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An Exasperated John Kerry Throws In Towel On Syria: "What Do You Want Me To Do, Go To War With The Russians?!"
“Russian and Syrian forces intensified their campaign on rebel-held areas around Aleppo that are still home to around 350,000 people and aid workers have said the city - Syria's largest before the war - could soon fall.”
Can you spot what’s wrong with that quote, from a Reuters piece out today? Here’s the problem: “could soon fall” implies that Aleppo is on the verge of succumbing to enemy forces. It’s not. It’s already in enemy hands and has been for quite some time. What Reuters should have said is this: “...could soon be liberated.”
While we’ll be the first to admit that Bashar al-Assad isn’t exactly the most benevolent leader in the history of statecraft, you can bet most Syrians wish this war had never started and if you were to ask those stranded in Aleppo what their quality of life is like now, versus what it was like in 2009, we’re fairly certain you’ll discover that residents aren’t particularly enamored with life under the mishmash of rebels that now control the city.
In any event, Russia and Iran have encircled Aleppo and once it “falls” (to quote Reuters) that’s pretty much it for the opposition. Or at least for the “moderate” opposition. And the Saudis and Turks know it.
So does John Kerry, who is desperate to restart stalled peace negotiations in Geneva. The problem for the US and its regional allies is simple: if Russia and Iran wipe out the opposition on the battlefield, there’s no need for peace talks. The Assad government will have been restored and that will be that. ISIS will still be operating in the east, but that’s a problem Moscow and Tehran will solve in short order once the country’s major urban centers are secured.
As we noted on Saturday, Riyadh and Ankara are extremely concerned that the five-year-old effort to oust Assad is about to collapse and indeed, the ground troop trial balloons have already been floated both in Saudi Arabia and in Turkey. For their part, the Russians and the Iranians have indicated their willingness to discuss a ceasefire but according to John Kerry himself, the opposition is now unwilling to come to the table.
“Don’t blame me – go and blame your opposition,’” an exasperated Kerry told aid workers on the sidelines of the Syria donor conference in London this week.
America’s top diplomat also said that the country should expect another three months of bombing that would “decimate” the opposition, according to Middle East Eye who also says that Kerry left the aid workers with "the distinct impression" that the US is abandoning efforts to support rebel fighters.
In other words, Washington has come to terms with the fact that there's only one way out of this now. It's either go to war with Russia and Iran or admit that this particular effort to bring about regime change in the Mid-East simply isn't salvageable.
"He said that basically, it was the opposition that didn’t want to negotiate and didn’t want a ceasefire, and they walked away,” a second aid worker told MEE.
“‘What do you want me to do? Go to war with Russia? Is that what you want?’” the aid worker said Kerry told her.
MEE also says the US has completely abandoned the idea that Assad should step down. Now, apparently, Washington just wants Assad to stop using barrel bombs so the US can "sell the story to the public." "A third source who claims to have served as a liaison between the Syrian and American governments over the past six months said Kerry had passed the message on to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in October that the US did not want him to be removed," MEE says. "The source claimed that Kerry said if Assad stopped the barrel bombs, Kerry could 'sell the story' to the public, the source said."
Of course Kerry won't be able to "sell" that story to the Saudis and the Turks, or to Qatar all of whom are now weighing their oppositions as the US throws in the towel. "Kerry’s mixed messages after the collapse of the Geneva process have put more pressure on Turkey and Saudi Arabia," MEE concludes. "Both feel extreme unease at the potential collapse of the opposition US-recognised Free Syrian Army."
And so, as we said earlier this week, it's do or die time for Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha. Either this proxy war morphs into a real world war in the next two weeks, or Aleppo "falls" to Assad marking a truly humiliating defeat for US foreign policy and, more importantly, for the Saudis' goal of establishing Sunni hegemony in the Arabian Peninsula.
The only other option is for John Kerry to face the Russians in battle. As is evident from the sources quoted above, Washington clearly does not have the nerve for that.
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I'm going to get those bomb doors open if it harelips everybody in Bear Creek!
I ain’t no doctor, but I think Kerry’s mouth is infected with Toe Fungus. Must be his choice of ketchup. ;-)
Looney
Fuck the Zionist. Go to hell MF's.
The USSA should go to war with Russia. Start by drafting the neocon/neoliberals children and all the chickenhawks screaming for war!
Yep.. Right to the front with them!
Ain’t it interesting - any time WE instigate bloodshed in a far-away-country, no one (including the UN) cares about civilian casualties, humanitarian aid, negotiations, finding political solutions?
It’s only when our (or our allies’) ass is getting kicked, we suddenly want to negotiate!
The Russians and their allies should “kick the Geneva can” for a very long time, while closing Syria’s border with Turkey, a.k.a. “the 98-km zone”.
Without that supply corridor nothing and nobody will get in or out of Syria, making the defeat of ISIS much easier.
Looney
This is exactly what Russia is doing. They will continue to bomb ISIS and AlQuaCIA into Muslim heaven, sending them off to their 72 virgin boys.
If the Amerikans could kick Russia out of Syria, they would have done it already. Instead, we now see the truth, that the USSA giant, when facing a real opponent, has feet of clay.
Paper tiger's burn.
Might wan't to stop aggravating around the Spratleys as well.
This is the US's very own Suez.
I know where we could shove those Idaho spud...Nudelman...
US foreign affairs politicians, of whom most are of distiguished families, appear to all be born with a silver foot in their mouth. The spoon was upgraded via easy credit years ago.
They stand above the crowd in so many ways: priveledged, arrogant, assuming, forceful, and totally useless.
A failure of Amercian war mongering "state craft" thank God.
The picture however shows that Kerry's "clown craft" was a roaring success. I'm sure his word bubble says something about "Ketchup, hahahaha".
Now that cat juggling is has a role in statecraft , perhaps Will Ferrell should be considered for Sec. of State.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ
"What Do You Want Me To Do, Go To War With The Russians?!"
"What do you want me to do? Go to War with the SEE EYE... YAY!?" (there, fixed it)
They SHOOT horses, don't they?
If Saudi Arabia or Turkey takes one step into Syria, better be prepared for blowback and regime change back home. Russia attacking Ankara or Riyadh in response might just shut those barking dogs up.
And all over a pipeline. Poking bears in the eyes with sharp sticks is unadvisable.
Bammy said he was going to change America. Vicory lap!
Must Read: http://canadafreepress.com/article/a-letter-from-barack-obama-to-hillary...
Another author who admits he knows nothing about Syria and has only been following the story since Russia started bombing. Before then he couldn't care less.
Pure horse shit.
I am Chumbawamba.
Well, you could never accuse Kerry of claiming to be the smartest guy in the room. Or second..., or third....
I'd rather have Kerry in the room, instead of Hillary. That being said, I'd rather neither one be in the room.
Why the long face Kerry? Did we back the wrong HORSE? Is the boat sinking swiftly? On the wrong side of the red line?
Saudi Arabia and Turkey appear to be ready to take the baton from the US. With Turkey being a NATO ally and Saudi Arabia being a strong ally of the criminal establishment in Washington (see the 28 pages) it wouldn't take much to pull the US into a larger war to assist them. The US may not have the political will (or the backing of the people) to take on a war with Russia, but if their so called "allies" get involved , we may not have a any choice but to follow suite (see NATO's mutual defense agreement).
And that seems to be the plan for now. The proxy army that they funded and armed backfired and the world wised up to the fact that "moderates" really meant al-Nusra, and ISIS.
If the US was was on the right path, it would have released the 28 pages long ago and held Saudi Arabia accountable for not only the attack on 9/11 but also spreading the form of radical Islamic extremism in the region. They would hold Turkey responsible for it's fascist regime, via persecution of journalists, academics, for funding ISIS, for violating the national sovereignty of Iraq and Syria and it's human rights violations against the curds,
Actions speak louder than words. And our actions dictate that we are more concerned with getting our way in Syria... even if that means a larger war with Russia.
What else would you expect from a bunch of schisters and war mongers.
Well, you could call him Jengis Kahn and throw some service ribbons at him..
Kerry another skeezy jew
Manthong,
It is not Jengis Kahn, but Jengis Cohn. You know, Irish John Cohn.
Key word is DEFENSIVE.. If Turkey is the one that goes into Syria there they are not defending.
Maybe expect a false flag of some sort but I sure as hell hope we do not go against Russia because Turkey and or Saudi Arabia decided to start a war with them.
What history has shown us is that there will be some sort of "border issue" that pulls Turkey into Syria. It will be sold to the American public and Europe that it is a defensive action when in fact it will be an all out invasion.
"While we’ll be the first to admit that Barak Obama (take your pick of GHW Bush, Wm. J Clinton, GW Bush, etc. for a substitue) isn’t exactly the most benevolent leader in the history of statecraft..."
There Chumba, I fixed it for us.
boy is that ever true.
and that "letter" linked by knukles continues the myth that obama is some kind of rabble rouser for the poor and enemy of the rich.
where the fuck is the evidence of this? is jamie dimon in jail? is corzine? did any of the qe money go to the poor? was his ridiculous health care plan even as poor friendly as lbj's medicare done fifty years ago by a warmonger?
answer to all: hell no.
The only way to describe US foreign policy these days is flacid...
It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced.
http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...
~"The only way to describe US foreign policy these days is flacid... "~
I wish I could say I have a hard time with that statement, Keyser, but sadly... I can't. :-)
well played sir, well played.
More like a stiffy looking for a sucker.
Ankara is reasonably safe from the Russians. Riyadh not so much.
You kill the chicken in front of the monkey.
I love the smell of burning hubris in the morning.
Smells like...smells like humilation.
Btw, I'm offering a lifetime membership to ZH to anyone who goes to a Hillary rally anks asks her why a progressive throats CFR dicks
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-brags-about-getting-her-mar...
All Yale Bonesmen. Set your clocks 5 min ahead...
Imagine there's no Islam:
https://youtu.be/Y9NzjeiMkeo BOYCOTT HALALWithout Islam, you would not have Plato, Aristotle and the other Greek philosopghers, which were burned as heresy by the Church in Europe but preserved in Islamic Spain. Without Islam, Judaism would have been wiped of the face of the earth by Christian pogroms that caused Jews to flee to the Islamic world for refuge. Without Islam you wouldn't have algebra or astronomy. Without Islam, you would not have property and inheritance rights for women (granted by Islamic law, prohibited by the Bible). Without Islam, you wouldn't have the guitar, invented in Islamic Spain. Without Islam, you wouldn't have incredible works of art and architecture such as the Taj Mahal and the Dome of the Rock. Without Islam, you wouldnt have Rumi, the most popular poet in the West today. Without Islam, you wouldn't have the First Amendment to the US constitution, guaranteeing religious freedom, which was inspired by the success of the Ottoman millet system and had no precedence in Christian Europe. Without Islam, you would all be speaking Mongolian, as it was the Muslim Mamluk army that defeated the Mongol invasion for the first time at the Battle of Ayn Jalut in 1260.
The list goes on and on. WIthout Islam, we would all be living in stone huts today.
Rhett:
1) What uninterrupted propaganda. I'm on my smartphone so I can't write a lie by lie rebuttal, however, your post is trash.
2) Islam was never what you portray; it is, and always will be, nothing but an endless bloodbath. Tell CAIR to GFY.
Hey, this is BLACK history month.
>>>WIthout Islam, we would all be living in stone huts today.
I have Muslim friends (Shia only), and am NOT on board the anti-Islam War-Wagon. However, to be concise, your claims are idiotic.
To elaborate just a wee bit, not every event (for good or ill) that happened in the MENA region between 630 and 1300 happened "because of Islam". Islam's greatest achievement was political - creating what was essentially a free trade area from the Spain to India. Times were pretty good, and prosperity followed, and the cultural benefits of prosperity. Most of the intellectual richness of that era stems from Greek, Hebrew, Chaldean and other non-Islamic, and certainly non-Arab, sources.
Obviously, political Islam played a major role in history, but ever since the collapse of a functioning Caliphate centuries ago, Islam has lapsed into a stagnant, repressive retrograde movement. Today, these societies would be hard pressed just to re-invent shoe laces.
You might be right. However, the muslim invasion of European lands is genocide and unacceptable. Certainly the rape-fugees are no algebra professors. The Jewish role in promoting, financing and forcing it on us should be documented and dealt with. Their grip on European traitorous governments should be revealed. At this moment I'm not sure if revolts (which will certainly happen this spring) wasn't their goal all along.
Do a search on these terms and you get a funnier story. To cut to the chase search for ...pedophile off hook clinton hillary... This case has amused me for years, Clinton has the guy take a polygraph and of course she is a better lie detector than the polygraph and knows that he has to be guilty.
His type do not register "humiliation". They go more for bloody indignation and disdain.
Tbh, I was aiming rather more at the neocons (Noodles etc) pulling the regime-change strings than an old nag like Kerry...
amazing lack of Zio media coverage of Syria after Putin told US to fuck off, I'll handle this...
exact opposite of the false flag Sarin attack, which was the lead story for several days on PMSNBCNNFAUX as I recall
it's almost like it's not happening...lol
Agreed, hasnt been much news ar all. glad to hear russia is handling the situation and that the US is bowing out. Great news!!
"...and that the US is bowing out."
One would almost think so, right valjoux? Aside from the talking horse's remarks, here's the OTHER scheming that Team Chaos has been up to:
1. AUMF: Obama has been pushing for an Authorization For Use Of Military Force (AUMF) for the last year. Congress can't agree on the conditions and restrictions, and doesn't want to vote on it anyway. Obama is waging his war on ISIL under the 2001 AUMF, but he's afraid that it looks TOO unconstitutional after this long and wants a new one. In order to claim they're doing somethign, Mitch McConnel tossed out a AUMF bill without any conditions or restrictions. Sort of a blanket exception to the Constitution where Obama (or his successor, Hillary) can do anything anywhere without approval if it's somehow related to 'fighting ISIL'. It's so f'king unconstitutional that he doesn''t figure the White House would back it, thus it will never be submitted for a vote or passed. It is intended to shut up critics of Congress while daring Obama to ask for such insane authorization. Nobody has movd on it yet.
2. False Flag: leading to suprise vote for The Mother of all Unconstitutional AUMFs proposed in #1. No idea what it is, but it's coming. Congress will use the excuse that they had to approve somehting right away and didn't have time to debate the merits of #1. White House will plead ignorance and say that Congress did it, not them. This is the obvious plan, though. That's how they do these things in Washington.
3. Troops on the ground today: 4800+ in Iraq training the Iraqi Army. 50 SF guys in Syria assissting (calling in air strikes) for the Kurds and FSA Arabs in northeast Syria. 200 SF guys in some kind of assassination/kidnapping squad aimed at ISIL leadership in Iraq and Syria. Untold number of Blackwater/Xe/Academi psychos doing all kinds of illegal things in Iraq and Syria.
4. Troops on the ground tomorrow: Despite the lack of a remotely plausable AUMF, Obama's little water-boy Ash Carter announced 1,800 more boots-on-the-ground in Iraq to 'train and advise' Peshmerga and the Iraqi Army to take back Mosul from ISIL, then most likely jump across the border into Syria and help the SDF/FSA take back Raqqa. Those troops are from HQ and the 2nd Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division. The same division that had to take Mosul a decade ago and the same division that sent soldiers back in aluminum boxes from retaking the city. I'm sure their sacrifice will be 'worth it' this time, too. Maybe even next time, who knows? You can never retake a foreign city too many times at too high a cost. Besides, the 101st guys volunteered to join the army - they shouldn't mind dying for Israel... er, Iraq... er, freedom and democracy.
5. NATO AWACS: Last week, the U.S. asked fellow members of Team Chaos (ZATO) to send some of its 18 AWACS to Turkey for the fight against. ISIL. Problem is that ISIL doesn't have an air force. Turkey already owns four very modern and powerful AWACS. Seems like an awful lot of Airborn Warning and Command capability for Turkey, who is not at war with any other nation with an air force. The only obvious and credible candidate is Russia, who has no plans to attack Turkey. What is the U.S. gearing up the Turks for?
6. JARABULUS De-mining: The Turks were digging up thier land mines in the border strip between Turkey and Syria near Jarabulus. That's the Syrian city that Turkey won't 'allow' the Syrian Kurds to retake from ISIS and part of the 'Kurds are not allowed to cross the Euphrates' red line from Erdogan. Turkey is afraid of the Kurds closing the ISIS escape route/Turkish supply routes between Azaz and Jarabulus. Azaz will fall to the Kurds in a couple of days. The Turks most likely plan on taking Jarabulus themselves. I'll leave it to the armor guys to explain why a nation suddenly decides to demine a little strip of their border in the middle of a war.
One would think NATO isn't so stupid to back Turkey when they cross into Syria, but they will. Russian will blow the crap out of the Turkish armor, and you know what comes next.
I sincerely hope you are wrong...
Psychopaths don't give up this easily,so he's probably spot on.
The timetable on WWIII has been moved up.
The Saker has an excellent summary on the details of Russian-Turkish conflict, should the Turkish military "invade Syria".
http://thesaker.is/week-seventeen-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-d...
As one might expect, a lot depends on the territorial depth of any incursion or occupation by Turkey. Still, the Saker (rightly) regards Erdogan as a loose cannon, and the Syrian situation as perilous.
btw Winston Churchill, I forget the details but it appears you were correct about financial SHTF in January 2016. Well done!
AUMF - I was under the impression that the AUMF that they are currently using to wreak havoc all over MENA authorizes military force against those that perpetrated, aided and abetted 9/11. What did Syria have to do with 9/11? What did ISIS have to do with 9/11? Its all illegal both domestically and under international law... - Anyways, this, I thought, was the supposed problem with the current state of affairs and why a new one is needed. (to make it all magically unillegal)
Except for a few ISIS stories on Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and numerous African nations almost nothing to be seen there. On the other hand, scary stories about mosquitoes are proliferating. I guess this is what is meant by the "news cycle" of bad event fatigue which triggers the next eye ball grabber. Now with the spy state so magnificently embedded it is possible to monitor peoples reaction to news "stories" to gauge if it is profitable to expand or continue with a story. At the early signs of diminishing interest a new horror story starts developing. Little is spent on connecting dots, only jumping from one dot to the next.
If the media doesn't report on it, is it really happening??
Yeah, the US shouldn't have built those bases on tropical coral reefs.
Wait a minute...
"Paper tiger's burn."
Yeah, but Chocolate Tigers rock!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8l3Po3UL8
Paper Tigers (by The Chameleons)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshqjaKR6Io
— S O U N D G A R D E N E R —
If Kerry would quit horsing around, he might make some progress!
Kerry looks so incomptent and if the idiots in D.C. give the wrong impression to Turkey's version of Hitler, then they will invade Syria triggering one of the largest wars in human history. I wish we had some more competent leadership so I wouldn't have to think about living without some of life's conveniences that we have now.
Hold that thought. You will be proven right because Horseface IS that incompetent, and our Dear Leader OBunghole is taking his orders from Jarrett and Soros. WWIII seems all but inevitable since the rabid MIC dog tied up out back of the White House wants to be fed and Barry is too afraid the pull the trigger to kill it.
With a face like his ... horsing around is the norm.
Kerry hates it when he walks into a room and someone yells, "Trigger warning!"
He always has a long face.
USSA giant, when facing a real opponent, has feet of clay
The inner core and the masses of the dot gov are totally corrupt, and as I have said before only believes in its next inflated paycheck stolen from the taxpayers. There is no courage there. After the revolution such of them as we need (not many) will gladly work for us at greatly reduced salaries, the rest will have to get real jobs in the productive private sector bringing useful products to market at a competitive price (which will be very entertaining to watch all by itself).
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
...and...
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Aye, there's the rub.
Exactly, let me tell you. We haven't fought a real war for decades. We are used to bullying smaller countries or countries wihtout "teeth". We know damn well that the Russians will give as good as they get if any war is sought by Washington. Remember tjhey have nukes, chemical weapons, biological weapons, scientists that are just as smart as ours, nuclear subs, space capability. We have stuff that they may not know about and they have stuff that we don't know about.
Just ask yourself if your an american, what city are you prepared to lose in retaliation for one of theres? Also they have the capability to not only EMP us but also cobalt salt their nukes. That is nuclear weapons that are salted with cobalt and when they go off the fallout stays highly radioactive for at least 5 years making it impossible for a group to stay in a secure fallout shelter for that long and make the area to damn hot for years.
All the Russians have to do is survive the next decade or so, while "the West" disintegrates... and the Russians are pretty good at surviving. In other words, time is not on the side of the United State of America; if the world is consumed in a nice game of Global Thermonuclear War, it will be because the America's rulers decide to initiate it.
No film at 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-CuJ9MBboE
One more Yeats please. I made this video.
What city am I prepared to "lose"? I can think of a few we'd be better off without. DC and NYC for example.
They will not take DC. They are perfectly content to let those morons drive the ussa into the dirt. Let your enemy keep digging by all means...
what city?
Does it have to be 1 city or can I make a wish list?
Latina lover says, "If the Amerikans could kick Russia out of Syria, they would have done it already. Instead, we now see the truth, that the USSA giant, when facing a real opponent, has feet of clay."
Russia isn't an opponent. They are an ally when it comes to ISIS, so why would you say something like that and why would 102 people give you a thumbs up?
Some one explain this to me. Why is it the American taxpayers DUTY to pay for anything in Syria?
I'm extraordinarily sincere in my request for an explanation. Why would 102 people consider Russia to be an opponent in Syria?
Who started the "Arab Spring"? Why did they start the "Arab Spring"? If you can't go from there I can't help you.
The simple version:
Well, first you should take a look at the past, present, and future oil and gas pipelines that the west and the ME has been trying to build for Europe. Saudi wanted to go through Syria but Assad said no way, in favor of a Shia plan from Iran. This was the beginning. Furthermore, the US is waging an Economic war with Russia. You should have known this before asking your question. The US wants Assad out. Russia want Assad to stay. That makes them opponents.
You did not answer my question and we won the "economic war" with Russia a long time ago.
I'm asking and you completely ignored my question instead substituting some bullshit in your own head.
Russia is fighting ISIS in Syria TRUE OR FUCKING FALSE!!!!
Since the answer is TRUE, then why would 102 fucking idiots say that we should go to war with them for being our ally in the ISIS debacle.
This is what I do know, there isn't an honest mother fucker on this cocksucking page that will answer me honestly without beating around the bush and answering my question directly.
You have been here for over a year and you are this clueless??
The US is not fighting ISIS. That is bullshit given to the uninformed.
US and it allies have not only created ISIS but also treated their wounded (Israel) supplied them with weapons and ammunition (US, Britain, Turkey), have given them shelter and safe place to retreat to (Turkey) and acted as their air force (US, Israel).
None of that information is secret. Some of it might be a little obfuscated (US dropping supplies by mistake right were ISIS happens to be).
Unfortunately, ISIS is our ally here and not the Russians. Russia should be our ally - that is where your disconnect is. Your question is based on your disconnect and embedded in your question is a strawman assertion.
Latina's point is not that we should be adversarial to Russia, but that since Russia has joined the war against our proxy forces (the so-called Free Syrian Army/ISIS/Al Nusra/and friends) the ussa/nato have backed off of supporting our proxys against Assad. Recall that removing Assad has been "the goal". The point is that the ussa is content to bomb/resupply who it will until someone formidable like Russia shows up - and then we are ready to negotiate where as before, killing was our "negotiation".
There is no one here outside of the MIC and some other psychopaths (in the ussa) who want war with Russia.
Our "friends" in Turkey/Saudi/Qatar/Israel would LOVE for our forces to come in and die for their geopolitical/economic goals as well.
US wants Assad out an so does ISIS. That makes ISIS our allies.
President George 1 warned about this. Do not take sides in the ancient rivalries of the old world.
Both The dim witted liberals and neo cunt servatives say the words of our founders are outdated.
Seems to me that GW1 farewell address was spot on. Smart guy, saw two hundred years ahead with 20 20 clarity.
Some truths are universal and eternal.
For example - don't rape your neighbour's daughter.
Fuck this shit!!! It's Super Bowl Sunday! The day for fat Americans to cheer a bunch of coddled millionaires playing a kids game. Eat, drink, watch and talk football. Have more of that pizza...the one with extra toppings of cheese and pepperoni and all that other stuff on top. Fuck the market! Fuck China and Russia! Fuck the price of oil! Pass me those chicken wings and another beer! Oh shit! Cam Newton just fumbled! There goes the point spread. Where did I put that fucking piece of pizza I was eating? Assholes should have kicked the field goal!
Don't tell me who's playing. I still haven't heard or seen.
Denver/Carolina. I asked others. It's easier that way, to avoid watching a single game all year. I don't miss it.
I'm still hoping to drop by Freddie's place.... maybe suck down a brewski or six, and cheer for Trayvon!
LOL
Denver won 24-10. I'm partial to Denver since I lived there for the first 37 years of my life.
not "foot ball".
it's proper name is "hand egg"
Nothing like listening to these mildly retarded sports personalities try to sound like geniuses.
Is Sharp still one of these? Maybe he can figure out that he needs to take the marbles out of his mouth before speaking.
They really should be tackling anyone or receiving any kind of fame ... Nobody ever thinks about the emotionals on guys on the team that didn't have enough time to equal the point script. It's unfair. They should give both sides the same participation award and donate it to green living forever Foundation run by corzine. And what with the timer... Should just play until all are happy and even.
I'll take the XL Supremo with cheese, sauce, more cheese, every processed meat in the bucket, cheese in the crust and little hot dogs meat glued to the outside of the crust. And 6 Victory Golden Monkeys to wash it all down. USA! USA! USA!
6!?! Golden Monkeys? Damn I thought 2 kicked like a mule.
No lie. At 9.5ABV if I drank 6 I would be seeing, well golden monkeys in triplicate.
Signed in to up-vote...made me lol, especially the "cheese in the crust and little hot dogs meat glued to the outside of the crust."
All too true.
Sounds like you're just jealous.
Those Yum Brands fuckers are nuts.
I bet it was a fat slob that down arrowed.
Paraphrasing Karl Marx, "Religion is the opiate of the masses", and thanks to American ingenuity and exceptionalism, we added football to the equation. Your welcome world.
Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S !
Since all our aid (read "hardware") ends up in ISIS' hands, maybe it is past time to cut off the FSA. Don't worry Democrats, you still have our domestic FSA that you can squander to. At least that is what I get from reading "aid workers" in this story.
Negotiate? Kerry couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. On the plus side, if you are right then that refugee flow should slow to a trickle. Putin for President?
"“You know, Putin, our arch enemy Putin, was actually trying to create a peace process in Syria. … We need to begin talking with Russia and with other countries. " Dr. Jill Stein for President?
To be led into frontline battle by that sheepfuck Marco Polio and Mama's Titty Baby Jebro Bushbaum. Use Hitlery Hildebeast as the hood ornament on their Humvee. If they choose, they can use the Neocons and Wall Street banksters as their human shields.
It's Marco! Rubio! from here on in.
Jeb won't be needing the ! any more.
So, "Jeb??" it is, then! :>D
"So Mr. Kerry, you won't fight Russia?" "Neigh" he said and tapped his foot on the floor two times...
Hoof.
fify
You guys making fun of the Secretariat of State again?
Somebody needs to rein Ketchup in before he bolts.
He's just not up to speed, but he will ketchup soon.
And it would probably be good to take a few jabs at Samantha Powers as well...
Standard Disclaimer: Well, okay, the entire U.S. State Department.
Don't forget dual shit-i-zen children too. Robert Kraft's wife (Patriots owner) said she would send her sons to fight for Isri-hell but not the USA. Bill Clinton on his temple tour after getting out of office said he would grab and rifle and be in a foxhole for ISri-Hell. Bill is a little See Eye Aye mole.
To be fair,that's not exactly what Myra Kraft said, plus it was in 2008. Eight years ago. She is now deceased. "how she would feel about one of her four sons moving to Israel and joining the army.I would go with him. I always wanted to live here. As for joining the army, over Vietnam, I would have had an issue,because I didn’t believe in it. The same goes for the war in Iraq. I don’t know why we’re there. I would hate to have one of my sons fighting there. Iran’s the problem, not Iraq. But, as far as fighting for Israel is concerned, there is no problem." She was opposed to the Vietnam War and Iraq War not opposed to one of her sons fighting for the US in general.
So she would not have a problem with her son killing Palestinian children to make more room for her people.
I said "her people" because traditionally jews in Europe did not see themselves as Germans or Danes or Swedes or Poles. Even if they lived in the country for generations, if you asked them what they were,they would reply "jew".
They refused to assimilate and that is really the root of their prosecution in Europe. This refusal to not assimilate also allowed them to view the native population without any sympathy. They looked at them as " they" and not "we".
Makes it a lot easier to be merciless in your business dealings. Easier to screw people over. ...but these people remember things and all those incidents get passed into collective memory.
Let her send her son. The IDF did not fare very well in Lebanon in 2000 and 2006 against Hezbollah.
See Eye Aye man Robert Baer and writer Norman Finkelstein both said Isri-hell lost in 2000 and 2006.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ
Finkelstein correctly points out that people should support people defending their countries from invaders.
Robert Baer_Iran has already defeated Israel twicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD6YR8lQq40
The Syrian people including Christians were being murdered by the headchoppers backed by the USA, Qatar, Turkey, Saudis, Isri-hell and others. The Russians, Iran and Hezbollah came in to stop the genocide. For that, I will always respect them. No one else helped especially the USA.
Latina Lover,
War breeds WAR.
Poor choice.
s. or not
I get your point. However, if the so called elite had to sacrifice their children, there would be no wars.
Good point. Skin in the game principle.
Doh! Iran wants their $billions for oil paid in Euro's. What are they asking for?
They are asking for the Saddam Treatment. He tried that move, and look what happened to him.
The truth about the conflict with Russia >> http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-1Gm
I share you thought's Latina. Back in the old days, one argument used against the Pro War people during Vietnam was to ask them if their kids were in Nam, or even in the military. It was even easier to shut these pro war chicken hawks up, if you were either a veteran, in the military, or had kids over there.
George Bush was a big pro war man on campus when he was in college, he shut up when the shadow of the draft hung over him. Though he found his bolt hole in the Texas Air National Guard.
what a coincidence. I hear his VP pulled a few tricks too.
Avoiding battle is the perfect precursor for attacking your own people.
Hillary's child would kill two "birds" with one stone
Russia could be dispatched in a couple weeks at most. It's not even a superpower and has a military budget a tiny fraction of America's. Rookies through and through.
Their budget is small because they concentrate on defensive weapons systems and what works. Not what puts taxpayer money into the pockets of the those suits on K street and in MIC.
You also forget that they have the capability to turn any continent into a nuclear wasteland.
You might want to go back to Fox News where the sheep believe your type of nonsense... or stick around and you might actually learn something.
...but I will caution you - write stupid shit and people here will tear you a new asshole and do so from an a position of informational superiority.
Give Kerry a swift boat and a full tank of gas.........
we will be right behind you John.
"The USSA should go to war with Russia. Start by drafting the neocon/neoliberals children and all the chickenhawks screaming for war!"
I nominate the Honorable Senator from Arizona who stayed at the Hanoi Hilton sipping swamp water beer.
First draft the graduating class of Choate and Phillips Exeter.
Why stop there? Add St. Pauls. Deerfield. Hotchkiss. Groton. The list is a LONG one.
Back in the day. Whole graduating classes from those schools signed-up to go to war. Literally "the best and brightest" from "American aristocracy". There are plaques at those schools today --with moving versus -- memorials to those fallen young men. Right or wrong -- those families lost their best too. Which is why they've been so easily displaced in the halls of power.
These days the graduates -- very few from old American aristocracy -- get their ticket punched and are on to ripping-off humanity from some investment bank on Wall Street. Nah. The J-tribe doesn't send their blood and treasure to die. They send YOURS.
Quit "nation building". You don't have to sell anything to the public. Bring the troops home. Why aren't military families mad as hell that their sons and daughters are in harms way over some bullshit story about "Syria and ISIS"??
"Why aren't military families mad as hell that their sons and daughters are in harms way over some bullshit story about "Syria and ISIS"??"
Because we have a volunteer army. It is made up of the sections of society who have no better option in life than to join the military. It is now made up of ghetto blacks and poor white trash.
They believe all the flag-waving bullshit that is fed to them and want to sacrifice thenselves and their children for Murika.
Watch the movie "Idiocracy". It's here.
The funny thing is, a lot of them believed that when they signed up, but don't believe it now. Remember when we were going to bomb Syria and a bunch of them posted pictures of themselves holding signs basically stating that they didn't want to be Al Quaeda's air force? IMO, our military is just as divided as our populace.
the people that sign up violate one of the natural laws and are followers. they can't differentate morality of killing on orders vs is killing another human wrong. they are very weak humans.
And your a piece of shit, see how easy it is to judge blindly.
"And your a piece of shit, see how easy it is to judge blindly.
Obviously a state boot kicking bible flapping demon worshipping christian-white trashian.
The difference between Nordics and whites.....is the difference between blacks and niggers.
I see that now.
That is why Germany had to be crushed.
So the slavic orcs could come squat, letting in the brown and black trash from merkel. Thats why anglo-zionists hate ze Germans.
Go fuck yourself.
The Slavs are not allowing this shit to polute their nations and if it was not for the Slavs fighting Mongols and Ottomans throughout the centuries, rest of Europe would be under Sharia law right now.
How many wars have the Russians fought with the Ottoman Empire?
How many times did the Serbs stop them?
What would have happened to Vienna if Poland did not come to the rescue?
Slavs have fought them but Germans, Scandinavians, English and the French invite them in... Then you stand like a bunch of fucking neutered goats while they rape and beat your women and children. Fuck you ..you little faggot.
Read how Slavs deal with this shit. These "refugees" tried that same shit in Russia. They got an ass kicking, arrest and a hospital visit.....and that was without having already shit all over the country... I guarantee you next time they will be going to the morgue...or as feed to a pig farm..
but you are a little faggot and unable to do what men do so you try to blame someone else.. go learn to take a Muslim dick up your ass, you will be serving them real soon.
There's an old timer that sits out in front of Tractor Supply that collects donations for wounded vets. I usually fling in a buck or two and say I want them all to come home and he always goes crazy in agreement. Next time I'm going to tell him I want them to come home *today*, not when they're done doing whatever they're doing to see what he says.
******* shameless copy from elsewhere
30 minutes of chaos: Witness details events of Finicum shootinghttp://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/30_minutes_of_chaos_wi...
(shooting at them when they stopped the first time?)
(shot in the pockets by magic Tom Clancy bullets that leave no marks?)
There is a lot of interesting stuff in this article, followed by >3300 comments from people delighted that Finecum is dead that can't wait for the rest of them to be killed
I'm not sure about that....
As much as I want to wholeheartedly agree with you, my experience suggests reality is considerably more nuanced.
I've visited Camp Pendleton and socialized with the enlisted personnel there numerous times, and yes, "The Corps is the best opportunity they can hope for," cliche was true for many / most of them. But fundamentally they were good people. Sling whatever arrows you want... the enlisted are typically simple, poorly educated, untraveled, rough around the edges folks. But at the core most are good people who are trying to make something better of themselves.
I absolutely cannot begrudge them that.
Unfortunately things go off the rails when the following toxic cocktail is made:
1. Add four parts moneyed interests at places like BA, GD, LMT, RTN and countless private outfits
2. Add six parts a corrupted-beyond-fixing representative republic in which money = free speech, and career elected officials have more in common with crack whores than with their constituencies
3. Add two parts a highly refined military institution that has perfected turning simple people into unquestioning automatons
4. Add one part a shitty economy that has gutted the formerly great and expansive Middle
Fuck.. we're fucked.
>>>the enlisted are typically simple, poorly educated, untraveled, rough around the edges folks. But at the core most are good people who are trying to make something better of themselves.
I agree (my son was USMC). But the enlisted guys are not the problem.
The sad thing is that the military, or just getting some sort of government job, is essentially the only decent option these guys have. Very few have the savvy to start a successful business, and their position in the corporate world is basically "going nowhere", while the cream flows to the financial class.
For years and years these guys made great factory and manufacture employees. They used to be the lower and middle middle class, the blue collar worker, then the .gov fucked them with free global trade, and here we are today.
Idiocracy is a prophetic movie no doubt. But as you say, we're just about here
Can we get an accounting of the $ spent on regime change in Syria. How many US tax dollars were spent/lives lost fomenting war and terror in Syria?
i'll guess between 500 billion and 1 trillion. i'm no fan of goob projects, my guess is we could have high speed light rail coast to coast with that money and have employeed thousands with job. sourced the materials domestic and start turning the ship, hmmm, what would trump do? serious question...
Highspeed rail would be fantastic. But instead why don't we spend the money on cleaning up leaking nuclear power plants. Fixing infrastructure in places like flint michigan. Curing Cancer. Stopping the natural gas leak in L.A. (remember 10% of people in cali are fruits and nuts, but the other 90% are able to grow nearly any type of food, year round)
Or atleast abolish the domesitc goons with guns that make people pay for stuff that is quite literally killing them.
Yes...all of the above. The $6T the War Department has spent "finghting for our freedom" since 9/11 would have gone a long way if it was invested here at home.
“Cutting the military budget is something that we can do right now,” Stein told me, “but we want to be clear that we are putting an end to wars for oil – period. And that is part of our core policy of a Green New Deal which creates an emergency program, establishing twenty million living wage jobs, full-time jobs, to green the economy, our energy, food, and transportation systems, building critical infrastructure, restoring ecosystems, etc..." - Dr. Jill Stein.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/01/jill-steins-platform-viable-berni...
Skip the curing cancer bullshit...
Standard Disclaimer: American Cancer Society - founded May 23, 1913. It's been over a hundred fucking years. Hey, here's a thought, why don't we just get FedGov to declare war on it? That should stretch it out for another 100 years.
It always irritates the living crap out of me when a person things the solution to each and every problem is to throw more money at it.
Point taken. But at the root of it money=pay people to work on stuff. Donations to the american cancer society may be used to avoid taxation and are quasi volentary, but taxation for wars is not.
Let me put this another way. Dick Cheney has a personal 501c3 where you can donate to avoid taxes to find ways the US government should spend compulsory tax money to fight "terrorism." If the american cancer society funds a single study with a single honest researcher to make a single step of progress twords a cure, it is infinitely better than neo-con bullshit.
American Cancer Society trying to stop cancer would be like the MIC trying to stop war. It's their business. You think they'd hae a business if cancer (or war) went away?
Grow up mate.
You can cut your cancer risk to nearly zero if you stop gorging on carbs, cigs, alcohol and drugs. A few farmers would still get it from the pesticide exposure, and a few factory workers from the chemicals.
There -- no more need for the american cancer society of people who do no actuall good, but love to profit from someone else's misery.
I believe there is a clause in there which states if they every find a cure for cancer that the ACS would be dissolved immediatly... but who wants to kill a 330billion dollar a year business? I will never donate a dollar to those crooked fucks.
"Highspeed rail would be fantastic. But instead why don't we spend the money on cleaning up leaking nuclear power plants. Fixing infrastructure in places like flint michigan. Curing Cancer."
Because there is no huge profit to be made versus selling arms and sustaining wars overseas.
Thank you for your inquiry, Citizen. There is a dedicated public servant working dilligently on your inquiry at this very moment (unfortunately for you, he works for the NSA).