Following the propagandist double-speak gushing forth from the Obama administration over when a "boot on the ground" in Syria is a "boot on the ground," the following photographs via Agence France-Presse confirm US special operation forces in a rural village 40 miles from Raqqa. As The Guardian reports, the Pentagon press secretary, resisted commenting on the photographs and would only describe the US special operations forces’ mission in generic terms, despite the fact that these troops are at the frontline of fighting when President Obama assured America that forces are consistently behind the forward lines.
In April, State Department spokesman John Kirby attempted to change the narrative in a stumbling proposterous way denying President Obama had ever said "no boots on the ground" in Syria...
And here’s the relevant transcript:
“Kirby: there was never this – there was never this, “No boots on the ground.” I don’t know where this keeps coming from.
Question: But yes there – well, yes, yes, there was.
Kirby: There was no – there was – no there wasn’t. There was –
Question: More than –
Question: What?
Kirby: We’re not going to be involved in a large-scale combat mission on the ground. That is what the President has long said.”
To anyone who has been following this, Kirby’s argument is patently absurd. The President told the BBC less than twenty-four hours previously that there would be “no boots on the ground” – and then his administration announced that 250 more booted US soldiers would be treading Syrian ground. Not only that, but prior to the summer of last year, the President assured the American people there’d be no “boots on the ground” a total of sixteen times.
As George Orwell dramatized in Nineteen Eighty-Four, and also in this memorable essay, the degeneration of language into an instrument of concealment is one of the hallmarks of the modern age. In the novel, there is a vast apparatus concerned solely with erasing the past in order to justify the actions of the present: the Obama administration doesn’t have the power to do that, and yet thinks it can achieve the same ends by simply denying what everyone knows to be true, as shown by Kirby’s surreal exchange with reporters.
And now, as The Guardian reports, we have proof that not only was Kirby lying about the president's words, but the boots on the ground are far closer to the frontlines than Obama had ever admitted to the American public...
Elite US military forces have been photographed for the first time in Syria as they join largely Kurdish forces on an advance toward, Raqqa, the Islamic State terror group’s capital.
A photographer with Agence France-Presse captured US special operations forces with Kurdish forces known as the YPG, part of the US-mentored Syrian Democratic Forces, in a rural village less than 40 miles from Raqqa. Some US troops wear the insignia of the YPG in an apparent show of support.
Peter Cook, the Pentagon press secretary, resisted commenting on the photographs and would only describe the US special operations forces’ mission in generic terms... More lies....
Barack Obama announced last month that he would increase US special operations forces in Syria to 300, for what the Pentagon has consistently described as merely an advisory mission. AFP described the troops as “near the frontline” north of Raqqa, despite the Pentagon’s frequent claims that the forces are consistently behind the forward lines.
Cook denied any mission creep had occurred, saying the “advise-and-assist role has not changed”, and that the elite forces, the only ones thus far acknowledged in Syria, conduct “meetings” with indigenous forces “that are taking the fight to Isil”, another term for Isis.
“They are not on the forward line. They are providing advice and assistance,” Cook said.
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So once again - do we believe a photographer's images and knowledge of the region or an Obama administration spokesman?








While I am sure this will make Erdogan happy as a pig in slop in this clusterfuck of foreign policy we find ourselves in -- I wonder what happens when these troops meet Assad (cough Putin cough) troops?
It seems to me like we have:
Putin fighting the CIA in Syria.
The USDoD fighting the CIA in Syria.
Erdogan fighting Putin in Syria.
USDoD fighting Erdogan in Syria.
Iranians fighting the CIA in Syria.
All the while the USDoD supplies Erdogan with weapons and technology and money.
You forgot to add: Erdogan killing Kurds in Turkey, Syria and Iraq - obviously (as NATO member) with the full backing of the US and UK.
"If you want your genocide, you can keep your genocide".
Clusterfuck doesn't even come close to describing it.
Meet the staff from War Criminals R US.
Are these guys Delta Force?
they would probably not accept a mission advising a ragtag village militia. They are probably "just" ODAs.
It's been reported that these special forces basically have to take over the leadership of the kurds on the battlefield and also be pretty much be on point for the attack these past few days during the latest kurd offensive on raqqa...
But...but...but propaganda says that female kurdish soldiers up to general officer rank are leading the attack on Raqqa...
US Protects Syria Group Who Killed 100+ Civilians: “How Many Villages Do They Have To Massacre?”
They were on their way on a mission to close Gitmo & obviously got lost.
Since the magic negro promised “no boots on the ground”, they must be wearing sneakers (or maybe loafers).
This madness should end.
They're not very stealthy are they?
I'm sure they got the Syrian government's permission, ... right? If not, that would be a declaration of war.
The SOF are wearing YPJ insignia on their fatigues - actual LOL - YPJ is the female YPG battalion..Someone is having a chuckle
Oh yeah: fuck you Erdogan
Bloke's got a fucking beard man, which means his gas mask/respirator doesn't fit.
It's just one of the many reasons why they say US special forces aren't worth shit.
I don'think the kurds need any 'leadership' from the US.
It's probably the other way around. The US are more than likely just getting in the way.
They (the Kurds) have been doing just fine on their own before the yanks arrived.
Not unlike the Brits in WWII...
SF, do you simply continue to be used like this? You know damn well this is not in Americas interests. I know your on this site BRACKEN, lets hear your opinion...
those guys are Green Berets... with some kurdish patches.
typically not photogenic.
Apparently the Kurds are only supposed to go only a bit further, not into Raqaa...
The 'Syrian Arab Coalition' -the most recent us .gov fiction is supposed to take that city.
To they extent they really exist, they could not take my backyard.
This is a bait and switch.... goal is to use kurds to the extent possible to sweep out non-complaint jihadis, and us and british forces are going to start setting up a push on Assad to the coast.
Just like the zionists/US uses isis to kill the christian people and those aligned with the home country (in this case Syria) the kurds serve the purpose, as you said, to kill the rogue or independent jihadis. Both groups the US/zionists do not want to be seen killing directly. It is especially important to have the proxy kill the christians. It is bad press to cluster bomb a christian wedding and once the proxy terrorist have killed or driven out all the christians then no one really cares if they kill those who remain.
Russia uses hezbollah, syrians and iranians to help secure the western coast for Russia. Perhaps there is already an agreement between Russia and the Zionists on who gets what parts of Syria. If there is no such agreement then Russia, as usual, has been too timid to respond to NATO planes bombing areas (including Syrian troops), US developing an airbase in eastern Syria and US troops on the ground and taking land areas. As usual, once the boots are on the ground and moving expect things to accellerate.
Will Russia's stooges be able to hold grounds they gained as the revitalized western proxy pushes forward? How will Russia respond when NATO planes make attacks on Hezbollah and Iranian troops. Hint - Putin never delivered the S300 to Syria as per the 2007 contract - Israel wants Hezbollah dead, Israel does not want Hezbollah gaining strength and influence over a larger land mass, Putin is signing a Free Trade Agreement with Israel.
Are they invited by soveriegn country of Syria it her President Assad? Illegal.
As long as Israel is safe, Americans can kill Americans for another neocon war, and Vichy Washington continues its master plan for the master race.
Oded Yinon Plan
Plus Grand Chessboard / Wolfowitz Doctrine
plus Coudenhove-Kalergi plan
Equals double plus good for Greater Israel, the banking families, and the mic.
All these 'christians' dreaming about the end times and what babylon and the beast is...
We're not the good guys, fellow babies. No - we are very much the harbingers of war, famine, pestilence and death.
And we will pay for it one way or another.
The first horse is the conqueror. Who would be the conqueror today? The second horse is bloody civil war. Where could a civil war happen today? The third horse is inflation and scarcity. Where could that happen tomorrow? The final horse is sickness and starvation.
The thing is, these horses have been galloping all throughout history. The US will get to experience them on a grander scale, end times or no end times.
And now the CIA has brought the war home.
Americans fighting the CIA in USA, in the name of social justice.
This is fucking insanity at its finest. We have absolutely no reason to be in many parts of that theater, none. "Beware of foreign entanglements.." and we (well, not "we the people") completely ignore that advice. Over the last few decades (probably even longer) the U.S. armed forces has acted as KSA's mercenary force; it is that simple. We keep fucking around with the wrong countries when we should wipe KSA off the map and lay siege to the oil. KSA is the root of the problem "over there". Yes, Turkey is a NATO asshat to be sure, but I am convinced, wipe out the 9000 or so of the royal family in Saudi and things will queit down quickly.
Also, nuke Iran from orbit; its the only way to be sure.
Meanwhile, back in CONUS:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/05/26/special-ope...
The race for Raqqa is culminating and sadly I don't see Assad's troops making headways in that direction for now. They're too bogged up in the west and trying to secure the surroundings of Palmyra.
I do think that the US will try to control Raqqa and subsequently push for a joint Sunni/Kurdish proxy state within Syria along the Euphrates it controls, this would both prevent the (much feared) Shia crescent and keep Syria weakened on the long term, even if Assad survives in the Alawite region to the west. Also Syria's gas reserves are primarily situated between Raqqa and DeirEz-Zoor and would thus be under US proxy control. It will be interesting to see how Russia will try to counter or curtail these pretty obvious moves next and whether a clash between both powers can be avoided. Also how stable is the SDF and how well do Sunni Arabs and Kurds really get along to serve as a reliable US proxy?
Maybe some experts could comment on that.
I am not an expert, but I think that Turkey would oppose to any Kurdish state.
The 'race' for Raqqa is a US PR stunt. US Stooge progress is shown in a map here.
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF...
I'm not entirely convinced by that article of yours. Yes it may be a PR stunt and maybe they aren't ready YET, but that doesn't mean that the US isn't focusing on that city. The above mentioned points are reason enough for the US to pursue that city and bring it back under its control from its CIA proxies. (Basically proxy swaping for the US).
<-- US tells the truth
<-- Russia/Syria tells the truth
(I know it is not a simple black/white, good/bad but vote based on probabilities)
The Us will have to deal with the Turks in Raqqa
http://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2016/3/31/syrian-kurdish-forces-pr...
The sorroundings of Palmyra are gas fields men... The Syrian Army is trying to take advantage from the chaos between rebel/jihadist factions to push on weaker frontlines. ISIS is moving many resources to Raqqa, the kurds will take months to make any victory there... in the meanwhile SAA is securing supply lines, gas fields, small airbases (for russian helicopters) and closing pockets of surrounded rebels. The race to raqqa will be a suicide for Assad in the current situation, and the PR stunt of the US coalition on this matter is probably one more way to try to put pressure on him and make him and his allies do the wrong move.
Thanks Dostojevskij! So no rush at this stage then.
Raqqa is a fictional objective right now, niether Assad or the Russians/Shia coalition care for that, watch a map of the current situation, they have already dozens of frontlines and thousands of erdogan mercenaries prepare to battle for Aleppo. Syrians and Russians are moving through ISIS territories only to secure gas and oil fields as primary objectives.
I suppose that the battle for Raqqa is a bit more important for the US coalition and their allies on the ground to prove they are actually doing something against ISIS. But that will not be fast, kurds will not die rushing for a sunni city, thats for sure, nor while Erdogan is ready to stab them in their back. The US got no other boots on the ground there, only some small sunni faction here and there ready to betray them to join who pays more.
I am sure Chumba is on his way to Raqqa as we speak as a 'Syrian expert for the USA Army' LOL
there's no race for Raqaa / Raqqa - maybe there was once, but I doubt the SAA is going to take the bait.
The Russia/Syrian airforces have delivered 150 airstrikes on Raqqa in the last 3 days.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/150-airstrikes-pound-isis-raqqah-ci...
If there is a race to Raqqa, it is the US racing to save its stooges or more likely replace the now "Bad Stooges" with the now "Good Stooges" in an attempt to fragment Syria.
double post :(
Yep, those look like boots to me, and they're on the ground.
The State Department continues to exhibit the choomposity of dope.
What happens when the US special forces with the kurds meet the US special forces with ISIS? Do they keep shooting each other?
They have clickers and speak Turkish like the guy in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc43fvqGMA0
Barak Obama and John Kirby two fucken liars.
how is this not an invasion of a sovereign nation by an aggressor nation?
syria has allies and this invites their response
USA has sovereign rights over every being on the planet........did you not read ?
Honestly US does it because it can. Who in his right mind would like to mess with the US? Even the big players avoid it at all cost. Why do you thing Russia does nothing when spy planes fly all over its border?
That's why you either 1) have a really fucking powerful military, or 2) go the Switzerland way, every fighting male has to have military grade weaponry in his home and you have to defend your country in case of invasion. I rather have the second one, but either case the point is: "you mess with us, you get it".
Carl von Clausewitz would have something to say about this, I'm sure.
points taken
still, turkey downed a russian figher that came close or marginally entered its territory
exactly what is the objective of the US here?
to topple Bashad because he has Russia as an ally?
to defeat ISIS?
to stem the flow of refugees into Turkey and Iran?
why doesn't the US simply assassinate Bashad if that's the objective - because Russia would not allow it?
if the US is ok with invading Syria and wants to prevent the flow of refugees, why doesn't it sequester the north west of Syria rebuild the cities there, enforce no fly zones above that air space with armed US "HSA" type border controls?
the goal has to be to defeat ISIS, in which case the USA and Bashad are on the same side.
all the US is doing is placing troops in harms way and providing an incentive for fighters to join ISIS.
esactly what happened to the
http://nypost.com/2015/09/18/team-obama-has-spent-500m-to-train-four-or-...
i can think of 500 US citizens that would love a million bucks and might consider not committing murder or peddling heroin in the US to get one million dollars - let alone the tens, hundred of millions or even billions that have been spent subjugating people still left in bombed out cities.
mind you, i am an outlier - i would abolish homeland security right now and spend the money on something useful - like giving away a few million cars, helicopters or hey, maybe medicine to those in pain - but that's me
Surely you understand that the US has backed both 'al qaeda' and 'isis' in Syraq by now - don't you?
isis does not take all that land, get all that schwag, sell all that oil, without Uncle Sam's green light.
What is possible is the CIA and Pentagon may not be quite on the same page as to the 'real' objective.
i guess i am head in the sand and butt up on that - i think ISIS has been kicking US sponsored iraqis, kurds and sunnis using US weapons - just hard to believe the US would deliberately equip ISIS to kill US soldiers on the ground and behead captured aid workers for facebook ratings and stock price.
i may need a "tude adjustment - i also take the view that the US government, its military at least, should be able to hack ISIS i-phones at will.. and anyone that they find has ever spoken to ISIS on an i-phone - except state sposored journalists i guess, who are part of the MIC anyway..
I'm sure your attitude is just fine but here:
'hard to believe the US would deliberately equip ISIS to kill US soldiers'
well, that's where you run into trouble.
You have to consider the possibility that your government [at least, those who control it] hates you.
So would Gomer Pyle.