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"We Are Heading Into Anarchy": Official Says EU Will "Completely Break Down In 10 Days"

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Norwegian PM Erna Solberg doesn’t want to have to skirt her country’s responsibilities under the Geneva Convention and she doesn’t want to trample over human rights either, but she will if she has to.

"It is a force majeure proposals which we will have in the event that it all breaks down,” Solberg said, in an interview with Berlingske, describing new measures she believes Norway may have to take if Sweden buckles under the weight of the refugee influx which saw some 163,000 asylum seekers inundate the country last year.

Solberg is effectively prepared to turn everyone away and go into lockdown mode should everything fall apart completely, causing Europe to descend into some kind of lawless, Hobbesian, free-for-all.

If that sounds far-fetched or hyperbolic consider that on Thursday, EU migration commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos warned that the bloc has just 10 days to implement a plan that will bring about “tangible and clear results on the ground” or else “the whole system will completely break down.”

Avramopoulos also cautioned that a humanitarian crisis in Greece and in the Balkans is “very near.” Moves by countries to adopt ad hoc, state-specific measures to stem the flow are exacerbating the problem, the commissioner contends.

"We cannot continue to deal through unilateral, bilateral or trilateral actions; the first negative effects and impacts are already visible," he said. "We have a shared responsibility –- all of us -– towards our neighbouring states, both EU and non-EU, but also towards those desperate people."

By "the negative effects," of unilateral actions, Avramopoulos is likely referring to the bottlenecks that are leaving thousands stranded in the Balkans. The chokepoints are being pressured by a series of border fences that have been erected over the past six months and the problem is exacerbated by stepped up border checks. In short: we're witnessing the death of the bloc's beloved Schengen. 

"Seven European states have already reinstated border controls within the cherished but creaking Schengen free-travel zone, putting huge strain on Greece, which can no longer wave the tide of arrivals from Turkey onward through the Balkans," Reuters writes. Earlier today, Athens recalled its Austrian ambassador. "Greece will not accept unilateral actions. Greece can also carry out unilateral actions," migration minister, Yannis Mouzalas told reporters on Thursday. "Greece will not accept becoming Europe’s Lebanon, a warehouse of souls, even if this were to be done with major [EU] funding.” 

On March 7, officials will attend a summit with Turkey where buy in from Ankara is critical if there's to be meaningful reduction in the flow of asylum seekers to Western Europe. Leaked documents recently showed President Erdogan is essentially attempting to blackmail Europe. "We can open the doors to Greece and Bulgaria at any time. We can put them on busses," he was quoted as saying, during a conversation with European Commissioner Jean Claude Juncker and President of the European Council Donald Tusk on 16th November 2015 during the G20 Summit in Antalya.

In addition to the seven states that have already reinstated border checks, more countries have promised to follow suit unless Erdogan and Tsipras can figure out a way to make progress in defending the bloc's external border.

Officials fear the onset of spring will embolden still more migrants to make the journey as warmer weather will thaw the Balkan route. On Wednesday, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban called for a referendum on the propsed quota system that Brusells hoped would help distribute and place refugees. It's only a matter of time before other countries conduct similar plebiscites.

Perhaps Jean Asselborn, Luxembourg's foreign minister put it best: "The outlook is gloomy ... We have no policy any more. We are heading into anarchy."

Looks like Erna Solberg was right after all.

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Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:22 | 7235459 stant
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Well martin armstrong said around march 13/14th so let's see

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:26 | 7235485 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Stop trying to oust Assad.  Quit bombing Syria.  Send them all home.  Problem solved.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:28 | 7235499 froze25
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Very true, we need to side with Assad and end this madness before we get another Libya. Freaking idiots.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:30 | 7235513 Boris Alatovkrap
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"Before we are get another Libya"...?! Libya is pastoral vacation paradise compare to bomb out Syria.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:32 | 7235527 pods
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It's called chaos, not anarchy.  Those two words are NOT synonymous.


Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:34 | 7235528 Raymond K Hessel
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Honestly, I'm bored with the whole idea of the Middle East.

I say carpet bomb them like we did to Dresden but this time with nukes.

Fuck them. 


Be fucking honest. Don't be a cock. 

If the Middle East problems were nuked away yesterday, would you miss them today? 


Heil Hydra!

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:40 | 7235572 Orc from Mordor
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If the US problems had been nuked away long ago, nobody would miss you today, for sure.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:46 | 7235611 macholatte
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Renting some islands from Greece and putting the migrants on them while the situation gets sorted is way more inhumane than destroying your own culture and potentially creating a civil war.

How about this: Sheeple of the EU; go to Brussels and get your hands around the necks of the EU Parliament Members (except Nigel Farage) and haul them out into the street and tar & feather them.


Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:53 | 7235628 Manthong
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Anarchy is a bad thing only if you are defenseless.

...like .gov wants you to be.


(obviously .gov puke on the site)

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 15:57 | 7235656 Manthong
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>>> most hundreds of millions of people dead ..  government

>>> most hundreds of millions of people dead ..  anarchists


puke trolls.. plural.


Thu, 02/25/2016 - 16:00 | 7235694 Father Thyme
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Anarchists are bleeting morons.


A shallow-minded school of social philosophers, the anarchists, chose to ignore the matter by suggesting a stateless organization of mankind.
Ludwig von Mises
The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science


Because Mises was a "troll," dontchaknow.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 17:57 | 7236539 fx
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Distribute them, and they will come....

this eu-commissioner simply doesn't get it. As long as europe somehow manages to take in all these refugees ever more of them will come. Distribute a million allover the Eu and another million will arrive. Only if you stop this madness right in its tracks - and yes, that inevitably involves some very ugly scenes and human hardships - can a complete breakdown be avoided. These guys from Marocco and Algeria etc. need a clear message: you will get stuck somewhere in greece, serbia, macedonia , and for good. Only that will stop them. nothing else will.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 18:41 | 7236810 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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Is that that same fat bitch who also KNEW that her New Years resolution 'DIET' was on the verge of completely breaking down?


Time to get  a few more fat assed fucking TWATS in office to make this world GREAT again!... I'M READY FOR HILLARY... oh wait!!!


PS... Put down the donut ~ & slowly & carefully... BACK AWAY

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 19:20 | 7236937 BLOTTO
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The problem will NOT be solved until the SATANISTS who have hijacked, perverted and hoodwinked this society since day 1 - are fuckin taken out.


Or should we go vote and lose again for the 1 MILLIONTH time...


And out of the chaos - comes 'their' order.

Then the real pain comes.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 19:52 | 7237117 Kissy Ass
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All real enterprising Americans should move to Cuba! NOW! We'll create an enclave.


Thu, 02/25/2016 - 21:42 | 7237621 eforce
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The race war is to cover the advance from OWO to NWO, The Protocols says this.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 22:59 | 7237933 CheapBastard
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Maybe Norway should work a little harder to stop the cause of the refugee migration; namely, bombing the crap out of the middle east. Norway and sweden have their Nobel prize winner to thank for lots of it.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 07:26 | 7238670 Villageidiot777
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Looking at this "refugee" mess, I have started to wonder why Hitler is considered being bad.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 09:26 | 7238926 French Bloke
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I'm not at all sure what the Greeks are bleating at. They could have controlled their external borders and they have a pretty large navy and could have turned the migrants all back to Turkey. Instead, they chose to welcome them all in thinking the EU would take them all relentlessly. Ha Ha Ha to Greece. Serves you right for trying to flood the rest of us! If you have any sense at all you should send them all back to Turkey without whom their plight would never have been necessary. This is a Turkish created problem. Syria didn't ask for Western intervention.

Greece - First, you are bankrupt. Now you have 10's of 1000's of additional people you can't feed in addition to your own. Serves you bloody right!


Edit - And you didn't have to vote in a bloody Communist. If Golden Dawn were elected, I bet this wouldn't be happening...

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 09:22 | 7238923 justinius1969
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David Bowie, Ozzie osbourne and the Beatles all came from Britain. Hitler from Austria Stalin from Russia and I think bell bottom jeans originated from the US. 

Hopefully the UK will have less to do with Europe come the 23 June 2016.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 10:50 | 7239255 Freddie
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Stalin was from Georgia. 

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 22:56 | 7237925 Pickleton
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Is that just the "real" ones or can the "fakes" come?

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 19:55 | 7237137 Farqued Up
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The only thing I got out of voting was a little circular pastie with "I voted" on it. November, I shall get me some printed "You Voted?".

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 21:42 | 7237619 Occams_Chainsaw
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Going in and casting a ballot is akin to dropping a note in the suggestion box for slaves.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 18:53 | 7236867 debtor of last ...
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Correct fx. Trying to dillute those fuckers like fiat currency ain't gonna work this time.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 01:24 | 7238357 Gold Eyed Cat
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I have a policy that keeps my home from becoming cluttered.  For every new piece of furniture I bring in, something old has to go out.  This would also work exceedingly well for immigration.  For every new immigrant that enters the country, one politician must then be exiled.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 16:03 | 7235719 Strelnikov
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I resemble that remark.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 16:06 | 7235731 Manthong
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Shoot high.. stateless.. 

Settle for Bastiat, Locke, Smith, Washington, Jefferson .et al.

Don't cha know.........

and I think el Ludbow was talking about bomb throwers.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 16:11 | 7235779 Manthong
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Politics  = economics  = politics

..put any politician in there and you are pretty much F’d.


Thu, 02/25/2016 - 16:17 | 7235822 Father Thyme
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Government is most necessary for civilization.


Government as such is not only not an evil, but the most necessary and beneficial institution, as without it no lasting social cooperation and no civilization would be possible.
Ludwig von Mises
The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 16:43 | 7235982 Manthong
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..the tribes in Mesopotamia and the Mediteranean coastal regions figured out farming and were pretty much ok before the King of Babylon..

.... ever since then kings, tyrants, emporers and other gov wrecked stuff until the founders figured out how to minimize the damage.

.... that is the goal.  minimize the damage that corrupting power causes.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 17:16 | 7236236 Father Thyme
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Tribes (non-state society) didn't do agricuture; they got their food as foragers (hunter/gatherers.) Agriculture is a practice of Civilization, i.e., State society.

What you are is an emotional primitivist. You want to go back to the simple ways of non-state society. A short excerpt from a famous anthropology text will help you understand:

State and Non-State Society
Microsoft Word Document (31.0 KB)

Look for the key phrase: "intent on reinventing." That's you. You're trying to reinvent non-state tribes with your anarachism. You'd be better off being a primitivist and praying for the end of civilization, and "re-wilding" while you wait. At least the primitivists understand history.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rewilding(anarchism)

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 17:52 | 7236476 Manthong
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As long as we are into understanding things..

Try going toe–to- toe with this guy…


or try this on for size...



Thu, 02/25/2016 - 17:57 | 7236576 Father Thyme
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I'm well familiar with Stefan, and have actually refered to him in my comments on ZH about things he gets right (well, sorta) such as r/K selection.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 19:06 | 7236911 stacking12321
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conflating civilization and the state is a foolish mistake, there is no basis for this comment:

"Agriculture is a practice of Civilization, i.e., State society. What you are is an emotional primitivist. You want to go back to the simple ways of non-state society."

people will naturally organize into societies, and complexity will naturally increase in society when it is operating with an abundance (adequate resources and lack of robber-barons).

agriculture is something people will always do to survive, and they will do it more efficiently without interference from the state (regulation, subsidies, etc)

society and civilization have nothing at all to do with the state, the state is an impediment to civilized society, not something that supports it.


Thu, 02/25/2016 - 19:47 | 7237088 Father Thyme
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conflating civilization and the state is a foolish mistake

Alright then, you show me a single Civilization in history that did not have State-level politics, i.e., "government."  

Hint: you can't. (And I'm well familiar with the attempts to claim Iceland or the Wild West as an example. (Go on, name those, and I'll destroy that foolish mistake.)

Which is why Mises said that government is necessary to civilization:

Government as such is not only not an evil, but the most necessary and beneficial institution, as without it no lasting social cooperation and no civilization would be possible.
Ludwig von Mises
The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science, p. 98



Thu, 02/25/2016 - 20:50 | 7237430 ThirdWorldDude
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It's clear as a day that every community, no matter how civilized, must find a good way to bring forward fast and wise decisions on common issues, that's also what Mises says. Though, the crux of the problem is whether decision makers decide for the betterment of themselves or of the whole community and what other community members can do to remove a corrupt/criminal representative. Another problem is that in huge communities like countries 95% of the inhabitants are at the margins of the decision making center and usually without practical instruments to directly effect the decision making.

Anarchists want those barriers taken down to the level of "skinning" the entire government apparatus. Depending on beliefs (generally syndicalists or capitalists) there are differences regarding the outlook of decision making, but generally in anarchy everybody has a right to decide for himself and the entire community. No taxation, no representation!

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 00:33 | 7238254 The Grim Teacher
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The peoples and tribes of Zomia....



Fri, 02/26/2016 - 08:27 | 7238782 Father Thyme
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I've got the book; it's a good read.  Another really informative book, especially regarding how European climate/terrain affected politics towards more individual autonomy is Cannibals and Kings: Origins of Cultures by Marvin Harris.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 10:12 | 7239105 Ghordius
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+1 Father Thyme. interesting links, thanks   /bob

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 17:47 | 7236486 Oxbo Rene
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Bottle em all up, send em to Wall Street ....

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 17:53 | 7236540 fleur de lis
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"re-wilding" -- That's a good one!

Actually they've been doing that in academia for years. Walk onto any campus -- students and teachers alike look like your average hobo.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 22:57 | 7237929 Pickleton
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"Tribes (non-state society) didn't do agricuture;"


Tell that to the American Indian, buffoon.

Thu, 02/25/2016 - 23:30 | 7238049 Father Thyme
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Many American Indians were non-agricultural tribes. Natives involved in agriculture are recognized by anthropologists as civilization.

Rather than foaming at the mouth, you might try reading some history, e.g.:

Mayan Civilization

Aztec Civilization

The Coosa city-states, in western Georgia, and the Caddoan-speaking civilization, centered on the Texas-Arkansas border, disintegrated soon after Soto appeared. The Caddo had had a taste for monumental architecture: public plazas, ceremonial platforms, mausoleums.


Fri, 02/26/2016 - 01:11 | 7238332 undertow1141
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Anasazi and Pueblo indians both used agiculture and were tribal civilizations.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 07:15 | 7238639 Father Thyme
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"Tribal Civilizations"

Never go full retard. Jesus, the stupid is strong here. Maybe crack open a book once? LOL! Ok...how about wiki?

Thus, foragers as an economic type tend to have band organization. Similarly, many pastoralists and horticulturalists have lived in tribal societies or, more simply, tribes. While most chiefdoms had farming economies, herding was important in some of the Middle Eastern chiefdoms. The non-industrial states usually had an agricultural base. With food production come the larger, denser populations and more complex economies than are found among foragers. New regulatory problems were created by these features and that gave rise to more complex relations and linkages.
    foragers (hunter-gatherer): band society
    horticulture: tribe
    pastoralism: chiefdom
    agriculture: state

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 09:25 | 7238935 TuPhat
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Do you even understand what you are saying?  You contradict yourself over and over.  Why post on ZH? You can't convince anyone of your drivel when you can't get it right yourself.

Fri, 02/26/2016 - 10:34 | 7239199 Father Thyme
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Point out a contradiction. Go on, try, halfwit.

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