51% Of U.S. Muslims Want Sharia

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Submitted by Richard Spencer via JihadWatch.org,

Really, what did you expect?

A considerable portion of U.S. domestic and foreign policy is based on the assumption that Islam in the U.S. will be different: that Muslims here believe differently from those elsewhere, and do not accept the doctrines of violence against and subjugation of unbelievers that have characterized Islam throughout its history. But on what is that assumption based?

Nothing but wishful thinking. And future generations of non-Muslims will pay the price.

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“Meanwhile, An Islamic Fifth Column Builds Inside America,” by Paul Sperry, IBD, October 1, 2015 (thanks to Pamela Geller)

In berating GOP presidential hopeful Ben Carson for suggesting a loyalty test for Muslims seeking high office, CNN host Jake Tapper maintained that he doesn’t know a single observant Muslim-American who wants to Islamize America.

 

“I just don’t know any Muslim-Americans — and I know plenty — who feel that way, even if they are observant Muslims,” he scowled.

 

Tapper doesn’t get out much. If he did, chances are he’d run into some of the 51% of Muslims living in the U.S. who just this June told Polling Co. they preferred having “the choice of being governed according to Shariah,” or Islamic law. Or the 60% of Muslim-Americans under 30 who told Pew Research they’re more loyal to Islam than America.

 

Maybe they’re all heretics, so let’s see what the enlightened Muslims think.

 

If Tapper did a little independent research he’d quickly find that America’s most respected Islamic leaders and scholars also want theocracy, not democracy, and even advocate trading the Constitution for the Quran.

 

These aren’t fringe players. These are the top officials representing the Muslim establishment in America today.

 

Hopefully none of them ever runs for president, because here’s what he’d have to say about the U.S. system of government:

  • Muzammil Siddiqi, chairman of both the Fiqh Council of North America, which dispenses Islamic rulings, and the North American Islamic Trust, which owns most of the mosques in the U.S.: “As Muslims, we should participate in the system to safeguard our interests and try to bring gradual change, (but) we must not forget that Allah’s rules have to be established in all lands, and all our efforts should lead to that direction.
  • Omar Ahmad, co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the top Muslim lobby group in Washington: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”
  • CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”
  • Imam Siraj Wahhaj, director of the Muslim Alliance in North America: “In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing that will remain will be Islam.
  • Imam Zaid Shakir, co-founder of Zaytuna College in Berkeley, Calif.: “If we put a nationwide infrastructure in place and marshaled our resources, we’d take over this country in a very short time... What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims.”...

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These Islamic luminaries, who arguably spend more time with Muslims than Tapper, say the American Muslim community would rather live under a theocracy.

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cwwang01's picture

London will be a good test to see when the Sharia law will be adopted.

Billy the Poet's picture

Let me know when Muslims run the Federal Reserve and all major media and have three justices on the Supreme Court (soon to be four).

Cui bono?

Manic by Proxy's picture

So here is a simple exercise in logic regarding this topic. If Muslims wish to impose Sharia law, they are in essence renouncing the US Constitution and its laws. This violates the oath of citizenship. This therefore means they are defacto and actually not citizens. They are devoid of voting rights. They are personae non grata and  must be deported. So begin rounding them up. Now, we know that won't happen. But armed citizens could potentially decide on forming militias to achieve an analogous end. It seems likely by then that open revolt would be underway. God help us all.

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to United States of America

Oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

Billy the Poet's picture

By your logic Catholics and Jews have also renounced the Constitution which is ironic in light of the fact that the Supreme Court is composed entirely of Catholics and Jews

 

Applying God’s Law: Religious Courts and Mediation in the U.S.

 

Across the United States, religious courts operate on a routine, everyday basis. The Roman Catholic Church alone has nearly 200 diocesan tribunals that handle a variety of cases, including an estimated 15,000 to 20,000 marriage annulments each year  In addition, many Orthodox Jews use rabbinical courts to obtain religious divorces, resolve business conflicts and settle other disputes with fellow Jews. Similarly, many Muslims appeal to Islamic clerics to resolve marital disputes and other disagreements with fellow Muslims.

 

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/08/applying-gods-law-religious-courts-an...

 

 

As for the oath of allegiance consider the fact that the law against dual citizenship was struck down in 1967 in favor of an Israeli socialist.

 

"Before becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen, immigrants must take an oath that says, in part, "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen."

That language seems to firmly establish a principle of "one person, one country." But even though it sounds unequivocal, it is not. In fact, it is entirely possible for naturalized U.S. citizens to retain citizenship in another country, or for a native-born American to claim citizenship in a second country. On the face of it, this is an odd arrangement that challenges the notion that citizenship is an expression of national loyalty. How can a person be equally loyal to two countries?

Yet dual citizenship has been specifically sanctioned by the United States Supreme Court. In 1967, the court ruled that the State Department had violated the Constitution when it refused to issue a new U.S. passport to a U.S. citizen who had voted in an election in Israel. The decision overturned a law saying that "a person, who is a national of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voting in a political election in a foreign state."

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-dual-citizenship-2014122...

 

 

 

Al Gophilia's picture

Have the Catholics have any mention in the Constitution. Are they demanding a Catholic State within the United States or any other country?

Billy the Poet's picture

I don't see anything in the poll which says that Muslims want to turn the US into an Islamic State. There are some nut jobs in every religion and yes, you will find Christians who insist that the US is a "Christian nation."

Al Gophilia's picture

You look at polls to establish a political philosophy? WTF? It's little  wonder then that few on this thread can hold reasonable discours with you on this topic. Unfortunately, your red herring comments made in reply to comments here, used as misdirection (because they're typically flim-flam and non sequiturs), are the hallmark of a leftist mindset, which encouraged this movement of refugees through warm and fuzzy logic and  emotional blackmail.

Billy the Poet's picture

You look at polls to establish a political philosophy?

I thought we were discussing the article.  But we could talk about fly fishing if you prefer.

 

It's little  wonder then that few on this thread can hold reasonable discours with you on this topic.

You've noticed that too? Then maybe there's hope that you'll actually apply reason in this discussion.

 

the hallmark of a leftist mindset,

Too funny. You're the one who wants to set a precedent for religious discrimination in the US which would open the door for regulation on all religions. The social justice warriors thank you.

 

which encouraged this movement of refugees through warm and fuzzy logic and  emotional blackmail.

But I've never suggested that anyone should emigrate anywhere.  You continue to be delusional about the imaginary enemies you think you face.

Al Gophilia's picture

http://www.infowars.com/islamic-speaker-admits-killing-gays-is-a-belief-...

Let's talk about this why don't we? Just watch, read the article and extrapolate how a speech in Norway can affect the daily lifes of non muslims there, or for that matter, anywhere in the world they impress themselve upon). Note in the video, they do mention the world as their stage. 

Or this, http://www.infowars.com/islamic-speaker-admits-killing-gays-is-a-belief-...

I have never said anything about, and in fact noted that the Constitution granted religious freedom to all, which I support. You have a wierd interpretation of written text. 

My last quote that you highlighted is poorly structured, so I'll clarify. It's obvious to any observer that over the years, there has been a deliberate conspiracy by members of government and businessmen and other powerful elite, to prepare the west for a an influx of Muslims in great numbers. This conspiracy is evidenced through newspaper articles omitting identification of perpetrators of attacks by muslims, as the last link shows, as Obama shows (Radical Muslim denial) as Norwegian press and Swedish press and PC demands by government "authorities demand. You have got to be bling or willfully corrupted to not see as we see. 

Your arguements are flippant and insulting to many here but I'd like you to express your  views to any of the victim's living relatives. 

Your attempts of sounding rational are sewn with contempt through avoidance, similar to a politician, as if everyone is beneath you. We get enough of that garbage from our government handlers thanks. At least have the decency to respond directly ..........  or fuck off. 

cwwang01's picture

You better read your Quarn and visit your local mosque about whether they wish to turn US into a Islamic States of America.  Short answer is yes.

 

Billy the Poet's picture

Always look for the short answer before leaping up on a table, pulling up your skirt and shrieking. "Muslim! Muslim!"

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

 

Always look for the short answer before leaping up on a table, pulling up your skirt and shrieking. "Muslim! Muslim!"

Whaddaya expect? Any article that treats Pamela Geller as a credible source is just clickbait for kooks. As you can see, they're craling out of the woodwork.

This article is just like those turds squeezed out by The Gatestoned Institute except that "Jihadwatch" isn't a pretender to academic legitimacy like the aforementioned Vichy DC stink tank.

Now watch the downvotes accrue as this article draws kooks in the same way that shit draws flies.

Billy the Poet's picture

It is a disappointing trend but I guess it pays the bills.

MalteseFalcon's picture

Somebody said there was a "Clash of Civilizations" between the west and Islam.

The west and Islam were incompatible.

This was the excuse to launch 15 years+ of murderous warfare (on going) in the Middle East.

Now these same people are rapidly importing Muslims into the US and Europe.

So we fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here.

If you fought them there, please be so kind as to welcome them here.

malek's picture

Nice to see a lone voice looking beyond the presented narrative.

Colonel's picture

And always defending the Muzzies while in real time they establish Sharia law wherever they invade. 

J_Peterman's picture

The US is a Christian nation and always has been - no matter how many times you or the liberal MSM state otherwise.

IronForge's picture

Demanding?  They're Usurping.

6 of 9 SCOTUS Justices are Catholic or have been through the Catholic Education System.

Rule of Law is compromised when the USA can't prosecute Child Abusing Clergy protected by the RCC/VAT.

Georgetown (my Brother's Alma Mater, BTW - Full Disclosure of relations - my Late Father didn't know better) has a School to crank out Foreign Service / State Dept Agents.  A Religious School doing this - I'm surprised that they're even accepted.

BlindMonkey's picture

Former or nominally religious schools like Georgetown do not mean that they produce graduates steeped in the morality of Christianity.  The draw of secular federal dollars is very powerful and their location in the nexus of fiat money guarantees they have succumbed to it.

cwwang01's picture

 

Issue here is the Catholic, Jews, or Christians do not impose their religious law upon non-believers.  Islam impose its Shria law upon everyone and anyone on this earth that they deem to be against Allah.

Billy the Poet's picture

Islam impose its Shria law upon everyone and anyone on this earth that they deem to be against Allah.

 

I'm an atheist but no one has imposed Sharia Law on me. I'm sorry to hear that you have personally been subjected to Sharia Law against your will. Tell me all about it.

dogismycopilot's picture

Well, I guess you definately won't be visiting Saudi or Dearborn then

The atheist who does good deeds is worse than the one who kills his mother and takes care of dogs

Praise be to Allaah. 

It is the matter of common sense that man has been created, and the created being must have a Creator. The Creator of man is Allaah, Who created the heavens and the earth, and created all things. Man has to acknowledge this reality. It is also the matter of common sense that the Creator of this universe is the One who deserves to be worshipped, obeyed, feared, hoped and loved. This means that the one who does not acknowledge this truth is an atheist and a denier, and is ignorant and corrupt; his intellect is less than human. Whoever does not submit truly as a slave to Allaah, Who has created the heavens and the earth, but is too proud to worship Him, or worships some created being alongside Him, is refusing to worship Allaah, or is a mushrik (one who associates others in worship with Him). Both the one who refuses to worship Allaah and the one who associates others in worship with Him are kaafirs (disbelievers), like atheists and deniers. Whoever denies the Creator or refuses to worship Him, or joins others in worship with Him, deserves the most severe punishment, because for a man to deny his Creator, or refuse to worship Him, or join others in worship with Him, is the most serious of human sins, the most abhorrent of beliefs and the worst deviation.

https://islamqa.info/en/10300

Billy the Poet's picture

As long as they're making, selling and eating pork sausage in Dearborn I think you're safe. But you do have quite an imagination, sonny.

 

 

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dogismycopilot's picture

Oh Billy....

DEARBORN, Michigan – A group of anti-Islamic protesters, led by Ruben Israel of the official street preachers used a pig’s head on a pole as a “conversation starter” at Dearborn’s 17th Annual International Arab Festival on June 15th.  Some local Christians and Muslims were offended by the pig’s head on display, while many others were incredulous and could not believe it actually happened. Photos provided by Richard Abdullah reveal more details about the incident.

http://dearbornfreepress.com/2012/07/01/protestors-disrupt-arab-festival...

American Muslims Stone Christians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

new game's picture

man created the colt, think about that...

A Nanny Moose's picture

You have not died yet, therefore you will never die.

In you, the Sophisms run strong. Still more work you have.

TheAntiGov's picture

This is for Billy the poet fruitcake. Read the Quran chapter 9, verses 4-111 and while your at it look up LaRaza Reconquista. You dumb fuck liberal, I'm sick of you, Muslims, Mexicans and political correctness! Wake up AMERICA, these assholes want to change our way of life. It will be these liberals screaming for mercy at the hands of these throat cutters if they get the majority population. Which I saw long ago when the government started importing Muslims. That the Muslims would eventually attack us with our 2nd amendment and the government will say this is why we shouldn't have firearms. What about fast and furious, same  plan! Back to the dumb fuck liberal Billy the poet, does Christianity call for your death if you don't agree with it?

TheAntiGov's picture

ENOUGH already about peaceful Islam, economic terrorists (illegals) and our PC politicians. 

astrodemigod's picture

You are a prime example of how Idiocracy is a documentary, and why Eugenics might be agood idea.

TheAntiGov's picture

I'm your huckleberry, molon labe mother fucker, hoooah.

A Nanny Moose's picture

Islam is all one, until it starts taking out its own fucking trash.

t0mmyBerg's picture

Have them all sign an oath stating they reject the idea of sharia law in the US.  If they refuse deport them.  Immediately.  Islam is a plague.  It and its vectors must be eradicated by whatever means available immediately and irrevocably.

maddiedog's picture

There are traitors in the highest ranks of the US Government.

This is a must-watch YT clip (28 minutes long but worth it) from June 16.

DHS Whistleblower Phil Haney exposes Obama administration during Press Conference

 

Nexus789's picture

They can migrate back  to muslim countries. That solves their problem. It might be cost effective to pay them to go as many of them don't and won't work.

CuttingEdge's picture

Alternatively, apply Sharia laws only to Muslims. Stoning, headlopping, chopping a hand off - if they want it give it to them. Might make a few rapugees think a bit...

JRobby's picture

Get the transport ships ready for boarding. There are plenty of countries that owe the US $$$$$. They can work off their debt dealing with them because they are never going to pay.

Kobe Beef's picture

Lots of empty container ships lying about US ports..

Muh Raf's picture

Do you actually believe this b*llsh*t poll? You total propaganda monkeys.

Al Gophilia's picture

No, its's 100%. See my video post below.

TeraByte's picture

You are quite right of an likely outcome. When the grass roots have finally got it enough, it turns to a bloody mess, where there suddenly emerge a huge number of converts to Christianity. See that there are enough lamp posts in your community for those, who endorsed the principal, one country two sets of rules.

JRobby's picture

Get the transport ships ready for boarding. There are plenty of countries that owe the US $$$$$. They can work off their debt dealing with them because they are never going to pay.

otschelnik's picture

@MBP

The issue you raise concerning sharia / caliphate is one which we in USA have inadequate discourse about.  Certainly most predominantly islamic countries are not based on sharia although there are a few (Iran, Pakistan, Saudi, etc.).  In the case of Turkey, it seems to be reverting from republic to caliphate under the megalomaniac former imam president, Erdogan. 

The educated mulitlingual muslims relatively well-off, living in cities are not in favor of sharia / caliphate, but these are not the people emmigrating to western europe, and USA, its the poor country dwellers with their illiterate wives. And these people want a caliphate / sharia. 

The issue is the degree that they are a threat to a republic, besides shooting up the odd gay club and social service office?  Clearly they've succeeded to turn back time in Turkey, what about here, in the USA?

 

BobEore's picture

Exactemente Tio!

Desperate to 'get back in the game' after Muhammad Ali knocked the sio-con Muzzie-hate madness to the mat in one last magnificent battle -

gap-mouthed Gatestone Golums are flooding this place with misdirection so as to keep Merikans fooled as to whom be the real enemy. This particular turd in the punchbowl merely recycles the swill of sewage http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-30/islamization-america-2015-part-2

which stunk to high hell the first time round. "PollsRus" will give you any result you're willing to pay for. Forty % of Poles polled pulled pieces of chewing gum offa their shoes and stuck it in their ears! You don't say - are we any further ahead for learning dat Guilio&Co?

No. What we are further ahead with is learning the agenda which the Tel Aviv operatives working this site and all others have pushed to the max in preparation for the final take down of a post 9-11 Merika already unsteady on it's feet - and ready to go down without much more of a fight. Orlando - the prequel to More Malice in Dallas? Or will it be CrisisActors Collapse in Cleveland> Stay tuned - we almost ready for the MAIN EVENT!

 

We need more real Muzzies like Ali, and less mossad patsies like .....[list to large to mention starts here...Omar, ...]Man had no time for jive operators like these Gatestone clowns and their goyish sidekicks! Black wit blacks, whitey wit whitey, Dov Zakheims wit the fishes!

Ali Bomaye!

BobEore's picture

So far, 75% of respondents have identified themselves as hasbara helpers, intent upon helping agents of a foreign power usurp what little remains of American sovereign independence.

Or else, it's jus Dov Zakheim hisself, with a couple o dancing Israelis!

BOMBAYE!