US Government 'Asks' Tech Companies To Tweak Algos, Promote Certain Content

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

You probably had no idea, but representatives from Silicon Valley, Hollywood and the U.S. government came together earlier this week to privately discuss how they could jointly fight ISIS propaganda online. Never mind the fact that ISIS is the child of reckless and inhumane preemptive wars of aggression perpetrated by the U.S. government. Such introspection naturally never crosses the mind of government bureaucrats ostensibly attempting to understand the epic disasters they created in the first place.

So who attended the meeting? We don’t know for sure because the plebes aren’t entitled to know such things. Fortunately, we have become privy to some information thanks to Buzzfeed News. Here’s what we learned:

WASHINGTON, D.C. — They flew in from New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles to hole up in a windowless D.C. conference room for nearly five hours on Wednesday — representatives of the country’s top tech and entertainment companies brainstorming with U.S. counterterrorism officials to tackle one tough question: how to stop the spread of ISIS online.

 

The standoff between Apple and the FBI did not come up during the meeting, though the issues it involves are at the heart of the very things being discussed. As the role of technology in our lives continues its explosive growth, how will the balance between privacy and security play out in the new Silicon Valley-D.C. relationship?

 

Among the handful of Arab participants who took part in Wednesday’s event, the questions raised felt even greater.

 

“They wanted to figure out how to fight ISIS online, how to understand the psychology of those who support ISIS, and they invited almost no one who speaks for those of us in the Arab world, and from Arab communities, who have everything to lose from ISIS’s growing popularity,” said one Arab attendee, who estimated that less than 10% of the attendants were of Middle Eastern descent. “They don’t understand this community. That has been proven time and time again with their tone deaf messages. Why hold an event like this where there are ten white men outnumbering every Arab?”

 

The lack of voices from the Middle East at the event was raised repeatedly, with one attendee garnering applause when they asked why — in a discussion regarding ISIS’s appeal to young Arab-American Muslims — there was no one speaking to their appeal from within that community.

This is what happens when people fail upward and you have a country run by a cadre of incompetent, corrupt and clueless “elites.”

Other media outlets, who were leaked a list of attendees, revealed that Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, Google, Mediacom, and Edelman were among those attending from Hollywood and Silicon Valley. In a statement, the Department of Justice noted that Assistant Attorney General for National Security John Carlin, U.S. Chief Technology Officer Megan Smith, and Senior Director for Counterterrorism on the National Security Council Staff Jen Easterly all took part in the meeting.

Now here’s the most disturbing revelation.

Over the last year, the government has stepped up its overtures to Silicon Valley, meeting with tech executives in January on the subject of combatting ISIS online. The Department of Defense has opened an office in the San Francisco area, and the State Department has recently appointed its first representative to Silicon Valley. Tech executives who have met with the Pentagon team told BuzzFeed News that some of their requests have been “jarring.” In at least one case, the Pentagon spoke with several companies — who asked not to be named as a condition of discussing the meeting with BuzzFeed News — about tweaking their algorithms to promote certain types of content. Both Google and Facebook have made it clear that they would not make changes to their algorithms to bury results supportive of ISIS.

May as well just call it the Department of Propaganda. Truly unbelievable.

“That’s something that is always brought up in meetings. And it shows how little they understand us,” said the Google representative. “This is a Pandora’s box we won’t open, because if we answer a request by the U.S. government to feature one search result over another, what’s to stop other countries from requesting the same? What’s to stop each country from tailoring the search results of their citizens to their agenda? It’s not a path we are willing to explore.”

Read that again. It’s always brought up at meetings. Perfect example of why Apple needs to be supported in its battle with the FBI. The U.S. government wants nothing short of total control. See:

Video of the Day – John McAfee Proclaims “An Apple Backdoor is the End of America”

As the Apple vs. FBI Debate Rages, Congress Plots to Mandate Encryption Backdoors

Apple Vows to Defend Its Customers as the FBI Launches a War on Privacy and Security

At its core, said many attendees, the issue was the basic distrust the tech and entertainment companies have for the government, which has been amplified by the unprecedented attempt to force Apple to help the FBI break into an encrypted phone and the strong stance taken by tech companies including Google, Microsoft, and Facebook to stand behind Apple.

“It’s like you’ve been asked to partner up and dance with the bully at school who keeps trying to trip you in the hallways,” one attendee told BuzzFeed News after the event. “And even though you want to learn to dance, there isn’t a lot of trust to build on.”

America: This is Your Government.

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JustObserving's picture

They wanted to figure out how to fight ISIS online

Please, it is well established that America and its allies founded and funded ISIS and still fund it today:

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/08/usa-turkey-and-israel-act-as-air-...

The US arming of ISIS

While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html

Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-19/81-syrians-believe-us-blame-isi...

38BWD22's picture

 

 

It's beginning to look like we all should learn some encryption.  

"Multiple points of defense"  Hard to nail just one party (Apple the latest) if there were LOTS of encrypted communications, even if not that robust.

knukles's picture

O'Barry said ISIS was defeated, so why bother with a few ISIS related trolls on-line?

Paveway IV's picture

"...Fortunately, we have become privy to some information thanks to Buzzfeed News..."

Buzzfeed? The company that Comcast through their NBCUniversal lackeys essentially bought er... 'invested in' at an amount equal to 2x Buzzfeed's annual revenue? Yeah, like Buzzfeed wouldn't promote or supress content at the behest of Comcast's corporate psychopaths. Anyhoo...

"...Both Google and Facebook have made it clear that they would not make changes to their algorithms to bury results supportive of ISIS..."

Why, Google and Facebook are absolute HEROS of liberty, justice and free speech! <sarc> Google and Facebook are, in fact, evil deceptive fuckers. Kind of like how Twitter and YouTube insisted that they were big on free speech, until they took down any site suspected of belonging to ISIS sympathizers. They did this to protect us from bad things. ITS FOR OUR OWN PROTECTION, DAMN IT!

The CIA's Facebook may not take down ISIS accounts, but they have a bizzare and heavy-handed brand of censorship that makes one scratch their heads (providing ISIS hasn't taken it yet):

Hours Before Paris Terror Attack, Facebook Stopped Anonymous From Exposing ISIS Recruiters

Thanks, Two-faced book. There are thousands of reasons Facebook censors and promotes content. A simple Google search yields 22 million hits for "facebook censorship". Looks like a lot of fellow tin-foil-hat nutters out there! I'm not sure because Facebook sucks and I never use it.

Google itself is a bit more of a mysterious animal because everything they do is even more secret than Facebook. You have no idea what search results they are censoring, demoting or promoting. Even so, Googling "google censorship" only brings back 16 million hits (but some are results are probably censored - the bastards!)

Google and Facebook making any claim about not manipulating their searches or content is like a pedophile telling you he will "...definitely not molest THAT child..." (pointing out a single one in a crowded playground). Is that suppose to comfort us somehow? How fucking stupid do Google and Facebook think we are? (57 million hits if you Google that) 

mkkby's picture

The tech companies are so full of shit.  They ALREADY allow search results to go to the highest bidder.  All the pentagon has to do is open their check book.

Instead, they tried to get the search results they wanted for free.  Obviously that wasn't gonna fly.

Eeyores Enigma's picture

But but but technolology is what will save us all. Its why we don't have to worry about anything thats happening all around us.

Allen_H's picture

They are all out to fuck us, every media and tech company is aimed at distracting, spying, misleading and a whole range of other things. The goal is our demise by ourselves.

Amicus Curiae's picture

+++ nailed it neatly as usual :-)

Demdere's picture

ISIS is mostly excuse.  As soon as they have those biases built into google, et al., then they turn the spotlight on 'domestic terrorists'.  We are the ultimate targets, ISIS is a springboard to power, not a threat to it.

We are the threat.

freewolf7's picture

I'm supposed to believe Google and Facebook?

philipat's picture

The easiest way to stop the spread of ISIS is to stop funding it. Then all the refugees can go home as well, solving several problems at the same time. There you go Pentagon, fixed it for ya....

too_big_to_fail's picture

What was not said is that the US GOV asked Google to tweak the videos and pages from Youtube and Google for WW3, NWO, New World Order, Economic collapse, Dollar Collapse, Negative interest rates.

I have been searching these on youtube for over a year, and in the last few months the videos and news articles have disapeared.

ISIS my ass, It is censorship about what is really going on. NWO used to be 5k-10k videos per month, now virtually none. Freedom of speach my ass, we will let you see what we want you to see, and private companies be dammed, follow orders or else.

gatorengineer's picture

Lots of content is disappearing....

 

. . . _ _ _ . . .'s picture

We need a search engine that will display Google hits, but backwards.

Allen_H's picture

I also noticed this, I would go into my history and there were always a few that had that content gone on them. The mother fuckers are starting to push hard for their end game now. Our end that is.

knukles's picture

Good point.  I've started getting my news from the Huffington Post.

Dr. Spin's picture

I've started getting my news from the Puffington Host.

FTFY,

;-D   

Truth Eater's picture

Its real easy to figure this one out.  Want to stop ISIS?  Nuke Erdogan and his supporters.  Wipe out Saudi Arabia and the bands overruning Libya.  Let Russia finish off the savages in Syria and Iraq.  Expel all muslims from western countries.

 

And guess what!  No more ISIS or muslim problems.

uhland62's picture

Why stop ISIS? Without a threat there is no more money for the military industrial complex.

It may actually be better to let ISIS cook because if you were to eliminate them, it would be the threat from China that would take pride of centre place. That's is not a fight that we can win, and therefore letting ISIS simmer is the lesser evil. It also means that it attracts undesirables from all over the world where they can be better eliminated. I rather abstain from a comment about Erdogan, but nuking means to contaminate a place for a long time and then more Turks would come to Germany. The alliance could become dysfunctional with millions of Turks fleeing a contaminated area. He ought to pushed off the perch with less longlasting damage.  

Demdere's picture

How about we don't do anything, just bring the troops home, dock the carriers and destoryers, let the world take care of itself for a while?

We have never yet known the right thing to do, it isn't going to start now.  Doing no wrong would be a hell of an improvement.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Obama has spent the last seven years cleaning out the General officer corps of the politically incorrect, the politically unreliable, and the politically undesirable. We've got a (literal) faggot in charge of the Army, and a Secretary of the Navy who has spent the better part of a decade striving to float the world's first navy without actual ships. Should we be at all surprised that the wide variety of defense department intelligence agencies might have been similarly "repurposed" in such a way to undermine the interests of the American people?

The Pentagon is going to be a very busy place for the next 11 months.

HRH of Aquitaine's picture
HRH of Aquitaine (not verified) Buckaroo Banzai Feb 27, 2016 7:59 PM

The last time I checked the oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies didn't have an end date. Just sayin.

gatorengineer's picture

Just like the oath Barry took right?

conscious being's picture

Of course Barry, the Manchurian Candidate was never going to take his oath seriously. The others must be doing some Sun Tzu form of resisting.

VWAndy's picture

The tech companies will hand it over. If they havent already.

buzzsaw99's picture

please. the gubbermint has offices at both companies already.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

What I find despicable is that Google, Apple, and Microsoft have been rolling over for the Feds for 15 years.

Now, all of a sudden, they grow a spine when the Feds come to them about ISIS? Why would anyone want to protect ISIS?

Either they are all getting terrible PR advice, or...they are protecting ISIS.

 

MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

Or this is Act II of an elaborate show.

Demdere's picture

ISIS is whatever the US needs as an enemy today.  ISIS is a name more than a reality. ISIS is no threat to you and me.

Our own government, otoh, oh yes, our government is a threat to us, and it is getting closer to gulag every gd year.  When was the last big step back toward Freedom, away from totalitarian rule?  Supreme Court wins on gun rights were the last time we stopped the bastards, rolled it back a bit, but that didn't do a lot, and more restrictions were passed everywhere.

More encroachments and more deaths every year.  More surveillance and more powerful military presences over Americans every year.  More SWAT teams, weights and measures has one I think.  Insanity.

Forget protecting ISIS.  To the extent that they are doing anything, which I doubt is more than making the walls on their gardens higher, they are protecting you and me.  ISIS can take care of itself.

 

cheeseheader's picture

Probably, and Eric (the Red) Schmitt has his partners desk just off the Oval office.  If there is just one private citizen I could....

buzzsaw99's picture

facebook and google tell the gubbermint that if they want the info they have to pay like everyone else.

WTFRLY's picture

FUCKIN JOO WORLD ORDER, NONE OTHER

iAmerican's picture

It isn't "our government," it's the Gog/Babylon pedophile homosexual Talmud false-Jew and papist Christ killers' "Beast" faction brought to us, here in Isaiah's actual prophesied "Israel," via Vatican banker-intermediaries Rothschild/Rockefeller, Organized Crime assassins and FedScammers.

blue51's picture

Too late.." The Goyim Know"     Isis... bwaaaahaahaa

HRH of Aquitaine's picture
HRH of Aquitaine (not verified) Feb 27, 2016 7:56 PM

A Saudi owns 1/3 of Twatter's stock and Suckerdouche is a globalist.

SixIsNinE's picture

hey, suckerdouche rewarded the FartBase with a whole bevy of emoticons recently so they can be more in tune with gauging public sentiments ....

and it also makes inroads to the China model to rank and rate citizens as to their "likeability" score similar to how our "credit" score allows us loans - this ranking allows travel perks and other nifty treats and penalties for the lumpen proles

ThroxxOfVron's picture

<--- Insertion fees 

<--- No bid white elephant

ThroxxOfVron's picture

<--- Adblock block plus

<--- De-browsered crypto exchanges

SixIsNinE's picture

speaking of... anyone with opinions of the Palemoon browser?

apparently they've just made a major upgrade to version 26 which gives a real fork in the road from firefox .... i think i'll try it out ..

 

Seek_Truth's picture

I tried Palemoon.

It needs a lot more development.

Firefox- until something better is developed.

Dr. Spin's picture

Been using Pale Moon forever.  Love it.

Lmo Mutton's picture

Wow.  Propaganda from the propagandists discussing possible propoganda options.  WTFO?

XRAYD's picture

We are ALL China now!

indio007's picture

Theater, nothing but theater.

SixIsNinE's picture

agreed - more and more the Apple/FBI publicity is more likely a stunt aimed to boost lagging sales...

check out the competition from China / SE Asia now : http://www.tomtop.com/activity/20160218_UMI.html?aid=CRM0227

that's a current TomTop site ad for their octacore phones with 13mp front camera and 5mp back ...

4G + HD 1080x720 5.5"  for $109    -  i think that's a HELLUVA lot better deal than any Apple iPhone offering by far. 

djsmps's picture

It's the recruiting for the STOP TRUMP NOW campaign.

earleflorida's picture

Bush #43 ::     2002-03   'We don't need anyones permission (europe/russia and most of the world) to invade IRAQ (or anyone else?)!'

i've embellished the the POV for a dramatic response...regarding King George II

Adolf Hitler ::      1939-37  "The Victor will not be asked Later whether he has Spoken the 'TRUTH or NOT'!"

this is when the 'WAR on TERROR' will make Stalin's Communism, Hitler's Nazis, and Mussolini's Fascism a triple-layer cake`walk with America Frost'tinged as [a]moral-ballast of Plutocracy... metastasizing Moral Absolution v. Moral Relativism v.  Moral  Nilihism in a everending 'MANICHAEAN MYTHOLOGY lost in the 20th century?!?    

AriusArmenian's picture

Fact of the matter is that the CIA has been deeply imbedded in many of these companies from their beginning. Many were startups for the CIA. Oracle, for instance, established itself by getting the contract to implement a relational database for the CIA. Inside Oracle there is a secret CIA division that you will only find out about by working for Oracle for several years.

I read these reports on Apple and other high tech firms standing up to the government and defending our privacy as a kind of sick joke played on the gullible ignorant public. The government wants back doors? They have had all the back doors they could ever want for years.

This is all kabuki to make you believe in a reality that doesn't exist.

PoasterToaster's picture
PoasterToaster (not verified) AriusArmenian Feb 27, 2016 10:00 PM

Yep.  There is also a hardware tunnel into all Intel CPU's for "out of band communication".  So in essence, the software fracas in the media is a distraction on more than one level.