."

That said, we fully stand by our story, and now that we have engaged the Dallas Fed we would like to ask several very important follow up questions, to probe deeper into a matter that is of significant public interest as well as to clear up any potential confusion as to just what "guidance" the Fed is referring to.

  • Has the Dallas Fed, or any other members and individuals of the Federal Reserve System, met with U.S. bank and other lender management teams in recent weeks/months and if so what was the purpose of such meetings?
  • Has the Dallas Fed, or any other members and individuals of the Federal Reserve System, requested that banks and other lenders present their internal energy loan books and loan marks for Fed inspection in recent weeks/months?
  • Has the Dallas Fed, or any other members and individuals of the Federal Reserve System, discussed options facing financial lenders, and other creditors, who have distressed credit exposure including but not limited to:
    • avoiding defaults on distressed debtor counterparties?
    • encouraging asset sales for distressed debtor counterparties?
    • advising banks to avoid the proper marking of loan exposure to market?
    • advising banks to mark loan exposure to a model framework, one created either by the creditors themselves or one presented by members of the Federal Reserve network?
    • avoiding the presentation of public filings with loan exposure marked to market values of counterparty debt?
  • Was the Dallas Fed, or any other members and individuals of the Federal Reserve System, consulted before the January 15, 2016 Citigroup Q4 earnings call during which the bank refused to disclose to the public the full extent of its reserves related to its oil and gas loan exposure, as quoted from CFO John Gerspach:

    "while we are taking what we believe to be the appropriate reserves for that, I'm just not prepared to give you a specific number right now as far as the amount of reserves that we have on that particular book of business. That's just not something that we've traditionally done in the past."

  • Furthermore, if the Dallas Fed, or any other members and individuals of the Federal Reserve system, were not consulted when Citigroup made the decision to withhold such relevant information on potential energy loan losses, does the Federal Reserve System believe that Citigroup is in compliance with its public disclosure requirements by withholding such information from its shareholders and the public?
  • If the Dallas Fed does not issue "such" guidance to banks, then what precisely guidance does the Dallas Fed issue to banks?

Since the Fed is an entity tasked with serving the public, and since it took the opportunity to reply in broad terms to our previous article, we are confident that Mr. Kaplan and his subordinates will promptly address these follow up concerns.

Finally, in light of this official refutation by the Dallas Fed, we are confident that disclosing the Fed's internal meeting schedules is something the Fed will not object to, and we hereby request that Mr. Kaplan disclose all of his personal meetings with members of the U.S. and international financial system since coming to office, both through this article, and through a FOIA request we are submitting concurrently.

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Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:07 | 7062245 Haole
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Trust the Fed, trust me...

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:09 | 7062250 Deathrips
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Whoever denied it, supplied it.

 

Fuck the FED!!

 

RIPS

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:10 | 7062255 techpriest
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There's a saying that you "never comment to people below your level." ZH is more significant than the mainstream wants to admit.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:15 | 7062292 Byte Me
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Mark to market... how quaint and retro.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:21 | 7062328 Manthong
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“the Fed is an entity tasked with serving the public”

Is that anything like “wrestling is a sport”?

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:25 | 7062361 The Juggernaut
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Fuck you, Fed Reserve!  You're monetary communists!

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:32 | 7062412 Cognitive Dissonance
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The Dallas Fed's denial IS the confirmation.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:33 | 7062421 Soul Glow
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At least now we know the Fed reads Zero Hedge.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:36 | 7062431 nope-1004
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The Fed will respond to ZH questions as follows:

 

"It was my understanding there would be no math."

 

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:37 | 7062452 Upswaller
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I didn't have sex with such a woman.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:40 | 7062486 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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WAY TO GO TYLERS!!! WAY TO FLIPPIN' GO!!! YOU RULE!!!

 

+infinity

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:57 | 7062629 Stackers
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Me thinks he doth protest too much...

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:07 | 7062708 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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The first rule of FIGHT CLUB is:

"You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB"

 

The 2nd rule of FIGHT CLUB is:

FUCK THE FED!!!

 

 

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:11 | 7062729 SheepRevolution
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So now that we know for sure the Fed is reading ZH, here it goes: FUCK YOU BEN BERNANKE!!! FUCK YOU GREENSPAN!!!FUCK YOU BEN BERNANKE!!! FUCK YOU GREENSPAN!!!FUCK YOU BEN BERNANKE!!! FUCK YOU GREENSPAN!!!FUCK YOU BEN BERNANKE!!! FUCK YOU GREENSPAN!!!

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:12 | 7062742 thesonandheir
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Don't believe anything until it's been officially denied.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:27 | 7062819 ali_baba
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Here's a question: How many of the banks that make up the Fed are jewish owned?

 

Just an innocent question....

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:44 | 7062927 TerminalDebt
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It was my understanding there would be no truth

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:02 | 7063033 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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I hereby nominate SheepRevolution to become the next LongSoupLine...

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:06 | 7063053 TahoeBilly2012
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Zerohedge 6 points (plus extra 2)

Khazarian Mafia 0

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:08 | 7063068 macholatte
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“…Robert Steven Kaplan, a former Goldman Sachs career banker…an odd background for a regional Fed president…”

 

Correction: his background would have been odd for a Fed President if he had never worked at Government Sachs.

 

 

Corruption: it’s what’s for breakfast

-- Barry Soetero

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:35 | 7063216 jcaz
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LOL-  an odd attempt at misdirection.  The Fed is so inundated with GS people at this point that they have make light of it-

"Shh- nobody say anything,  the sheep will never make this connection on their own....."

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:39 | 7063233 jcaz
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Dammit-  Tyler is gonna get droned with Spicoli now, gonna be a messy Tuesday.....

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:48 | 7063270 knukles
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Kudos, Tyler!

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:44 | 7062928 strannick
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Fuckin A ZH.

Fuck you CNN

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:04 | 7063039 WTFRLY
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dey lyen

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:43 | 7063245 tjeffersonsghost
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If we hear of a nailgun accident over the next few days we'll know who leaked the info... just saying..

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:34 | 7063211 weburke
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none

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:27 | 7062821 Herd Redirectio...
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Hey Fischer, fuuuuuuuuuuck yooooooooou.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:36 | 7062876 Poundsand
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"When it becomes serious, you have to lie."

                                         Jean-Claude Junker

Must be getting serious.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:45 | 7062937 JRobby
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The FED responds through Twitter

That has got to calm markets

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:11 | 7063082 WTFRLY
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"Special Operations"

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:48 | 7063273 - - - - - -
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why its always ignored that most fed members are jews  not only the chairmans

no one officially talks about that

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 16:02 | 7063327 Handful of Dust
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"It's complicated."

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:24 | 7062806 Herd Redirectio...
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For financial information to be USEFUL it must also  be:

"Relevant: Relevance requires financial information to be relevant to the decision making needs of the users.

Materiality requires accountants and auditors to focus on financial information which is expected to affect the decisions of the users.

Faithful representation requires the financial information to be true and fair and free from misstatement.

Comparability requires the financial information to be comparable across periods and across companies.

Verifiability requires the information to communicate the underlying economics of the company's business.

Timeliness requires disclosure of financial information not to be excessively delayed.

Understandability requires the financial information to be understandable by users with reasonable knowledge of business and economic activities."

But we are in the 21st century.  Who needs reliable and relevant accounting these days, amirite?

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:25 | 7062812 XuscitizenSweden
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.....was that a +1 parsecs infinity, or, a +12 parsecs infinity.

It's all relative, Relativity Theory in theory, you know.

;) & :) X-

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:40 | 7062487 pods
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This just means Tyler put one in the 10 ring.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:47 | 7062560 Cui Bono
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yet again!

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:07 | 7062707 Payne
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The statement was a denial of Guidance.  That was true of course, they never issued Guidance telling Banks what to do.  

Deniability requires nothing exists in written or electronic form in the form of Guidance.  Conversations where we suggest you take this action vs. this action is a completely different issue.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:28 | 7063173 Tall Tom
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That was true of course, they never issued Guidance telling Banks what to do.

 

You must mean that they are out of control.

 

You must mean that they have no credibility.

 

As the Central Bank the responsibility of the FED is to issue guidance in order that economic stability is maintained. That is supposedly their mission.

 

From Investopedia...

 

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forward-guidance.asp

 

Forward guidance is a key tool of the Federal Reserve in the United States. Other central banks, such as the Bank of England, the European Central Bank and the Bank of Japan, use it as well.

Read more: Forward Guidance Definition | Investopedia http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forward-guidance.asp#ixzz3xd4ekAbF 
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Haven't you ever heard the adage,"Don't fight the Fed."?

 

And yet you are telling me that the denial of Guidance is TRUE because they never issued Guidance telling Banks what to do?

 

For what reason are you attempting to convince me of that...when that is so far from the truth that it is not funny?

 

I do not see any satire in your statement. I fail to grasp any humor.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:49 | 7063280 knukles
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"I didn't have sex with a woman."
           -some president or other
 

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:38 | 7062467 Haus-Targaryen
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This shouldn't be a surprise.  We know for a fact Draghi reads ZH. I would assume all CB heads visit ZH once or so a day.  

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:04 | 7062682 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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Draghi reads? That's news to me... See? Yet ANOTHER reason I come to ZH to learn new things each day!

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:56 | 7063308 Haus-Targaryen
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Yeah he let that go in 2013 in a Q&A.  

M. Draghi is a reader, for a while I wondered if Ghordo was Draghi, but then Ghordo made German/Dutch speaker English mistakes and not Italian ones.  

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 14:07 | 7062704 still kicking
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I missed that tidbit, how did he disclose that?

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:04 | 7063038 aVileRat
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"Plan Z": when TD asked in mid 2013/4 on what the ECB would do should Grexit spread to the rest of the PIGS.

 

At the time everyone assumed the whole sour loan issue was contained and Cypress was the only black swan in a recovering Eurozone. Draghi later admitted should things get bad enough that deflation becomes a market risk he would enter the market with QE, Plan "Z". ECB is still operating under Plan Z to this day and expected to double up on QE measures before 2020.

 

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:07 | 7063059 Took Red Pill
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Along with the NSA

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:32 | 7063196 CPL
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The fun game of watching those guys watch these guys watching some other guys watch some other guys.  Keep them off the streets and in a cube pen somewhere wasting their lives.  Can't have all those inventive minds runing around fixing things.  Stuff might start to actually work then banks wouldn't be needed.

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 15:43 | 7063242 ZeroPoint
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Who do you think DDOS'ed ZeroHedge just this last year?

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 13:45 | 7062549 WillyGroper
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Hells bells, the fact that they responded with any comment is confirmation.

Be careful Tylers.

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