US Government Intentionally Destroys 9/11 Evidence

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Judges and lawyers know that – if someone intentionally destroys evidence – he’s probably trying to hide his crime.  American law has long recognized that destruction of evidence raises a presumption of guilt for  the person who destroyed the evidence.

So what does it mean when the US government intentionally destroyed massive amounts of evidence related to 9/11?

Judge and Prosecutor Destroy Evidence

For example, it was revealed last week that the judge overseeing the trial of surviving 9/11 suspects conspired with the prosecution to destroy evidence relevant to a key suspect’s defense. And see this.

(The Defense Department has also farmed out most of the work of both prosecuting and defending the surviving 9/11 suspects to the same private company.  And the heads of the military tribunal prosecuting the 9/11 suspects said that the trials must be rigged so that there are no acquittals.)

Destruction of Videotapes

The CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

And:

Daniel Marcus, a law professor at American University who served as general counsel for the Sept. 11 commission and was involved in the discussions about interviews with Al Qaeda leaders, said he had heard nothing about any tapes being destroyed.

 

If tapes were destroyed, he said, “it’s a big deal, it’s a very big deal,” because it could amount to obstruction of justice to withhold evidence being sought in criminal or fact-finding investigations.

Destruction of Air Traffic Control Tapes

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times.

Black Boxes

The FBI long ago found and analyzed the “black box” recorders from the airplanes which hit the Twin Towers, but has consistently denied that they were ever found.

Pentagon Fibs

The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements.

Soviet-Style “Minders”

The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses (and see this).

In other words, the minders obstructed witnesses from openly and candidly talking about what they knew.

Undermining Investigation

President Bush and Vice-President Cheney took the rare step of personally requesting that congress limit all 9/11 investigation solely to “intelligence failures.”

The administration also opposed the creation of a 9/11 commission. Once it was forced (by pressure from widows of 9-11 victims) to allow a commission to be formed, the administration appointed as executive director an administration insider, whose area of expertise is the creation and maintenance of “public myths” thought to be true, even if not actually true, who was involved in pre-9/11 intelligence briefings, and who was one of the key architects of the “pre-emptive war” doctrine. This executive director, who controlled what the Commission did and did not analyze, then limited the scope of the Commission’s inquiry so that the overwhelming majority of questions about 9/11 remained unasked (see this and this).

The administration then starved the commission of funds.  The government spent $175 million – over $300 million in today’s dollars – investigating the Challenger space shuttle disaster. It spent $152 million on the the Columbia disaster investigation. It spent $30 million investigating the Monica Lewinsky scandal. But the government only authorized $15 million for the 9/11 Commission.

The government also failed to provide crucial documents to the 9/11 investigators. And see this.

The government refused to share much information with the Commission, refused to force high-level officials to testify under oath, and allowed Bush and Cheney to be questioned jointly.

Moreover, as reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents shows that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

The 9-11 Commission took this warning to heart, and refused to examine virtually any evidence which contradicted the administration’s official version of events. As stated by the State Department’s Coordinator for Counterterrorism – who was the point man for the U.S. government’s international counterterrorism policy in the first term of the Bush administration – “there were things the [9/11] commissions wanted to know about and things they didn’t want to know about.

Saudi Role

Investigation into Saudi government aid to 9/11 conspirators was also obstructed.

For example, Philip Shenon – the 20-year New York Times reporter who wrote a book on the 9/11 Commission – reports:

The [911] commissioner said the renewed public debate could force a spotlight on a mostly unknown chapter of the history of the 9/11 commission: behind closed doors, members of the panel’s staff fiercely protested the way the material about the Saudis was presented in the final report, saying it underplayed or ignored evidence that Saudi officials – especially at lower levels of the government – were part of an al-Qaida support network that had been tasked to assist the hijackers after they arrived in the US.In fact, there were repeated showdowns, especially over the Saudis, between the staff and the commission’s hard-charging executive director, University of Virginia historian Philip Zelikow, who joined the Bush administration as a senior adviser to the secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, after leaving the commission. The staff included experienced investigators from the FBI, the Department of Justice and the CIA, as well as the congressional staffer who was the principal author of the 28 pages.

 

Zelikow fired a staffer, who had repeatedly protested over limitations on the Saudi investigation, after she obtained a copy of the 28 pages outside of official channels. Other staffers described an angry scene late one night, near the end of the investigation, when two investigators who focused on the Saudi allegations were forced to rush back to the commission’s offices after midnight after learning to their astonishment that some of the most compelling evidence about a Saudi tie to 9/11 was being edited out of the report or was being pushed to tiny, barely readable footnotes and endnotes. The staff protests were mostly overruled.

 

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But Kean, Hamilton and Zelikow clearly do not speak for a number of the other commissioners, who have repeatedly suggested they are uncomfortable with the perception that the commission exonerated Saudi Arabia and who have joined in calling for public release of the 28 pages.

Indeed, an FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House.

As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

Letting Terrorists Go Free

A former FBI translator who Senators Leahy and Grassley, among others, have claimed is credible, and who the administration has gagged for years without any logical basis — has stated that “this administration knowingly and intentionally let many directly or indirectly involved in that terrorist act [September 11th] go free – untouched and uninvestigated”?

Destruction of Physical Evidence

The former head of fire science and engineering for the agency responsible for finding out why the Twin Towers and World Trade Center 7 collapsed on 9/11 (the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology) – who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, with a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering – wrote that evidence necessary to determine the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Centers was being destroyed. And see this.

In addition, the official investigators themselves were largely denied access to the site and the evidence contained there, or even access to such basic information as the blueprints for the World Trade Center.

The government has also refused to release the computer models showing how the trade centers fell, making it impossible for anyone to double-check its assumptions.

Whether you believe the Twin Towers and World Trade Center building 7 were brought down with explosives or by airplanes and fires, destroying evidence prevented engineers and scientists from figuring out what went wrong … to prevent skyscrapers from collapsing in the future.

9/11 Commissioners Disgusted … and Call For a New Investigation

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

  • The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”
  • The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”
  • The Co-Chair of the congressional investigation into 9/11 – Bob Graham – and 9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerrey are calling for either a “PERMANENT 9/11 commission” or a new 9/11 investigation to get to the bottom of it
  • 9/11 Commissioner John Lehman says that a new investigation should be “vigorously pursued

Planting False Evidence

Planting false evidence is another act which creates presumption of guilt.

The type of torture used by the U.S. on alleged surviving 9/11 co-conspirators is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating FALSE confessions. (and see this, this, this and this).

According to NBC News:

  • Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured
  • At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured”
  • One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
  • The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

Pulitzer-prize winning reporter Seymour Hersh – who broke the Iraq torture and Vietnam massacre stories – writes:

Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists’ identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, “Whatever trail was left was left deliberately — for the F.B.I. to chase".

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Jackagain's picture

George Washington for President - 2016

HeyThere's picture

3 support buildings at the (Shanksville, PA) FLIGHT 93 MEMORIAL burned to the ground on October 3, 2014. Inside those buildings were "personal items" supposedly "carried by Flight 93 passengers" (eg. passports; boarding passes; drivers licenses). Did someone want those pieces of physical "evidence" to disappear? This way, they cannot be subpoenaed as evidence, since they got "destroyed" in the fire. (MORE HERE) http://bit.ly/1UseDVv

Vendetta's picture

everything in the US has gone so well ever since that day  ...

Hannibal's picture

US asks Russia (again) NOT to target Al-Qaeda branch in Syria –

https://www.rt.com/news/345378-russia-us-nusra-extremists-syria/ "...a coordinated attack against the Islamic State and al-Qaeda and for peace in Syria. Indeed, as Lavrov explains, the U.S. has again asked to spare al-Qaeda from Russian air strikes".... http://www.moonofalabama.org/

Duc888's picture

 

 

CIA whistleblower.  America creates it's own terrorists.

  Al CIA da is fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ

 

Radical Marijuana's picture

Regarding any conspiracy like 9/11 there are two phases. The first is what is actually done, while the second is to control the investigation, in order to prevent discovery of what actually happened, while simultaneously creating the false narrative about what was supposed to have happened. It is easy to get away with a crime, if one can control the subsequent investigation of that crime, such as summarily destroy evidence, and not allow any proper forensic examination of that destroyed evidence, and so and so forth ...

While it is difficult to discern what actually happened, since so much evidence was summarily destroyed, and no proper criminal investigations were allowed to happen, it is possible to determine who had the official legal power in order to enable that destruction of evidence and obstruction of the proper legal procedures to happen. Anyone willing and able to take at least a few hundred hours, if not a few thousand hours, could generate a list of the people with official public powers who participated in the cover-up and the dissemination of the false official story about what happened.

My own efforts to do so were recorded in this long thread 9/11. However, the main conclusions that one comes to through those processes are that civilization has already become terminally sick and insane, due to the degree that everything is controlled through entrenched systems based upon enforcing frauds, that are becoming exponentially more fraudulent. Civilization operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime. The excessive successfulness of doing that has driven civilization to manifest runaway criminals insanities. The events on 9/11 were merely the most spectacular symbol, so far, of the ways that the combined money/murder systems actually work, through vicious spirals of political funding enforcing frauds, which have become exponentially more fraudulent.

The US government intentionally destroyed evidence regarding 9/11 because those events were an inside job, false flag attack. The more one learns about that, the worse it gets. Civilization controlled through the excessive successfulness achieved by enforcing frauds becomes increasingly psychotic. There are no ways to resolve that situation than through eventual psychotic breakdowns. Welcome to the Bizarro Mirror World Wonderland Matrix Folks. Everything here operates in the most absurdly backward ways possible. Since everything that civilization does became based on a long history of backing up lies with violence, as Orwell wrote, people are brainwashed to perceive that "2 + 2 = 5"

In order to believe in the official story regarding what happened on 9/11 one has to agree to deliberately ignore the basic laws of physics. But then, in order to agree with the established systems whereby public governments enforce frauds by private banks, by making the public "money" supplies out of nothing as debts, one also has to agree to deliberately ignore the conservation of energy, and misunderstand the concept of entropy in absurdly backward ways.

There are no good grounds to expect anything else than that those trends will continue to automatically get worse, faster, until those cause series of psychotic breakdowns. The overall, as well as underlying, situation is orders of magnitude worse than the various well-documented articles by George Washington indicate, because the degree to which the vast majority of people have been brainwashed to believe that "2 + 2 = 5" is far more profound than authors like George Washington tend to present:

"So what does it mean when the US government intentionally destroyed massive amounts of evidence related to 9/11?"

That spectacularly symbolized the degree to which the government of the USA necessarily became the biggest form of organized crime and terrorism, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals and terrorists. Those apparent anomalies actually mean that we should go through profound paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceive political problems, which are based upon series of intellectual scientific revolutions, that apply to political science, in order to come to better terms with the degree to which the runaway social successfulness based upon being able to enforce frauds has resulted in almost everyone almost totally thinking in ways that take for granted the metaphorical summary of that situation being such that "2 + 2 =5" ...

It is barely possible to exaggerate the degree to which the biggest bullies' biggest lies dominate the ways that people think and communicate regarding practically everything, such that, in almost every way, civilization is dominated by fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems, such that almost every economic decision is made in ways that presume that "2 + 2 = 5" is a correct statement. To the same degree that political events since 9/11 have been controlled by huge lies, so too, everything else that civilization actually does metaphorically amounts to almost everyone acting upon the basis that they mostly agree that "2 + 2 = 5" ... Hence, my opinion that 9/11 was the most spectacular symbol, so far, of the ways that the globalized Neolithic Civilization has become runaway criminal insanities, which are headed towards series of severe psychotic breakdowns.

Even more so than it is politically impossible for the established systems to admit and address the facts that 9/11 was an inside job, false flag attack, it is even more politically impossible to admit and address how that was merely spectacularly symbolic of the degree to which everything else regarding the ways that the vast majority of people think and communicate are drowning in bullshit. 9/11 was done by increasingly psychotic psychopaths, which events worked way too successfully against the majority of people, who have become increasingly impotent political idiots.

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ISawThatToo (not verified) Jun 5, 2016 1:18 PM

However, they can't put the Mossad agents dancing across the river, and the impossibility of the four collapsed buildings, in the "Memory Hole."

Lorca's Novena's picture

Thank you for this GW, we need to keep the momentum going on exposing the big lie. 

+10,000

rlouis's picture

Thanks George, excellent article.  

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Well GW

When they start shutting down "501c3" science supported site(s) like this and this and labeling those who support their endeavors for truth "terrorists"... you know the circle will be completed.

Based on the plethora of information you provided here alone, I'd say that we are fast approaching that day of reckoning!

Always been and will always be about "us and them" And how many are willing to tip the scales to the side that is a refuge for sanity and peace!

. . . _ _ _ . . .'s picture

Not to change the subject, but don't forget about this one.

 

. . . _ _ _ . . .'s picture

Double destruction of evidence as witnessed by the Chicago Sun Times (and the CBC, and MSNBC) who removed the story from their website. Thanks to the way-back machine!!

 

"President Bush and Vice-President Cheney took the rare step of"

Is this a failed link or is it part of the next one?

 

In this part, "Letting Terrorists Go Free", do you mean the Israelis?

 

And in this part, "Planting False Evidence", let's not forget the magic passport.

 

There was also the matter of videotape from the airports where the 'highjackers' were said to have boarded as well as the lack of any of their names on passenger lists.

 

 

Good article. Thanks!

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The following was written by The Informer (http://www.thinkorbebeaten.com/)

 

REALITY


The cold reality of truth hits you when you see your freedom and liberty taken from you by reprobates. Reprobates abound in this country, so much so that they permeate the legislative, executive and judicial branches of an entity called government. Who are reprobates? All lawyers and the king and his congress or state legislators. The Almighty, called different names by various religions, asked the people why they wanted a king? After they gave their reasons He said fine, but you can't have two masters so don't expect anything from me. Well in today’s world the people's king is the president of the United States. They had the governors of the states as their first king until the United States took control of the states and made them political subdivisions. The people, not all by the way, view the various kings with awe. They vote the governors and president into office at election time. They have no idea they are the chief executive officers (CEO) of a corporation, just like the CEO of General Motors. How can they be free when they elect the king and his knights (congress or legislatures of the states, who in turn dictate to the people what, when, where, and how to live their lives? They don't tell the people why.


The people become slaves and peons to the corporation they vote into. They just can't pull out like when they own stock in GM and call it in. It is different, because whom do the fall back on for their protection, other than themselves? Do they try to fall back on the Almighty? Yes, but what did the Almighty say 2000 years ago? Did you make your choice? Do you know why your prayers are not answered now? People want to be controlled because they would rather be secure, not take responsibility for their own lives. Now the king and his henchmen, which are the murderers and robber barons that Lysander Spooner talked about in his book, "No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority", hide behind that "government" veil for protection and claim you owe your soul to support their greed. They claim to follow the bylaws of their constitutions and claim that the constitution is YOURS, the peoples.


Of course this is nonsense and an absurdity at its ultimate. It's only yours if you join their commercial organization of law merchants. They tout that it protects you, but the cold hard reality hits home when you can't do the simple things like work without a license (SSN), traveling without getting a license, getting married without a license, building a private home without a permit, or fixing that home without getting a permit, paying a rent tax on property they claim you own, but in reality they do, just to name a few.


This corporation of CEO's, kings if you will, control Grand juries and their own courts. There is no such thing as the private people's courts wherein justice can be obtained. There are no courts for the people of America to protect their rights given to them by the Almighty. Why? Because they wanted another master, which turns out to be a commercial entity called government with their king president and/or governors. When the Constitution for the United States was created by those select few wanting to take control of the States, Patrick Henry said he was no longer a Virginian but only an American, see 1788 Virginia Debates.


I have been in the trenches for 10 years, on the front lines for 5 years. The only thing I have learned is that there is no foundational stability in the "patriot" movement. By that I mean, and the following questions has to lead into it because most all "patriots" understand this part. The non patriot does not. 


1.What are the two most important commandants that the others are based upon? 


2.Have you elected someone to take control over your life by representation? 

 

3.Did you vote for the corporate CEO of a State? 

 

4.Did you vote for the CEO of the main headquarters located in the city of Washington, D.C.? 

 

5.Do you know that even your county government is a political commercial subdivision of the state? 

 

6.Do you have control over your neighbors property? 

 

7.Can you limit his freedoms to work, travel and the like?

 

8.Does he have the same, if any, control over you? 

 

9.Have you elected someone in government, whether Federal, State, County or town to control his life? 

 

10.Why have you voted for a group of men in the county that have taken control over your neighbors property by taxing his land? 


11.Have you read II Kings 23:32, 33? 

 

12.Do you really know what the real reason the States and United States were created? 

 

13.For your protection? 

 

14.When your freedoms are taken, how is that protection? Think again!

 

15.When was the first time you ever thought and answered these question and had not done any research other than what other people have told you?


Putting all the yeses and no's together, side by side, how did you fare? If the yes outnumbered the no's, then why complain your rights have been taken? You got what you deserved when choosing a new master over the Almighty. If the no's outnumbered the yes's, then you are screwed by mob rule of democracy and there is nothing you can do about it. You will never win in the lawyer-merchant courts. That is the cold hard reality, believe me, I am living proof of that, as are thousands, if not millions of others in my position that the CEO's underlings have persecuted.


Grand Jury protection? Lets get real, as the many case law and state attorneys general will tell you, the Grand Jury is an arm of the court and controlled by the courts so the other reprobates, the prosecutors, can use it as their tool. This is why you can't get into a Grand Jury hearing to protect yourself. This hearing is nothing more than a probable cause hearing controlled by the executive branch lawyer prosecutor. The Attorney General of South Carolina told a man that in order for him to present a case to the State Grand Jury, he must first apply to the prosecutor to decide whether the complaint is worthy of presenting. This is not the people's Grand Jury, it is the commercial State's Grand Jury. Are you people, who are not "patriots", starting to see that YOU are the PROBLEM. Here is a case that states; "Grand Jury exercises broad investigative powers and generally has both right and duty to procure everyman's evidence." in re: Grand Jury, 821 F2d 946, since the very purpose of the Grand Jury is to ascertain probable cause, Blair v. U.S., 250 U.S. at 282.


If you are considered "everyman," why can't you appear at a grand jury investigating you? Because the kings you elected into office usurped power and decreed you lost your rights to present exculpatory evidence. You have a new master. This goes against what the court stated in Wood v. Georgia, 370 U.S. 375, 390, "Certainly the most celebrated function of the grand jury is to stand between the government and the citizen, and thereby protect the latter from harassment and unfounded prosecution." I believe in Hale v. Hinkle, 201 U.S. at 61, they said that your kings have "destroy[ed] the proper functioning of the grand jury, as it is to be the servant of neither the government, nor the courts, but of the people."


People, come on, use some logic. This can and has happened because YOU, the masses of asses voted your new master into office and allowed the king and his henchmen, all the way down to the county level, to sell you out to a greater king called the United Nations. This was done with the express cooperation of the reprobates (every member of the private bar assoc.) from 1947 to present. This allowed your vote to be used against you to be involved in a joint venture with other nations kings. Don't you just love what you did? I'm talking mostly to those who are not in my choir and patriots that love to be citizens (stockholders) of the commercial establishments called states. Now it is simple logic that tells you that if you are all of the same persuasion, you all can sit on the Grand or Petit Jury against other law merchant peers and can do secret hearings against them so they don't destroy your scam to control others that are not of your persuasion, HUH?


Now your representatives you elected can and have the right under YOUR by laws that you consented to at Article I, section 2, clause 3, to tax you and the same goes for the states. Representation and taxation goes together and you voluntarily consented. Just like the First Judiciary Act of 1789 stated that ALL jurisdiction is based upon consent. For the life of me, I still cannot understand why "patriots" still insist on becoming stockholders (citizens of) a particular commercial organization (state), when Patrick Henry refused to claim to be a citizen of the state of Virginia. He was a true Patriot, if that's what you want to label him. Didn't you voters join a "political party?" Have you ever read Albert J Nock's "Our Enemy the State?" Didn't he say the "political body" destroys rights and is not designed to protect rights? I think you better read it to get some foundational basis for "political body."


Land: Who provided the land you live on in the first place, those previous people elected into office? Try reading the Bible, again II Kings. Do your kings claim you owe them and their henchmen a tax to live on their land? Yup, they sure do because you consented to a new master who usurped the real master's position. Try reading Deuteronomy 17:14 to 20. What law should a king use according to scripture? Does your king abide by this Bible verse? Who took the land He gave you to live upon and claimed you owed "them" a tax? Who is "them?" Who voted "them" into office? Why? If you didn't vote "them" into office but your next door neighbor did, why did you allow him to hire thugs to steal your property when individually neither he nor you can? Did you vote "them" into office so you could steal your neighbor's property (money, etc.) to offset some debt "them" created for your welfare? If you did, then by your consent, freely given that you are the citizen (stockholder) who elected the CEO of the commercial political body to do as they wish to protect and support the commercial law merchant establishment at your and his expense. Just like the CEO of GM has to protect the corporation at the expense of the individual stockholder, even to the confiscation of some stock by manipulating stock buyouts. This is called inflation to control the citizen stockholder.

 

The real people who created this monstrosity called the states and United States, the law merchants, wrote the bylaws (constitutions) so that the law merchants would not be allowed to encroach upon non law merchants. As you can see, law merchants are crafty people. Look at used car salesmen and lawyers. If they can coerce or intimidate you into buying or using their services it is caveat emptor. If the king CEO and his henchmen (congress and legislators of states) can convince you that you are part of their system and you consent, so be it. Oh, they say, it's your duty to vote! Why don't you just come down to register? It's so easy and you would keep our party in power. We can't let the other side win and take away your rights, now can we? AHHH, shrewd criminals, aren't they. Remember, there was only one group of people and no "parties" in the beginning. Parties make no difference when the same commercial organization is to create debt.

 

SO, you want justice? If you believe that the people in general created the constitutions, (you do believe in Santa don't you?) then "we" have the right to form our own Grand Jury of America, indict the reprobates from the CEO all the way down to the lowly scum of the earth that the Almighty wished seven Woe's upon, the judges/lawyer merchants, and take back our country. We need the militia to be the equivalent of the U.S. Marshals, which, by the way is a private concern like the IRS, to enforce the arrest and trial of the usurpers and tyrants in our, the people's court under the law of the Almighty, Deut. 17:14. Kick out the United Nations. Create our own banks as was done in 1841 and 1846 to deal in real substance and totally control corporations that left this country and want to come back in when we start to prosper. KEEP THE INCOME TAX! What, you say? That's right it is a corporate income tax for those people who want limited liability to do business under license. After all how would this country and its law merchants survive in a commercial world? Put those on notice, the CEO and all those under him and Congress and State legislators that any more encroachments on the Liberty and Freedom of a private man would be treason and subject to either the death penalty or banishment from this country after all his possessions and wealth have been taken from him. Now, don't you think that will keep them on the straight and narrow? 

 

Oh, one thing more, no lawyers allowed in the congress or legislature, and none allowed in the executive branch of government. Furthermore, the violation of the practice of law be abolished. The next friend could represent you in OUR courts, which would be separate from the law merchants courts they have today.

 

The great writ of Habeas Corpus would be set up to assure it works. Judges would not have to be lawyers, just like it was in the old days of logic and common sense. The bane of mankind has always been lawyers, See Matthew 23 and Luke 11:27 to 54. As Bastiat said let's try freedom for a change, by limiting congress and legislators of states to two terms maximum at the mean average income of the American worker. That way they have to suffer with the laws they write as their only job is to protect this country from foreign invasion and from domestic invasion. We have been subjected to domestic invasion from foreign operatives. It is not a life time job to legislate no matter how good they seem to be. Plus they get no retirement, they go back out on the street and get a job like the rest of us.

 

Now let's touch briefly the great writ of habeas corpus. It is not what people in the patriot community thinks it is. It does not get you out of jail in three days or even twenty days. Generally those applying for writs of habeas fail. From 1947 to 1957 only 1.4% were successful. You can check this out in the case of Fay v Noia, 83 S.Ct. 822 (1963) which is one of the leading cases referred to in other cases. In most cases, if you were fortunate to be one of the 1.4% to win the release, it will not be immediate. The lawyer merchants have seen to it that the Federal District Courts will permit the State courts an opportunity to correct the constitutional error found by the District Court. Typically the district court will order the State court to retry you within a specific time frame and at the end of that time if they don't, then you are set free. Not what you thought it to be, is it? The way the courts work it could take months to upwards of two years. So forget about the great writ helping you. I know first hand what they can do and the above is correct as it happened to me and others I have come to know. You stand a better chance on appeal in their state appellate courts. How much better? Maybe 1.8%, but I'll go 2% to be safe.

 

What do you want people, cold hard reality or nice mushy lip service of what things ought to be? Even when I filed a 28 USC 1651 writ that does not require exhaustion of state remedies, the Federal Court still insisted on using a 28 USC 2254, even though I was not a state prisoner, not yet even to trial, and when convicted they still used 2254 even though I was not sentenced. I was in physical custody, but that is NOT required for a habeas. You can be on parole, 371 US 236; at large on ROR pending sentencing, 411 US 345; released on bail pending final disposition, 95 S.Ct. 886; or on probation, 372 F2d 641. 

 

The real question is how much restraint of one's Liberty is necessary before the right to apply for the writ is required. 

 

Remember, your failure to raise terms of federal constitutional questions can constitute a procedural default as only federal constitutional rights violated can apply to a habeas, Murry v Carrier, 106 S.Ct. 2639, 2547-2648 (1986). The king you elected controls everything. I even used the Magna Charta in a case and lost. The adversaries attorney commented to another attorney by letter, of which I have a copy, stating "So much for the Magna Charta." Well, what did you expect from law merchant reprobates?

 

Today the king you elected has abdicated his office and allowed one of his henchmen to take over. That is the governor of the International Monetary Fund doing business as the Secretary of the Treasury. This office holder, Robert Rubin, is the knight of the real king, the United Nations controlled by the World Bank owners. Who are they? The money changers!

 

Well what else do you want to hear, that He, the Almighty will come down and rapture you out of the mess YOU created by electing kings and joining their baal? Read Daniel 3:1 to 13. Let's face it, that is cold hard reality, and those "patriots" that really know what is going on, don't stand a snowballs chance in hell to correct it on winning in "THEM'S" courts. Never forget this people of minds like mine, all courts in this country ARE THEIR'S, they are NOT YOURS by any stretch of the imagination just like the constitution is not yours.

 

Lysander Spooner in a letter to Thomas F. Bayard in 1882, May 22, expressing the Constitution this way, which "THEM" can't, by any stretch of sophistry deny;


". . .for what is the Constitution? It is at best, a writing that was drawn up more than ninety years ago: was assented to at the time only by a small number of men: . . .Those men have long since been dead. They never had any right of arbitrary dominion over even their contemporaries; and they never had any over us. Their wills or wishes have no more rightful authority over us, than have the wills or wishes of men who lived before the flood. They never personally signed, sealed, acknowledged, or delivered, the instrument which they imposed upon the country as law. They never, in any open and authentic manner, bound even themselves to obey it, or made themselves personally responsible for the acts of their so-called agents under it. They had no natural right to impose it, as law, upon a single human being. The whole proceeding was pure usurpation. In practice, the Constitution has been an utter fraud from the beginning. Professing to have been `ordained and established' by `we the people of the United States,' it has never been submitted to them as individuals, for their voluntary acceptance or rejection." 

 

The final conclusion is stated by Bastiat in The Law; 

 

"God has given to men all that is necessary for them to accomplish their destinies. He has provided a social form as well as a human form. And these social organs of persons are so constituted that they will develop themselves harmoniously in the clean air of liberty. Away, then, with quacks and organizers! Away with their rings, chains, hooks, and pincers! Away with their artificial systems! Away with the whims of governmental administrators, their socialized projects, their centralization, their tariffs, their government schools, their state religions, their free credit, their bank monopolies, their regulations, their restrictions, their equalization by taxation, and their pious moralizations! 

 

And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgement of faith in God and His works."

 

Forget about 1983 actions, torts and the like as they are for those slaves involved in the system. Until we have formed our own courts of justice we will never prevail against the system. You can only use their courts to prevail against another slave.

 

The cold hard reality is that we have only two choices. ONE, form our own courts and police officers, which would be the militia, to enforce the rulings. TWO, follow what Thomas Jefferson had to say, 

 

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. ... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

 

and implement what Madison had to say in Federalist Paper #28. The Declaration of Independence rules over that miserable commercial document called the Constitution and spells out number two's choice in its second paragraph. Forget about the masses of asses who will scream you are the anarchists when overthrowing the constitution. In reality you are NOT overthrowing the constitution, you are getting rid of scummy reprobates that have already overthrown the constitution that is to keep "THEM" in check. Don't even think about doing it individually, because collectively we don't have six million people with conviction to oust the reprobate usurpers. This is the five percent of the population that equates to the five percent that fought the revolutionary war. But remember, then the enemy was an ocean away. Today you elected "THEM" into your back yard. Disgusting set of circumstances you put yourself into, HUH? And you, average Mr. and Mrs. America, are dragging the rest of us down with you. Again read Daniel 3. So, elect your king by voting them back into office so you can say, as you complain and grovel before them when you are forced to pay your "fair share" into the communistic takeover, Hail to the one world order.

 

Have a rotten day.


Written by the Informer, while in jail.

Crawdaddy's picture

Time well spent. Great post.

Secret Weapon's picture

Figure out why building #7 collapsed into its own footprint.  This is the key. Nice post G.W.  Thank you.

Duc888's picture

 

 

 

One group is conspicuously absent.

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

don't bother GW, 9/11 is history now, the wars and death and terror & police state that resulted ..are forever..kiss a TSA agent when you fly for me.

chunga's picture

Just chaulk gov up as one big perpetual lie.

MASTER OF UNIVERSE's picture

This is a very impressive article, George Washington. Moreover, when I see articles like this I get the sneaking suspicion that you are a trustworthy fellow. Frankly, you are one American that obviously has ethics, and because of that you need to be careful in terms of how much you push the establishment. Please believe me when I state that the establishment has no ethics whatsoever and they resent patriots like yourself that do.

 

+1000, GW.

Berspankme's picture

Until there are millions in the streets demanding change this will continue. Banana republic x2

delete entry's picture

so they were allegedly able to hide the evidence of the murder of a few thousand, there is plenty of evidence for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Irockies that nobody bothered to destroy.

backwaterdogs's picture

Would it even matter at all...it could be reinvestigated a dozen times revealing truth the us govt was not only complicit...but an active conspirator.i just don't think anyone cares.  I have tried to point out all the items, showed people how 000s of architect, engineers and pilos say the story is all bullshit...I've explained how trillions of dollars were stolen millions of lives lost, countless personal freedoms taken away, the financial freedom of our.children taken away.  Do you think anyone...any single person is even remotely disturbed?  No, they are not...there should be millions of us marching on dc...we should be executing bush Cheney Powell and the whole lot of them.  But  instead what happens?  Nothing, they are untouchable...the masses are braindead, the plan has worked, decades of indoctrination has worked.  They could machine gun down kids in school and no one would fight back.  We literally and utterly fucked.

 

 

 

 

True Blue's picture

That their government would do any of these things is a big cog. dis. hump (mountain) for many people to get over.

44magnum's picture

"We literally and utterly fucked." Thats just one more truth to add to the pile in our fucked up reality

philipat's picture

Just like the "investigation" of the MH017 "crash"??

Winston Churchill's picture

So now you understand why communists,gypsies,queers and jews wnt meekly onto the cattle cars, even

though they vastly outnumbered their captors.

Never follow the herd.

Winston Churchill's picture

So now you understand why communists,gypsies,queers and jews wnt meekly onto the cattle cars, even

though they vastly outnumbered their captors.

Never follow the herd.

JailBanksters's picture

As I see it.

We're the US Government and we can do what ever we want, when ever we want.

So what you going to do about it.

conscious being's picture

President Trumpo will get to the bottom of this. You know, punish the Perps, bring justice ... Not!

He loves the guys who did this. He said so himself.

Donald Trump’s AIPAC Speech: “I Love Israel” Global Research

Urban Roman's picture

Not to mention the thousands of tons of steel and concrete hastily picked up and shipped to China .. Nevermind, I see that it was mentioned.

Thousands of tons -- as if slipping a manila folder under a blotter-pad.

JailBanksters's picture

The Irony is, your probably driving around in some of the WTC evidence right now.

 

VWAndy's picture

The collecting up of all the video from the pentagone looks pretty bad too.

Thalamus's picture

Hell is hot for a reason

LibertarianMenace's picture

In a few years, 9-11 will never have happened.

Stormtrooper's picture

That's 7-11 Fred.  You know, snow cones.

Al Bondiga's picture

Brwando, the thirst mutilator!

HowdyDoody's picture

Soviet minder? THE USSR no longer exists. One country does run gluags, tortures people, runs show trials and wants to ruin/rule the world, and that is the US. So it should be a 'US minder'.

 

philipat's picture

How do you spell that in Hebrew?

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) philipat Jun 5, 2016 10:59 AM

never mind

Handful of Dust's picture

Millenials have the memory of a fruit fly. Ask any of these 'exceptional' Americans about the Veitnam War and get a blank stare.

 

The recent tests show 75% of millenials do not know whcih countries fought in WWII and fewer then 25% can pin-point Germany on a map of Europe.

 

It's the "Yes we can!" generation "Exceptionalism" where EVERYONE'S a winner!

To say otherwise is un-pc.

chunga's picture

What is this fascination with blaming everything on millenials as though all was well until they came along? It's a very strange phenomenon that makes no sense.

Al Bondiga's picture

Just more divide and rule bullsht brought to you by the usual suspects.

mkucstars's picture

And who edjucated these kids? Now you want to blame them.

VWAndy's picture

  They will throw anyone under the bus to keep from being hung. Not really all that suprizing. Its that crackhead logic again.