65,000% Spike In Reported Radioactivity After Tritium Leaks At Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant

Tyler Durden's picture

Two years after being fined for falsifying safety records, nine months after a transformer exploded at the Indian Point Nuclear Reactor just 37 miles from midtown Manhattan, and two months after Entergy - the plant's operator - shut down the Unit 2 reactor after a major power outage cut power to several control rods (when the company assured that no radioactivity was released into the environment), this afternoon NY Governor Andrew Cuomo said he learned that "radioactive tritium-contaminated water" had leaked into the groundwater at the nuclear facility in Westchester County.

Cuomo, in a letter Saturday to the state Health Department and the Department of Environmental Conservation, called for the probe into the Indian Point NPP after he said Entergy, the plant's owner, reported "alarming levels of radioactivity" at three monitoring wells, with one well’s radioactivity increasing nearly 65,000 percent.


It is unclear if the facility was taking a page out of the Fukushima "crisis response" book, or was being honest when it said that the contamination has not migrated off site "and as such does not pose an immediate threat to public health." For the sake of millions of downriver New Yorkers, we hope it was the latter. 

From Cuomo's statement:

“Yesterday I learned that radioactive tritium-contaminated water leaked into the groundwater at the Indian Point Nuclear facility.  The company reported alarming levels of radioactivity at three monitoring wells, with one well’s radioactivity increasing nearly 65,000 percent. The facility reports that the contamination has not migrated off site and as such does not pose an immediate threat to public health.


"Our first concern is for the health and safety of the residents close to the facility and ensuring the groundwater leak ‎does not pose a threat.


“This latest failure at Indian Point is unacceptable and I have directed Department of Environmental Conservation Acting Commissioner Basil Seggos and Department of Health Commissioner Howard Zucker to fully investigate this incident and employ all available measures, including working with Nuclear Regulatory Commission, to determine the extent of the release, its likely duration, cause and potential impacts to the environment and public health.”


The Governor’s letter directing Acting Commissioner Seggos and Commissioner Zucker to their begin investigation can be viewed here. The text of that letter is also available below:

Despite Indian Point's denial that the contamination has migrated off site, Cuomo said that the incident requires a full investigation.

There was no immediate comment from Indian Point on the situation, Lohud reported.

The plant, located in Buchanan, NY which supplies about 30 percent of the energy to New York City, has been under increased scrutiny from Cuomo's office, and the Democratic governor supports closing the plant, even as he supports keeping open two other upstate nuclear facilities.

In December, Cuomo ordered an investigation into Indian Point after a series of unplanned shutdowns, citing its risks being just outside the city and in the populated suburbs.

Cuomo said the “latest failure at Indian Point is unacceptable" adding that the DEC and health department should "employ all available measures, including working with Nuclear Regulatory Commission, to determine the extent of the release, its likely duration, cause and potential impacts to the environment and public health.”

In other words, nothing will change.

Which is probably why such failure escalations, which lead to a lot of verbal jawboning and shuffling of papers and nothing else, will continue until one day the failure leads to tragic consequences and everyone will say how nobody could have possibly seen this coming.

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Cuomo's full letter directing Acting Commissioner Seggos and Commissioner Zucker to their begin investigation can be viewed here. The text of that letter is also available below:

Dear Commissioners Zucker and Seggos:


I am deeply concerned to have learned that radioactive tritium-contaminated water has recently leaked from operations at the Entergy Indian Point Energy Center (Indian Point) into groundwater at the site.  This is not the first such release of radioactive water at Indian Point, nor is this the first time that Indian Point has experienced significant failure in its operation and maintenance. This failure continues to demonstrate that Indian Point cannot continue to operate in a manner that is protective of public health and the environment.


The levels of radioactivity reported this week are significantly higher than in past incidents.  Three of forty monitoring wells registered alarming increases.  In fact, one of the monitoring well increased nearly 65,000 percent from 12,300 picocuries per liter to over 8,000,000 picocuries per liter.


Our first concern is for the health and safety of the residents close to the facility and ensuring the groundwater leak does not pose a threat. As such, I am directing you to fully investigate this incident and employ all available measures, including working with Nuclear Regulatory Commission, to determine the extent of the release, its likely duration, its causes, its potential impacts to the environment and public health, and how the release can be contained.  We need to identify whether this incident could have been avoided by exercising reasonable care.  We also need to know how a recurrence of this episode can be avoided by specific steps that Entergy should be taking.


Please report back at the completion of the investigation.


                                                                        ANDREW M. CUOMO

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Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Back in the 70's I was one of those long haired "hippies" warning these things could happen. Everyone was assured things like this could never happen, along with the promise nuke power would be almost too cheap to meter.


<And the NRC would never ever extend the operating license beyond the initial 35-40 year license. NEVER!>

Scooby Dooby Doo's picture

Scooby does not like radioactive stuff. Shaggy! Help!

BurningFuld's picture

So what is the problem? Drink Beer.

remain calm's picture

BUY A COMPANY CALLED CBLI. They have a product that is waiting FDA approval any day now. It is the ONLY product available for treating radiation toxicity. You are welcome ahaed of time, just buy me a beer when it hits.

Paveway IV's picture

Eight million picocuries per liter is pretty high. If you were drinking that water - regardless of how it was purified - you would be receiving about 1500 mRem/year. Exposure limits for a child are about 100 mRem, so that exceeds what a child should be exposed to externally by 15x. But all that would be internal, so there's a few magnitudes of order more risk.

True, tritium is a weak beta emitter and can't penetrate much skin, but if it's inside your stomach, intestines, blood and organs, then it's right fucking next to your cells (and their chromosomes). I would swim in 8,000,000 picocurie water without hesitation because it's not getting through my skin. I damn sure wouldn't drink it and assume that the 'low-energy beta' wasn't scrambling my God damn chromosomes. 

The contaminated water isn't anywhere near a lethal dose, but it sure as hell is not an insignificant dose.

The reason the contaminated groundwater did not migrate off the plant property is because the groundwater flows into the river. So all the tritium in the groundwater there will eventually end up in the Hudson river. Which pales in comparison to the amount of gaseous tritium and tritiated water released by normal operations of the plant legally each year. All nuclear plant spew tritium all the time.

And then you have this from RiverKeeper:

...The Indian Point nuclear power plant has a long history of accidental radioactive leaks and spills: spent fuel pools at the plant housing toxic nuclear waste have been leaking since the 1990s; corroded buried pipes have sprung radioactive leaks; tanks have spilled hundreds of gallons radioactively contaminated water; and malfunctioning valves and pumps have leaked radionuclide-laden water...

There was that small 'leak' of 20,000 gallons of seriously radioactive coolant into the atmosphere as steam on Feb. 15, 2000. Followed by a 200 gallon leak of radioactive water a week later. They still find Strontium-90 in Hudson River fish.

They were scratching their heads about high tritium levels in monitoring wells ever since they were put in. NYT from June, 2014: Indian Point’s Tritium Problem and the N.R.C.’s Regulatory Problem

One cannot even begin to have a rational discussion on the merits and risks of nuclear power generation when you have a cheap-ass corp like Entergy trying to squeeze a buck out of their ancient, decrepit, piece-of-shit plants. The people that work there are top notch, but the plants have been run into the ground. They are as safe as the lawyers force them to be, and not a penny more.

Entergy and Exelon are fucknig ghetto NPP operators on par with TEPCO. Their nuclear plant fleet exists solely on U.S. government welfare and ratepayer extortion. Their plants are too expensive to run and even more expensive to shut down due to corporate greed and mismanagement. When one of Entergy or Exelon's plants melt down, you will see them deny any responsibility on a massive scale that will dwarf the TEPCO cowards. Anything the Japanese can fuck up, we can fuck up FAR worse (except you won't hear about it in the U.S until two weeks later on ZeroHedge).

Bunghole's picture

Tritium be good fo yo bitchez.

Save_America1st's picture

"Peaceful" radiation isn't harmful or deadly to you.  Some radiation is only "bad" for you if you get a bomb full of it dropped in your general location by us...and that's only because you were being bad people and forced us to drop "bad" radiation on you. 

Other than that, peaceful radiation is totally okay for you...can you even see peaceful radiation?  Of course not.  Therefore, how can it be dangerous in any way?


Your loving gov-scum, sociopaths.

Keep Calm and Continue Breathing it in deeeeeeeeeeply, "folks".  Peaceful radiation tastes just like Kool-aid.  Just ask the Japaneses peoples.  ;-)

JamesBond's picture

If TMI went no where decades ago, kiss this one off now...


"The plaintiffs' failure to prove their assertion that one or more unreported hydrogen

"blowouts" in the reactor system caused one or more unreported radiation "spikes",

producing a narrow yet highly concentrated plume of radioactive gases.

Judge Rambo concluded: "The parties to the instant action have had nearly two

decades to muster evidence in support of their respective cases.... The paucity of proof

alleged in support of Plaintiffs' case is manifest. The court has searched the record for

any and all evidence which construed in a light most favourable to Plaintiffs creates a

genuine issue of material fact warranting submission of their claims to a jury. This effort

has been in vain."

More than a dozen major, independent studies have assessed the radiation releases

and possible effects on the people and the environment around TMI since the 1979

accident at TMI-2. The most recent was a 13-year study on 32,000 people. None has

found any adverse health effects such as cancers which might be linked to the accident."

Paveway IV's picture

One banana dose max, maybe two. 

My little brother's Marine unit from the midwest was dispatched to (well, somewhere 'nearby') TMI. Never officially told what their mission was before they left, but they were briefed on civil unrest nazi tactics. Of course, their first question was "Why the fuck would anyone ever be rioting because of TMI? Nothing was released!"

It turns out they were not deployed there to quell any anti-nuke riots. They were deployed in case the feds decided to block the roads and enforce martial law if people panicked and all tried to leave the area. Their job was to PREVENT a mass evacuation by controlling the roads. Government officials were freaking out and had the cops and some of the marines monitoring the major highways out for signs of too many people leaving at once. Turns out a crapload DID pack up and leave and some roads out were jam-packed - it was all censored by government command. The marines never did get the order to 'contain' the civilians and mostly just sat around wondering what the hell was going on.

They told the marines that there was no danger from TMI, but they had to protect the people from endangering themselves by evacuating! The news was heavily censored and everything that did come out was a fucking LIE. They told the marines that they were not allowed to speak to anybody about anything they heard or saw during the ten days they were there. News of their unit (and others) deployment never made it to national news. They were not downwind - a rare bit of luck for a marine.

And that non-release at TMI? There's other studies that can still find and map out the layer of refractory products from the burning fuel rods in contaminated soil in Pennsylvania ten miles downwind of TMI TODAY. Yeah, nothing to worry about. People who think happy thoughts (and evacuate before martial law is declared) don't get cancer. 

The first thing I will do if one of the nuclear boilers upwind of me has some 'nothing to worry about' accident is 1) assume the government and NRC are lying, and 2) get the hell away from there as fast and far as possible before the government arrives to 'help' me.

MalteseFalcon's picture

The establishment eco-freaks, the ones pushing the global climate change scam, are insisting that nuclear emits no greenhouse gases and so must be a meaningful part of the future energy "mix".

Apparently nuclear pollution is not counted in their ecological formula.

And the ultimate cost of clean up is never included their financial formula.

And the risk these dirty bombs pose in time of war is not included in their defense formula.

These SOBs will not let you own a wood stove, but think that running these nuclear "stink pots" is perfectly OK.

Stuck on Zero's picture

I'll tell you how most Tritium is disposed of.  It's not super dangerous so most producers of Tritium dilute it with clean water until it falls below the threshold for discharge and then dump it in the sewer. 

HockeyFool's picture

The solution to pollution is dilution.

TheReplacement's picture

Finite world < infinite pollution

Freddie's picture

My only wish is this reactor was closer to Goldman Sachs HQ and the NY Fed at 33 Liberty Street.

Well it is pretty close to Armonk and not that far from Greenwich, CT.

I M DeMan's picture

" It's contained. "


When you hear that statement from the poly-tician, that's when you know you 've got to pack up fast and run for your life!

SixIsNinE's picture

could CBLI have a product similar to EX-RAD ?

Ex-Rad, the U.S. Military's Radiation Wonder Drug

By Van Hipp

Published March 16, 2011 

| FoxNews.com

These are tragic and tense days indeed in Japan.

The immense loss of life and absolute devastation caused by last week’s earthquake and tsunami is heartbreaking – and serve as the culprits in this unimaginable tragedy. The tension, felt by its citizens and far beyond the country’s borders, centers most immediately on what happens next at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility.

Reports of radioactive contamination and a potential meltdown at the complex have many Americans wondering how prepared our own government would be in the event something similar occurred here. More specifically, could the the health of residents living near a severely damaged nuclear reactor in the U.S. be ensured?

Thanks to the advanced work of the men and women who develop our nation’s military medicine, the answer is yes – but only if the government now takes the necessary steps.

In what has to be one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of military medicine, the U. S. military has developed a radiation protection drug known as Ex-Rad that can give protection through DNA repair against otherwise lethal dosages of radiation. Ex-Rad, which is administered as an injection or orally, can be given either before or after exposure. While Ex-Rad officials are continuing to work with the FDA, it has successfully cleared two clinical studies showing it is safe.

Ex-Rad’s life-saving utility isn’t limited to countering radiation exposure near a compromised nuclear facility. From potentially enabling cancer patients to withstand greater levels of radiation to protecting soldiers deployed into radioactive “hot zones,” this drug delivers critical help and hope.

During most of the last decade, U.S. military scientists at the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute have worked with some of the best scientists in the American private sector to develop this radiation protection wonder drug.

As someone who’s had the privilege to interact with these scientists over the years and watch the development of Ex-Rad, I’ve seen it grow from just a dream into a very real capability that can save lives.

Unfortunately, due to a lack of media awareness about its development in the U.S., Ex-Rad is probably the most important new drug the American public has never heard of. But thanks to the public writings of senior scientists from the U.S. Department of Defense, the private sector, and the prestigious Radiation Effects Research Foundation (based in Hiroshima, Japan) the secret about this breakthrough drug is finally getting out. And it’s happening not a moment too soon.

The U.S. Army recently recommended to the Office of the Secretary of Defense that Ex-Rad be stockpiled for the benefit of our military. That puts the ball in the court of Pentagon leadership to make certain one of military medicine’s most successful achievements in recent years is fully realized and able to benefit Americans.

With our nation facing a litany of threats today, American scientists at government agencies including the Departments of Defense, Energy, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services among others are developing mature technologies and counter-measures with the potential to save millions of lives. Many of these life-saving discoveries have positive and far-reaching implications well beyond the narrow scope of that particular department. Ex-Rad is just latest example of medical innovation being developed by our military. Although we don't hear about it, we need to hear more and we to support it. 

The challenge for the Obama administration is to ensure that these various efforts are well coordinated and communicated throughout the government – and that the American taxpayers are ultimately provided the return they deserve on their hefty investment.

There’s something for Congress to keep in mind as well.

Some on Capitol Hill have questioned the value and relevance of U.S. military medicine in recent weeks. Obviously, these members have forgotten their history lesson on the significant contributions of Dr. Walter Reed and others who helped wipe out disease and save lives. They’ve also forgotten that when the Bush administration sought the creation of a real-time biological defense capability for the American people, it turned to the Pentagon and military medicine.

There’s no doubt about it, medical results trump political rhetoric every time. Ex-Rad is just the latest evidence that U.S. military medicine is meeting our most difficult medical challenges and leading the way in saving lives.

Van D. Hipp Jr. is chairman of American Defense International, Inc., a Washington, D.C.-based consulting firm specializing in government affairs, business development and public relations. He is the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Army.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/16/ex-rad-militarys-radiation-wonder-drug/#ixzz1M5sijLI9

TheReplacement's picture

Sounds like .gov should buy the patent and release the formula to the world at large as a gesture of good will to humanity. 

Nah, we'll keep it for the .gov class.

iinthesky's picture

I live in Rockland,  about 35 miles west of Indian Point.  I studied the wind patterns for the very purpose of understanding how much danger my family might be in.  I discovered that the prevailing winds are almost invariably westerly and northerly winds.  This means that folks in westchester,  dutches,  all of conn.  Mass.  And northeast are going to get blasted by radioactivity measuring at least 1 rad.  Manhattan,  however,  in a bad accident will be rendered unihabitable and people there will get blasted by radioactivity as well as brooklyn,  queens,  and most of long island again with at least 1 rad but likely much much more as that radioactive cloud spreads. 

This is madness. 

Keeping a very good supply of ingestible Iodine is a very very good idea these days! 

goldhedge's picture

Don't worry a guy called Homer Simpson is in control of the safety at the plant.

SWRichmond's picture

Tritium is a weak Beta emitter and isn't IMO a huge health risk.  The monitoring wells are there for are reason, and this is it.  Somebody had better figure out the source and right goddammed now.  The problem with tritium is there's no way to separate it (T2O) from "regular" H2O.



Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

When will the corium show up at the party?!?

NoDebt's picture

Times like this make me wish I understood more about nuclear plant operations and theories behind them.

From my level of ignorance, it sure looks like it's time to stop using terms like "containment vessels".  They don't seem to do a very good job "containing" much.  Do they do this nuclear shit in a 5 gallon plastic bucket?  These things seem as fragile as some kid's HS science project.  "It worked at home but all the magic goo leaked out while I was transporting it to the science fair".

This shit is NEVER going to be safe.

Yen Cross's picture

  The only safe place to be, is in the middle of a desert, with a mini -Nuke desalination plant. ;-)

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Nuclear reactors are a wonderful example of human scientific arrogance.  Yes, they produce electricty.  But to protect humans from annihilation, those units must withstand incredibly challenging combinations of heat and pressure at damn near 100% success levels.  A reactor vessel, even one with 6-foot thick concrete and 2-foot thick steel, needs to be replaced every 30 years or so.  But that means building a new reactor, which is damn near politically impossible.  Also, the human short-sightedness is mind-boggling in terms of the long-term (as in 1000s of years) storage necessary for the spent fuel.  Nuclear energy is simply not a good risk-reward, when the tail risks are considered.

COSMOS's picture

We only have one planet, we are shitting where we eat and sleep.  That cant be good especially when this shit is bad for you for thousands of years.

GhostOfDiogenes's picture
GhostOfDiogenes (not verified) SWRichmond Feb 6, 2016 7:21 PM

"Tritium is a weak Beta emitter and isn't IMO a huge health risk."

Not for you maybe. How far away are you, again?

If it gets into ground water it is very bad.

But you know everything.

RECISION's picture

Tritium also has a half-life of practically nothing.

So in any event, the Tritium isn't really an issue.

I would be considerably more worried about what else was leaking out in conjuction with the Tritium.

( some further reading:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium#Health_risks )


Wile-E-Coyote's picture

Jasus between radioactive gas spewing out of California and the wind and sea bringing radiation from Fukushima, the average American is going to end up looking like some blob riding a disability scooter..oh wait!

Implied Violins's picture

Yeah, you got that right. We are already there...

But now this is twice in two days, folks. I got downvoted often in the Aliso Canyon thread for saying to watch for this shit, because these bastards are upping their game now. So, keep score bitchez. This is going to keep going on, maybe in other ways (revelations of metals in water; unsafe air releases; more food showing contamination etc.), but these psychopathic bastards have decided they don't need us any more, and THIS is the year they try to END US.

Go ahead and downvote me for 'alarmism'. All I care about is that we start PAYING ATTENTION to all of these happenings, in a holistic way, and realize that there is NO WAY that ALL of this evil bullshit around the world is due to 'statistical noise' and 'just cheap bastards trying to save money'. This shit is preconceived and INTENTIONAL.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. Our survival as a species depends on it.

knukles's picture

Hah!  A confession!  So you're still a subversive!  Off to Aunt Hillary's Perpetual Camp of Fun for you!
"Your honor, the defendant has virtually admitted all his sins on Facebook!   Ladies and gentlemen, before you come to a guilty verdict, I'd appreciate if you'd consider the deep irony of his confession.  That it was Virtual.  On Facebook.  Get it!  Virtual?  Hah ha ha ha   A round of drinks for the Jury on the prosecution!  Dissenting voters will be dealt with harshly."
"Hang him!", they cried, "Hang him!  Where are our drinkieopoos?!?!?!"

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

I prefer the label vicious contrarian who wields a nasty stink eye over 'subversive'. However I no longer prefer long hair......except to comb over the nearly bald spot. I can't stay awake past 11 PM and there are always at least two trips each night to the potty. :-)

And that ringing in my ears did not come from 130 decibel rock concerts, but rather a brutally vicious beating at the hands of the Seabrook, NH police department, who did not take well to long hair hippies protesting their local jobs project aka the Seabrook Nuclear plant.

Personally I suspect my dead body would have been dumped in some newly poured concrete at the plant if the ACLU hadn't taken notice I had not been released with all the others. The police didn't like my smart ass mouth.

knukles's picture

You got me on most counts!  I'm done gone by 9pm, but do get up at 5, morning meetings being a must, still have my hair, Monday am scheduled for a brace of hearing aids, have Tinnitus, old man aches and pains galore and spend my remaining days committed to awakenings while temporally, a mere casual observer of the human condition. 
Pray do not place yourself in situations as when you were young.  We need you. 
Blessings and Regards to Mrs C.

peddling-fiction's picture


Is it continuous tinnitus, or are there moments when it changes abruptly?

Do you only hear Tinnitus at home?

BurningFuld's picture

There is a really easy clean up solution here.

1)dig big on site hole.

2) let hole fill with radioactive water.

3) scoop up up water in large helicopter water drop bucket

4) drop on Whitehouse.

AgShaman's picture

Its too bad there were so few that appreciated the wisdom of the 'Long hairs' from the seventies


Humans will orchestrate the ELE....complacency will ensure it

AngrySparky's picture

A lot of those long haired hippies developed cancer and were saved due to the modern marvel called "Nuclear medicine"

AgShaman's picture

Well, they did cause it after all. There are better cures nowadays, outside the grip of the 'Medical Mafia'

SgtShaftoe's picture

Remind me what the long term effects are of radiation therapy?  Oh, yea, cancer.  The cancer treatment gives you cancer albiet with a time delay fuse. 

If I get the big C, I will never see an Oncologist.  I've seen that mistake too many times with close family members.  Eat good food and start with zero long-term side-effect treatments like vitamin C, essiac, phoenix tears,  et al. 


We are all down winders now.

This and Fukushima makes the deliberate releases of radioactive elements at Hanford plus government bomb testing from the fourties through the seventies look like fucking amateur hour.

Like farting in the bathtub versus setting off a hundred pounds of tannerite in same.

Hopefully, I grow a Doublemint dick as a bonus for exposure.

" Twice the flavor, twice the fun, you gotta like the Doublemint gum. "

Thanks, Wrigleys.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Your post has been forwarded by the NSA to the President.  We understand he's interested in Michelle growing a Doublemint dick as well.


Take these LYING SACK OF SHIT corporate overlord fucktards down to the spent fuel pools, and make them do laps to prep for the 5000 meter Olympic swim.

Same with all of the Tepco scum.

Let them eat cesium.

CPL's picture

A 50 year engineered solution to contain a nuclear reaction that lasts thousands of years.  With no ability to shut it down only leads one place.

NoPension's picture

True story.
In the early seventies, my buddy came out of college with an engineering degree. He was hired by a company building a nuke plant on the west coast, I believe. He was hired as an " inspector". As he tells it, it was more like he was young and assumed easily manipulated. His job and " responsibility" was to sign off on rebar and concrete, etc.
Not to get too technical, but they were building the containment shell.The big ( 1-1/4+) rebars are joined by exploding a charge that fuses them together. There is also a shit ton of technicnical paperwork that needs to accompany the work.
When he went to sign off, the paperwork was not in order. He failed the work. And it was a crapload of work, rebar all the way around the perimeter of the containment. They pressured. They pleaded. They threatened.
He would not sign off. ( he knew, if anything happened, ANYTHING, he would be a fall guy) .
He finally said, let's call the Nuclear Regulatory Commission , and ask them what to do.
He said they turned pale as ghosts!
It was resolved by destructive inspection of every 8 or 10 joints, with paperwork, blah blah. The work was ok. But, the rules and specs required the paperwork and such.
Now, how many men don't have his balls, common sense, or intelligence, or just want to keep their job.

Today, I don't trust any of this shit where failure is not an option.

SixIsNinE's picture

check out this guys sleuthing  - "Polarization Nation Media" on youtube - he's done some very interesting work as looking at movies for their coded messages (think the Lone Gunman episode a few months before 9/11 which described the whole event) - anyway, he has done extensive work on the Back to the Future movie.  It clearly shows 9/11 predictions. And another event - this one is  10/4/16  October 4th, 2016 and Polarization Nation Media predicts it will be the San Onofre nuke plants out near San Diego. 


that's one of the links - have fun!