06-03 15:00: RANsquawk Today's Trading Edge
It is no secret that the relationship between the United States and China has been strained for quite some time. Earlier this month when the US sailed its guided missile destroyer the USS William P. Lawrence within 12 nautical miles of Chinese-occupied Fiery Cross Reef, it ended in China scrambling of two fighter jets and three warships to shadow the destroyer and convince it to leave the area.
The US admitted that it sailed the USS William P. Lawrence by the disputed island in order to "challenge excessive maritime claims" made by China. In turn, China had this to say about the US effort: "This action by the U.S. side threatened China's sovereignty and security interests, endangered the staff and facilities on the reef, and damaged regional peace and stability."
As the US meddles in the South China Sea disputes, China has been increasingly vocal about its displeasure, and that came out very directly in recent comments made on Thursday.
The United Nations is getting ready to rule on a maritime dispute between China and the Philippines, and in discussing that potential ruling Yang Yujun, spokesman for the Ministry of National Defense (MND) said at a briefing that US involvement in these types of disputes is the greatest threat to the region.
From Russia Today
On Thursday, China said that it would not recognize the UN verdict on the issue, unless China’s claims are honored.
“No matter what kind of ruling the Court makes, China will not accept nor recognize the adjudication,” Yang Yujun, spokesman for the Ministry of National Defense (MND) said at a briefing. “This is China’s right conferred by the international laws. By doing so we are actually abiding by and observing the international laws.”
The tension is being exacerbated even further by a continuously growing American presence in the region, whose many allies also lay claims to the islands. China has called the US involvement in the dispute the “greatest” threat to the region.
“Certain countries outside the region frequently show its military strength in the South China Sea area and this is actually the greatest threat to peace and stability in the region. We urge them to stop stirring up a storm in a teapot and stop sowing seeds of discord so as to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea, which conforms to the common interests of all parties,” Yang said.
Yang went on to say that "in essence, the root cause for security hazards and potential accidents in the air and at sea between China and the US is the long term, large-scale and frequent close-in reconnaissance activities against China by the US military vessels and aircraft."
The statement made by Yang sums up perfectly what we have been saying for quite some time now. The more the US provokes China, and Russia for that matter, the likelihood of international incident increases. Of course, maybe that's what the United States has been after all along.
Correct.
It's only right and just when "we" do it. Anyone else is a danger to freedom and democracy. /sarc
well if it took them clear up to 2016 to figure this out, ho lee phuk they must be some thick sumbiatchez.
They figured it out a long time ago. The difference now is they have stockpiled enough Gold to challenge the prevailing order and call a spade a spade.
Not because they are the good guys. They just want to be the next Empire. China plays the long con....as in centuries long. They never appreciated Gun Boat diplomacy and would like some payback bitches.
They can play the long gold card all they want, Bombs, bullets, and nuclear explosions beats gold bars.
This is why they are whining about the US escalating the situation They know this as well.
China or USA, we the people will be rammed like ants in the fight of elephants.
It's all about the Chinese Yuan vs the US Dollar >>> WW3.
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Maybe China should stop creating islands out of reefs and abide by international law for a change. International waters means just that, the waters are available to be sailed by vessels from any country.
What exactly is "the law"? It's nothing more than the will of the most powerful party at the time of the dispute.
If UK and America can create a nation for European Jews on top of an Arab country, what the FUCK is a couple of islands NO FUCKER lives on?
Right. Just out of the blue they created a jewish state on top of ...what? And they also invaded and took over Germany and Japan. Its called settling a world war as best you can.
Take a look again at the map of the S. China Sea. Those commie bastards are not just creating island getaways. In a time of peace they are asserting control of the extended territorial waters of numerous countries . . . countries which supply my local Walmart. But seriously . . . .
While the Chinese are busy building islands, roads, bridges, even cities ... as well as buying up the prime global real estate, Barry is busy cleaning out LGBT bathrooms, handing guns to mesican drug gangs, trying to take Americans' guns away, chasing climate change deniers and bombing hospitals.
Looks like the Chinese leaders have outsmarted The Messiah by miles.
@zeronetwork,
how right you are.
(And all of us on the seven continents.)
Just looking at the map and seeing the Chinese claims, tells me that the US is on the correct side this one time.
Malaysia seems to have the most reasonable claims.
China wants its pre ww2 borders acknowledged. The PI and Taiwanese claums are post ww2 borders. China was a neutral party (suffered japanese genocide and war crimes) and feels a loss of territory is insulting.
Correct me if im wrong, but thats where all of this was coming from as far as i knew.
The so-called 'nine-dot line' Chinese claim in the SCS is essentially based on a vague historic suzerainty in the area, going back to times before the nation-state concept became entrenched in the modern era. The sense of superiority and entitlement that that history engenders in the Chinese state is compounded by notions of nationalism and patriotism whipped up by the Communist Party of China.
I see. So a vaugue and imaginary line is the cause of all this. Well fuck, given the track record of humanity, i can see this going quite well.
Vague and imaginary - kinda like USA's "freedom of navigation" activites when the USA hasn't even ratified that set of laws yet.
Do as we say! Not as we do!
Kingman Reef, Palmyra Atoll, Howland and Baker Islands, Jarvis Island - all of these would cease to be part of the USA'a EEZ if they ratified those laws, which is why they refuse to, but insist that they must police those same laws and force other nations to heel.
edit: Ooohh! Downvotes from the butthurt shills, but no replies. Go on, prove that the USA has a legal obligation to enforce a treaty it hasn't ratified yet. If it has no legal obligation, is it a moral one? So moral that they refuse to submit themselves to the same terms as the ones they are trying to enforce?
The USA is not a party to the UNCLOS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_United_Nations_Conv...
The USA is not a member of the ITLOS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Tribunal_for_the_Law_of_the_Sea
The USA has not ratified the UNCLOS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_United_Nations_Conve...
But the USA demands that all other nations must adhere to the convention - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_navigation#United_States_.22Fre...
... even though they themselves refuse to be held to it, because it might interfere with US economic interests.
That, right there, is the very definition of the word "exceptional".
There's a difference, as much as people like you don't want there to be. We're the good guys. If the shit ever did hit the fan, for all our faults we will STILL not allow our government to do the same things we can expect from the brutal Chinese communists.
Just because you're a good guy don't mean WE'RE the good guys, champ. What you've said in your post smacks of terminal delusion. Wishful thinking.
borders are lines drawn through mass graves.
Dutti - Can you explain further? Not that educated on the topic.
even a broken clock is right twice a day
Stapler used as a template.
China has 1.3 billion people. They could start marching people into America, until we are completely inundated with chinese. And they woukd still have half a billion left. And lest you forget, China and russia also have nukes, so thats really not a win automatically for the US.
There is no "win" and the US has no business there. The us cannot afford to invade Utah if there is no dope or gold to grab.
Not the American people, just the War Department and their boot lickers.
Meh, China is the second greatest threat, so really this is more sour grapes at not being the #1 military while still having significant territorial ambition.
It's the damned Zionists, people! We are just following orders.
Or it could just be a horse and pony show. You have to remember China & Russia are highly influenced by the Zio-Gog west central banks. The leaders don't want to upset the apple cart until they have to.
True but theres no question both have been, along with Iran, leading the de-dollarization efforts. kazakhstan too
But Russia has a oligarch/central bank 'jewish question' the chinese do not... Although weirdly enough a bunch of Jews were 'advisors' to mao
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Rosenfeld
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong
https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/jews-in-china-mao-era/
So who knows, eh?
Amazing how often they show up , isnt it, almost as if all the 'canards' are not entirely --- false?
I've noticed that if you look into it there has been a influential tribe member who always has the complete attention of the so called leader,pres.,PM,ruler,king,dictator of a lot of counties.
Must just be a coincidence!
'zionists', eh?
Leaving aside the rampant misuse of the term...Tough to pin this one on them, isn't it?
Unless the Sassoon family is trying to force open the south china sea to their opium... Again?
Tough to pin this one on them, isn't it?
you should not stop trying.
Normally I'd say China was right, but they're being dicks in the South China sea and trying to bully weaker neighbors. The US as always has vested interests, but in this case I hope they help Vietnam in particular fend off those assholes as they ram Vietnamese fishing boats etc. Fuck China too, they're almost as big a bunch of cunts as the US government.
little dick syndrome
Duh.
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Ho Lee Fook
Worse president in human history
Don't cha be worring about getting them to reflect reality,
just get those monthly numbers out.
You too chinks.
Now if we can just get a blanket 40% tax on Chinese imports rather than just these piecemeal, yet well-placed Commerce dept warning shots.
They're correct, we are poking them. I just hope we have some secret weapon that works should they poke back. I hope the Rod of God and the Rail Guns are real.
In the meantime, China, just double the price of gold and send our economy into a tailspin. We'll be distracted for months.
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Not bad , but the 'ju' reflects our old country accent that picks you off right away.
Better "Hew wannna.. etc.
Ritin iz as hard as maff.
Ju always whant a whar. It's like a 2X ETF.
AmeriKa: abusing the planet and everyone on it with our Reserve Currency since...
Oh stop, been to Peiping lately?