Indonesian Navy Fires Warning Shots At Chinese Fishing Boats In The South China Sea

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There was another incident in the South China Sea this weekend, and shockingly it did not involve the US.

The Indonesian navy said that it had fired warning shots on Friday at Chinese fishing boats operating in the Natuna Sea, an area that Indonesia claims as an exclusive economic zone. The incident is the third confrontation of its kind this year the FT reports. China's foreign ministry said that one boat had been damaged and one sailor shot (a claim that Indonesia has denied) during the altercation, which China believes to have occurred in "traditional Chinese fishing grounds."

Indonesia's fisheries minister Susi Pudjiastuti reportedly said on Twitter that the shots were fired "according to procedure" as the navy defended Indonesia's sovereignty.

Aaron Connelly, a Southeast Asian researcher at the Lowy Institute added some insight as to why the Chinese fishing vessels were down near the Natuna Sea "Chinese fishing fleets, whether directed by the state or not, are going further and further south because they have overfished the waters near Hainan. It may also be strategically driven because Indonesia has stepped up fisheries enforcement in the Natuna Sea and China may want to send a message that it won't be pushed around." Again we note that it is critical to understand that China is quite focused on mitigating any further social unrest, and as pork prices have increased, another source of protein would be from the fishing industry. If the waters near Hainan are indeed overfished, then it makes complete sense that the vessels would extend further south.

As a quick reminder, here is a map showing the overlapping claims that many countries believe they have in the South China Sea:

Here is a different version that shows China's claim being noticeably close to the Natuna Sea where this incident took place:

The incident further drives tensions in the region, and occurs just as China has threatened to leave the UN Sea Convention if a court ruling from The Hague sides with the Philippines in a South China Sea territorial dispute.

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"...and shockingly it did not involve the US."

Wait for it...

Jack Oliver's picture

US probably fucked aroung with their 'Fish Finder' software - lulled them into it !

Kaeako's picture

The waters of China's vassals are China's waters. Round eye go home.

philipat's picture

Indonesia is by no means a Chinese vassal, or anyone's vassal actually. China was blamed for the attempeted "communist coup" in Indonesia in 1965 ("The year of living dangeously") which resulted in the downfall of Soekarno and the rise of Soeharto. It also resulted in the deaths of literally millions of people suspected of being communist sympathisers, including ethnic Chinese, although in reality the mayhem was used as an excuse to settle any old political scores. The Indonesian people were conditioned over the years to believe that China was behind this coup and to hate the Chinese, including (especially) the economically succesful indigenous ethnic Chinese minority. More recent documentary evidence has of course proved that, as usual, it was the US who aided and abetted the coup as part of its "Domino theory" during the first cold war as Soekarno drew closer to Moscow and the US became more involved in SE Asia.

To its great credit, Indonesia maintains a vigorously independent  foreign policy and has not allowed US multinational Corporations to dominate its economy using various investment regulations which reserve many areas of the economy (Including retail) for domestic investors.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) philipat Jun 21, 2016 10:50 PM

"More recent documentary evidence has of course proved that, as usual, it was the US who aided and abetted the coup as part of its "Domino theory" during the first cold war"

Yup. Just blame the CIA for everything. Communism was a good thing. Just look at Societ Union/Eastern Europe as an example.

Its funny how people think that the us is responsible for all deaths related to communism, when the Muslims (as well as nationalists) there weren't too happy about it, asking for assistance to get rid of them.

philipat's picture

Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion but not their own facts. My post is entirely a factually correct historical record of what happened in Indonesia in 1965 and beyond. If you dispute any of these facts, kindly identify which ones and I will post published evidence to support them.

BTW, I have lived and worked Asia, most SE Asia since 1976, a large portion of it in Indonesia, where I still live. So I do actually have a good understanding of what goes on in Asia and, in particlular, Indonesia and its economic and political history/development.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) philipat Jun 22, 2016 12:07 AM

So because you live there your "facts" are indisputable based on your geographic location?

There is this thing called "the internet", maybe you have heard of it?

So in your inifinte wisdom, you deny that:

A) Muslims didn't like the commies
B) Indonesian nationalists didn't want the commies
C) No one wanted the commies
D) There were no chinese commies in Indonesia

Can you show evidence that non of the above isn't true?

Or are you going to use the false authority logical fallacy to smear me with ad hominem to prop up your over inflated ego?

philipat's picture

Sorry but you didn't answer my question. Which parts of my OP were not factually correct? If you can read, I said that the attempted communist coup was blamed on China and the population was propogandised to hate China and the Chinese. I did not suggest that Chinese communists, either in Indonesia or elsewhere, were responsible in any way. Rather, as the historical record now clearly shows, it was the CIA behind the coup. That seems to be what is upsetting you perhaps?

Your (lack of) logic is very difficult to follow.

trulz4lulz's picture

I blame the cia for your horrible posts. Seriously; im kinda pissed Murikistanian money pays for such low brow diatribe. Dont you guys have real jobs? Go make a british super rock band group, yall havent dont that in awhile.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) trulz4lulz Jun 21, 2016 11:59 PM

Good....Let the hate flow through you.

trulz4lulz's picture

Hate? Youre borderline amusing at best. Why would i even consider hatred as an emotional reaponse to you? You seriously think you are impacting me so much as to make me feel hatred? Mother fucker, i barely want to even respond.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) trulz4lulz Jun 22, 2016 12:39 AM

It was a line from star wars. Get a grip brah.

NoDecaf's picture

You still rocking your "kill a commie for mommy" T-shirt? You know that cold war 1.0 memorabilia becomes more valuable as the years go by... Don't wear it out.

farmerunder's picture

Any idea on the relationship between the Japanese and Indonesians? any bad blood between them

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AdolphLustig (not verified) farmerunder Jun 21, 2016 10:58 PM

The Japs killed 4 million of them during/before world war two.

philipat's picture

Japan occupied Indonesia towards the end of WWII and they exhibited their usual cruelty to the local people. So, yes there is bad blood towards the Japanese too, although perhaps not to the same extent as in China and Korea,

Ward no. 6's picture


didn't know this

oncemore's picture

Indonesia is by no means a Chinese, it is not. It is US vassal.

Zwelgje's picture

Bingo, the US took it over from the Dutch. Indonesia never truly became independent. 

short screwed's picture

There are still some fish in the South China Sea?

philipat's picture

Yes because the radioctivity from Fukushima which, by virtue of the currents in the Northern Pacific was gifted Eastwards to the US not South West to the South China sea.

Dragon HAwk's picture

People start getting hungry, Stranger things will Happen.

strangewalk's picture

Indonesians HATE Chinese, in the late 1960s they literally murdered in cold blood possibly up to one million ethnic Chinese that had lived in Indonesia for generations--a genocide. The hatred has never dissipated so that the government has to aggressively stand up to Chinese bullying and encroachments or it will be swept from power. 

philipat's picture

See above for a fuller explanation

AdolphLustig's picture
AdolphLustig (not verified) strangewalk Jun 21, 2016 10:39 PM

Aren't there like 2 billion han chinese all over the planet?

Is killing 1 million really a "genocide"?

AchtungAffen's picture

It happens almost everyday. A couple months ago a Chinese fishing boat was SUNK in the Argentinean coast for illegal squid fishing.

Fuku Ben's picture

If all parties don't like the court in the Hague or the UN hopefully they can find an arbiter they'll all agree to resolve their issues and all adhere to that judgement. There's enough financial problems globally as it is. Nobody needs old or new maritime disputes or claims to start escalating and causing violent conflict or be used as a false flag to start something serious.

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

China's claim is absurd but the US has pretty much no business worrying about it.

If China wants to risk war with Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Taiwan, Philippines, Australia and/or Japan - what sort of asshole figures the US should stick its dick out there, too?

Gotta wonder just how much oil/gas is really there.

But their weakness isnt fossil fuels. Its food.

And breathable air.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) Snípéir_Ag_Obair Jun 21, 2016 10:56 PM

"but the US has pretty much no business worrying about it."

Hey dummy. Ever heard of the Philippeans?

Jack Oliver's picture

China BUILT the FUCKING islands and they have been part of Chinese 'teritorial' waters for thousands of years - They have only been a FUCKING issue since China decided to prepare themselves against Zionist funded US AGRESSION !

But hey - US doesn't want anyone PROTECTING themselves ! It's not in the 'SPIRIT' of WAR ! 

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AdolphLustig (not verified) Jack Oliver Jun 21, 2016 11:15 PM

China hasn't been a country for thousands of years.

It has changed its boundries and ruling ethnic groups more times than a hooker douches her minge.

sam i am's picture

"the US should stick its dick out there, too?"

Does it have anything to stick?

Does NATO even exist?

philipat's picture

It is, as usual, all about oil. Specifically its free movement through the choke point in the Straits of Malacca, round Singapore and up into the South China sea. That said, in fairness to China, it has never made any attempt, or even any suggestion of any intent, to interfere with commercial shipping through the South China sea, possibly because much of the oil is bound for China!!

Pliskin's picture

As an avid SCUBA diver, I look forward to the day the U.S Carriers are sunk to the bottom of the South China Sea, with every boy, girl and transgender on board.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) Pliskin Jun 21, 2016 11:18 PM

So as an "avid scuba diver", you enjoy diving in highly toxic and radioactive water too deep for you to use SCUBA?

philipat's picture

You're not paying attention. The radioactivity from Fukushima, by virtue of the currents in the North Pacific drifted East to the US West coast, NOT South WEst towards the South China sea, Again, these are the FACTS.

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AdolphLustig (not verified) philipat Jun 21, 2016 11:55 PM

Pliskin was talking about the us navy.

And most of the fukushima fallout went to the pacific, moving east along currents, not down into the china sea.

philipat's picture

Which I have already posted TWICE (See above). perhaps you can't read?

AdolphLustig's picture
AdolphLustig (not verified) philipat Jun 22, 2016 12:18 AM

I wasn't talking to you.

Again, I was talking to pliskin.

Pliskin's picture

I've been diving off Nha Trang twice, and very nice it was too, last time I looked that was the South China Sea.

I'm guessing you're just upset at my dead American sailors comment, yeh, nobody likes the thought of hundreds of dead, young, 'exceptional' boys and girls floating around in some Sea thousands of miles from the U.S, but hey, what can you do?


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AdolphLustig (not verified) Pliskin Jun 22, 2016 2:18 AM

Actually, I could give a fuck about the navy.

I just know how toxic/radioactive ships are.

They strip them down before they tug them out and sink them to make artificial reefs out of them.

I care more about the planet and the life on it than anything.

UncleChopChop's picture

of course it involved the U.S. the entire indonesian 'government' is an installed and supported experiment in nationbuilding by the US and its EU vassals. (never mind whether other's control US to begin with). 

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AdolphLustig (not verified) UncleChopChop Jun 21, 2016 11:16 PM

Most of the world has been created by European infuence.

Without European influence, most of the world would live in grass huts.

trulz4lulz's picture

Bet youre a blast at parties. Grass huts or not, if its one thing europeans do better than anyone else its that they love to shit where they eat. Fuckers can poison a waterway and totally rape an eco system better than anyone on earth. You seem sprie enough to go get them chinese! So i say go on getem!

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AdolphLustig (not verified) trulz4lulz Jun 21, 2016 11:53 PM

You should throw out all of your modern conviences today and go live in a grass hut then, tough guy.

And please don't lecture us about "european" pollution.

China is one of the worst when it comes to having zero regulatory rules when it comes to the Environment.
In fact, they don't have any Enviornmental laws.

You should move there and breath in the toxic pollution, and live in a grass hut.

You might enjoy it.

trulz4lulz's picture

Why would i go through all that when i could have a much worse experience in Detroit? Shorter drive too?

AdolphLustig's picture
AdolphLustig (not verified) trulz4lulz Jun 22, 2016 12:17 AM

China burns almost as much coal as the rest of the planet.

They have the highest levels of sulfer dioxide of any nation as well.

Detroit is a piker when it comes to air pollution compared to china.

Nice try though.

trulz4lulz's picture

Ohh got it! So thats what its like to have a roaring manufacturing sector. Been awhile. Mostly im thinking in terms of decaying buildings, poisonous drinking water, rampant and vicious crimes, corrupt government, failing infrastructure, decaying roads and interstate byways. Yeah the air used to be bad there too i guess. Sonr drink the river water. Or tap water.  Okay okay. You convinced me gman! I totally back the usa usa usa fucking up some han xhinese!! They use coal for industry!! Where could they have learned that?!?!

AdolphLustig's picture
AdolphLustig (not verified) trulz4lulz Jun 22, 2016 12:38 AM

Are you talking about China or Detroit?

I am confused.

Jack Oliver's picture

A lot of 'Islanders' - especially in the South Pacific live in grass huts - Fish and 'Gather' and are perfectly FUCKING happy !!!