Former UK Ambassador To Syria: US/UK Foreign Policy Is Doomed, Even Corrupt

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Authored by Eric Zuesse,

Peter Ford, who was the UK’s Ambassador in Syria during 2003-2006, was asked by the BBC in their “The Big Questions” interview on February 14th, whether the current Syrian President Bashar al-Assad would have to be a part of the solution in that country after the war is over, and Ambassador Ford said:

“I think sadly, but inevitably, he is. Realistically, Assad is not going to be overthrown. This becomes more clear with every day that passes. Western analysts have been indulging in wishful thinking for 5 years; it’s time to get real, we owe it to the Syrian people to be much more realistic and hard headed about this. The West has to stop propping up the so-called ‘moderate opposition’, which is not moderate at all.”

This was quoted by Almasdar News on February 18th, which went on to note that,

"The frustrated interviewer asked Mr. Ford about 'what we should have done,' and he responded that 'we should have backed off, we should have not tried to overthrow the regime.' Mr. Ford eloquently added that this policy has been 'like a dog returning to vomit.’”

The video of the interview below showed him making that statement in this context:


The interviewer was clearly anti-Assad, and Ford responded with evident anger by noting (starting at 2:55 on the video) the shocking fact that:

“In Aghanistan, Iraq, Libya, like a dog returning to vomit, we go back to [and the audience already was started to clap here], we never saw a secular Arab regime that we didn’t want to overthrow.”

He was saying there that we support only non-secular regimes, sectarian regimes, in Arabia, this meaning fundamentalist Sunni governments — especially Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, the very same regimes that even the U.S. Secretary of State acknowledged in a 2009 cable that was wikileaked, are the chief regimes that are funding Al Qaeda, ISIS and other jihadist groups. Ford was noting that the United States and UK strive to keep in power those governments, the ones that are led by royal families that supply the bulk of funding for jihadist groups — jihadists who perpetrate terrorism in the United States and Europe. “We never saw a secular  Arab regime that we didn’t want to overthrow”: Ambassdor Ford was so bold as to imply that our governments are supporting, under the table, the very same ruling families that they know to be funding (as that cable only vaguely referred to them) “Sunni terrorist groups worldwide” (which includes in Western countries, too).

The BBC’s interviewer ignored that statement; he wasn’t struck by it, such as to ask: “Why are we supporting the chief funders of Islamic jihad? Why are we overthrowing (or in Syria are trying to overthrow) a secular regime, against which we join foreign jihadist groups in order to overthrow that non-sectarian regime; why are these dogs, as you call the U.S. and UK, returning time and again to that vomit?”

This was a live interview program, and so the BBC censors weren’t able to eliminate Ambassador Ford’s responses from the interview; but, instead, the interviewer did his best to interrupt and to talk over Ford’s shocking — and shockingly truthful — assertions about the government (ours) that supposedly represent our  interests (and not the interests of Western oil companies etc.). Ford will probably not be invited again to be on live television in the West to air his views about Syria.

Ford’s evident anger at what’s going on, and at the media’s resistance to letting the public know about the reality, appeared to reach near to the edge of his blurting out that ulterior motives have to be behind this addiction to “vomit” — but he was a professional diplomat, and so he was able to restrain himself there.

The U.S. Secretary of State who had specifically requested the fundamentalist-Islamic Arab ‘allies’ to stop funding terrorism was Hillary Clinton, the leading candidate now contending for the Democratic Party’s Presidential nomination. Here she was, expressing her current view regarding Syria, in a recent debate against her Democratic Party opponent, Senator Bernie Sanders:

QUESTIONER: In respect to when you take out Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Right now or do you wait? Do you tackle ISIS first? You have said, Secretary Clinton, that you come to the conclusion that we have to proceed on both fronts at once. We heard from the senator just this week that we must put aside the issue of how quickly we get rid of Assad and come together with countries, including Russia and Iran, to destroy ISIS first. Is he wrong?


CLINTON: I think we're missing the point here. We are doing both at the same time.


QUESTIONER: But that's what he's saying, we should put that aside for now and go after ISIS.


CLINTON: Well, I don't agree with that.

She's still (now after five years, and even though she knows  that we’re supporting jihadist-backing Arabic royal families and their Shariah-law regimes) comes back to that “vomit”: that "we never saw a secular Arab regime that we didn’t want to overthrow.” She’s an example of this addiction, to that “vomit.”

She does this even though, in October 2014, the man who had collected the mega-donations to Al Qaeda (all of which had been in cash) had detailed, under oath, in a U.S. court proceeding, that the Saud family were the main people who paid the “salaries” of the 9/11 terrorists. The Saud family are now the chief backers of the overthrow-Assad campaign. Do politicians such as Clinton actually represent the Sauds? It’s not only the Bush family who do.

What’s exhibited here is a double-scandal: first, that a person such as that would even be a Democratic Party candidate for the U.S. Presidency (and Jeb Bush shares Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy prescriptions, though he’s virtually certain not  to win the Republican Presidential nomination); and, second, that the Western press try to avoid, as much as possible, to expose the fact that this is, indeed, “vomit,” and avoid to explain to their audience the very corrupt governmental and news-media system that enables people such as Ms. Clinton to become and remain a leading Presidential candidate in the United States. Clearly, a person like that isn’t qualified to be in government at all; she’s corrupt, or else incredibly stupid. And no one thinks she’s that stupid. But lots of people accuse her of being corrupt.

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of  They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of  CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.


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nmewn's picture

See here's the thing, having a Britain (or a Frenchy politician more accurately) lecture me about Syria's inherent cultural problems is like having an Arab lecture me about Christianity.

They created the POS after the Ottoman (Turkey) Empire fell, fuck them, take Hillary! over there and fix it!

She's really REALLY smart ;-)


MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

She can set up their email server for them too.

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch Mar 5, 2016 12:53 AM

Killing people for a Saudi pipeline to strongarm the Russians into neoliberal "globalization" of their resources is immoral???

Manthong's picture

John Kirby.. ex Navy …  really bad hair dye job..

It worked for Saddam.. it worked for Reagan..

It does not work for him or Kerry.


 oh, and nmewn…

I would pay several ounces to watch a certain  POS political twat stuffed like a turkey.


Manthong's picture

oh yeah WTF really  ??

So sad how this crap is playing out.

WordSmith2013's picture

Syria is literally being set up to be Armageddon.
The NWO crowd will have their way ... one way or another.

The Levant and Armageddon, Syria and World War III
y3maxx's picture

""Syria is literally being set up to be Armageddon.
The NWO crowd will have their way ... one way or another.""

...According to this vid.....Europe is being set up to become Armageddon...

Shocking vid of many thousands of migrants streaming into & across Europe...

RevIdahoSpud3's picture

Coming to the US. But what drives multiculturalism? What is the end goal? Do the NWO planners believe a world population of brown is easier to subjugate, control?

blindman's picture

it is about the authority of abstract money. multi language,
culture, philosophy societies can't muster coherent opposition
the the functional advantages of the authority. money becomes
so fundamental, more essential than even language. no?

radiobomb's picture

the uniforms, so classic...[uk sold desert uniforms to iraq prior to 1st episode]... so where did these uniforms come from ?

OldPhart's picture

According to the dweeb in the video, you comment would read:

Killing people for a Thaudi pipeline to throngarm the Ruthians into neoliberal "globalithation" of their rethources ith immoral?


[as an early dweeb, I once also had a pronounced lisp.  A couple of years with Mr. Stabstab (real name) and I could contain my tongue (I could lick my eyebrows).  He knew I was done when I could thay his name, ThtabThtab.]

Edit: And what evil genious defined the impediment as a 'lisp'?  Those afflicted can't even name their affliction, "I have a lithp.  You may not underthand me."

Element's picture

Couple of good pieces on here today at least, bit of a change for a weekend.

BaghdadBob's picture

nmewn, you really are a fucking idiot

Sleepless Knight's picture

Finally, sound thinking and solid reasoning, But I fear it's coming from a walking dead man. We shall see.

City_Of_Champyinz's picture

That was one hell of a lisp for a diplomat assigned to the middle east...remind you of anyone Hillary knew quite well?  Before she didn't?

JustObserving's picture

The Nobel Prize Winner's illegal war in Syria has killed over 300,000 and wounded over 1,000,000 and created over 8 million refugees. We learnt nothing from Iraq where 3.3 million people were killed from 1990 to 2012.  

The Nobel Prize Winner also lied about Assad's use of sarin to almost get a major war started.

Hillary is a psychopath who was delighted by the gruesome death of Gaddafi. 

The US is beholden to the constant war policy of the Neocons to serve Israeli interests in the Middle-East.  That policy is not likely to change and people in the Middle-East will continue to die while the US pretends its bringing democracy to millions of poor, medieval people.

The US founded and funded ISIS and funds it today


George Carlin on American Foreign Policy - Bombing Brown People


US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS

The US arming of ISIS

While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.

Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS

Tasty Sandwich's picture

You never tell us whose laws you're going by.


Jstanley011's picture

The stupid makes me ill, literally.

Omen IV's picture

That's why they call it - The Clinton / Bush Establishment Party

jcdenton's picture

Let's just call it what is really, and truly is ..



The DVD .. (not Digital Video Disc, or even Deutsche Vereinigung für Datenschutz)


Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst


GHWB is the provisional head. The Clintons are his minions ..

oncemore's picture

your comment is utter BS, but why do you not write it correctly: DEUTSCHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ..........

The Dogs of Moar's picture

Having elected Bush for two terms and then electing Obama for a two terms,  it looks like the American voter also returned to vomit

Main_Sequence's picture
Main_Sequence (not verified) The Dogs of Moar Mar 5, 2016 7:03 AM

This is assuming that Presidents are democratically elected, and not 'selected' which is the case.  "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes." -Stalin

new game's picture

go to walmart and look around. that is who elects our reps. any misunderstanding of the outcome

and further reseach needed? ok, then visit our public union run schools. ok, not convienced yet?

drive around or take a walk in any neighborhood usa after dark and look inside windows to see merica watching idol, or other non-sense.

at this point you will clearly understand that merica has become a nation of dumb fucks that don't even know their own constitution, have no clue what the federal reserve is and don't even know the branches of the gov..

and with moar flooding in, folks it is hopeless...

it is no wonder to me hilda cunt beast is a contender

poeg's picture

Walmart? Given the choice between a turd sandwich or a toasted turd sandwich, its the voter's fault every word coming out of Washington hints of truckstop toilet?

Kayman's picture

I think he meant the dog returned to eat his (own) vomit.

Best parallel to regime change in the Middle East.

Bomb angry tribes in the Middle East to encourage them to become peaceful people. Sounds like a solid line-your-own-pockets never-ending plan.

No wonder so many are lighting their hair on fire.


True Blue's picture

Kipling homage referring to 'The Gods of the Copybook Headings'

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Cochore's picture

It's a quote from the Bible - "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly." Proverbs 26:11 (KJV) or as rendered in the more recent translations, "As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly."

Oldwood's picture

Truly intelligent people would be constantly reassessing circumstances and results to ensure some reasonable level of success. What we are witnessing is either the height of stupidity or an incredibly successful agenda. In either case we are fucked....the world is fucked. If only it was simple war mongers, but unfortunately they are the useful idiots.

new game's picture

has it become tyme to say "i'm from canada just visiting your wonderfully fucked up country"?

Motasaurus's picture

Cool video. It's a real shame the only nation we're ever likely to use them on has spent the last sixty years in a deep state of (justified) paranoia that we would do exactly that and has built multiple systems, each better than the last, perfectly capable of not only tracking, but intercepting and destroying any and all incoming ballistic missiles.

onmail1's picture

West never understands the woes of others

unless it suffers itself

I think rest of the world should come together

and fund, arm & support rebels & militia within west


jcdenton's picture

I guess it is now appropriate ..


To comment here ..

Watch this ..

Now watch this ..

The guy (bearded) in the background between the speaker (Gordon) and the Syrian Minister of Justice is Mike Harris ..

Now view this ..

Second photo. That is Mike Harris looking over the shoulder of Syrian Minister of Justice. The guy in the foreground is Syrian Military Intelligence ..

I figure you can gather your own context from all this. I need not comment any further ..

Tasty Sandwich's picture

So, what do you want me to do about it then?

jcdenton's picture

Nothing honestly ..


You are probably not capable to begin with. Better not to have children playing with matches. Chances are they are going to burn something down ..

Which way to the beach's picture

The system unfortunately is designed to promote asshats like Cameron and the rest of the pond scum in Brussles. Politicians quite often see the light when they get out of office, much like Saul did on the way to Damascus. Someone who would actually promote friendly relations with those it seeks to slander purely for monitary gain (MIC) are weeded out. Those who would promote the demise of NATO and develope a Europeon Defense force most likely don't make it past sergeant.

Europeons have to start defending their interests, not outsiders. A Europeon defense force would be much like Russian Defence force, enough to give an invader a very bloody nose, but not anywhere near enough to invade and conqure. To have a person become the head of such an orginazition would require a political decision. It would require a leader that breaks the mold and to use a worn out phrase think outside the box.

One such person was Putin. Did Yeltsin expect Putin to take the direction that he did? I don't know. America now has a chance to pick someone outside the box. I'm not sure how it would work with Trump as president, but the rest are a continuation of the same tired old schtick. He has said that he could work with Putin. It could be a long shot, but one that could pay off some remarkable dividends down the road. The other choice at the moment is Clinton, who looks like she can't wait to start another war. Interesting times we live in indeed.

Related story at Moon of Alabama.


Just noticed an interesting article by that witch Anne Applebaum "Is this the end of the west as we know it? It is full of the usual BS. To site one item "we are two or three bad elections away from the end of NATO". I would hope it is just one good one, with Trump delivering the hammer blow. Interesting read, from a perspective of knowing the evil amongst us. Warning, you may need a vomit bag at the ready.


buttmint's picture

...many great kudos and thumbs up to all the ZHers that have posted great feedback. I read and read---sit back and sip a hot coffee and wonder "...what bad juju and karma is America reaping that will see our land despoiled by civil and international wars?" 

Young Buckethead's picture

Karma? Fukushima is just the warm-up for the US. The majority of failing nuclear power plants in the US are blowing their radiation down the Eastern Seaboard - satchurating DC. It's going to be slow and painful, and broadcast in living color.




Faeriedust's picture

And just wait until the sea finally moves in on Norfolk Naval Base!

TeraByte's picture

What was the point of dragging petty criminal Slobodan Miloševi? to Hague, when other presidents and their henchmen go unpunished. Hilary rightfully deserved a one way ticket to the tribunal, but now instead this madwoman is allowed to run for presidency.

Bazza McKenzie's picture

He stood up against the US and EU warmongers and had no great power protecting him.  That enraged those warmongers.

Billybullshit's picture

And blair, the worst of them all.Now cameron, who was desperate to bomb Syria, even tried to fob us off with the chemical weapons false flag. Evil murdering scumbags

MaxThrust's picture

@Just Observing.    "we have learnt nothing"

I don't think we are suppose to learn anything. This is all planned.