Russian Prime Minister Warns There Will Be A "Permanent World War" If Saudis Invade Syria

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"It’s a joke. We couldn't wish [for] more than that. If they can do it, then let them do it — but talking militarily, this is not easy for a country already facing defeat in another war, in Yemen, where after almost one year they have failed in achieving any real victory.”

That’s what one source in the Iranian military had to say about reports that Saudi Arabia is preparing to send ground troops into Syria.

If you frequent these pages you know why Riyadh (and Ankara for that matter) is considering the ground option. The effort to oust Bashar al-Assad and the Alawite government was going reasonably well right up until September. Sure, the conflict was dragging into its fifth year, but Assad’s army was on the ropes and absent a miracle, it seemed likely that his government would fall.

As it turns out, Assad did indeed get a miracle from above although instead of divine intervention it was Russian airstrikes which commenced from Latakia starting on September 30. Contrary to The White House’s prediction that Putin would find himself in a “quagmire,” Russia and Hezbollah have rolled up the opposition and are preparing to recapture Aleppo, the country’s largest city and a major commercial hub. If that happens, the rebellion is over.

That would be a disaster to the rebels’ Sunni benefactors as it would mean Iran will preserve the Shiite crescent and its supply lines to Hezbollah. It would also give Tehran bragging rights in the bitter ideological war with Riyadh. Simply put, that's unacceptable for the Saudis and so, it’s time to call upon the ground troops.

But this isn’t Yemen where the Iranians are fighting via proxies. If the Saudis start shooting at the IRGC or at Hezbollah in Syria it’s just as likely as not that the two countries will go to war and just like that, you’d have the beginning of World War III.

Don’t believe us? Just ask Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev.

If Arab forces entered the Syrian war they could spark a new world war," Medvedev warned on Thursday. “Ground offensives usually lead to wars becoming permanent". Here’s what else he told Handelsblatt:

"The Americans and our Arabic partners must think hard about this: do they want a permanent war?”


"Do they really think they would win such a war very quickly? That's impossible, especially in the Arabic world. There everyone is fighting against everyone... everything is far more complicated. It could take years or decades."


"Why is that necessary? All sides must be forced to the negotiating table instead of sparking a new world war."

Yes, "all sides must come to the negotiating table." Of course that's easy for Medvedev to say. After all, it's a lot easier to sit at the table when you've already won and are negotiating from a position of strength. 

That is, there won't be anything left to negotiate in a couple of weeks if things keep going like they're going. What Moscow pretty clearly wants to do is crush the opposition in Aleppo and then discuss how to proceed with some kind of political "agreement" that will prevent whatever remains of the rebels from launching a prolonged war of attrition involving periodic attacks on government forces.

In any event, don't say Russia didn't warn everyone when the Saudis and the Turks end up setting the world on the road to a global conflict. Below, find excerpts from an interview The Atlantic conducted with Andrew Tabler of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

Kathy Gilsinan: I wanted to start with what the significance of Aleppo has been to the Syrian uprising up to this point.

Andrew Tabler: Aleppo is Syria’s largest city. It’s the commercial hub. It is extremely important, particularly to the opposition, because Aleppo, along with the other northwestern cities, have been some of the strongest opponents to the Assad regime historically. I think the decision in 2012 to take [the city] was one of the first real major offensives of the armed opposition in Syria. And they hoped that by denying the regime Aleppo, it would set up an alternative capital and allow for a process where the Assad regime’s power was whittled away. Since that time, it has instead been one of the most bombed, barrel-bombed, and decimated parts of Syria, and now is much more like Dresden than anything else.

Gilsinan: If Aleppo falls, walk me through what happens next. First, how would it change the balance of power, within the civil war, between the rebels and the regime?

Tabler: I think it would cement the regime’s hold on “essential Syria”—western Syria, perhaps with the exception of Idlib province [to] the south [of Aleppo]. But basically you would have the regime presence from Aleppo the whole way down to Hama, Homs, and Damascus, and that’s the spine of the country, and that’s what concerns the regime and the Iranians in particular. It would then allow them to free up forces, potentially, to go on the offensive elsewhere, directly into Idlib province, most likely, and then eventually into the south. Then after that they could turn their attention finally to ISIS.

Gilsinan: And then what happens to the regional balance of power within that war?

Tabler: It would be a tremendous loss for the U.S. and its traditional allies: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Jordan. It’s already been extremely costly for most of those allies, but it would be a defeat [in the face of] the Russian-Iranian intervention in Syria. This would also be a huge loss for the United States vis-à-vis Russia in its Middle East policy, certainly. And because of the flow of refugees as a result of this, if they go northward to Europe, then you would see a migrant crisis in Europe that could lead to far-right governments coming to power which are much more friendly to Russia than they are to the United States. I think that is likely to happen.

Gilsinan: So it changes the entire orientation, not just of the Middle East, but of Europe as well.

Tabler: It will soften up American power in Europe, yeah. And put into jeopardy a lot of the advances in the NATO-accession countries, which are adjacent to Russia, as well.

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So Close's picture

Chess vs checkers.

Purpurroter Regen's picture
Purpurroter Regen (not verified) So Close Feb 11, 2016 7:39 PM

The truth about the conflict with Russia >>

fx's picture

So right when markets start to crash in earnest and the world economy is about to fall off a cliff we have already a battlefield at hand that could provide the nucleus for world war III. The 'coincidence' in the timing is perplexing...

knukles's picture

The enemy of my enemy is my friend and I have no fucking idea who my friends and enemies are anymore.

Veriton's picture

Geopolitics is the globalist Left Hand arm-wrestling with the globalist Right Hand. Why focus on the hands instead of the head and what it is after? -

Let’s cut the crap: Vladimir Putin is helping usher in the globalist New World Order

weburke's picture

the head of turkey is convinced he is the leader of islam

NoDebt's picture

Does the Russian Prime Minister realize he just gave every NeoCon in the western world a woody when he said that?


Veriton's picture

Putin is just the latest false hero the Powers That Be have sold us. How many times will we fall for the same old tricks before we get wise? If we don't want our descendants being inescapably enslaved to the Chabad Lubavitchers, we'd better learn quickly. Have a look at Berel Lazar to get started...

jeff montanye's picture

better a false hero than none at all.

we've been stuck with the coward warmongers bush and obama for sixteen years (and the horndog bankster clinton before them).

got to believe the chabad lubavitchers don't regard putin as a hero of any sort at all. 

but if some do perhaps it's because According to an editorial in the Jerusalem Post the reason why Lazar has not protested Putin's arrests of Jewish oligarchs and their deportation is that "Russia's own Chief Rabbi, Chabad emissary Berel Lazar, is essentially a Kremlin appointee who has been made to neutralize the more outspoken and politically active leaders of rival Jewish organizations."(wiki for berel lazar)


Veriton's picture

Putin is the Lubavitchers' boy, and you will find out later this year that Putin himself is a Jew. If you click on the Lazar link, you'll find out about his family's connection to the late Rabbi Schneerson...

"Schneerson was criticized for his passion and desire to raise awareness of the coming of the Messiah. Detractors criticized a children's song with the words “We want moshiach (the messiah) now / We don't want to wait,” that Schneerson commended."

And now he is handling Putin, who is being set up to be the Jewish Messiah.

You'll also find out about Lazar's links to the Russian oligarchs.

It's all just sitting there for you to discover -- or you can keep drinking the Putin Kool Aid the globalists are dispensing. If you want your kids and grandkids to be slaves with no hope of escape, keep up the denial.

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Chris Dakota (not verified) Veriton Feb 11, 2016 9:11 PM

He is a Jew, and he is a big player in the NWO satanic state.

He came to power under the grand fixed cross with eclipse of 1999.

Look at all the money he stole from the Russian people.

I have met so many Russians in the past few years that HATE him.

Read Genisis 3 and you will understand that Satan seduced Eve

and had sex with her, she gave birth to the demonic seed.

That is what we are dealing with, it is so obvious to those with eyes wide open.

Jews are of Satanic bloodlines.

Element's picture

So it doesn't strike you as just a wee bit inconguous that Pootie as messaih of the kikes, is on the side of Assad, the guy who's supporting Hezbollah and Iran against the kike state then?

Let's try to keep it a tiny bit 'real', huh? lol

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Chris Dakota (not verified) Chris Dakota Feb 11, 2016 9:35 PM

On 9 August 1999, Vladimir Putin was appointed one of three First Deputy Prime Ministers, and later on that day was appointed acting Prime Minister of the Government of the Russian Federation by President Boris Yeltsin.[45] Yeltsin also announced that he wanted to see Putin as his successor. Still later on that same day, Putin agreed to run for the presidency.[46]

On 16 August, the State Duma approved his appointment as Prime Minister with 233 votes in favour (vs. 84 against, 17 abstained),[47] while a simple majority of 226 was required, making him Russia's fifth PM in fewer than eighteen months. On his appointment, few expected Putin, virtually unknown to the general public, to last any longer than his predecessors. He was initially regarded as a Yeltsin loyalist; like other prime ministers of Boris Yeltsin, Putin did not choose ministers himself, his cabinet being determined by the presidential administration.


Great Eclipse and Grand Fixed Cross of August 11, 1999



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Baby Bladeface (not verified) Chris Dakota Feb 11, 2016 11:33 PM

Somewhere opened a psychiatric hospital and the patients were released.

There procedure of lobotomy on the conveyor set, apparently. Otherwise this amount of cretins on the page to explain...

COSMOS's picture

That or an ISIS training camp.  Veriton with that five times a day prayer beard shadow, sure looks like one of those Wachubby guys.

taoJones's picture

I hear you & I pray it's not true, but for the sake of argument let's say it is... if I have a say in which oligarch I get ruled by, I will take Putin & his masters over the western idiots. At least Putin gives the appearance of morality, common sense, empathy, etc. ... the western fools are liars & psychopaths from beginning to end. But if Putin's masters are the same as the Wests', then ya, we're screwed...

Veriton's picture

The problem is that the only diffference between Putin and the western idiots is the roles they have been assigned to play by their shared bosses. Why do you want to be ruled by an oligarch? Are you incapable of ruling yourself? Are you incapable of banding together with your neighbors to start taking control of your community? Are you incapable of banding together with other communities to take control of your state? And so on?

taoJones's picture

Do I prefer to not be ruled by oligarchs? Absolutely! I thought that by me being here that was kind of implied. I answer to no man, and I am already doing much of what you have said. And rest assured, when push comes to shove, I will go down a free man, guns blazing (or whatever happens to be handy at the time) 

LetThemEatRand's picture

Yellen and her Rothschild masters are sporting wood.  Oy vey, a world war?!  

StychoKiller's picture

Right, and I have a promising career in pr0n, but my wife won't give her permission! :>D

Latina Lover's picture

Notice how Neocon cowardly fucks like Andrew Tabler  no longer use the dreaded "ISIS" acronym? Instead they refer to their head chopping pets as 'rebel's, somehow making their crimes more respectable.  I so look forward to Putin putting paid to the NWO cocksuckers fascist dreams.

BTW, Putin is far from an angel, but he is NOT part of the elitist global dialectic.  Until he showed up with China, we were being forced into slavery via the NWO 'Totalitarian Tiptoe'. 

Killdo's picture

we are still being pushed into slavery   - this great book I read recently explains the process and what to do about it - he uses parasites (more fitting than psychopaths) as a metaphor for banksters and Obushama/Hitlery-like politicians:

omniversling's picture

Two ways to withdraw from legal name bonded servitude. Move from public to private:

Kenneth Scott: Hidden in Plain Sight, Seeing the Real Matrix - Anarchast Ep.275

...Or dump the legal name fiction:

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Baby Bladeface (not verified) Latina Lover Feb 11, 2016 11:07 PM

This Tabler guy just another cheap propagandist.

"it has instead been one of the most bombed, barrel-bombed, and decimated parts of Syria"

Bombed and barrel-bombed? Don't ask him to explain the difference - there is none. Guy is shameless and a clinical moron.

Analogue would be to tell that Afghan border area is one of the most drone-bombed, drone-wedding-bombed and drone-funeral-bombed parts of Pakistan.

US propaganda style guide tells always to mention barrel bombs. It is a fingerprint of cheap US propaganda, rote memorisation and regurgitation of State Department scripts.

jeff montanye's picture

that's why nato, the global finance establishment, etc. put sanctions on russia in the hope of removing putin from office.  

not to mention the nuland cookies.

lincolnsteffens's picture

Russia is no more helping the globalist NWO than is the US, Germany, France, UK...etc. but I did up vote you.

omniversling's picture

Missionary Accomplished - Albert '33' Pike

“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

Some hoax...

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

You're not supposed to COMPLETELY encircle your enemy.  It gives them no choice but to fight to the death.  What you want is to give them an avenue, a dangerous potential escape route, and once they start to rout...

If that is the case, the women and children should stay put, if possible, and NOT flee with the rebels.

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GhostOfDiogenes (not verified) Herd Redirection Committee Feb 11, 2016 7:58 PM

"What you want is to give them an avenue, a dangerous potential escape route, and once they start to rout..."

Ze Germans exported jews to israel under the Haavara treaty and the jews turned about and screwed the planet especually ze Germans.

The only "out" juden deserve is in ovens.

A REAL holocaust this time.

Hitler was an under achiever.

MSimon's picture

The Israelis seem to know how to deal with Islam. One Jew hater on this board even suggested taking lessons from them in that regard.


ISIS fears Israel:

jeff montanye's picture

israel is isis's family physician.

the cia and the mossad created isis.

Freddie's picture

Too bad the IDF does not know how to deal with Hezbollah in Lebanon.  They lost in 2000 and 2006.  IDF is a paper tiger against a decent milita/army.

acetinker's picture

It's not lost on us that your acronym is GOD.  However, you are correct that juden have been expelled more times than they've been embraced.

Seems to me that the enemy has never been the juden- it is the khazarian.

If ever the juden decides to expose the khazarian as a fraud, the juden will be accepted.

Not before.

MSimon's picture

You make a good pomt. The khazarians got smarter because of selection pressure. Their enemies killed off the stupid. It only took about 800 years of selection pressure to get their average IQ up 15 points. Where that matters is in the tail of the curve. It produces about 10X per capita the number of people with IQs above 160.


To the average person an IQ above 160 is a different species. Something often attributed to the Jews.

flapdoodle's picture

Also creates 10x per capita number of sociopaths and psychopaths... along with a holy book that casts into moral  law  that goyim are the untermench and everything is morally acceptable against them...

acetinker's picture

Given that the juden and the muslim holy books are so very similar, where does that leave the goyim?

I will say this:  the muslim forbade usury- in any case.  The juden said it was ok, as long as the entrepreneur (borrower) wasn't juden.

Small distinction- big difference.

So, the muslim is my enemy, huh?  Wonder why.

ack's picture

Precisely. A tribe of Leopold and Loeb fukwits.     

trulz4lulz's picture

Strange. Its as if they teach a specific breed of Ashkenazi racial superiority..brought on totally by the hardships theor people endured; at no fault of their own mind you. It was though stupid goyium you see. Had they been slightly less inferior pehaps they could understand how superior they really are. Funny about the IQ thing though is they sure do champion the false science pretty well. Evertime i hear a government non goyiym troll espousing his utter indisputible knowledge of 9/11 i can only think to if only my IQ wasnt 140...thwn i would know what this Khazarian thug baby cock sucking traitor wad talking about. If only....maybe next life.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Sociopaths are also a 'different species'.

Nothing has been achieved through hard work these last 200 years.  The truly great fortunes have been amassed via theft and fraud, smuggling drugs (alcohol during prohibition), financing both sides in a war, engineered panics, that sort of thing.

bloofer's picture

Your comment is kind of puzzling. I've had decades of involvement with the Jewish community, and I would venture to guess that something like 90% of Jews are borderline mentally retarded.

Some Jews are pretty good at rote memorization--which is what is mostly valued in that milieu--and sometimes you'll encounter some critical thinking or some other form of mental hygiene, but always directed along pre-determined lines.

You almost never see truly independent thought, problem-solving, skill (at anything), or the high level of engagement with objective reality needed to do this stuff.

Jews are overall probably mostly in the bottom half of the US population, in terms of intelligence. Frankly, I have found them to mostly be a very stupid people.

MSimon's picture

Not to worry. The Chinese are the Jews of the Orient.


So given the history of persecution what have the Jews done in response? Made a LOT of money. Money can buy your way out of bad situations. And infiltrated governments. That can head off trouble. For the Jews.


It is funny. The more the Jews are hated the more powerful they become. It is why I LOVE ZH. It is an incitement for Jews to become MORE powerful. That Hitler thing is still fresh to a people with 3 or 4 thousand years of history.

LetThemEatRand's picture

The average Jew becomes less powerful with the sociopathic antics of the Rothschilds and their ilk.  A few people who called themselves Catholics also did unspeakable things at one point in history.   As there are Jews who support the actions of the Neo-Con Zionist assholes who are currently fucking up the world, so were there Catholics who supported the actions of the insane killers who committed genocide in the Middle Ages.  Same old shit, different religion used to cover the war crimes.  And don't get me started on the fucking Saudis.

Calmyourself's picture

So far I like the new programming, waiting for the other shoe to drop of course..

LetThemEatRand's picture

 I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.

ebear's picture

that, plus opening the pod bay door.

acetinker's picture

I might say that persecution is a powerful motivator, but I won't.

There's been a symbiotic relationship between khazar and jew for a long, long time.  It works kinda like this;  The khazar exploits, and shares some of its spoils with the jew.  In return, the jew agrees to some degree of persecution, while blaming anyone but the khazar for it.

Keep in mind that none of this applies to the garden variety believer, but to their leaders.

Yeah funny, but not ha-ha funny.

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- - - - - - (not verified) MSimon Feb 11, 2016 9:19 PM



chinese are definetly not similar to jews, nor the koreans are

and jews do not become more powerful if they are more hated

they just becomew more hated


it only proves that jews do not belong in other societies and ruin every place they infect


right now in europe i would not even dare to say out openly that im of jewish descent

jews did so much horrible crimes, its only understandable why no one want to be with us

money can help, but there are things you can not buy with money

Killdo's picture

they would like you in Serbia. We traditioally get on well. I don't think they ruined Yugoslavia or Serbia in any way. The first time I ever heard of post WW2 anti-semitism was when I left Yugoslavia. Jews were respected when I lived there - it's Turks we hated