Calls For Texas Independence Surge After Brexit Vote

Tyler Durden's picture

As expected, it didn't take long after the final Brexit results for demands for referenda to be put forth by the Netherlands, France, Italy and Scotland. While it's easy for Americans to fall into the "it can never happen here" mentality, The Mises Institute put forth a thought experiment that dispelled the notion that even if some states in the US wanted to become independent they would be too small to go it alone.

As a reminder, here is how some of the US states look when comparing state GDP to the GDP of other countries around the world. It's evident from this chart that the idea that some states would be too small to exist on their own isn't valid.

Here is another way to look at things, labeling each state to the foreign country whose GDP it matches.

The article points out that some states would be among the largest economies in the world if they were to leave the US.

Moreover, few Americans appreciate how enormous some American states are, especially the largest four states: California, Texas, New York, and Florida.

 

In terms of both population and GDP, California is about equal to Canada — and with much better weather. Texas is equal in economy and population size to Australia. Pennsylvania's economy is similar in size to Switzerland.

 

While secession of American states is often dismissed as absurd, there are few reasons to believe that a state like Texas - to name just one example - could not immediately transition from state to nation-state. With a large economy, port cities, oil, and easy access to European, Latin American, and even Asian economies by sea, economics arguments against such a separation fall flat. And of course, the success of smaller states like Norway, Denmark, and Switzerland illustrate that bigness is truly unnecessary. Naturally, many other states even beyond the biggest states — such as Pennsylvania, New Jersey, North Carolina and others — could do the same. These states would all be among the largest economies on earth were they to leave the US.

With that in mind, we note fact that calls for Texas to become independent have surged in the wake of the Brexit vote.

As Vocativ reports, the site analyzed the use of "Texit" since the beginning of 2016, and found that the phrase exploded when the Brexit results were announced, as more than 5,800 people on Twitter used the phrase, a five-fold increase from the day before. 1,745 people tweeted about Texit between 7am - 8am London time, the hour when the final results were announced.

According to Vocativ, the largest group advocating for secession is the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM), which has been promoting its own version of Brexit called "Texit" over the past several weeks.

"The vast majority of the laws, rules and regulations that affect the people of Texas are created by the political class or unelected bureaucrats in Washington," said Daniel Miller, president of TNM.

Here is a screen shot from the group's Facebook page

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The point is that as the Mises Institute showed, states such as Texas could in fact survive if ever a secession were to take place. If the UK referendum has taught us anything, it should be that the certainty of "it can never happen here" should now and going forward be taken with a Texas-sized grain of salt.

Here are some other "Texit" tweets from the past few days

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stant's picture

Southxit!!

 

cdevidal's picture

After the Texit, Mexit! Make the illegal Mexicans leave... THEN I'd want to move to Texas.

How about FLexit! Let's do this.

knukles's picture

Y'all from Teaxs, if you go this route, don't forget to engage Meghan Kelly for the Texmain camp spokesperson.

manical laughter
Ya' can fuck up anything getting somebody the wrong spokespersons

Lost My Shorts's picture

How do you say "all hat and no cattle" in Texanese?

Stop joking -- it will never happen.  There's pulled pork and there's federal pork, and who can say which is more delicioius?

Future Jim's picture
 

 


Why Globalists Want Texas to Secede

Suppose the President were a globalist and thus wanted global government, a global monopoly on the power to print money out of thin air, control over who gets what healthcare, control over what is taught in schools, recording of all phone calls and emails, no small farms, no self sufficiency, maximum dependence on government, mandatory treatments, and no guns in the hands of the people. There would be global peace because everyone would be obedient and know their place. Such a future is what globalists refer to as The New World Order.

If the President were such a globalist, then he would naturally be apoplectic at the thought of secession by a big and powerful anti-globalist state like Texas … right? … but nothing could be further from the truth.

Just as the globalists in Seattle outvote the individualists in the rest of Washington state; in the absence of Texas, the globalist pockets throughout the US would outvote the individualists in the rest of the US.

Whereas armed Americans now stand alone against the New World Order; without Texas, the rest of America would soon be disarmed; and then it would just be armed Texans who stood alone against the New World Order.

Then once the rest of the world were firmly under the New World Order, the entire world could simply invade Texas under the pretense of an invitation from some putatively “oppressed” minority, which would both motivate the world while demoralizing Texans – just as prescribed by Machiavelli.

 

bamawatson's picture

my concern is the effect on College Football Playoffs

MANvsMACHINE's picture

It would be much easier if DC exited the US.

fbazzrea's picture

as they say in Texas, "that's a mighty lotta bullshit you're trackin' in... pull your boots off at the door."

as much as i'd like to think Texas is the global linchpin for individualists' future, just can't hardly step up that high.

all your figurin' sort of puts me in the mind of that ol' Spencer Davis Group song, "I was lookin' back to see if you were lookin' back at me to see if I was lookin' back to see if you were lookin' back at me." or sumpin' to that effect.

New World Chaos's picture

Yes, good point.  Concentrate their enemies and destroy them.  Enslave the sheep whose sheep-dogs went to Texas.  Just one problem:  Why haven't they pushed for something like this already?  I think they are afraid of it snowballing. 

It probably won't snowball until after the dollar collapse + FSA riots + Feds rob the last of the middle class and crack down on the liberty movement.  I think all this stuff must come to pass before Texas musters the will to secede.  I am not too worried about them prematurely ejaculating the 2nd American Revolution.

Point in your favor: Texas has a zio-stooge named Alex Jones.  His job is either to prematurely ejaculate the 2nd American revolution, or cause a few wingnuts to go off, thus giving the excuse for the crackdown.

Future Jim's picture

I think you may be right. Although I know several people who know Alex Jones, who assure me he is for real, and who I have no reason to suspect as zio-stooges; after listenng to Alex Jones on Youtube for several years, I unsubscribed in January. I think he is trying to provoke people to shoot at government. Sometimes it is pretty blatant. He also seems to frequently be trying to set us up to destroy our credibility.

 

Of course, that is what the NWO wants in order to justify more of a police state:

http://www.endofinnocence.com/2013/04/obamas-dhs-violates-constitution-house.html?utm_source=BP_recent

http://www.endofinnocence.com/2013/03/obamas-dhs-targets-white-children.html

 

James Corbet is the only one I find to be 100% credible at this point.

zeronetwork's picture

Possibility of successful  Texit is higher if dollar collapses.

Beltain's picture

Of course you are disregarding the fact that if Texas left several other States would more than likely follow along same as we see developing in the EU. Not to mention as has happened with GB many other nations are not ready to sign on to the globalist utopia either.  The Globalist would have their hands full and ultimately would fail long before they could attack Texas and the other more independent minded areas.

 

Rusty Shorts's picture

WAIT!!!! what the HELL!!!  TENNESSEE is compared ISISRAEL??? Noooo!!

 

TENNEXIT NOW!!

New World Chaos's picture

This is one reason why the Feds deliberately let the Mexicans in and paid them to settle.  They will dilute any liberty vote, increase corruption, breed out Whitey, force the patriots to fight a rear-guard action against the gangs and FSA, increase support for a North American Union.  Classic NWO divide and conquer.

ndotken's picture

The biggest problem Texas would have after seceding is trying to accomodate the millions upon millions of Americans that would want to move there.

New World Chaos's picture

I'm sure there are a few politicians in California who would trade their anarcho-capitalist computer geeks for Mexican gang members.  1:1 trade.  Anything less would be racist.

AlaricBalth's picture

Yes! FLEXIT!!!
Because most of us are already bilingual!!
FLEXIT!!!
Because we've done it before!!!
FLEXIT!!!
Because alligators with lasers would make tough front line soldiers!!
FLEXIT!!!
Because we're weird enough to do it!!!

MasterControl's picture

Texas must be looking to gain independence so it can protect the 3,000 + mosques it has allowed to call Texas home.

YourAverageJoe's picture

Never heard of this movement till I read it here on ZH.

If we did leave the US, would we get the money paid into SS and Medicare be refunded to me or would I be fucked out of it?

 

cdevidal's picture

You honestly think the govt is going to let Texas leave? They're addicted to the oil teat. The IRS is armed, you know.

Sudden Debt's picture

They'd never let Texas leave. They'd rather have martial law in the state then let them leave.

It would cut the country in 2 and destroy America's power.

They'd fight and lose like the people of Ireland and become the slaves of the rest of America.

 

Lost My Shorts's picture

Who won't let Texas leave are:  the neocons, the arms industry, and the Israel lobby.  That's an unbeatable team.  Y'all ain't goin' nowhere.

If the USA starts to break up, who is going to police the world?  Who is going to fight Israel's wars?  Iran war's comin' up -- y'all dont wanna miss it, do ya?

Normalcy Bias's picture

If the USA starts to break up, the war is going to be fought here.

This country is the richest prize in the world, and it's always about the money.

cdevidal's picture

Yes indeedie. I expect a bloodbath if Texas ever tries.

AustrianJim's picture

No, and that's why those programs are so evil - you're in effect bought off from any serious consideration of leaving the collective.

New World Chaos's picture

It will be a moot point once the dollar collapses.  Then you could see a snowballing secession.  If the dollar is dead and most states have seceded from NY and DC, they won't stand a chance.  They will be sacked like Rome.

Lost My Shorts's picture

Actually, to dodge your share of the federal debt, it's worth it to give up SS and medicare "trust funds" [cackle snort].

The real fight in a totally-won't-ever-happen Texit would be over what share of federal liabilities the new nation of Texas would have to assume.  The Chinese want to know if they are getting their money back.

New World Chaos's picture

Two words:  Odious debt.

Wonder how that Texas gold repository is coming along?

Spanky's picture

Consider it just another cost of freedom. It isn't free you know...

tsuki's picture

There would be a negotiation.  When Quebec was threatening exit, Toronto was talking an exit stradegy that included such.

techpriest's picture

If you are under 40 you will probably be fucked out of some or all of your SS anyway. The SS disability fund going to go bankrupt any day now, as its bankruptcy is due this year.

Once those checks stop coming, people are going to lose it.

Omen IV's picture

there are solutions to all of that - divide the assets and leave behind the debt to DC

 

The debt is $19 Trillion and the money spent since 1950 on military and war has been $20 Trillion - Washington DC made the decision to declare war for no gain but their own  - let them pick up the tab - no one I know ever wnated to Murder anyone !

 

my friends  were murdered in Vietnam by Politicians in DC

 

Bolt Debt Free!

WillyGroper's picture

that $19T debt was aquired by the corporation united states of amorika inc.

we're not liable for it anyway although they try to make it appear so...just like they represent us.

hahahahah

drendebe10's picture

Take away the salaries & pensions & benefits of all the elected & retired ookitical turds & same for yhe unelected gubmint bueaucrat turds, then use that $$$ to pay down the debt

Freddie's picture

Texans are kind of stupid. They worship Trayvon football like idiots.   They vote for the worst scum you can think of - Bushes, LBJ, Cornyn, Rick Perry (least of the worst here), Canadian Ted Cruz and assorted other scum.   They still vote for Bushes including George Pedro who never shows up for work like Cruz and Rubio.

All that would happen is that the scum NFL would kick the Cowboys out of the NFL thug rapist league and Texans would fold likea cheap suit.

Normalcy Bias's picture

Texans may be "kind of stupid," but at least they're not California stupid. Texans mostly don't vote for the government to take care of them, watch over them, and wipe their bottoms, which is a main reason why the economy here is better than most of the rest of the country.

Incidentally, we're currently being invaded with Californians and refugees from other highly liberal democrat run states who still have no idea what caused their states to become third world shitholes. I'm confident that they'll continue to hold their Socialist Democrat opinions as being unassailable, and will continue to vote for their own (and our) destruction.

drendebe10's picture

The progressive liberal democrap turds are completely oblivious to yhe facts and outcomes of their bullshit agenda & policies and take no responsibility for their bullshit actions. That's why shitholes like Detroit, Baltimore and Chicago are such successes of city management.

Bopper09's picture

U.N.exit. From this planet

cherry picker's picture

Ain't gonna happen folks. It will be civil war two.

They'll murder Texans if they dare show any initiative toward separation through democratic process.

It's a USA DNA thing. Anything that may make the Empire appear weak, such as a secession, deserves to be Napalmed and fried.

New World Chaos's picture

The Empire is already weak and rotten at its core.  The second civil war is already brewing under the surface.  Just waiting for the Collapse.  The big question is, what comes next:  Freedom?  Fascism?  World government?  Disjointed third-world shitholes?

Normalcy Bias's picture

I'm afraid the psychopaths running things would rather risk destroying the world completely, than to lose control of it.

3vallees's picture

FU EU DU CU BU AU

I am Jobe's picture

Most folks in Austin are too busy shoving Burritos up their azz. Ain't going to happen . TX loves their gays. 

techpriest's picture

Trump can build a wall around Austin.

YourAverageJoe's picture

Got news for ya...

The average Joe does not like queers and views Them as mental subjects, not responsible citizens.

Stan522's picture

The civil war was fought over states rights ability to decide their own fate. The South wanted slavery and the North said Hell No! Does anyone think this POTUS, or the next will treat it any different?