Ron Paul Slams Government Plan For "Mandatory Depresssion Screening" Of All Americans

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

The United States Preventive Services Task Force recently recommended mandatory depression screening for all Americans. The task force wants to force health insurance companies to pay for the screening. Basic economics, as well as the Obamacare disaster, should have shown this task force that government health insurance mandates harm Americans.

Government health insurance mandates raise the price of health insurance. Consumers will respond to this increase by either choosing to not carry health insurance or by reducing their consumption of other goods and services. Imposing new health insurance mandates will thus make consumers, many of whom are already suffering from Obamacare’s costly mandates, worse off by forcing them to deviate from their preferred consumption patterns.

Mandatory depression screening will not just raise insurance costs. In order to ensure that the screening mandate is being properly implemented, the government will need to create a database containing the results of the screenings. Those anti-gun politicians who want to forbid anyone labeled “mentally ill” from owning a firearm will no doubt want to use this database as a tool to deprive individuals of their Second Amendment rights.

If the preventive task force has its way, Americans could lose their Second Amendment, and possibly other, rights simply because they happened to undergo their mandatory depression screening when they were coping with a loved one’s passing or a divorce, or simply having a bad day. As anyone who has been mistakenly placed on the terrorist watch list can attest, it is very difficult to get off a government database even when the government clearly is in error. Thus, anyone mistakenly labeled as depressed will have to spend a great deal of time and money in what may be a futile attempt to get his rights back.

Mandatory depression screening will endanger people’s health by increasing the use of psychotropic drugs. These drugs often have dangerous side effects. Their use has even been linked to suicide. The fact that almost every mass shooter was on psychotropic drugs is another good reason to oppose any policy that will increase reliance on these medicines.

The Preventive Services Task Force’s mandatory depression screening mandate is based on the fallacy that diagnosing mental health problems is analogous to diagnosing cancer or diabetes. Even mental health professionals acknowledge that there is a great deal of subjectivity in mental health diagnosis.

Consider that until 1973 homosexuality was considered a mental disorder by the American Psychiatric Association. Today, some mental health professionals think that those who believe in limited government, free-market economics, or traditional values suffer from mental disorders. If mandatory depression screening becomes a reality, it is likely this mental health screening will be expanded to cover screening for other mental illnesses. This could result in anyone with an unpopular political belief or lifestyle choice being labeled as “mentally ill.”

Even if mandatory health screening could be implementing without increasing costs or threatening liberty it would still be a bad idea. Government health care mandates undermine the basic principles of a free society. If it is legitimate for government to tell us what types of health care we must receive, then it is also legitimate for the government to tell us what to eat, when to exercise, and even how to raise our children.

To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, a tyranny imposed for our own good is the worst form of tyranny because it is a tyranny without limits. All who love liberty must therefore oppose mandatory depression screening, or any other health care mandate.

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jm's picture

This is nothing but a form of gun control.

Lynx Dogood's picture

Much more than that, gun control is just the start. Every one gets labeled, especially if you might not agree with goverment policies, or have a religious belief that is not approved.

jm's picture

It's about gun control. They already ask soldiers honorably discharged if they have ever been depressed or if they ever have nightmares about Iraq or Afghanistan. If they say yes, they are put on a list of potentially disturbed individuals. This is just the next step.

I'm no conspiracy nut by any stretch, but it is easy to put two and two together about the intent of this after having a tinkerbell in the White House for the last 7+ years. 

knukles's picture

Yep.  Fail the depression screening test (like PC... who decides what is or is not) on SSRI's, served in the military, wrote a passage on ZH, has a record (speeding ticket), registered other than Democratic, watched porn, played with themselves, do not fly list, know associate of a Tea Party member and Voila! you're in Hillary's Summer Camp.

Manthong's picture

“I'm no conspiracy nut by any stretch”

I might suggest you do a little homework and reconsider that perspective.

Let me get you started… 

The Anglo-American Establishment: From Rhodes to Cliveden, 1949 

 

Mr. Ed's picture

"This could result in anyone with an unpopular political belief or lifestyle choice being labeled as 'mentally ill.""

Ha!

Try this on for size:  someone in the bowels of the government, or a bureaucrat with a grudge decides they REALLY don't like you...

So, what to do?  Someone in said gov "suicides" you, and the story that comes out to the public is:  it was a tragic suicide... this person was severely depressed ...we know this from the mandatory depression screening that was given just a couple weeks ago!

Oh, what a shame!

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Its a BRAVE NEW WORLD.

Mandatory screening, and then if you refuse to go to the screening, or refuse to take the opiates, there will be another label applied to you.

Diagnozed crazy.  Off his meds. 

"Angry at the government" complex.

"Believes markets are rigged by bankers" fixation. 

"Wants to tell everyone to buy gold" ideation.

Bastiat's picture

Just answer every question in the evalution interview:  "FUCK YEAH!!" 

What do you see in this inkblot?  "A unicorn shitting skittles--abundance!  Free goodies for everyone!  I just makes be feel so content and secure;" or, "I see my daddy telling me I'm a good boy;"  "I see our glorious leader saving the world'"  "this looks like people hugging."   "I see guns turning into flowers."

Manthong's picture

 

jm… 

And this…

Full text of "Creature From Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffin"

Go right to page 282

jm's picture

I could argue you with you about the institutional need for a lender of last resort to maintain financial stability, but I can hardly pick myself off the floor after today's carnage.

Bagehot knew how to do it, the Fed not so much.

Haywood Jablowme's picture

Hey goobermint, how about DEEEEEEZZZZZZ NNNUUUUUTTTTZZZZ!

jeff montanye's picture

the current state of art/science in the treatment of depression is barely better than alchemy: the practitioners in most cases don't know why the drugs work, can't directly measure the drugs' efficacy in the patient, and acknowledge many side effects or interactions as bad or worse than the original diseases.  the actual practice is try something and see what happens.  each patient is a trial experiment.  this stuff is not like insulin, synthroid or even antibiotics.

and if one wishes to stop the medicines, many have hideous withdrawal symptoms and long term disabilities associated with them.

wonderful consequences have sometimes occurred via psychiatric drugs but the same could be said of witch doctors and their herbs.  imo we are not at the level of expertise to justify mandatory testing and (isn't it likely?) mandatory treatment.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) jeff montanye Feb 9, 2016 6:52 AM

They want to call you mentally ill so you will be barred from owning a gun.

My Obamacare doc asked me if I was gay over and over again, and my husband.

Why? The doc himself is gay, they are the ones who say this is normal.

Then he tried to send me to a shrink because I smoke cigs.

It is all about cataloging.

After Kaiser kicked me off for no reason, never even billed me because I asked how

my two friends who died of cancer with less than one month diagnosis could happen as cancer

is a wasting away disease, plus  I refused a flu shot.

We are in way more trouble than we know.

DownWithYogaPants's picture

Dear Jeff

Medicine and in particular psychology is no where near as effective as alchemy.  Alchemy actually resulted in mankind learning some stuff.

As opposed to med/psych complex just being a huge parasite in a system of parasites.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Soviet reloaded in its 2.0 version. Bigger, stronger and better - American proud made!

LC103's picture

The actual testing is purely for show/profit.

Test results very easy: All gentiles are mentally ill. Everybody else isn't.

jeff montanye's picture

that is a dirty lie.  the anti-zionist jews are mentally ill too (self loathing) and the zionist christians (are there any others?  hindus maybe?) are given a temporary pass and kept under observation.

shovelhead's picture

I see you have been for an evaluation before.

I always draw the cabin in the valley surrounded by happy little trees.

They liked that one. They let me out early.

Manthong's picture

this is how to do the psych screening …    :- )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NzFJxX8yoY

 

Tall Tom's picture

What do you see in this inkblot?

 

That is funny. I just see a fucking inkblot.

 

I must be absolutely out of my rabid ass mind to see what is there instead of wildly imagining that which is not.

peddling-fiction's picture

@Herd Redirection

You probably meant the Brave New World sarcastically.

I like your post, but I believe we live in a chicken shit cowardly world.

Just wanted to say it so it sinks in.

Hopefully people start to do something about it.

 

shovelhead's picture

I am.

I tell people they're chickenshit. It makes me feel I'm doing something useful and I feel better about myself.

peddling-fiction's picture

Why don´t you actually stand up for something and grow some real balls?

Tall Tom's picture

Well I will tell it to YOUR FACE, shovelhead.

 

You know my address.

 

Only one ZHer has ever showed up on my doorstep...ONE.

 

You HIDE under anonymity.

 

I do not.

 

And if you do not believe that I am outspoken...I enjoyed blowing the cover of the FBI agents hanging around here during the past year.

 

The surveilance of that fuckin' Marijuana Dispesary,along with the fuckin' Pawn Shop, as well as myself, was outrageous.

 

I refuse to live in fear...except...There is only one alive who has ever defeated me...Full disclosure.

 

Now some battles were lost but the struggle is not over with that one. Yeah. I hate looking in the mirror.

peddling-fiction's picture

@Tall Tom

High five.

We need to shine a light on these cock-a-roaches (Tony Montana style) and expose these cowards.

No fear.

God is with us and not them.

OldPhart's picture

You're too far away to actually back your ass.

But I'm with you spiritually (for what that shit is worth).

I've had my own personal encounter with the FBI and I've adopted what seems to be your "fuck you" attitude.

The drug dealer two doors down had the deputies ready to invade my house before they realized they had the wrong address.

FBI guy showed up after posting the rhetorical question of who should we shoot first, politicians or banksters.

NSA guy showed up in MSChat in 2005 when I said, to my son in Afghanistan, we should be dropping nukes every ten miles from Syria to Russia.  Son still dosen't believe me about the scolding I got from that weenie over 'this format is unsecured and monitored by the entire world."

Tall Tom, you've got my respect, but I'm just too far to back you personally.

The words "Do you need a second?" have left my mouth exactly three times so far in my life.  You'd be my fourth, except for the distance.

{edit}

The one that has defeated me has been my partner since 2/14/79.  I submit to her rule.

Max Cynical's picture

Well, if this screening process is as effective as it is for the rigorous refugee vetting process, we have nothing to worry about.

Are you a terrorist? No.

Are you depressed? No.

Ms No's picture

"Wall Street and the Bulshevik Revolution" and "Wall Street and the rise of Hitler" by Antony Sutton are good ones too. 

No going back up the rabbit hole after that.  He verifies with .gov documentation.  It is pretty scary looking at current events in that context as well.  There are a lot of videos with his lectures and interviews on youtube also.

John Perkins new book "The new confessions of an economic hit man" is released tomorrow also. 

Libertati Aut Ad Mortem's picture
Libertati Aut Ad Mortem (not verified) Manthong Feb 8, 2016 10:57 PM

 

The United States is a proxy Zionist financial feudal state and the American people its indentured serfs.   That is the reason the debt has increased by $9 trillion in the last seven years.  Bernanke, Greenspan, Yellen, and dual citizen Stanley Fischer are all Jews while Jacob Lew, another Jew, runs the Treasury. US foreign policy and much of domestic policy, such as the 9-11 and Sandy Hook charades, are run directly out of the Council on Foreign Relations, the headquarters for the New World Order. Their leaders, not just including Kissinger the Jew, are Haass, Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, and Kristol who love nothing more than sending patriotic Midwestern and southern Americans to fight and die for their proxy state in the Middle East Israel as part of the Oded Yinon plan.  For Kissinger said, “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” All of the media, Hollywood, and the major banks are Jewish owned including but not exclusive to Blankfein at Goldman Sachs and Jamie Dimon at JP Morgan.  And who were Obama's advisors? David Axelrod, dual citizen Rahm Immanuel, David Pfouffe, just to mention a few. And the naive believe Obama is Muslim. He is not. He is a Marxist Jew by virtue of his mother and the grandparents who raised him. Marxist Judaism is just another name for crony capitalism socialism where are the wealth in concentrated in the hands of the Jews. The proof is in the debt and money they have stolen from the American people over the last 7 years.  Americans are Indentured Servant Financial SLAVES in their own country to this Jewish cabal.  Only a Jacobin revolution can bring freedom back to the American people.  Arrest this cabal and mete out the appropriate punishment.

 

https://research.stlouisfed.or...

And the $2.5 trillion big payoff:

https://research.stlouisfed.or...

 

Demdere's picture

I was watching a 9/11 video yesterday, ?reporter who interviewed everyone while she was at the Naval Post-graduate center?, who mentioned that the CIA woman blowing the whistle on dealing with the Iraqis while 9/11 approached had said the Pentagon's lost $ ($2.3T announced lost by Rumsfeld and Dov ? on 9/10) was actually $9T and went to Israel.

I have never seen that anywhere else, and of course no confirmation, but $2.3T is a lot of $ to lose, seems to me.  That alone is a sign of huge corruption in the MIC.

Also, her talk emphasized the US special operations command, or some such, reporting directly to Cheney, as a likely source of people doing the actual 9/11 operations.  Of course, we know Mossad was also involved, 'dancing Israelis' and other links.

We know we have assassins working for the propagandists in all this, there have been too many shooting deaths of people investigating 9/11, etc.

Massive federal psyops : The Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc. hoax killings (definitely nobody was killed in those 2 cases, I think also Oregon tho I haven't dug into that enough) and (probably, but hard to be sure of much of anything in those cases) SCarolina church and San Bernardino killings.  Giffords in Tuscon is very ambiguous : either they killed a federal judge and got Sheriff Mack to go along with it, or moved him into a witness protection program and ditto.

This is very late in the game of empire, it seems to me.

peddling-fiction's picture

Posted 2000 times on ZH. /epic shrink pre-screening fail

LOL

nmewn's picture

Too true.

How is one supposed to answer that question? The next thing in five years will be, if they answer no (they are never depressed) they'll be labeled as insensitive, unfeeling psycho's.

The upside might be more government employee automation/robots. No more surly DMV & Postal employees going off the deep end on real flesh & blood people.

Hey! If its good enough for the private sector in cost savings just think what it could do for the public sector ;-)

jm's picture

It's pretty common knowledge at this point that your "exit interview" from the military has to walk a fine line between remorse and rejoicing. There is actually cheat sheet!

 

nmewn's picture

So I hear...lol.

I've told this one before but it bears repeating, I was given a "psych test"once and one question kept being asked (surrounded by 600 other questions) over & over..."Do you ever feel like you're being followed?" 

The last time they asked it, I answered yes instead of no, smiled and gave them that look.

I guess I passed ;-)

jm's picture

Q "Are you disturbed about your actions in Iraq and Afghanistan?"

A "Only that you sent me here in the first place."

 

Ms No's picture

Wrong answer!

You better settle down with that or you may end up with a state sanctioned lobotomy and end up like that one Kennedy girl.

nmewn's picture

Answering truthfully is not an acceptable answer ;-)

peddling-fiction's picture

Only by being Politically Correct will you ace the exams.

Iam_Silverman's picture

"I was given a "psych test"once and one question kept being asked (surrounded by 600 other questions)"

The MMPI?  I have to take one as a part of security re-screening every five years.  What a hoot....

nmewn's picture

Naw, this was way back in the days of The Seed, when "government intervention" into everyones life was all the rage and they were trying to make happy little hamsters out of everyone.

They failed MY test as an owner ;-)

OldPhart's picture

Back in 78. Marines.

I did amazingly well in morse code and a lot of other things.

Marine boot..PFC due to college.

"Do you ever feel bad about yourself?"  "Only when the Gunny gets on my ass."

shovelhead's picture

I lied like a mother to get a job when I was 17. I told them I was 19 with a year of college because I really needed the money.

I got the job and now I've got to be screened by the Insurance Co. to get a $100,000 bond because the co. sold very expensive medical equiptment. Oops. They never mentioned that. It was a lousy warehouse job...Jeez. I'm screwed.

Ok. Monday comes and I meet this really weird guy with a fly watching eyeball rolling around at random. It was like a sit-com setup with the psychologist who looks like a crazed axe murderer. So now I'm answering a million questions by Marty Feldman and trying like hell not to stare at the spastic eyeball.

An hour later I get told to wait in the lunchroom. I'm figuring to make a run for it because they tell you it's a crime to make false statements to an insurance co. and they always prosecute for deterrence. I'm shitting bricks but I got this far I figure I can beat it out the door if it all goes tits up.

The nice guy boss comes in and congratulates me on passing the test and my new job. Now he indroduces me to my boss in the warehouse. 6'-4", a skinny as a rail biker with hair 3/4 's down his back with a bushy beard to his sternum. Quite possibly the ugliest human in captivity. He seems unimpressed with his new hand.

"Start him off easy Ron, see how he works."

"He'll work, Andy, or he'll die trying..."

Yeah, great. I'm gonna love this job.

3 months later we got a bonus and our picture in the company newsletter for being the #1 warehouse with line items shipped in the nation.

Ron even let me take his 47 Knucklehead for a spin which started a love affair with Harleys thats still going on.

Proof that telling the truth is highly overrated.

DownWithYogaPants's picture

Dear Shovelspoons:

"Fly watching eyeballs" --- Classic!  That's a keeper!

Tall Tom's picture

The 600 other questions were just a series of 60 questions being asked in different ways.

 

You just did not see the pattern of the other 59.

 

Inconsistencies are tallied into the "Lie Score". This score supposedly reveals the reliability of the testing results.

 

There is a book titled,"The Organization Man", William Whyte, which reveals what the "Personality Profile" is all about and how to answer the questions in order to garner employment in Corporate America..

 

http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/toc/13785.html

 

I wish that I could find a free download for you as it it an EXTREMELY IMPORTANT VOLUME, I just spent 45 minutes searching.

 

However your fixation in regards to the "Paranoid Series" does reveal something about you.. You are concerned with that aspect for some reason. They read that in your Body Language. That is the reason why they pressed the issue.

nmewn's picture

Well, I don't think they knew I was toying around with them. Sometimes what they think they know is not actually what they really know or think to be true.

But its an interesting subject I'd like to return to after work ;-)

Demdere's picture

It is the other side of the false flag operations like the Sandy Hook and Aurora hoax killings and the S Caroline Church real (I think) killings.  The post-op propaganda blitz always includes both gun control and mental health themes.

Those themes reinforce each other, are supported by GC and mental health professionals.  For our own good, of course.

silverer's picture

Gun control first, total control afterwards.

Al Tinfoil's picture

The Soviet union used to put dissenters into mental hospitals until their attitudes improved.  

Joseph McCarthy used the House Un-American Activities Committee to hunt down anyone suspected of Communist Sympathies in the 1950s and got them blacklisted from employment. 

Brave New World revisited.  

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Lynx Dogood Feb 9, 2016 6:54 AM

Mostly it is if you are white, we are in the way.

They have no problem with black and Hispanic Christians.

DisasterCapitalist's picture

Its WAY more than that. Why on earth would ANYONE trust their medical data, and especially their mental health info, with ANY govt?  Collapse cannot happen soon enough for me.