Seymour Hersh: Saudis Paid Pakistan to Hold bin Laden To Prevent U.S. Interrogation

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

In the aftermath of the most signifiant geopolitical event of my lifetime, the attacks of September 11,2001, the U.S. government proceeded to concoct a fairytale for public consumption in order to advance imperial ambitions overseas and a implement a domestic surveillance state at home. This should be obvious to everyone by now.

The official 9/11 story has been filled with holes since the very beginning, but a traumatized American public was too gullible and emotionally damaged to see them. Those of us who saw such inconsistencies and pointed them out have been derided as “conspiracy theorists” for years, yet fifteen years later, the biggest “conspiracy theory” in modern American history is rapidly becoming conspiracy fact.

At the very least, we now know there was Saudi involvement far beyond just the 15 of 19 hijackers who were Saudi nationals, but that’s still just scratching the surface. Once people come to terms with the fact the tale they’ve been told was completely invented, other obvious questions will have to be asked. Most critically, the question of World Trade Center 7.

As I wrote in the recent post, 60 Minutes Explores the Saudi Links to 9/11 Attacks:

I still haven’t seen a convincing explanation for how a 47-story tower that wasn’t hit by a plane imploded on itself. The very serious experts tell us that WTC7 collapsed due to fires caused by debris from the collapse of the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center. So not only are we supposed to believe a massive office building came down demolition style without being hit by a plane, here’s the real kicker. A study from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) admits that the collapse of WTC 7 is the first known instance of a tall building brought down primarily by uncontrolled fires.

Yes, it’s true, and we desperately need to get to the bottom of this.

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But I digress. The main thrust of this article is to highlight some new revelations from Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh. Last May, he published a blockbuster article challenging the entire government story surrounding the death of Osama bin Laden, something I highlighted in the post: U.S. Officials Panic About Seymour Hersh Story; Then Deny His Claims Using Jedi Mind Tricks.

Well he’s back, and he recently shared more groundbreaking information in a fascinating interview with AlterNet. Here are some choice excerpts:

Ken Klippenstein: In the book you describe Saudi financial support for the compound in which Osama Bin Laden was being kept in Pakistan. Was that Saudi government officials, private individuals or both?


Seymour Hersh: The Saudis bribed the Pakistanis not to tell us [that the Pakistani government had Bin Laden] because they didn’t want us interrogating Bin Laden (that’s my best guess), because he would’ve talked to us, probably. My guess is, we don’t know anything really about 9/11. We just don’t know. We don’t know what role was played by whom.

Bingo. We don’t know anything, except that the U.S. government has been lying to the public for 15 years.

KK: So you don’t know if the hush money was from the Saudi government or private individuals?


SH: The money was from the government … what the Saudis were doing, so I’ve been told, by reasonable people (I haven’t written this) is that they were also passing along tankers of oil for the Pakistanis to resell. That’s really a lot of money.


KK: For the Bin Laden compound?


SH: Yeah, in exchange for being quiet. The Paks traditionally have done security for both Saudi Arabia and UAE.


KK: Do you have any idea how much Saudi Arabia gave Pakistan in hush money?


SH: I have been given numbers, but I haven’t done the work on it so I’m just relaying. I know it was certainly many—you know, we’re talking about four or five years—hundreds of millions [of dollars]. But I don’t have enough to tell you.


KK: Why didn’t they apprehend Bin Laden? Can you imagine the intelligence we could have gotten from him?


SH: The Pakistani high command said go kill him, but for chrissake don’t leave a body, don’t arrest him, just tell them a week later that you killed him in Hindu Kush. That was the plan.


Many sections, particularly in the Urdu-speaking sections, were really very positive about Bin Laden. Significant percentages in some areas supported Bin Laden. They [the Pakistani government] would’ve been under great duress if the average person knew that they’d helped us kill him.


KK: In the book you quote a Joint Chiefs of Staff adviser who said that Brennan told the Saudis to stop arming the extremist rebels in Syria and their weapons will dry up—which seems like a rational request—but then, you point out, the Saudis ramped up arms support.


Seymour Hersh: That’s true.


KK: Did the U.S. do anything to punish the Saudis for it?


SH: Nothing. Of course not. No, no. I’ll tell you what’s going on right now … al Nusra, certainly a jihadist group… has new arms. They’ve got some tanks now—I think the Saudis are supplying stuff. They’ve got tanks now, have a lot of arms, and are staging some operations around Aleppo. There’s a ceasefire and even though they’re not part of it, they obviously took advantage of the ceasefire to resupply. It’s going to be bloody.


KK: Just to be clear, the U.S. hasn’t done anything to punish or at least disincentivize the Saudis from arming our enemies in Syria?


SH: Quite the contrary. The Saudis and Qatar and the Turks put money into those arms [sent to Syrian jihadis].


You’re asking the right questions. Do we say anything? No. Turkey’s Erdogan has played a complete double game: for years he supported and accommodated ISIS. The border was wide open—Hatay Province—guys were going back and forth, bad guys. We know Erdogan’s deeply involved. He’s changing his tune slightly but he’s been deeply involved in this.


Let me talk to you about the sarin story [the sarin gas attack in Ghouta, a suburb near Damascus, which the U.S. government attributed to the Assad regime] because it really is in my craw.  In this article that was this long series of interviews [of Obama] by Jeff Goldberg…he says, without citing the source (you have to presume it was the president because he’s talking to him all the time) that the head of National Intelligence, General [James] Clapper, said to him very early after the [sarin] incident took place, “Hey, it’s not a slam dunk.”


You have to understand in the intelligence community—Tenet [Bush-era CIA director who infamously said Iraqi WMD was a “slam dunk”] is the one who said that about the war in Baghdad—that’s a serious comment. That means you’ve got a problem with the intelligence. As you know I wrote a story that said the chairman of the Joint Chiefs told the president that information the same day. I now know more about it.


The president’s explanation for [not bombing Syria] was that the Syrians agreed that night, rather than be bombed, they’d give up their chemical weapons arsenal, which in this article in the Atlantic, Goldberg said they [the Syrians] had never disclosed before. This is ludicrous. Lavrov [Russia’s Foreign Minister] and Kerry had talked about it for a year—getting rid of the arsenal—because it was under threat from the rebels.


The issue was not that they [the Syrians] suddenly caved in. [Before the Ghouta attack] there was a G-20 summit and Putin and Bashar met for an hour. There was an official briefing from Ben Rhodes and he said they talked about the chemical weapons issue and what to do. The issue was that Bashar couldn’t pay for it—it cost more than a billion bucks. The Russians said, ‘Hey, we can’t pay it all. Oil prices are going down and we’re hurt for money.’ And so, all that happened was we agreed to handle it. We took care of a lot of the costs of it.


Guess what? We had a ship, it was called the Cape Maid, it was parked out in the Med. The Syrians would let us destroy this stuff [the chemical weapons]… there was 1,308 tons that was shipped to the port…and we had, guess what, a forensic unit out there. Wouldn’t we like to really prove—here we have all his sarin and we had sarin from what happened in Ghouta, the UN had a team there and got samples—guess what?


It didn’t match. But we didn’t hear that. I now know it, I’m going to write a lot about it.


Guess what else we know from the forensic analysis we have (we had all the missiles in their arsenal). Nothing in their arsenal had anything close to what was on the ground in Ghouta. A lot of people I know, nobody’s going to go on the record, but the people I know said we couldn’t make a connection, there was no connection between what was given to us by Bashar and what was used in Ghouta. That to me is interesting. That doesn’t prove anything, but it opens up a door to further investigation and further questioning.

Now watch his interview with Democracy Now, taped earlier today:

And just like that, conspiracy theory once again becomes conspiracy fact.

As I tweeted the other day:

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Yen Cross's picture

 After       the fact?

Neil Patrick Harris's picture

Kill 3000 Americans and 1 million Iraqis, all to maintain dollar denominated oil markets.

greenskeeper carl's picture

This story still smells to me. I'll believe Seymour when he explains the dancing Israelis. All this does is implicate two countries most Americans already don't like. Limited hangout, IMO

LykeMe's picture
LykeMe (not verified) lakecity55 Apr 25, 2016 9:41 PM

This is pure DISINFORMATION. S.A. and Pakistan had nothing to do with 911. This is who did it.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

If there is greater than a 25% probability the House of Saud(omy) planned, funded, or otherwise organized the 9/11 crew, then those oilfieds need to be, for lack of a better term, recolonized.  

palmereldritch's picture

It's a hologram in motion...#***%$zzzzzzssst@

robertsgt40's picture

Maybe we should go back and chit chat with Larry "pull it" Silverstein.  

All Risk No Reward's picture

If one wants real answers as to why certain moves are made on the "Grand Chessboard," one must query the Grand Chess Master and not blame the chess pieces.

Saudi Arabia and Israel are chess pieces, NOT chess masters.

The Debt-Money Monopolists are the chess masters... they are almost certainly to blame for this... but most people don't even know they exist... they take money creation and distribution into society for granted... with no more intellectual thought than fish uses regarding water.

As for 9/11, this is absolute proof that the Debt-Money Monopolist financed government narrative that the top of the building crushed the lower section of the building is a false narrative.

Now, there will be people who will declare this absolute proof to be something else, BUT WHAT THEY WILL NOT DO IS EXPLAIN HOW THE TOP SECTION OF THE BUILDING COULD HIT THE LOWER SECTION OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE FORCE ACTING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION (NEWTON'S 3RD LAW) AND RESULTING IN AN OBSERVABLE DECELERATION OF THE TOP SECTION OF THE BUILDING. This is equivalent to you striking a cue ball with a cue stick and not feeling any impact... it is impossible, therefore, it didn't happen.

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like

Review all the videos on David Chandler's Youtube Channel - they are quite compelling. This is called grammar accumulation and logical analysis - the two components the ancient Greeks knew to be requirements to actual knowledge and included in the Trivium portion of the Seven Liberal Arts (not the Rockefeller counterfeit today).

John Kich's picture

This is Donald Trump's most shocking statement yet,

However the mainstream media isn't saying a word about it!

What are they really trying to cover up?

GRDguy's picture

You want real answers, waterboard Cheney. He knows.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

You Jew hater antisemite mofo. 

Sturm und Drang's picture

Except, they're mostly not - semites that is.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Thanks for the negatives - you just exposed how many fascist and racist rats are lurking on this portal.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Thanks for the negatives - you just exposed how many fascist and racist rats are lurking on this portal.

LykeMe's picture


Pairadimes's picture

All you need to know about this is that the US Government sent DevGru to kill Bin Laden, when they could have just as easily returned him alive.

sushi's picture

Same way they hustled Saddam Hussein off to the gallows and laughed an evil Hitlery laugh at the sodomization and roadside execution of Ghadaffi.

These SOBs were our SOBs and we needed to shut them up damn quick before they began speaking out of school about all the "special relationships."



DieselChadron's picture

I believe Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 of complications from diabetes.

Lorca's Novena's picture

We could also ask Benazir Bhutto again since she also said he died shortly after Nein11. Oh, nvm, she was murdered.

Kobe Beef's picture

The Terminally-ill Marfan Syndrome Kidney Failure Patient personally humped a 2,000 pound dialysis machine and a 100 mile extension cord through mountain tunnels carved by prehistoric dwarves, dowsing for 100L of specially filtered water per day, while avoiding the US surveillance apparatus all the way from Tora Bora to Abbottabad.

Dude, Bin Laden is some wicked Black Magic, he can make hijackers invisible to airport security, make their passports impervious to steel-melting infernos, and even raise several of them from the dead. You gonna doubt some bad Mamma Jamma like that?

I saw it all on TV. It's true.




Sturm und Drang's picture

You forgot "steel-melting" jet fuel and office furniture fed "infernos".

One must be factual.

But yeah, ol' Osama had some serious voodoo.

lakecity55's picture

"Men, the Russkies are finished. If we're gonna maintain profits, we gotta have a new enemy!"
"Sir, let's use those guys we supplied in A-Stan! We could blow up NYC and blame them! Why, we'd have a 20-year war after that!"
"I like the cut of your jib, Smithers. I'll run it up the flag pole! You may get a raise!"

Stackers's picture

According to NIST, WTC 7 collapsed after one collumn failed, causing a chain reaction that collapsed the entire inner structure, leaving the non structural curtain wall to fall straight down. If you believe this you should never enter another building over 3 stories, because every single one is a death trap.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

NIST never completed (or at least released) the entire WTC 7 collapse in their computer model. Why would they feel it's not important to model the entire collapse? That's Neil Degrasse Tyson type science there.

svayambhu108's picture

No they didn't the building is not all on the ground in its footprint. I think even that flawed model would have left a something standing.

Also you could see it collapses differently...

Rusty Shorts's picture

Yamasaki received the World Trade 
Center commission the year after the 
Dhahran Airport was completed. 
Yamasaki described its plaza as "a mecca, 
a great relief from the narrow streets and 
sidewalks of the surrounding Wall Street 

At the 
base of the towers, Yamasaki used 
implied pointed arches—derived from the 
characteristically pointed arches of 
Islam—as a transition between the wide 
column spacing below and the dense 
structural mesh above. (Europe imported 
pointed arches from Islam during the 
Middle Ages, and so non-Muslims have 
come to think of them as innovations of 
the Gothic period.) Above soared the pure 
geometry of the towers, swathed in a 
shimmering skin, which doubled as a 
structural web—a giant truss. Here 
Yamasaki was following the Islamic 
tradition of wrapping a powerful 
geometric form in a dense filigree, 
as in 
the inlaid marble pattern work of the Taj 
Mahal or the ornate carvings of the 
courtyard and domes of the Alhambra.

The shimmering filigree is the mark of 
the holy. According to Oleg Grabar, the 
great American scholar of Islamic art and 
architecture, the dense filigree of complex 
geometries alludes to a higher spiritual 
reality in Islam, and the shimmering 
quality of Islamic patterning relates to 
the veil that wraps the Qa'ba at Mecca. A
fter the attack, Grabar spoke of how 
these towers related to the architecture of 
Islam, where "the entire surface is 
meaningful" and "every part is both 
construction and ornament." A number of 
designers from the Middle East agreed, 
describing the entire façade as a giant 
"mashrabiya," the tracery that fills the 
windows of mosques. 

As to whether or not this Islamic style was constructed by the Bin Laden's...the architect who designed the towers won't say...

In the early '70s, as the trade towers were 
nearing completion, Saudi Arabia was 
awash in oil revenues, and the state 
embarked on a massive modernization 
and building campaign. Yamasaki was 
premier among the many foreign 
architects hired during this period. 
Unwilling to take on too much work, 
Yamasaki decided to accept just three 
choice projects in Saudi Arabia: the Saudi 
Arabian Monetary Agency head office, the 
Eastern Province International Airport, 
and the King Fahd Royal Reception 
Pavilion at Jeddah Airport. In all three 
projects he continued his explorations in 
melding traditional Islamic form with 
modern materials, methods, and 

As a scion of the Binladin contracting 
firm, destined to inherit some portion of 
its vast operations, Osama Bin Laden would certainly have been aware of 
Yamasaki's Saudi Arabian projects. 
Indeed, his family may have built them. 
(Minoru Yamasaki Associates won't say, 
but the Binladens were involved with 
almost all royal construction.) While 
Osama was in college in the mid-'70s, 
Yamasaki was designing his second 
generation of Saudi work, and the World 
Trade Center—then the tallest building in 
the world times two—came to completion 
in New York. This period was the high-
water mark both for Yamasaki's world 
reputation and for the Saudis' national 
construction plan—which in Saudi 
Arabia must have brought a heightened 
sense of importance to the World Trade 

palmereldritch's picture

I don't think the Saudis are known for their crypto-masonic design motifs of which the towers are fairly apparent symbols

palmereldritch's picture

And that column failed because the initial charges failed to fire in sequence...hence the delay to establish re-ignition

Sanctuary2's picture

the first building in history that was structurally sound, collapsed by a command from Larry Silverstein (of Israel) to "Pull it!"

Johnny Caine's picture

Bin Laden said he didn't do it yo. Why would he deny the perpetrating the biggest hit EVER terroristically  ( is that even a fucking word ) on the US? ? It makes no sense, Osama is a CIA cut out that was used for a purpose and then retired. 

DieselChadron's picture

I believe he's written about it before.  I'm guessing the timing for this interview is the result mostly of 'the secret 28 pages' being talked about (ad nauseam).

FedFunnyMoney's picture

Tim Osman would have sung like a jailbird to the see aye aaa, if that was really him in the compound.

I highly doubt it was him.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Another "Limited Hangout" fluff piece. Just like the 28 pages.

Mr Pink's picture

One problem....that wasn't Bin laden in the compound.

Didn't Hersh say himself that the raid was fake?

CheapBastard's picture


You mean the Saudis had something to do with 911?


I can't believe it?!

The next thing you'll be telling me is I can't keep my health insurance, and I can't keep my doctor!


tarsubil's picture

Typical hall of mirrors CIA crap. The truth will come out someday and they better hope they are all dead from old age by then.

Freddie's picture

Sy Hersh making up bullshit to protect the tribe.

Benazir Bhutto said Bin Laden died in 2001.  Shortly after she said that she was killed.

She says it about 2:20

lakecity55's picture

Yes, that is why alciaduh whacked her!

Sanctuary2's picture

actually Dickless Cheney issued the order to murder Bhenazir Bhutto-he didnt want her blabbing around that Bin Laden died in Dec 2001 and had nothing to do with 911...there is a CIA doctored tape that has her saying he was killed in 2004-this was cover for the fact of all the fake OBL tapes that were released from time to time after 2001-after all-if he were dead in 2001, then WHO RELEASED all these comminiques?  Hint CIA

rainingFrogs's picture

"Sy Hersh making up bullshit to protect the tribe."

Hersh does seem like a well-placed plant.  He always has plenty of credible sounding and well-sourced information that gets mixed in w head fake stuff that doesn't make sense.  Enough of the true story to sound convincing, but then the distraction to keep everyone off the actual trail.  If the Bin Laden hit were proven to be a fake, that he actually died in 2001, then Hersh would be outed as the double agent he probably is.

The root of the Saudi problem is, even if they were linked to the 19 perpetrators, one would have to believe the 19 actually pulled off 9/11.  This cannot be true. 

So Hersh, the Saudi connection, and now the Pakistani connection are all part of the head fake.  A convincing sounding ruse that diverts attention to the hapless Saudis and distracts from the actual, very sinister and treasonous conspiracy, which must involve the CIA, FBI, Mossad, Cheney, Rumsfield, the Pentagon, and a few others in and around the Executive Office. Collectively comprising the "deep state".  Silverstein gets an honourable mention. Was he actually involve in the conspiracy or merely profiting from it?

The Saudis were probably being played, as they aren't nearly clever enough to be full members in the actual conspiracy.  Maybe now they are more concerned about being outed as patsies and fools.  But, they know enough that they can credibly threaten the true conspirators with being outted.  So, the threat to flood the market w T-bills was a facade, which concealed the actual threat of exposure. 

There is clearly a lot of shit the tribe is responsible for, but 9/11 and JFK must be defining moments. JFK being the coup when the deep state assumed control of the USG, and 9/11 when the deep state imposed martial law on the world in the form of a War on Terror.  

LA_Goldbug's picture

"The root of the Saudi problem is, even if they were linked to the 19 perpetrators, one would have to believe the 19 actually pulled off 9/11.  This cannot be true. "

I tell my friends to consider some simple facts. US has have numerous 3-letter agencies in the spy business and none noticed ? With spy budgets in the billions with earies everywhere and they heard nothing ? Common sense tells me that they KNEW !!!

If one believes their version of events then one is naive. Period.

Kobe Beef's picture

That and there's 2,000 cameras monitoring the Pentagon, yet the entire ABC dumfuckery can't produce a single frame of video corroborating their tale of an airliner hitting it?

Ridiculous, really.

And then that same Magic Airplane just completely disintegrates into a small hole leaving behind no tail, engines, luggage or bodies? And hey, another Magic Airplane dissolves into solid ground, also disappearing without any chance of recovery.

You know the worst part? You're disgusted at the Killers in High Places, but maybe more so at the Intellectual Children who believe their lies. It turns you against your own people to see how many blindly follow blatant propaganda.

Boris Badenov's picture

Asked about reports that his agency also kept what looked like ordinary taxis and telephone company trucks in the basement, Mr. Ball laughed. ''What I would say is that it is not unusual for law enforcement agencies to have these kinds of things,'' he said.