"America's Greatest Threat Is Its Crazed 'Leadership' And Its Brainwashed Population"

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Submitted by Dmitry Orlov, The Saker, Victor Katsap and Evgenia Gurevich via PaulCraigRoberts.org,

Insouciant Americans do not even know what they should be worried about...

A Russian Warning

June 02, 2016 “Information Clearing House” – “ClubOrlov” – We, the undersigned, are Russians living and working in the USA. We have been watching with increasing anxiety as the current US and NATO policies have set us on an extremely dangerous collision course with the Russian Federation, as well as with China. Many respected, patriotic Americans, such as Paul Craig Roberts, Stephen Cohen, Philip Giraldi, Ray McGovern and many others have been issuing warnings of a looming Third World War. But their voices have been all but lost among the din of a mass media that is full of deceptive and inaccurate stories that characterize the Russian economy as being in shambles and the Russian military as weak—all based on no evidence. But we-—knowing both Russian history and the current state of Russian society and the Russian military–cannot swallow these lies. We now feel that it is our duty, as Russians living in the US, to warn the American people that they are being lied to, and to tell them the truth. And the truth is simply this:

If there is going to be a war with Russia, then the United States will most certainly be destroyed, and most of us will end up dead.

Let us take a step back and put what is happening in a historical context. Russia has suffered a great deal at the hands of foreign invaders, losing 22 million people in World War II. Most of the dead were civilians, because the country was invaded, and the Russians have vowed to never let such a disaster happen again. Each time Russia had been invaded, she emerged victorious. In 1812 Nepoleon invaded Russia; in 1814 Russian cavalry rode into Paris. On June 22, 1941, Hitler’s Luftwaffe bombed Kiev; On May 8, 1945, Soviet troops rolled into Berlin.

But times have changed since then. If Hitler were to attack Russia today, he would be dead 20 to 30 minutes later, his bunker reduced to glowing rubble by a strike from a Kalibr supersonic cruise missile launched from a small Russian navy ship somewhere in the Baltic Sea. The operational abilities of the new Russian military have been most persuasively demonstrated during the recent action against ISIS, Al Nusra and other foreign-funded terrorist groups operating in Syria. A long time ago Russia had to respond to provocations by fighting land battles on her own territory, then launching a counter-invasion; but this is no longer necessary. Russia’s new weapons make retaliation instant, undetectable, unstoppable and perfectly lethal.

Thus, if tomorrow a war were to break out between the US and Russia, it is guaranteed that the US would be obliterated. At a minimum, there would no longer be an electric grid, no internet, no oil and gas pipelines, no interstate highway system, no air transportation or GPS-based navigation. Financial centers would lie in ruins. Government at every level would cease to function. US armed forces, stationed all around the globe, would no longer be resupplied. At a maximum, the entire landmass of the US would be covered by a layer of radioactive ash. We tell you this not to be alarmist, but because, based on everything we know, we are ourselves alarmed. If attacked, Russia will not back down; she will retaliate, and she will utterly annihilate the United States.

The US leadership has done everything it could to push the situation to the brink of disaster. First, its anti-Russian policies have convinced the Russian leadership that making concessions or negotiating with the West is futile. It has become apparent that the West will always support any individual, movement or government that is anti-Russian, be it tax-cheating Russian oligarchs, convicted Ukrainian war criminals, Saudi-supported Wahhabi terrorists in Chechnya or cathedral-desecrating punks in Moscow. Now that NATO, in violation of its previous promises, has expanded right up to the Russian border, with US forces deployed in the Baltic states, within artillery range of St. Petersburg, Russia’s second-largest city, the Russians have nowhere left to retreat. They will not attack; nor will they back down or surrender. The Russian leadership enjoys over 80% of popular support; the remaining 20% seems to feel that it is being too soft in opposing Western encroachment. But Russia will retaliate, and a provocation or a simple mistake could trigger a sequence of events that will end with millions of Americans dead and the US in ruins.

Unlike many Americans, who see war as an exciting, victorious foreign adventure, the Russians hate and fear war. But they are also ready for it, and they have been preparing for war for several years now. Their preparations have been most effective. Unlike the US, which squanders untold billions on dubious overpriced arms programs such as the F-35 joint task fighter, the Russians are extremely stingy with their defense rubles, getting as much as 10 times the bang for the buck compared to the bloated US defense industry. While it is true that the Russian economy has suffered from low energy prices, it is far from being in shambles, and a return to growth is expected as early as next year. Senator John McCain once called Russia “A gas station masquerading as a country.” Well, he lied. Yes, Russia is the world’s largest oil producer and second-largest oil exporter, but it is also world’s largest exporter of grain and nuclear power technology. It is as advanced and sophisticated a society as the United States. Russia’s armed forces, both conventional and nuclear, are now ready to fight, and they are more than a match for the US and NATO, especially if a war erupts anywhere near the Russian border.

But such a fight would be suicidal for all sides. We strongly believe that a conventional war in Europe runs a strong chance of turning nuclear very rapidly, and that any US/NATO nuclear strike on Russian forces or territory will automatically trigger a retaliatory Russian nuclear strike on the continental US. Contrary to irresponsible statements made by some American propagandists, American antiballistic missile systems are incapable of shielding the American people from a Russian nuclear strike. Russia has the means to strike at targets in the USA with long-range nuclear as well as conventional weapons.

The sole reason why the USA and Russia have found themselves on a collision course, instead of defusing tensions and cooperating on a wide range of international problems, is the stubborn refusal by the US leadership to accept Russia as an equal partner: Washington is dead set on being the “world leader” and the “indispensable nation,” even as its influence steadily dwindles in the wake of a string of foreign policy and military disasters such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen and the Ukraine. Continued American global leadership is something that neither Russia, nor China, nor most of the other countries are willing to accept. This gradual but apparent loss of power and influence has caused the US leadership to become hysterical; and it is but a small step from hysterical to suicidal. America’s political leaders need to be placed under suicide watch.

First and foremost, we are appealing to the commanders of the US Armed Forces to follow the example of Admiral William Fallon, who, when asked about a war with Iran, reportedly replied “not on my watch.” We know that you are not suicidal, and that you do not wish to die for the sake of out-of-touch imperial hubris. If possible, please tell your staff, colleagues and, especially, your civilian superiors that a war with Russia will not happen on your watch. At the very least, take that pledge yourselves, and, should the day ever come when the suicidal order is issued, refuse to execute it on the grounds that it is criminal. Remember that according to the Nuremberg Tribunal “To initiate a war of aggression… is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” Since Nuremberg, “I was just following orders” is no longer a valid defense; please don’t be war criminals.

We also appeal to the American people to take peaceful but forceful action to oppose any politician or party that engages in irresponsible, provocative Russia-baiting, and that condones and supports a policy of needless confrontation with a nuclear superpower that is capable of destroying America in about an hour. Speak up, break through the barrier of mass media propaganda, and make your fellow Americans aware of the immense danger of a confrontation between Russia and the US.

There is no objective reason why US and Russia should consider each other adversaries. The current confrontation is entirely the result of the extremist views of the neoconservative cult, whose members were allowed to infiltrate the US Federal government under President Bill Clinton, and who consider any country that refuses to obey their dictates as an enemy to be crushed. Thanks to their tireless efforts, over a million innocent people have already died in the former Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, the Ukraine, Yemen, Somalia and in many other countries—all because of their maniacal insistence that the USA must be a world empire, not a just a regular, normal country, and that every national leader must either bow down before them, or be overthrown. In Russia, this irresistible force has finally encountered an immovable object. They must be forced to back down before they destroy us all.

We are absolutely and categorically certain that Russia will never attack the US, nor any EU member state, that Russia is not at all interested in recreating the USSR, and that there is no “Russian threat” or “Russian aggression.” Much of Russia’s recent economic success has a lot to do with the shedding of former Soviet dependencies, allowing her to pursue a “Russia first” policy. But we are just as certain that if Russia is attacked, or even threatened with attack, she will not back down, and that the Russian leadership will not “blink.” With great sadness and a heavy heart they will do their sworn duty and unleash a nuclear barrage from which the United States will never recover. Even if the entire Russian leadership is killed in a first strike, the so-called “Dead Hand” (the “Perimetr” system) will automatically launch enough nukes to wipe the USA off the political map. We feel that it is our duty to do all we can to prevent such a catastrophe.

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RozKo's picture

The elites want the US destroyed, the NWO is European in make up and nature with its socialist systems. Many US citizens would fight and die for their freedoms and the elites know this, what better way to solve the problem then to have Russia or China wipe out the population. Its like suicide by cop... 

LykeMe's picture
LykeMe (not verified) RozKo Jun 3, 2016 8:47 PM

The real truth about the conflict with Russia NO ONE DARES to mention.


GeezerGeek's picture

Stop obfuscating your web site URL. We're wise to you. Time to switch to a different name perhaps?

It's too bad that, while messing with the web page design these last few days, they didn't add a feature to allow us individually to suppress comments from commenters we wish to ignore.

weburke's picture

blame the people 


electronic voting, and lying media

0b1knob's picture

"Russia has suffered a great deal at the hands of foreign invaders, losing 22 million people in World War II. "

Perhaps the "peace loving" Russians would have been a little more prepared for WWII if they hadn't been busy invading Finland (1939) and carving up Poland with their GOOD buddies the Nazis.   Stalin was so stupid that he trusted Hitler right up to the invasion.


Troy Ounce's picture


A paid trol trying to influence the discussion with nonsense.


The above article can be summed up in the following graph. Look at it and ask yourself: "who is the agressor"?




WordSmith2013's picture

How the USA became a Psychopathocracy




"They are all criminally insane psycopaths beyond a certain level of leadership.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

Yeah, keep listening to Robert douchebag Kagan and his wretched equally war mongering wife Vicki

scintillator9's picture

There was also that tendency of Stalin to purge his military.




Not unlike what is happening within the US military.





Oracle 911's picture

Sadly at least 3 things are omitted in your sources:

1st Stalin was aware that the war is coming due two reason. First he read the Russian translation of the Hitler's Mein Kampf. Second everybody who have a functioning brain aka intellectual was aware that time Germany will start a new war.

2nd The Americans and British elites supported Hitler because no one said anything about the military build up, no one prevented Munich Agreement etc.

3rd The Soviet generals were traitorous bunch, they were preparing to sell Russia to their longtime enemies.

Uchtdorf's picture

It's all bankers' wars and unicorns. 

Vlad Tepid's picture

Stalin also wasn't Russian, soooooo....

Troy Ounce's picture



A Jesus nut under the American nuts. 

cherry picker's picture

A Jesus nut?

I don't read or see anywhere where Jesus is a NeoCon, has spy agencies, promotes the use of torture, idolizes anyone on this planet, owns a weapon or weapons of mass destruction, murders children with drones and last but not least is in love with coin.

You may not believe in God, that is your perogative, but don't put Jesus in the same category as American nuts.  The Chicago shootings, militarized police, metal detectors and police at schools describe pretty well what American nuts are about.


USD Petro-dollars all exhort "In God we trust." As an Anglican our orthodoxy is transmigration of souls and Christ is part of the Holy Trinity. One cannot separate Christ from God on the greenbacks which were all subject to inflation since the currency inception date. Seems to me that if God's name is lending endorsement to the fiat he should at least have the courtesy to dispense with it when it is inflated to worthless IMHO. One dollar USD does not have the purchasing power that it did half a century ago. Is Christ in on the deal when every church in the land collects donations from followers of Christianity that 'tithe' 10% of their income to maintain the mortgage on the leased land from the state?


In God we trust, but the Federal Reserve prints the money, and the 'Christians' launder the inflation because they all trust in God? Frankly, as a Christian, I would like to see the Federal Reserve remove the 'In God we trust." part on the fiat.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) RozKo Jun 3, 2016 8:46 PM

The Russians seem to be a bit delusional themselves and have been the ones raising the prospects of conflict.  Check out this story on their submarine tacktics of late:


Winston Churchill's picture

You sir are a carricuture of exceptional stupidity.

So sneaky of the Russians to have moved their country to threaten NATO bases.

NATO musy respond at once to this aggression.



Duc888's picture



Who's delusional?  Who parades an Ageis cruiser in the Black sea?



Winston Churchill's picture

Duped whilst trying to correct spelling.

A little buggy Tyler.

yogibear's picture

It's really the US and NATO that have become delusional. Robert Kagan and Victoria Inland have been touting that a nuke war is winnable. Western weapon systems have been positioned right on Russia's borders. How would you view Russia placing their weapons right on the Canadian and Mexican borders? Putin has been reacting to a threat, although the media presents him as a bad guy.

diniweidrwydd's picture

The media is another weapon instead of being neutral as it should be.

chunga's picture

The elites want Russia destroyed. You've got that backwards.

old naughty's picture

...and they have been trying for centuries; and still trying hard...

care not if -ians died off by the millions !


Master: "useless idiots."


Us? Useful idiots (counting those of us blogging here).

weburke's picture

the elites are the same nomeclature that have russia in an iron grip.

zhandax's picture

Chunga,  surely I misunderstand you.  The Russians want our elites destroyed?  How is that a bad thing?  Considering we, the people, are well enough armed to repel anyone?.

Slomotrainwreck's picture

THIS article (and comment) is the best, most informative and motivational thread that I have ever experienced at Zero Hedge. We need more of this in the media.


bthunder's picture

All you, Russians who live in the USA but hate everything that USA stands for, why don't you go THE FUCK BACK where you came from? Why remain in the USA if you hate it so much and are afraid that you'll be obliterated by the Putins nukes?
Go the Fuck back to Russia!

Escrava Isaura's picture

Orlov is not in the US. He’s in Costa Rica.


Graph's picture

Even if not in Costa Rica, Orlov is supposed to pack just because idiot above had said so ?

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Dude, just curious, why the avatar of an old Tito pic?

Graph's picture

One reason of many:

Google him. look in the pictures of a man, specially from WWII, with "if eyes are window to man's soul" in mind.

Compare that to US "guys" with same job description if you want to roll on the carpet with laughter.

GeezerGeek's picture

First, where did you get the impression that "Russians who live in the USA but hate everything that USA stands for" were part of the article? I must have missed all that hate.

Second, stop being so blatantly racist. Assuming you were correct about some "Russians who live in the USA but hate everything that USA stands for" correct, would that make them any different from all the Mexicans who live in the USA but hate everything that USA stands for? Did I miss the pictures of little Russian children in Alaska holding signs saying "Make America Russia Again"? Or even "Make Alaska Russian Again"? If it is racist to attact those Mexicans, it must also be racist to attack any Russians on similar grounds.

Time for you to check yourself into a reeducation camp. And perhaps an anger management class, too.


Freddie's picture

Putin is a blue eyed Christian like me.  What he says (common sense) speaks to me far more than the scum in Wash DC, Pentagon or the State Department.   The Russians do not want war but they are tired of seeing people in small countries murdered by NeoCons.  The same Neocons destroying America, Europe and the rest of the West.

The author is correct.  Putin and the Russians will not be backed into a corner by anyone.  They have start of the art shit and a fairly educated populace.  They are a nation of people who do not have their pants falling down or who are on Facebook every second.  Witness the NovoRussians in eastern Ukraine (DPR, LPR).  They started as farmer/miners milita protec ting them selves from Yatz/Porky/Soros/McCain/Nudelman zio cones.  At this point - DRP/LPR could kick probably every European countrys army's ass including the UK and Germany.  The Russians and nonoRussians are serious people who do not f**k around.

Russia has been a Christian country for 1100 years.  They had a 80 year period when non-Christians took over backed by NYC, London and German banksters.  This eveil non-Christian vermin murdered 25 million Christian Russians.

Victoria Nudelman, her husband Kagin, Soros, Zuckerberg, Bezos, and the rest of their ilk inclcuing the State Dept and See Eye Aye are descedned from those Bolsheviks who murdered 25 million Christians.

Captain Chlamydia's picture

Ignorance is bliss. Ain't it? 

BtThunder. Brainwashed Twat Thunder? 

PhoQ's picture

Sounds like somebody had his own take on reality slapped around a little.

Hans-Zandvliet's picture

Bthunder, you don't read and think in a very logical way.


Just because Orlov (who, being a Russian himself, understands Russia infinitely better than Americans like you) warns America's leaders and people for the mistakes they are making regarding Russia, doesn't mean that Orlov hates the USA. Quite to the contrary: it's proof of Orlov's concern with the USA's wellbeing. If Orlov truely hated the USA, he would:

1) not be living in the USA in the first place.

2) not spoil Russia's surprize (counter)attack, by warning the USA against it, in order to enjoy watching it.


And let me guess why he's preparing a refuge in Costa Rica: Orlov guesses that his warnings will only be spat upon (by too many ill-informed people like you) and hence that nuclear obliteration of the USA will eventually happen and thus that it's prudent to prepare a refuge in Costa Rica.

Raging Debate's picture

I want more Russians here. They add to the econony, mind there own business and don't ask for welfare. Same as the Chinese. Russia did overplay its hand on energy gains they had made but really, instead of spending $9 trillion to subsidize bankers, that should have been applied to an Apollo program of energy independence. Some was done, thankfully. As an American, I can say in any business, never have a single point of failure. Our energy policy or lack thereof based on graft created these problems. 

 Putin is Geronimo with the bomb, best to back off and assist Europe in becoming more energy independent rapidly. I have bags of beans and other preps for this one potential blow out. Lets hope cooler heads prevail but I am not taking chances. The Russians beside energy posses a lot of raw intellect. We are now few decades from finishishing our evolution and partnering with there minds would help that goal along. Unfortunately, sociopaths rise to power and while we Americans are starting to purge them, it might be too little too late. 

Escrava Isaura's picture

Orlov: We also appeal to the American people to take peaceful but forceful action to oppose any policy of needless confrontation with a nuclear superpower


Good luck with that Orlov:

In the past five years, for example, support for increased defense spending has more than tripled among conservative Republicans, from 20 percent to 67 percent. Among Trump supporters, the number is 66 percent. By contrast, only 16 percent of those who “feel the Bern” want to increase the Pentagon’s budget; 43 percent prefer to cut it. Here is the link.




Lonesome Crow's picture

And maybe a breakdown of how much "defensive" spending is spent on offense (as the best defense, of course) would be warranted?

But is the argument that citizens in any nation now living on the threshold of scientific annihilation who acknowledge this fact should look away and shrug off the potential danger simply because actuality has yet to arrive?

old naughty's picture

There !                        


          /useless idiots \

       / useful still idiots \




(as if we useful idiots could wrestle with budgets or directional propaganda)

DontGive's picture

Might have a look who bankrolls foreignaffairs.

Let me help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Affairs

CFR bankrolling "journalism" is like the wolves bankrolling a publication about sheep being "the boogeyman".

Sorry about short circuiting your brain. Here, maybe this will make you feel better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyEXV5fZTrY

Stu Elsample's picture

If the U.S. military branches haven't done their constitutional duty to arrest such traitors then we are truly fucked.

OldPhart's picture

Sideways, with no lube.

Duc888's picture



I'm still waitin' for those so called "Oathkeepers" to start oathin', or keepin', or what ever they oathed about.... just not seein' it happen.  It's long overdue.  Let the fucking missiles fly already.  STFU and get it over with.  I got beer to drink.

ebworthen's picture

Thank you Mr. Orlov,


Americans "love" war only because they have lost few, and never truly had their home soil invaded and so many millions slaughtered.


It is reckless hubris, ignorant pride, that foists such a tragic mind-set upon the feeble minded masses of the U.S.


How clearer could it be that the U.S., as well as Europe, have so much to gain from an alliance with Russia - and so much to lose in petty imperialism in the Middle East and the wholesale sell-out of manufacturing, electronics, and the disease of Central Banking to Asia?


No better ally could civilized U.S. and European Christians have against the rabid Islamic threat and the mostly Godless masses of Asia - and yet we turn a blind eye and dull minds to our Brethren in Russia.


Folly, if ever there was folly.

Oath_Keeper's picture

Most of the article was propaganda, make no mistake the destruction would be equally felt. Why we (America) do not really try to ally with Russia is my question. What are the negatives to doing so?