EU Officials To Unveil 'Ultimatum' Blueprint As Final Solution For European Super-State

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It appears The Brits may have dodged more than a bullet in their decision to leave The EU. The foreign ministers of France and Germany are reportedly due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an "ultimatum." As The Express reports, the shockingly predictable final solution to Europe's Brexit-driven existential crisis is an apparently long-held plan to morph the continent’s countries into one giant superstate. The radical proposals mean EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels. According to the Daily Express, the nine-page report has "outraged" some EU leaders.

The plans for 'a closer European Union' have been branded an attempt to create a 'European superstate', as The Daily Mail reports,

Germany's foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and his French counterpart Jean-Marc Ayrault today presented a proposal for closer EU integration based on three key areas - internal and external security, the migrant crisis, and economic cooperation.

 

But the plans have been described as an 'ultimatum' in Poland, with claims it would mean countries transfer their armies, economic systems and border controls to the EU.

 

Controversially member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.

The Express reports that the plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP Info.

The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.

 

Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.

 

In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values ??that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."

 

Responding to the plot Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski raged: "This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed.

 

“The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.

 

“Therefore, I want to talk about this, whether this really is the right recipe right now in the context of a Brexit."

 

There are deep divides at the heart of the EU at the moment over how to proceed with the project in light of the Brexit vote.

Some figures have cautioned against trying to force through further political integration, warning that to do so against the wishes of the European people will only fuel further Eurosceptic feeling.

Czech minister Lubomír Zaorálek added that the four eastern members had reservations about the proposed common security policy.

 

Meanwhile Lorenzo Condign, the former director general of Italy’s treasury, has said it is nearly impossible to see Europe opting for more integration at such a time of upheaval.

 

He said: “It seems difficult to imagine that the rest of the EU will close ranks and move in the direction of greater integration quickly. Simply, there is no political will.

 

“Indeed, the risk is exactly the opposite - namely that centrifugal forces will prevail and make integration even more difficult.”

It seems the infamous phrase "never let a crisis go to waste" has not been lost on EU officialdom.

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santafe's picture
santafe (not verified) Jun 27, 2016 11:25 PM

Or MAYBE it's because of the coming Financial CATACLYSM that will shake the US to its foundation. They want to replace the US.
http://bit.ly/1KogtGi

algol_dog's picture

What Hitler couldn't accomplish by blitzkrieg, Brussels will do by simple mandate.

AVmaster's picture

The only thing that hitler got wrong was the concept of "work smarter not harder"...

 

A pen and paper can easily accomplish what bombs and bullets can do as well...

 

^.^

philipat's picture

Juncker: "There can be no democtratic choice against European Treaties"

 

Schulz: “The British have violated the rules. It is not the EU philosophy that the crowd can decide its fate".

It's pretty obvious where this is going isn't it?

MANvsMACHINE's picture

Lampposts and rope and guillotines, oh my!

Stuck on Zero's picture

EU to member states: "You shall be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

peddling-fiction's picture

Can´t even hear a squeak from GhordEUs.

His performance today was unbecoming.

Maybe he is going through a nervous breakdown.

I am happy that I am down here in Bolivia. <chuckle>

Sadly I saw this coming and have been warning ZH.

philipat's picture

Glad that I am way over here in Bali. And have been warning also....

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) philipat Jun 28, 2016 1:14 AM

Schulz has voiced strong support for Israel, going as far as saying that "Germany exists only in order to ensure the existence of the State of Israel and the Jewish people"

source: wikipedia

Keyser's picture

None of the other EU countries will go for total integration, that is of their own free will... So, when do the tanks roll into Poland and I don't mean Russian tanks either? Oh wait, NATO has already deployed to Poland to vanish the Russian threat... How convenient...

Perimetr's picture

Was ist los?

Mein Fuhrer . . . I can walk!

Haus-Targaryen's picture

They blew their wad too early.  

The only way the various peoples of Europe would have even remotely thought about this was if their entire existance was removed through some existential crisis.  The BREXIT is no such crisis for the average citizen of the EU's various member states.  

However, the fuckers in Brussels see the BREXIT as an existential crisis.  They see the further unraveling of their precious union and absent further "integration" it would cease to exist.  

The EU has needs to be put down now.  Luckily for us, the morons in Brussels have absolutely zero patience and have done themselves in.  

Death to the EU. 

Watson's picture

I entirely agree with you.

If the peoples of the EU had been _collectively_ threatened by a cause _external_ to the EU (eg Russia deciding to turn the gas off to the whole of Western Europe), then maybe this proposal might gain support.

But nobody in the EU has been threatened, and the cause of the trouble is internal (one EU member wants to leave, a decision reached by referendum, so about as democratic as you can get).

What does surprise me (from the report) is that the idea is from Foreign Ministers, rather than the Brussels bureaucracy.
To me, Brexit does not put at risk any Foreign Minister's job.
But, possibly, it puts the entire Brussels 'champagne jobs for life' industry at risk.

So why does the report come from Foreign Ministers rather than, say, the EU Commission?
Why should Foreign Ministers feel threatened?

Watson

Keyser's picture

Oh, the EU has been threatened, but by the influx of muslims from the ME... Although it is the numpties in Brussels and Ankara that have orchestrated this crisis... Solution, citizen revolt + guillotine = justice for the EU...  

lucitanian's picture

"So why does the report come from Foreign Ministers rather than, say, the EU Commission?
Why should Foreign Ministers feel threatened?"

This is a very good question that perhaps goes to the root of the problem. The EU is not one thing or the other, and therefore has no foreign policy although it has a High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy (HR) being the chief coordinator and representative of the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) within the European Union... whatever that means. So under this pretence of having a common policy which it does not, it defers to Washington. The relation between defence, security and a foreign policy is more than obvious, and with NATO dominated again by Washington, it is obvious that the EU as such has no other "common" defence strategy which can be at odds with whatever Washington dictates. When it comes to the Financial and Economic interests, it is not difficult to see that it is the same oligarchs running the same neo-liberal global oligopoly.

In short the reality of the EU is, and probability always has been, to diminish the powers of the sovereign states and augment the power of the global empire (referred to as the NWO). Meanwhile the idea of democracy and the voice people and their representatives is deliberately kept well out of the picture and fobbed off to meaningless national elections to chose governments that have to follow Brussels dictates, or even more pointless poles for a toothless and virtually powerless EU Parliament. To become a representative in general one must tow the line given from above and endorsed by the media to the masses. So who runs the EU, well it certainly is not the people of Europe!

So why the Foreign Ministers? Well, why is John Kerry here seemingly having his say on BREXIT and the future of the EU. Is the empire regrouping as their interests seem threatened. Has John Kerry been presenting some ultimatums?

gatorengineer's picture

Really I think not.  The PIIGS will be all over it.... Guaranteed free shit (candy) for now.  Starting to roll out like a great other German fairy tale Hansel and Gretel....

eatthebanksters's picture

The intellectual establishment elites just don't get it do they?  Fucking out of touch morons.  I love it, these communist cocksuckers are sealing their own failed fate.

wildbad's picture

glad i'm over here in the black forest...its not so far to poland.

 

Thanks for the heads up Schweinmeyer.  If we're lucky, your head will be on a AfD Pike before xmas.

Haus-Targaryen's picture

Schwarzwald? Du bist ja ca., 600 Km von Polen entfernt.   Die Schweiz ist eine bessere Möglichkeit, nur meine Meinung nach. 

philipat's picture

USA...USA...USA...???

But please remember, those  "made in USA, and about the ONLY thing made in USA these days", weapons were intended ONLY for "Moderate" Radical Islamic rebels. Such is US foreign policy these days.

trulz4lulz's picture

Well that certainly clears things up a bit.

Keyser's picture

The beatings will continue until morale improves... Now back to the salt mine and you WILL like it... 

NidStyles's picture

This constant comparing of National Socialism as Communism is pretty fucking glaring. It's a great example that the Tylers are pushing an agenda.

Croesus's picture

Exactly. Same thing with the "Hitlery" bullshit. 

 

valjoux7750's picture

Wow this is shocking, and I think it only hastens the demise of the EU. I don't think any of the working class want to loose their identity for those commie fags in Brussels!!  

"Everybody has a plan till they get punched in the face"  cue ww3

gatorengineer's picture

Free shit for now, helicopter money, and the comfort of the EU or starvation, and chaos..... take your pick.

ndotken's picture

Desperate men do desperate things.

roddy6667's picture

Watching the festivities from China. Glad to not be in US or Europe now.

Keyser's picture

Same here, I am not far from you in China and happy to be 8000+ miles away from the USSA... The excrement is about to hit the aircon unit... 

Ghordius's picture

I'll do you the courtesy of answering. but it's the last time I'll do it on a comment that distorts my nick. after all, I chose my nick so that I could search for it more easily

what is there to speak about? you are having fun. I approve of that

about that Schultz comment, I'll quote here "Muh Raf" (here link to comment): "I rarely agree with Ghordo, but in all fairness to him the statement attribution is almost definitely false. Compare Schulz's tweet of 23 Jun. https://twitter.com/MartinSchulz?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%... That said, the EU has become a stinking cesspool of mediocracy and political granstanding, with almost zero men of substance."

the question here is... can you fight anything with mythical... lies? every lie about politicians... distracts about what is really happening

the plans about a european superstate are old, and have been always there since beginning

China is a superstate, two dozen provinces. Russia is a federation, i.e. a superstate, too, with two dozen republics. India is a superstate, 29 states and a few territories. Brazil is a superstate, and of course the United States of America is a superstate, with 50-odd republics and a few territories

Now my question: IS the EU a superstate?

not according to the ZH headline here. it talks about plans. it talks about a "blueprint"

so what exactly is to speak about, here? about an economic alliance.... with an exit door? or is it about mythology?

I don't read ZH commenters asking for the dissolution of the Chinese, Russian, Indian, Brazilian or US superstates. why not? well, do they have... exit doors?

I have fought politically against common EU debt, against common taxes, against a common army, against the trappings of a common superstate

I don't want things like the FBI, the CIA, the IRS and so on applied to the EU. I like the separation of cooperations. in clubs

19 countries with a common monetary policy, the eurozone (the EUR), a separate club of sovereign countries

27 countries with a common trade/regulatory setup, the EU, a separate club of sovereign countries

NATO. it's a military alliance that is separate from the other clubs. Norway and Turkey participate, btw

the Schengen Area, an agreement on how to tackle borders, at least internally among members. Switzerland participates, btw

those are the realities, those are the facts. including England that wants to leave one of them, and Scotland that does not

yes, I like those clubs, the principles behind them and... their exit doors

you seem to prefer a "fun fantasy" peppered with mythology. well, have fun. you don't need me for playing "fairy castles in the sky" games

philipat's picture

"That said, the EU has become a stinking cesspool of mediocracy and political granstanding, with almost zero men of substance."

Which you quoted from a fellow EuroPrat, so I wonder what part of that do you not understand GhordEUs? It's OVER. Thank goodness. And your anglophobic wishes have been granted, so what's to care about other than it will result in the complete destruction of the EU, not because of Brexit but because of the arrogance of the EU bureaucracy of which you are a part.

Again, I rest my case..

Ghordius's picture

well, then provide some evidence, some proof that the quote is genuine

my "anglophobic" wishes? yes, I do wish for clubs with an exit door. ergo, I applaud when those exit doors are used

I hardly can wish for freedom of doing something... or not, and then, at the same time, be against someone using that freedom

your "EU bureaucracy of which you are a part" is just another piece of mythology

what is your case, exactly? you live in frigging Bali, for criminy. if you are Anglophile, good for you. why don't you rejoice about the BreXit referendum, then?

the real question for me is what exactly you want. if it was about the UK breaking apart from the EU, well, there it is, BreXit is happening

but for some reason you want the rest of the EU to part ways. well, what is "in it", for you? you don't even live here. is it... your affair? if yes, how?

have fun with your mythology

Haus-Targaryen's picture

The EU is run by blow-hards who are going to try to fit 27 pegs into 27 differently shaped holes.  The harder they whack each peg in order to get it to fit the more deformed both the peg and the hole become, making the fit ever more impossible.  

A superstate requires the domestic political will to create it -- something the EU lacks.  While you might be filled with "European patriotism" hundreds of millions of "Europeans" are not -- a number, mind you, which gets larger every day.  

 

There will eventually be a tipping point, and then, like the flooding of the Black Sea ... the deluge.  

Ghordius's picture

where is the evidence that I am "filled with "European patriotism""?

the superstate is not here, remember? meanwhile, I'm "filled with the need" for exit doors

meanwhile, ZH is full of evidence that there is a lot of mythology going on. is it entertaining? yes. is it... truth? well, does anybody care for truth, here?

ANestIOS's picture

until someone says otherwise my assumption is that the EU institutions are implementing the 5 presidents report plan - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5240_en.htm -

now, in my view, the brits shot themselves on the foot, 'course had every right to, and this makes the above mentioned plan somewhat easier to implement. This together with the opportunity of wealth transfer (manufacturing, financial services) from the (ex)UK to mainland europe explains why, at least some, euro forces set up the brits for the fall (see announcement re Turkey joining EU by commission at the point of the campaign when Remain seemed to be gaining momentum)

but, where there is a force in one direction there is always another opposing - so more twists and turns and unintented consequences - e.g. the (muslim) mayor of London enhancing London's "special status" and championing the City (or under the guise of) in safeguarding fin services, resulting in a semi-autonomous London 

 

peddling-fiction's picture

Search for comments using "Ghord"

Rapallo and Babel want closure.

Boondocker's picture

Except Poland....I think we are about to see 1939 again....history repeats?

peddling-fiction's picture

Like a skipping record.

It is so easy for the elite to repeat the same script because few people know the real history that went down.

Rusty Shorts's picture

Really, remember 1941 when we used to ship tankers full of vodka to Russia, and wine to France

css1971's picture

No. How about Poland asking for military help from Russia...

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Yes, Resistance is Feudal. As are the Rulers.

Wile-E-Coyote's picture

I guess they are anticipating the economic situation will get so bad member states will sign up to anything to save themselves. The arrogance of the EU is breathtaking.

philipat's picture

And, IMHO, this will accelerate the demise of the EU. The peoples of Europe never voted for or wanted a "United States of Europe" and will reject it. Assuming, of course, that they will be given the opportunity to vote against it (See earlier post above)!!

MANvsMACHINE's picture

It's apparent they feel each member will most likely vote to exit the EU and this is their Hail Mary. Intercepted in the end zone!

philipat's picture

Unfortunately, no, IMHO the EuroPrats just don't get it. Therefore, they will never reform, therefore it's over. They aren't deliberately trying to sabotage it IMHO, they just have a different vision and will never surrender it to the will of the people.