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Why Trump Thinks Unemployment Is 42%

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During his victory speech last night in the New Hampshire Republican primary, Donald Trump exposed what everyone knows but doesnit dare admit: the "phony" unemployment numbers that Obama continues to crow about and The Fed is so focused on....

"Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment. The number's probably 28%, 29%, as high as 35%, in fact, I even heard recently 42%,"

How does he justify such large estimates? Simple...

"If we had 5% unemployment, do you think we'd have these gatherings?"

Tough to argue with that - just as Hillary and Jeb...

 

Source: RealClearPolitics

 

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Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:17 | 7167508 Panic Mode
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I like him. What you see is what you get. Full package. Unlike others wear in sheep skins.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:33 | 7167579 nuubee
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Yes, I agree that I like him for that reason. I just wish I saw more in terms of actual finger-pointing and plans for rolling back legislation.

Trump doesn't speak to those things, which either means he knows picking a plan can only hurt his chances, or he doesn't have a plan yet.

 

Also, what good is 5% unemployment when everyone's serving drinks?

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:37 | 7167617 bbq on whitehou...
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Trump is a product of his time and experience, if Tump discoved Zh in his 20's he would not be running for president today.
People are more then their genes but less then their knowlege.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:46 | 7167671 eforce
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A few possible outcomes...

A) Trump is legit and America is meant to be doomed...expect an assassination, WW3 and/or engineered economic collapse.

B) Trump is legit and America is meant to reboot...means Europe is the target (removal of the monarchies).

C) Trump isn't legit...expect him to act like a dictator, America being his 5th bankruptcy.

D) Trump isn't legit...starts WW3.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:51 | 7167680 nope-1004
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A)

 

I've said it before, since he isn't dependent on the Wall Street lobby, he will run things the way he wants, not the way Wall Street wants.  That makes him a target for the same type of ... cough .... cough ....  random assassinations that have happened in the past (Kennedy, Rabin, King, Reagan almost) just to name a few.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:35 | 7167931 AssFire
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Unemployment numbers don't include those incarcerated. We lead the world there- Amerikan Exceptionalism!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:00 | 7168062 Handful of Dust
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I like The Trumpster. I really like him.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:27 | 7168155 erkme73
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"We're gonna knock the hell out of ISIS"... So disappointing to hear him say that.  It proves he DOESN'T get it.  

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:28 | 7168164 BaBaBouy
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TRUMP Gets In, And Hillery Gets Pardonned By The O'Bummah...
Does BERNIE Really think he can get in, Constantly using the COMMUNIST Salute In The USA?????????????

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:39 | 7168220 BaBaBouy
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DONALD, Just Please don't do any hands-on Home Renovating using "Nail Gunz" Pleasseee...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:45 | 7168254 SILVERGEDDON
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This - is a Morgan Freeman moment.

" He'es right, you know............... "

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:20 | 7168397 I MISS KUDLOW
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no way trump never gets in nor does he want to,,,,,,,he is out there representing the billionaire class telling the former white middle class what it want to hear,,,,,this is all by design,,,,,,utililites,,,,tlt and fractional gold are blowing out,,,,,,,The Kyle Bass moment is upon us,,,,,,,after which Joe Biden or someone else will be coming off the bench,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no way trump is president, nor sanders nor hillary,,,,,,its all a skit,,,,,

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:24 | 7168422 I MISS KUDLOW
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Trumps retiring on an island theres a better chance Ivanka becomes president in 2019 once we it the 8 years business cycle bottom on year 80 on debt cycle, u know that 80 year thing and becomes first women president

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:33 | 7168441 I MISS KUDLOW
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I also would bet mr yellen will be replaced by Larry Summers once this japan thing goes down,,,,gotta happen "investing in gold is betting on the idiocy of presidential cycle" J Kyle Bass,,,,,,this has gottta be it,  now or never china comes back next week,,,,,

 

 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:35 | 7168483 I MISS KUDLOW
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as far as jobs and unemployment,,,,,what happened to linkedin stock late last week,,,,,GULP,,,,,does that mean zero jobs coming or all govt jobs coming or is that the end of linkedin another almost worthless producing stock like facebook, twitter etc

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:20 | 7168605 Shocker
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He might be correct

Layoff List: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com

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Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:35 | 7168655 Chris Dakota
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Tear down the whole system...the table is tilted, the game is rigged.
The citadel surrounded by wall and moat, as long as those outside think
that if they work hard enough they too have the possibility of  entering one day or their children do, therefore  they are invested in it's existence.

Once they realize there is really no way for them to ever enter the citadel they
become the barbarians at the gate.

Mid April this begins.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 02:23 | 7169552 The9thDoctor
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If we actually have 42% unemployment, than we are halfway to my goal of FULL unemployment.

I know I am a minority on Zero Hedge on this view, but I want everything automated and currency abolished.  After reading Bob Black's "Abolition of Work" and watching Zeitgeist's "resource based economy" I want unemployment as high as possible.

I've wasted many years of my life in dead end thankless Mcjobs, and I worked for employers who made Orwell's 1984 look like child's play.  Government tyranny concerns me, but nothing compared to the dictatorship that corporations impose on their employees.

Now that I have "sold out" to the white collar world, my views have evolved from extreme left wing to more libertarian.  My goal is for all dead end Mcjobs to be automated, because no one should have to go through that hell.  I'd rather see someone waste their life on drugs, or video games, or even adult entertainnment, than waste it on a McJob.  It's sick to see people bust ass for 8 hours a day for piss poor wages to make someone else cashflow.  I love that scene in Fight Club where Tyler Durden sticks the revolver to Raymond K Hessel's head asking him what he wanted to be.

I say raise the minimum wage to absurdly high levels so that way big business is forced to automate.  Then introduce a "basic income" for everyone to have funds to purchase automated-made goods and services.  I want people to spend more time with their friends and families, and to have creative pursuits, instead of wasting 2,000+ hours a year (not including the commute and clocking out for lunch breaks) on these shitty ass jobs that this service economy offers.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 06:12 | 7169823 Memedada
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Good/intelligent post.

I’m myself a libertarian. But I also see myself as leftwing (=against illegitimate authority – being private and/or public).

The US-version of libertarianism (= the corporate version/the hijacked version/the propaganda version/the controlled opposition version) is invented by big business: http://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda

Real libertarianism:

Unfortunately, in the United States the term “libertarian” has become, since the 1970s, associated with the right-wing, i.e., supporters of “free-market” capitalism. That defenders of the hierarchy associated with private property seek to associate the term “libertarian” for their authoritarian system is both unfortunate and somewhat unbelievable to any genuine libertarian. Equally unfortunately, thanks to the power of money and the relative small size of the anarchist movement in America, this appropriation of the term has become, to a large extent, the default meaning there. Somewhat ironically, this results in some right-wing “libertarians” complaining that we genuine libertarians have “stolen” their name in order to associate our socialist ideas with it!”

-       - http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/150-years-of-libertarian

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 07:18 | 7169899 doctor10
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that's a great post D9-

the guys you rely on to make that all happen, however, see the rest of us as farm animals

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 17:33 | 7172997 zippedydoodah
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Hi there doctor10, can I introduce you to the 9th Doctor?

Regards from zippedyday ;O)

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 16:20 | 7172634 True Blue
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-then You pay for it.

TANSTAAFL -There Ain't No Such THing As A Free Lunch

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:36 | 7168484 I MISS KUDLOW
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as far as jobs and unemployment,,,,,what happened to linkedin stock late last week,,,,,GULP,,,,,does that mean zero jobs coming or all govt jobs coming or is that the end of linkedin another almost worthless producing stock like facebook, twitter etc

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:36 | 7168485 I MISS KUDLOW
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as far as jobs and unemployment,,,,,what happened to linkedin stock late last week,,,,,GULP,,,,,does that mean zero jobs coming or all govt jobs coming or is that the end of linkedin another almost worthless producing stock like facebook, twitter etc

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:36 | 7168488 I MISS KUDLOW
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as far as jobs and unemployment,,,,,what happened to linkedin stock late last week,,,,,GULP,,,,,does that mean zero jobs coming or all govt jobs coming or is that the end of linkedin another almost worthless producing stock like facebook, twitter etc

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:57 | 7169117 Joe Sichs Pach
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I Miss Proper Elipses, or the lack of their use altogether...FFS

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 02:00 | 7169501 bilbert
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Post much, Dude??

Please keep your zipper up......

Thanks!

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 07:59 | 7169948 4 wheel drift
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hitlery will not be charged while the muslim is in power....  (hence she cannot be pardoned as she has not been charged)

when trump gets in, she will be charged and no fucking pardon will be possible....

she will deservedly fry like the pig she is

Sat, 02/13/2016 - 09:23 | 7180588 redd_green
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Naah. He gets a piece of it, related to trade.  But as far as this isis bullshit, he's just as bad as all th rest of the crooks.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:29 | 7168176 in4mayshun
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Trump can claim he's gonaa do this and that yada yada...but if he fails to address the FED, the TBTF banks, and current money (mis)management issues, were are going nowhere. This isnt a knock against Trump, just a simple fact.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:23 | 7168426 Tarzan
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Only Jesus can fix this mess and trump is no messiah. That's why Hillary the miracle worker is next up ;~)

The next prez will be the next scapegoat for the Beast,
oh my gosh, look what She did!

they're just praying they can hold it together until after the whore is nominated...Then she can finish her fortress in Baghdad and gather the troops for the blood bath, as Wall Street crashes around her...

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 02:36 | 7169584 The9thDoctor
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Roger Stone was on the Alex Jones Show saying that Donald Trump knows the entire conspiracy agenda, and that he is going on a "suicide mission" and willing to spend billions of his personal fortune to stop it.  Trump could retire and enjoy his golden years, but is instead risking his life taking on the Bush/Clinton regime head on.

Trump can't come out and talk about Zionism, the Fed, the hanky panky behind 9/11, insider trading, ISIS being a CIA creation, etc. on the campaign trail.  You have to remember the general public is ill informed and totally not ready for the big boy talk.

Trump does an excellent job not sounding like a kook to the idiot general public, but at the same time pissing off the establishment and causing irreparable damage to the political machine.

 

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 03:29 | 7169670 drendebe10
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Supporting Trump is giving the finger to the political PTB.   Fukem. Fujwmal.  And the fudgepacker They ride in on..

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:38 | 7168215 Mr. Magoo
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A few possible outcomes...

A) Trump is legit and America is meant to be doomed...expect an assassination, WW3 and/or engineered economic collapse.

B) Trump is legit and America is meant to reboot...means Europe is the target (removal of the monarchies).

C) Trump isn't legit...expect him to act like a dictator, America being his 5th bankruptcy.

D) Trump isn't legit...starts WW3.

 

I go with C & D

A & D is a pipe dream

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:44 | 7168533 DeathMerchant
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Oh he gets it, absolutely. He knows that ISIS is a CIA brainchild but he doesn't like the intent of the program plus I thi nk he likes killing terrorists regardless of the side they are on.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:47 | 7168546 DeathMerchant
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Oh he gets it, absolutely. He knows that ISIS is a CIA brainchild but he doesn't like the intent of the program plus I thi nk he likes killing terrorists regardless of the side they are on.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:00 | 7168836 dogismycopilot
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he has better security advisors than obama. of coure he knows.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:31 | 7168158 BaBaBouy
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GOLD should do well with Him In...

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 00:11 | 7169172 Chris Dakota
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I hope you are not American.

Gold doing well means you could have bullet put in your

head any moment.

I can't believe how naive the posters are here.

It's going chaos, you can't find your gold.

You will be dead before you find it.

Did you see Katrina, that was the dry run.

Did anyone think gold would save them.

Fucking guns, ammo, courage and food save you.

Somehow you dolts think you will eat popcorn and watch this.

from WHERE?

jeezzzzz

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 12:52 | 7171181 HughBriss
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LOL!  Looks like I'm the only asshole who bothered to upvote you!  

You can't eat gold.  You get it.  :)

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:21 | 7168411 snodgrass
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A  lot of them are there for a good reason. Send them back to Africa and Hispania and we can get rid of the prison industrial complex.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:46 | 7167997 JRobby
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A) sounds most likely. I think he is more American than anyone that is bought and paid for in the current GOVT, which is most of them. 

The people that work in the domestic spying operations are certainly not Americans.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:49 | 7168551 Clashfan
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Really? Is that why Trump supports killing Snowden? Trump is also a big fan of the police state. I can see this ending very badly, sorry.
I still like him better than all of the other Rs left. But I don't vote, haven't since 911. What's the point?

Show me a 911 truth candidate. Till then, not much matters.

What has Trump even said about the Fed? Uh-huh. Rrightt. 

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 02:39 | 7169591 The9thDoctor
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Trump is a 9/11 truther.

He is not going to come out and chant through a megaphone "NINE ELEVEN WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!"

He has to keep it on the down low... for now ;)

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:49 | 7168553 Clashfan
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Really? Is that why Trump supports killing Snowden? Trump is also a big fan of the police state. I can see this ending very badly, sorry.
I still like him better than all of the other Rs left. But I don't vote, haven't since 911. What's the point?

Show me a 911 truth candidate. Till then, not much matters.

What has Trump even said about the Fed? Uh-huh. Rrightt. 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:49 | 7168554 Clashfan
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Really? Is that why Trump supports killing Snowden? Trump is also a big fan of the police state. I can see this ending very badly, sorry.
I still like him better than all of the other Rs left. But I don't vote, haven't since 911. What's the point?

Show me a 911 truth candidate. Till then, not much matters.

What has Trump even said about the Fed? Uh-huh. Rrightt. 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:49 | 7168555 Clashfan
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Really? Is that why Trump supports killing Snowden? Trump is also a big fan of the police state. I can see this ending very badly, sorry.
I still like him better than all of the other Rs left. But I don't vote, haven't since 911. What's the point?

Show me a 911 truth candidate. Till then, not much matters.

What has Trump even said about the Fed? Uh-huh. Rrightt. 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:01 | 7168558 Clashfan
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sorry for multiple posts. Site is getting almost impossible for me to use. Not sure if it's the ads or something else, but I'm about to give up.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:01 | 7168826 valjoux7750
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Ice dragon browser for pc UC browser for android! Ads gone.   Your welcome

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:27 | 7168970 Antarctico
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Firefox plus Adblock Plus gets it done too.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 17:43 | 7173039 zippedydoodah
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Chrome + Adblock or Chrome + Adblock Plus AND add on Ghostery. I use all three together. Between them they block 45 "things". 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:30 | 7168988 FixItAgainTony
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Try Linux + NoScript, I run a 2008 era ToughBook with no frills and no problems.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 03:11 | 7169641 Mintcoin
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Thats another thing. Everyone make your next computer a Linux. Promote open source. Linux Mint is a good distribution BTW.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:55 | 7168034 Freddie
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The one possible thing I like about him is he (MAY) be strong enough to negotiate with the slimy banks when he takes out mortgages.  He said he writes tough contracts.

Here was something funny with Hillary getting punked.  2 guys wore "settle for Hillary" shirts at a rally in the picture.  Ha ha.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3395457/posts

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:18 | 7168601 oncefired
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Plane crash - that's one of their favorites

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:47 | 7169070 AGuy
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"I've said it before, since he isn't dependent on the Wall Street lobby, he will run things the way he wants,"

Let me stop you right there. Trump owes billions to the banks. Banks could make it very difficult for Trump:

1. Recalling outstanding Loans, could force him into bankrupcty. This is what happens in Isreal (bankers threaten to recall loans on Politicans if they don't tow the line)

2. Exposes his finances, problems, dirty secrets.

Unfortunately Trump is by no means insulated from the banksters. He would very much indeed be a banker's puppet.

 

" That makes him a target for the same type of ... cough .... cough .... random assassinations "

If It comes down to Trump and Sanders, I think the Bankster would treat Trump with kid gloves, since Benie is very much not going to end up as a Banker Puppet.

 

 FWIW: it really doesn't matter Come 2017, America is screwed. We'll have about $20T in Debt, rising unemployment and a faling economy. The reason why you don't see any real candidates running, its because they know its pointless and they've already run to the hills!

 

FWIW: Of all the candidates, I would have preferred Rand Paul. Rand is not Perfect, but it certainly isn't a clown.

 

 

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 02:00 | 7169499 FIAT CON
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I downvoted you for Rand, After leaving his father and jumping ship for Romney I almost puked!

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 00:31 | 7169247 newbie vampire
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"That makes him a target for the same type of ... cough .... cough ....  random assassinations that have happened in the past (Kennedy, Rabin, King, Reagan almost) just to name a few."

So if he is legit, then he may not finish his 1st term ?  Well, I'm gonna be voting for George Washington, they can't hurt him.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:49 | 7167690 Anarchy 99
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silly boy, the european monarchies own the banks that own the people than run this country, 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:27 | 7168150 eforce
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Which is exactly why they must be removed before we can go on to the next level of world government, read The Protocols...

 

"6. The people, under our guidance, have annihilated the aristocracy, who were their one and only defense and foster-mother for the sake of their own advantage which is inseparably bound up with the well-being of the people. Nowadays, with the destruction of the aristocracy, the people have fallen into the grips of merciless money-grinding scoundrels who have laid a pitiless and cruel yoke upon the necks of the workers.

7. We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces - socialists, anarchists, communists - to whom we always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of our social masonry. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labor of the workers, was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite - in the diminution, the killing out of the goyim. Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings.

8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way."

--The Protocols

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:02 | 7168801 Victory_Garden
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"--The Protocols"

Once upon a time in the tender year of 1995, reading this document was to every body a blueprint of the future anybody could see shaping up around them. It even ominously spoke to how terror would be used to attain all their ends.

It was a also the horrible warning to so many about the 9/11 false flag event that most of anyone in govt with two eyes that areone, could plainly see. This is another reason the lynch-pin leading to the fall of babylon must be revealed to the world before any moar hocus pocus shit show circus clown acts in this election scam distracts from the corruption that has plagued and virally infested everything economic. Everybody knows there is no such thing as a real election any moar. It is ALL RIGGED, and only needs to be abandoned. Try something old fashioned that has a proven record and DO NOT let masons and mason families count the votes, or ANY OTHER organized group, be it secret, or not. Pick vote counters like they pick juries.

Yeah, yeah yeah.

Who's knockin?

Stop the March, towards moar war for the war profiteers.

RELEASE THE 28 PAGES!!!

http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-jeb-scurries-when-confronted-on-missin...

 

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 00:25 | 7169226 DipshitMiddleCl...
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This is what they did in Ukraine.

 

It didn't work so they just starved them too death.

 

 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:48 | 7168005 centerline
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Well, let's dissect this.  You said "a few "possible" outcomes.""  And get downvoted agressively with little debate.  Bravo ZH'ers.  Congrats on dumbing down this site to monkey poo flinging status.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:27 | 7168163 sapioplex
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Poitics has devolved into little else. Perhaps the downvotes are a reflection of that.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:36 | 7168701 jaxville
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  Centerline....He then ruled out two of the possible outcomes. You and others like you are what make this site look bad.  Go post on the Jew York Times

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:43 | 7168724 centerline
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nice try dickweed.  I commented on the original statement - which was in the authors right, reasonably disclaimered, and appeared to be phrased for the purpose of generating feedback.

NYT is about quelling opinion.  Therefore, it seems your attempt to turn the tables using such an attack only exposes you are the troll.  That is, there was no sense in going there - except as an act of deflection.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:45 | 7168737 Dickweed Wang
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nice try dickweed . . .

 

Avatar infringement!!  Thou shalt not use my name in vain!!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:51 | 7168758 centerline
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Oh damn.  Sorry.  Is what I get for acting out in public!  Time stamps matter when it comes to context!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:06 | 7168869 jaxville
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  You are geting your panties in a knot over folks disagreeing with someone elses opinion.  I like this site for that reason.  I also upvote people's comments I disagree with if the comment is humourous.  Life is too short to pass up on a good laugh. 

  I do apologize for suggesting posting on the Times. That was a low blow.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:37 | 7169019 Dickweed Wang
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You are forgiven my son.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:40 | 7168712 Urban Redneck
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Big picture- The inevitable path was documented by Polybius over 2000 years ago. Since then guys like Kondratiev and Wheeler tweaked the math, before Strauss & Howe went all Kardashian/Jenner and started twerking the math and path for the dumbed down illiterate masses.

Trump represents actual progress (for better OR worse) towards the INEVITABLE next phase transition on the really big RINSE, REPEAT machine, in a way Sanders does not. Sanders' gripe with the existing 31 flavors of big government are honest and legitimate, but Ben & Jerry's 32nd flavor (MOAR of the Same Big G) is actually a perpetuation of the STATUS QUO- and the banksters WILL figure out how to use their monopoly to milk that for all its worth...

So Trump could go Cincinnatus/Washington (better) or he could go Adolph/Bonaparte (worse) or TPTB could Lincoln/JFK his ass. Either way the elite need to be stripped of some power, which needs to be returned to the people from whom sovereignty is conferred. Whether the oligarchy can be overthrown directly, or we need a (hopefully brief) interregnum with a strong man, or whether we need a martyr to lite fire under some overweight lethargic asses... minor details all...

At this point, what difference does it make? Unless you actually ENJOY the status quo, or waiting for Godot...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:46 | 7168746 centerline
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Cool response UR.  I tend to agree.  It is a shifting of the sands one way or another despite what Trump is or is not.  The masses are beginning to get pissed.  The trend will only accelerate. 

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 08:59 | 7170205 overmedicatedun...
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Trump, lotta hate from the leftist Hillary's boys posting here after leaving huff po..

One comment on Trump made yesterday by an MSM talking head:

"Trump has brought up subjects very important to the ave american, not seen in politics for 3 decades"..

well he has. all the others selling soap.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:41 | 7168235 Golden Showers
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I'd go with E) All of the above. WW3 & Economic Collapse are baked in the pudding. These are not mutually exclusive if "Hair Doland" is legit or illegit. What he is to the people is a walking-talking rail splitter. I like the guy: especially for the dystopian absurdity of the whole "race" or "running" for "designated Dummy" office in the America.

Keeping in mind the hopium factor, if Trump should win, he's got a lot of shit to clean up. The image of this man, going from private to public is going to be the most difficult thing for him. If he just keeps punching everyone in Washington up the ass he will shine. The average joe who would allow him the honor of leading the America (after the rigging of the election, naturally) should guarantee the next President a much harder ass punching if the Prez doesn't deliver.

It's obvious that what Americans want is a Janitor in Chief.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 01:52 | 7169482 SilverSphinx
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Trump is a megalomaniacal psychopath.

Is he a prosocial psychopath? I don't know, but he is Dangerous with a capitol D.

But in anycase, WW3 was started by George Bush when, after the U.S. was attacked on 9/11/2001 by a group composed primarily of Saudi Arabians, that were members of a terrorist organisation led by a Saudi Arabian, that was mostly funded by money out of Saudi Arabia, Bush then had the U.S. military attack and invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with the attack on us.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 01:52 | 7169483 cornflakesdisease
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E>  Trump is legit, tries to go back to tarfiffs, Dollar, Inc. kills him in a plane crash.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:55 | 7167674 Killdo
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He is like a gayer version of  former Serbian president Milosevic.

and he seems to target the same lowest common denomiator demographics

with extra serving of religious BS - just lke Milosevic I remember from 89. Even his wife comes from former Yugoslavia

Just one of numerous ways the USSA reminds me of former Yugoslavia from late 80s (but with much, much more spying). 

He is probably right about the unemployment figure (and I woudl still vote for him over Hitlery). 

This is the second time I see him on TV and I always expected him to look much more confident and less gay (Liberace hair does not help)

 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:18 | 7167860 MANvsMACHINE
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You seem to have very accurate GaydarTM.  Can you tell me what you attribute that to?

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:22 | 7167874 Killdo
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2 degrees in psychology and having lived in LA for a decade and a few other things

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:48 | 7168004 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"2 degrees in psychology and having lived in LA for a decade and a few other things"~

Oh, so you're saying you're infected?

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:58 | 7168055 Freddie
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Every spychologist I ever met was disturbed.  Native Los Angelinos but this idiot is a transplant.  David Bowie became a raging coke head in LA and said the place should be nuked after he left.  he joked he went to berlin to get off drugs even though Berlin is full of drugs.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:55 | 7168800 ThroxxOfVron
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I went from Berlin to LA during the same period as Bowie.

I was in Berlin when The Wall fell and saw everything right up front at the friggin' gate.  

I left LA mere days before the LA Riots.  The very last thing I said was: "These people are all fucking disgusting and insane, full of incalcuable hate, and are all just waiting for some/any asinine excuse to murder each other."

LA is a goddamned hell-hole of drugs, deceit, douche-bags, and disease.

My girl at the time got hooked, learned to lie like an incumbent politican, smashed up my fucking Volvo 242DL AND sold almost everything I owned AND emptied the bank account AND abandoned our apartment while I was gone for a few weeks on a business trip, and caught both the measles and the clap: all within 6 months!!!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:22 | 7168942 Victory_Garden
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"...:all within 6 months!!!"

Did she get the t-shirt that read: There is NO Life...East of PCH.(Pacific Coast Highway)?

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 09:38 | 7170333 detached.amusement
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Every spychologist I ever met was disturbed

 

 

ditto that, especially the fkn one I married

(the divorce was the easiest part)

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 18:28 | 7173254 Killdo
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I agree - and many psychology students when I studied were gay and there was one German tranny too (this was in London). 

Luckily I have other degrees and never worked as a psychologist but I did learn many things there

 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:55 | 7168040 JRobby
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closet

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:01 | 7168330 Marge N Call
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OMFG, you admit that????

Jeez sorry dude.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 18:37 | 7173300 Killdo
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in Serbia you can sleep with whoever you want nobody gives a shit - as long as you don't suck dicks on the street as I saw peole do in LA/London. 

it's like religion - it's supposed to be only your own business

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:03 | 7168839 dogismycopilot
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go home to whats left of Yugoslavia if you dont like America.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 18:38 | 7173232 Killdo
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I do go to Serbia a lot and it's freer and much happier than the USSA in every respect. People interact, share and still stay in tuch with their childhood friends as I do when I go there. My 9 year old nephews play soccer outside in Belgrade at 10pm freely and safely. 

Most of my cousins there make more money than many people I know here and are much happier. Also Serbs, Croats and others now seem to get on very well from what I see when I go there wich si good since we are the same people and speak the same language. 

I am actually movinng to Australia because it seems to have good aspects of many countries I have lived in and I like how girls seem honest, straightforward and how they like men as Serbian girls do. (Unlike American men with tits as I call them)

It gives me no joy that the USSA is rapidly becoming a gulag, but I can't wait to get the fuck out of here - especially after having travelled aroud the world for 11 months

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:43 | 7167976 25or6to4
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Too bad about Milosevic, I mean dying of a heart attack three days before his trial . I was looking forward to all the mountain of evidence ZATO had against him.to use as an excuse to set up an Islamic state in Europe.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:13 | 7168110 corsair
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Actually, he did have a (lengthy) trial which was quite disastrous for ZATO, so he conveniently died a couple of days before the verdict.

Too bad the internet and alt-media were not so live back then. That trial could have been an eye-opener for many.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 18:30 | 7173279 Killdo
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I remember the English judge died too after a few months

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:38 | 7168713 jaxville
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I am getting real fed up with people slandering Hitler by comparing that awful waste of skin to him.  Please stop it.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:57 | 7167737 noless
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Watch Palin's trump endorsement speech if you haven't, either she or her speech writer definitely read ZH.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:47 | 7167999 McMolotov
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Reading Palin's speech is a better recommendation. Watching Palin's speech is suggested only if you want to see the effects of cocaine and/or meth on a person's higher brain functions.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:28 | 7168444 acetinker
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Palin sounds like a fiddler using a hacksaw as a bow. Initially, it's strikingly different, but in short order she saws clean through the Stradivarius.

Not good.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 00:30 | 7169242 malek
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Laugh of the day for me, thanks!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:17 | 7167855 Wilcox1
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So he's in an epochal sweet spot where he can have success and not have to go Galt?  I'm OK with that

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:39 | 7167952 Goliath Slayer
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It's the American Curse >>> http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-3z

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:48 | 7167683 EddieLomax
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Trump does not give out detailed plans, but his track record shows that he does not just talk about things but acts.  That skating rink in NY was being developed for years, Trump took it over and finished it in months just for the fun of it.

Richard Branson, Ben Carson, and Trump all have this in common, whatever they are they are not all talk, for that reason alone I'm keen to see Trump in the oval office, where America goes Europe (hopefully) will follow.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:52 | 7168019 Theosebes Goodfellow
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I'd love to see Carson as Trump's veep. I think Carson would make a great president as well, but he could use 4 or 8 years in the Senate making sausage before filling the shoes.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:15 | 7168117 Freddie
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The only thing that will save Western Europe now is Eastern Europe, Russia and Putin.  I have been saying that for about a decade.  They will save Europe before z-America will.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 18:39 | 7173315 zippedydoodah
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Save Western Europe from what exactly? From the dominance of the US? Please elaborate.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:37 | 7168495 acetinker
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When it comes to geopolitics, Trump don't know his ass from a hole in the ground.  OTOH, he's gonna want a look under the hood, and he's not stupid, or a murderer, afaik.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 00:42 | 7169285 Max Cynical
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Cruz was on Kelly File tonight spewing lies about Trump like any slimy politician...claiming he supports single payer and partial birth abortion...and kept repeating it. Kelly never pushed back.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:02 | 7168842 Marco
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Employment creates stability, we would be better off if all the unemployed were serving drinks.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:00 | 7167608 macholatte
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Trump may not succeed with what he says he is going to do, but I belleve he will try.

All the promises made by the RINO's (Red Team Regressives) to get elected in 2014 turned out to be wolves in sheeps clothing. We need to get rid of them. They need to be eradicated.  JMHO

 

Hitler Reacts to Donald Trump Running for President
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajqWJEVKMLc

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:10 | 7168104 lakecity55
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2X the voters voted for the Rs, who said they would roll back Statist initiatives (like O'Care). Both times, as soon as the swearing in was over, they defected. No wonder Trump and Bernie are on the loose!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:44 | 7167984 BullyBearish
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This is how they'll take care of the "unemployment problem":

NATO to Expand Military Presence in Europe to Deter Russians--NYTimes

 

WWIII anyone?

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:33 | 7168998 Victory_Garden
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Bully!

Posted a few back:

http://news.antiwar.com/2016/02/07/nato-to-mass-troops-along-russia-fron...

Leading edge light:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG69Hyo56z0

Stay tuned as the babylonians March off to moar woar!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 21:35 | 7168475 koan
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I like him too, during at least one debate he said things no other "candidate" could say, and more than once you could see them cringe when he said something.

 

I'm not referring to the "mexican rapist" comments, I am referring to when he admitted buying politicians and that all of them are for sale because they have no money, unlike Trump.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:01 | 7168805 Al Gophilia
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At Panic Mode.

So, Trump is your new Hair Apparent(ly)?

Can you tell us of his philosophy in relation to a Constitutional Republic and its concommitant Bill of Rights; including all clauses and ammendments? ALL.

What is your philosophical basis for voting? Moar, or less government? You know, the kind that has limited powers or the kind that we have now, which ignores the Constitution and employs lawyers to re-interpret it and promulgates laws without going to the people?

What's he going to do about that?

I haven't heard one word about that from him and actually saw a street interview of him where when asked the question about his position on Libertian principles, he replied; " Uh, yeah, I like that Liberty thing".

"Which part of it do you like, sir?" the reporter asked.

 Stuck for a reply and at being exposed for being a decietful asshole, he replied, threatenly, "Careful! (sonny)".

That stalwart of Liberty, that Quisling son of Ron Paul, wanted Abbey Martin sacked for her temerity in asking him illuminating questions.

What does any one of these sociopaths get out of this and then ask yourself, if you vote for him and he wins, what do you get out of his Presidency,; Hope or Liberty?

No. a job is all he promises you. Keep feeding the machine.

 

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:36 | 7169013 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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TrumpO the AssClown is a New York shitty Real Estate tycoon
that would sell you out for a fucking slice of pizza, BuckO.
Grow the fuck up.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 08:18 | 7170005 TruthHunter
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"sheep skins."

Wolf in wolf's clothing?

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:23 | 7167510 JustObserving
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John Williams of Shadowstats says it is 23%.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

David Stockman looks at US unemployment:

At the present time, there are 210 million adult Americans between the ages of 16 and 68—to take a plausible measure of the potential work force. That amounts to 420 billion potential labor hours, if we accept the convention that all adults are at least theoretically capable of holding a full-time job (2,000 hours/year) and pulling their share of society’s need for production and work effort.

By contrast, during 2014 only 240 billion hours were actually supplied to the US economy, according to the BLS estimates. Technically, therefore, there were 180 billion unemployed labor hours, meaning that the real unemployment rate was 42.9%, not 5.5%!

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/the-warren-buffett-economy-why-its...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:23 | 7167533 Fester
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David Stockman is a banker.

 

Once a banker always a banker.  

 

He gets the rope too.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:31 | 7167582 bbq on whitehou...
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Thats alot of rope you plan on using. You might want to start weaving hair. Condition hair mind you, dont want to be considered uncivilized.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 03:48 | 7169693 flysofree
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He is a paid shill for the austerity gangsters such as Koch bros and Pete Peterson.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:25 | 7167541 new game
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he said(stockman), all you have to do is look at payroll deductions for an accurate understanding and we already have those numbers in real time. BLS is just a department of manipulators trying to cover up the real story.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:28 | 7167570 krispkritter
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BLS=Bullshit Lying Statistics

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:39 | 7167627 macholatte
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FYI: US BLS Rotten to the core

Erica Groshen (born August 6, 1954) is the Commissioner of Labor Statistics and head of the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the independent, principal fact-finding agency for the U.S. government in the broad field of labor economics and statistics.[1] Previously, Groshen served as a vice president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.[2]

Groshen was nominated for the BLS post in February, 2012, and confirmed by the U.S. Senate in January, 2013.[3][4][5]

Groshen received a bachelor’s degree in economics and mathematics from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and a Ph.D. in economics from Harvard University.
– Wikipedia

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:03 | 7168072 JRobby
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oh it is an infestation. There is no doubt about that. Every place you look that is a key propaganda / control component.

when you have an infestation, you must terminate with aggressive prejudice quickly

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:19 | 7168131 GlobalMapper
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Figures lie and liars figure.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 23:00 | 7168830 Felix da Kat
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BLS: Bureau of Lying Sycophants (Which is exactly what they are).

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:06 | 7167809 Wilcox1
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Stockman is right--Collapse in current withholdings

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:34 | 7167596 Thick Willy
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Trump's gonna go full fascist and put Americans back to work.  And make America great again.

Hail Trump!  Hail Victory!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:42 | 7167641 BigRedRider
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If he gets to make the trains run on time again, he's got my vote and my psychotic other self's vote.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:32 | 7167915 peddling-fiction
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Did they split you or did you come with that added feature?

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:34 | 7168693 Libertati Aut A...
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I think you mean, Seig Trump!

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:18 | 7167511 Haole
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He may be a populist but he's the only prayer "the American people" have...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:17 | 7167854 SilverDOG
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He says he is going to achieve many objectives.

How.

For a country like the USA, is today.

History is not illustrious for accomplishing such.

It has been done.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:37 | 7167947 Haole
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I can say this... Those supporting him because he's going to make the U.S. "more competitive" in a global marketplace aren't going to like how it's eventually done in the least if it's in the stars...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:18 | 7168128 Freddie
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He should get off that Make America Great Again and change it to tell Americans that I am going to work to try to stop the govt from f***king you over at every turn and starting endless wars and proxy wars.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 00:52 | 7169321 Max Cynical
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What's better for America? A $500B annual trade deficit with China or tariffs to level the playing field?

I'd rather keep the $500B circulating at home.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 08:21 | 7170011 SilverDOG
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Haole,

More competitive does not have guaranteed intent of improving lifestyle in the US.

Lowering is far more likely as such is currently occurring, and will accelerate in order to become "more competitive".

The rhyme of history is unlikely to be harmonic for the masses.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 15:25 | 7172229 Haole
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That's exactly what I meant DOG.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:26 | 7168157 StateofFraud
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Wacky haiku weirdness there.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:36 | 7167936 Bunga Bunga
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If you are not singing the elite propaganda lies, you are an evil populist. Got it.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 22:41 | 7168729 jaxville
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He might work with the "J" team but unlike everyone of the other candidates, the "J" team does not own him.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:20 | 7167517 new game
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even if he is half right it is better than a full lie, ha...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:24 | 7167523 Dr. Engali
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Record high numbers of people on SNAP, just saying.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 18:55 | 7167724 Kirk2NCC1701
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SNAP, EBT, UI (debit card based Unemployment and Welfare payment systems)are there to...

1. Hide the Unemployment and Welfare (permanent Poverty), so that the Food Lines and Unemployment lines are not visible to the Public and the Media.  --> "Out of sight, out of mind" makes the Poverty & Job NARRATIVE more manageable by TPTB.

2. As another Controlled Narrative, Public Policy, Fiscal Policy and National Budgets become more controlled by TPTB (Deep State).  Even during the Election season, unless a prominent politician shines the floodlight on it and rings the alarm bells.  Which the Controlled Media may or may not discuss, w/o putting official Spin on it.

3. It conditions the masses across several generations, to use Electronic Currency as "Money" (debit cards, phone and online payments).  These Sheeple will not complain enough, nor protest in droves, when Cash is all but banned for anything but small Transactions.  -->  Cashless Society = Sheeple

4. It prevents the frustration and anger levels of the Poor Masses from building to a Critical Level (via Feedback loops), when the extent of Unemployment and Poverty is hidden.  ---> It front-runs and frustrates attempts at Mass Protests that so often lead to violent Revolution.

Welcome to the Banana Republic par Excellence, the Brave New 1984 that is modern USSA.  Welcome to the Neo-Feudal NWO.  

 

If the election of Sanders or Trump does not change the course of the country DRAMATICALLY from its present course -- a Death Spiral in plain sight, but ignored by the MSM (the Ministry of Truth) -- then the experiment that was 1776 America will end, and it will be time to bring out the 'Pitchforks' and Rope, and time to round up the Politicians and Banksters, and to do them "Swift Justice" by the thousands.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:02 | 7167771 Killdo
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I've just read a great book about how we entered this new feudalism (and it's worse and more corrupt than I thought) - Killing the Host:

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Host-Financial-Parasites-Bondage/dp/398148...

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 20:07 | 7168091 JRobby
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I haven't checked the link yet but I fucking love the title right out of the gate!

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 03:54 | 7169699 flysofree
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He is best guy to explain what really happened with neo-liberalism.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:13 | 7167836 Oldwood
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Sanders want to tax wall street to pay for all of his giveaways. That tells me that he intends on government being OFFICIALLY dependent on wall street for funding. If they were too big to fail before, how big will they be under Bernie. Leftists are always wanting to tax those things they see as undesirable, pretending they are a punishment when in reality they are embedding them more or less permanently into our economy.... for all time.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:46 | 7167995 NoPension
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.gov puts a $2.00 tax on a pack of smokes.

What do they want most?;

A) People quit smoking

B) The Money

So Bernie's plans depend on Wall Street still raking it in, he just wants a bigger cut of the spoils.

Our manufacturing is gone, mostly. If we don't get it back, we're fucked.

Wed, 02/10/2016 - 19:52 | 7168022 Oldwood
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We need just two things:

Punish fucking thieves

Stop paying people not to work

Morality is NOT about some beautiful idea...like socialism. Morals were not "written" they were learned. it is called survival. Sometimes it sucks, but its what it takes to survive.

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