Trump Will Force Apple "To Build Its Damn Computers And Things" In America

Tyler Durden's picture

In case you didn’t get the message, Donald Trump is going to “make America great again.”

Typically, campaign slogans try to capture something or other about the candidate by alluding to experience or values or whatever it is politicians believe will set them apart from the field.

But not Trump.

No, the brazen billionaire decided instead to go with something more grandiose by eschewing the slogan for a proclamation - an explicit promise to restore some bygone glory the billionaire imagines has been lost over the past two centuries.

After all, what kind of treasonous Benedict Arnold wouldn’t want to “make the country great again?”

Of course saying you’re going to right all of the wrongs on the way restoring American hegemony and striking fear in the hearts of those countries bold enough to challenge the US economically or militarily is one thing, while explaining how you’re going to do it is entirely another.

So far, it’s as yet unclear how Trump plans on making things “great again” and indeed it’s not even clear what the GOP frontrunner means by “great” other than “better than things are now.” Fortunately, voters don’t seem to care about the details and now, there’s a very real chance the Teflon Don ends up in the White House.

As we come up on the Iowa caucus, voters want to know how the candidates plan to turn campaign trail word into political deed and Trump has some ideas on how to reinvigorate America's dying manufacturing sector. For one thing, Trump thinks, we should shutdown Foxconn and get to making iPhones in the Rust Belt.

"We're going to get Apple to build their damn computers and things in this country instead of in other countries," Trump told a crowd at Liberty University in Virginia on Monday.

As ZDNet notes, Trump didn't elaborate on how he's going to compel Tim Cook to build his "damn computers" in America (perhaps Trump's friend Carl Icahn can help with that), but presumably he's threatening to impose punishing tariffs. 

"Trump has similar plans for carmaker Ford, which he once again censured for investing $2.5bn on manufacturing plants in Mexico," ZDNet writes. "His answer to forcing the auto-maker's hand on the issue is a new tariff on vehicles made in Mexico, although the plants he referred to in fact make parts, rather than entire vehicles."

"For every car, truck and whatever else you're building, you're going to pay a 35 percent tax every time you bring a car across the border," he said.

We suppose you can just substitute "iPhone" for "car" in the bolded passage above. Note that there's something terribly ironic about claiming to support "free trade" and then threatening to impose 35% tariffs on imports.

For his part, Tim Cook says it's not about cheap labor, but rather about a skills gap. "You could take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in the room we're sitting. In China you would need football fields. It was a focus of their education system and so that is the reality," Cook said last month.

But Trump isn't interested in "reality," and indeed his poll numbers suggest he's rather adept at defying it. 

If there's any truth to what Cook says however, Trump may want to consider how to go about changing the face of America's higher education system which currently churns out millions of job seekers with "skills" that nobody wants. These graduates go on to become highly educated waiters and bartenders forced to resort to serving beer and wings to pay off the $50,000 loan they took out to finance an art history degree. Taxing iPhones to force job repatriation won't fix that. Neither will a Bernie Sanders-style free college for everyone scheme. And neither will the continued push towards a increasingly financialized economy. 

As usual, Trump seems to have the right idea (that America would do well to start making things again) but the wrong action plan.

Full speech at Liberty University below.

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One And Only's picture

Hell yeah! 'murica!

Hitlery_4_Dictator's picture

I'M GETTING SCARED. I THOUGHT THE NFL PLAYOFFS WERE GOING TO SAVE US? THE STUPER BOWL CANT GET HERE FAST ENOUGH!!! SAVE US NFL!! THE SHEEPLE DEMAND IT!

Father Thyme's picture
Father Thyme (not verified) Hitlery_4_Dictator Jan 19, 2016 1:19 PM

Punt.

Haus-Targaryen's picture

Force a private company to do something like this ... I knew he was a fascist.  

Downvote away. 

MagicHandPuppet's picture

Clearly, he's a Windows User :p

Clint Liquor's picture

Apple would have to import the labor. I don't think they can get Americans to work a 16 hr day for a fishhead and a bowl of rice.

Skateboarder's picture

Fabrication and assembly are one part. Assembly is a whole another beast. iPhones are assembled by small, skilled Chinese woman hands. I'd like to see American millennials step up to bat and assemble these damn things instead of just playing on them.

Save_America1st's picture

doesn't the U.S. have the highest corporate tax in the world at 40%?

why not just get rid of that shit and get rid of the loopholes that compaines like GE have used to pay absolutely zero taxes ever after making hundreds of billions every year.  They only seem to pay lobbyists and politicians instead.

Get rid of the insane taxes on everybody and you'll see manufacturing jobs explode in America once again.

Money Counterfeiter's picture
Money Counterfeiter (not verified) Save_America1st Jan 19, 2016 2:01 PM

Ever hear of Smoot-Hawley?  Yea they were some real tariffs, jacked up unemployment from a measly 10% to a real ball buster 25%.

 Donald Trump- Herbert Hoover Part II.

Silky Johnson's picture

Ever wonder why Trump's mouth is shaped the way it is? It's because it's an asshole and shit comes out of it.

The Juggernaut's picture

Even some sheeple on ZH still think that the mainstream media would display the best choice for President or even some sort of disrupter.  Any candidate that's truly disruptive by supporting your Liberty and the US Consitituion will be blackedout like Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napaolitano was.  Trump is garbage.

 

Silky Johnson's picture

Spot on, they won't show you the medicine, they'll only give you more dope.

cheka's picture

damn right.

anything made overseas = tariff before it's allowed to dock

use tariff proceeds to reduce/eliminate income taxes

BOOM

The Juggernaut's picture

Domestic tariffs (taxes) is what made USA domestic companies leave!  Trumps solutions is more tariffs? Lol  crazy.  And people support him!?   Sad.

hal10000's picture

Protectionism is what built and sheltered American industrial growth in the first place.\

It also didn't hurt that your major competitors in the Europe were too busy and spend ungodly amounts of time and money ethnically cleansing each other.

EddieLomax's picture

Yep, the British solved their great depression in the 30's with a mixture of spending cuts and tariffs.

Tariffs do mean you end up paying more than you need to for something, but when you levy all manner of enviromental rules on your own business then its obvious that the foreign business that is busy deforesting Indonesia, using slave labour in China and every other loathsome method will prosper.

One thing for sure, if Trump gets in then this downturn in China is going to turn ugly, really ugly.  Right now they are manipulating their currency and using government funding (paid for by slave labour and credit) to drive their competitors out of business, if that game no longer works they actually need to have a functioning economy, I predict a collapse.

Dindu Nuffin's picture

Yea.  I always did figure it was odd that Trump was given so much press time.  Ron Paul or Judge Napalitano would have been great options...  What you just said, made me so depressed... b/c its so accurate.

The Blank Stare's picture

Note that there's something terribly ironic about claiming to support "free trade" and then threatening to impose 35% tariffs on imports.

 

Stopped reading right there. Fuck off dumbass

thesonandheir's picture

I'm sorry but he is right - we need tariffs desperately implementing again to stave off rampant globalization. I know this was tried before in the 1930's to much dismay but it cannot go on like this where decent jobs are shipped abroad to the lowest wage countries. The West will just end up serving McDonalds meals to each other.

Silky Johnson's picture

Tariffs are for fat bastards who can't compete in the real world. We have no shortage of fat, stupid, unskilled people that want to sit on their fat asses and collect .gov checks. Tariffs enable that bullshit. Sink or swim motherfucker.

Mercuryquicksilver's picture

Read up on US income tax vs tariff history and you'll likely come to a different conclusion.

 

Of course .gov didnt run rampant hidden tax schemes to buy entitlement/MIC votes in 1776 or 1812.

cheka's picture

that 1937 tariff is a canard used by the globalists.  it was a stop-gap measure to try and stop the destruction of the US by the globalist banksters

the depression was rolling along full force long before the tariff

the AMERICAN SYSTEM was NO income tax and import tariffs

nyc/dc changed that to high income tax and no tariffs

we've been lied to for decades

surprised?

hal10000's picture

Yeah, taxes are about transferring the wealth from the bottom to the top.  The way they keep people happy is by using some of the remaining change for social issues like education.  The bulk of it goes to overcharging contractors, big pharma, the parasites in the financial world.  Basically, you tax income from work so you can then give it to a bunch of lazy white slob suit-wearing douchebags in places like NYC who spend their entire worthless days doing "board meetings."

Remember, we work so they don't have to.

Expat and Happy's picture

No kidding.

Why is everyone reflexively shouting TARIFFS when this could be accomplished with TAXES (or, a lack thereof) instead?

Wait, we know why everyone is shouting.

Singelguy's picture

The 1% don't eat at McDonalds. They will be the only ones left with any money to spend.

logicalman's picture

Blah blah blah.

The problem is that those who produce things of value are preyed upon by parasitic psychopaths.

Countries are one of the tools they use against their host species.

Tariffs are a tool of government, where the 'connected' get to choose favourites whether joe public likes it/benefits from it, or not (Mostly not, it would seem)

Bananamerican's picture

to have access to Chinese markets China INSISTS that companies MANUFACTURE in China....

so why the FUCK don't we do that?

cuz Slave Lives Matter™

EddieLomax's picture

Yep, it is free trade, but operated by stupid leaders on one side and smart ones on the other.  If America just does what China does in return they would completely destroy the Chinese economy in a few years.

logicalman's picture

How can you have 'free trade' when, in every transaction, government stands in the middle skimming off from both sides?

 

fallout11's picture

Because that is how the US government funded operations prior to the illegal, unconstitutional income tax act (1776-1913), and how the Constitution says it is supposed to work.

Dindu Nuffin's picture

Stupid implies they don't know what they are doing.  The jewish liberal party is VERY aware of what they are doing.  This is by DESIGN.

omniversling's picture

"Slave Lives Matter™ 

hahahahahaha...good one! Either you left the sarc/off, or you mean they matter for undertakers.  Soylent Green, coming to a shelf near you...

Mr.Sono's picture

So when usd collapses, Chinese will need iPhones. Makes perfect sense

logicalman's picture

Nobody needs an iPhone.

If you want me to have one, you are going to have your work cut out.

Pay for a spy in my pocket?

Not a chance.

 

Gavrikon's picture

Smoot-Hawley, Smoot-Hawley.

Don't you retards ever tire of bringing up an issue that had nothing to do with the (first) Great Depression?

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) Skateboarder Jan 19, 2016 1:58 PM

The move to a fully robotic manufacturing must be done in America.  I hope president Sanders encourages this.

Cruel Aid's picture

Thats not the communist way. Outlaw robotics and supply workerbees... thats the shit he reads about economics

 

Edit: i dont downvote, just saying Bernie is a socialist in a rugged individualistic society. At least thats how it used to be and the way it should be. Independent and self sufficient.

MANvsMACHINE's picture

If we teach 4 and 5 year olds how to assemble the iPhones, I think their hands will be small enough.  By the time they are 7-8, they can move on to mopping floors and parking cars.

Skateboarder's picture

They'll learn more than they do in skool, tell you that much.

GoldRulesPaperDrools's picture

Hey, it's `skoo`, can't you spell? ;)

83_vf_1100_c's picture

The Harley tariff circa 1984 saved Harley Davidson. More to it than just the import tax buy Harley is now a very viable company. Their bikes suck ass but jmho and many old guys disagree.

Cruel Aid's picture

your name id, i had that bike, good times on the street

Nexus789's picture

They would not needto. Foxconn are taking about using robot based assembly. Apple have $200billion+ cash. They could set up in the US.

insanelysane's picture

Haus,

Apparently you've never heard of the word tariff?  It is a means to incentivise companies to manufacture product locally.  They are all the rage everywhere except in the US of A.  If you don't have a factory in China you ain't selling shit in China.

Haus-Targaryen's picture

Sure, and if he said "I'll tariff the shit out of China" that wouldn't be a problem.  Foxconn moves to Thailand or some other nook, and we need a new tariff.  

Or he could do a blanket tariff (which I think is an excellent idea) to encourage domestic production, but he didn't say that.  He said he would force them to produce products in the US, which cannot be accomplished with a tariff.  

Had he said tariff, I wouldn't have had a problem, but he is running for POTUS, and whenever anyone (Sanders gives me the heebeegeebees as well) running for public office says "I'm gonna force X to do Y" I immediately think authoritarian.

 

g'kar's picture

"I immediately think authoritarian"

 

yep...trump would be better off announcing he'd dismantle all the .gov regulations (rules, taxes and fees) that have made it cheaper to go somewhere else with the factories

Gavrikon's picture

Super.  Let's do that.  And if it doesn't work, I want tariffs!

BTW, AA is one of the worst things ever forced on US corporations.

greenskeeper carl's picture

You were right above, HTThe trumpeters on here don't like it when you criticize the donald. Apparently he is above reproach. But yes, authoritarian indeed. Couple statements like this one with his "main go-to guy on foreign policy" being john Bolton, probably the biggest warmonger there is, and you have what any semi awake individual can see is an authoritarian. I refuse to support those, and so should everyone else.

Just remember, guys - when he ends up forcing you to do shit you don't like or costs you money, you wanted this.