Poll Finds That Scotland Is Against Second Independence Referendum

Tyler Durden's picture

As readers know, while the UK as a whole voted to leave the European Union, Scotland and Northern Ireland overall voted Remain.

As we have discussed, Scotland presents two potential hurdles in the foreseeable future that we have discussed extensively. To recap, the first is how a 28 page government command paper on how to withdraw from the European Union will be interpreted, with the key issue being whether or not the Scottish Parliament's consent is required for the UK to invoke Article 50 and begin its formal withdrawal from the EU.

While Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has suggested that Parliament could try to block the UK's exit from the EU, Scottish Secretary and Conservative MP David Mundell has a different take on the matter, saying "We have to respect the result on Thursday, even if we don't like it - it was a UK wide vote - it was a vote by people across the UK," adding that "I personally don't believe the Scottish Parliament is in a position to block Brexit."

A second hurdle is the fact that immediately following the Brexit result, Sturgeon also said that a second Scottish independence vote is 'highly likely', adding that it was "democratically unacceptable" that Scotland faced the prospect of being taken out of the EU against its will. While Sturgeon also said that the Scottish government would begin preparing legislation to enable another vote (after just voting 55%-45% to remain in the UK in 2014), it doesn't appear as though the Scottish people agree with that plan.

As Reuters reports, a Survation poll showed 44.7% of people think Scotland should not conduct a second independence referendum, compared to 41.9% in favor of a new vote.

Interestingly, a poll of 1,002 people conducted for the Daily Record and Daily Mirror on June 25 also showed that despite not favoring holding another referendum, if one were to be held immediately Scots would vote 47% in favor of breaking away from the UK compared to 41.2% in favor of remaining.

We still believe that these tactics by politicians such as Sturgeon are just grasping at straws in order to save whatever piece of status quo is deemed salvageable, despite the will of the people to first remain in the UK, and then the UK as a whole to leave the European Union.

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DetectiveStern's picture

The petition for a 2nd referendum was a 4chan prank as well. 40,000 of the signatures were from the Vatican City for a start.

nibiru's picture

On top of that 25k votes came from... North Korea. 

Harlequin001's picture

Ah, free at last!

I really am trying to give a shit about this but frankly I couldn't give a toss.

We got out, and it doesn't mmatter what follows. We will deal with it.

nibiru's picture

I like the attitude - especially when seeing Eurocrats cluelessly trying to push for more EU and bureaucracy in the EU hoping it will save everyone.


Keep in mind that in the worst case scenario the negotiations are going to take long enough to make sure there is no change after all - now the new gov must form with top brass from Brexit campaign to seal the deal. Everything else is going to be downplaying referendum.

GreatUncle's picture

disagree - look up european communities act 1972. The repealment of and under emergency powers it could be completed in days. 20th & 24th June (over the referendum period) 1st reading complete.

Once I knew that this fucker we are seeing is now solely an economic manipulation to position the UK in trading and manufacturing away from the 100% services shit. It is a mind bend and never expected.

When Carney hits the CTRL-P to pretend to support the £ is it going to crush the deficit now running at 5.7%? I got a feeling these clever fucks know exactly where we are going.

If right and all the dust settles, providing we are not grovelling in the dust and eating maggots we may have done the ultimate readjustment of the economy. The question is can the population hold together to get there? Dunno on that one with the BREMAIN twats.

They are attempting to fix everything in one hit.

In the legislation I mentioned they were busy not one word of it on asylum, foreign criminals, fishing rights, repealment of the act everything. Oh and parents of young offenders responsible for their kids actions ... expecting trouble?

Manthong's picture

Word up to my Scottish Friends..

Would you rather have a currency and economy that is independent of a control freak totalitarian regime (EU) and where you really don’t have a vote or say in government?

Or does that Soviet Stalinist model (the EU) work for you?

Do your homework and get hip to what the EU really is.

Oh, and who says the Third Reich didn’t survive after WWII?

Ghordius's picture

nibiru: "when seeing Eurocrats cluelessly trying to push for more EU and bureaucracy in the EU hoping it will save everyone"

where do you see those "eurocrats"? here? this article? I see.... Scotland

at what point do this kind of repeating memes start to sound silly? wake up, the BreXit vote has been cast

GreatUncle's picture

And that is the brave new world post fucking orwellian bollocks.

Now to just remove GCHQ and the population monitoring game.

Harlequin001's picture

Gold backing would see a very swift end to all that mullarky...

Doubleguns's picture

Stiff upper lip. freedom isn't free but its cheaper than serfdom. 

GreatUncle's picture

Freedom is to be able to change tomorrow not the same old groundhog day.

Harlequin001's picture

apparently my signature was on it 423,000 times as well!

jcaz's picture

Exactly.  As the EU becomes less relevent,  so does Sturgeon.

MFL8240's picture

The game wont end here.  This is all designed to help rig markets1

Panic Mode's picture

At the end of the day, their decision all comes down to whether they are the net beneficary, not soverierty because they are broke.

Maybe the EU will lend Sturgeon some money for running the referendum.

Calculus99's picture

I think it's about time the UK consider employing Trump to build a wall.

Remember what Trump himself says - nobody builds a wall like Trump.

weltysparrow's picture

"It's gonna be huge, everybody's gonna love it."

Niall Of The Nine Hostages's picture

Let me remind all here that the only parts of Scotland to vote Yes were those regions with large Irish Catholic populations. IRA sympathizers, in other words. For once the no true Scotsman joke is near the truth---if you were a Protestant Scot, not Muslim or an Irish Catholic, you voted No.

If Fenians and Celtics fans want to be EU subjects  badly, they can apply for Irish passports and self-deport like their cousins in Ulster. As it is, it'll be the Free State that Brexit brings to its knees, once trade with Britain is cut off, border security restored in Ulster and Ireland becomes European Muslims' preferred backdoor into Britain. 

The Free State will vote to leave the EU in two years and begin negotiations for re-unification of the United Kingdom soon after. You read it here first.

God save the Queen and fuck the IRA.

And go Rangers.

IReallyDontCare's picture

Your 100% correct, all this shit talk about a United Ireland,no chance.

Everyone with an ounce of knowledge knows full well that Irish Nationalists are the biggest welfare queens in the U.K,the scams they pull with EU subsidies are legendary.



risk.averse's picture

By "Free State" I presume you mean the Irish Republic? They will never unify with the UK. Too much blood was spilt fighting for their independence. 100 years ago exactly, in fact. Get serious.

What fascinates me is that the majority in Northern ireland -- presumably Protestants (aren't they the majority there?)  voted for Bremain. And that theres now serious talk of Northern ireland staying with the EU -- even if it means uniting with the irish Republic to its south. This would be extraordinary. A near-civil war was fought a few decades ago to battle the IRA and keep Ulster/Northern Ireland part of the UK. Ulstermen and Orange order etc march every year, commemerate the Battle of the Boyne, and swear loyalty tothe Queen. Hundreds died. How could anyone seriously contemplate Ulster joining with the hated Catholic papists to the south. Could it be the teat of Brussels is more appealing than the embrace of the Queen??

IReallyDontCare's picture

Its simply that N.I doesn't suffer from the same amounts of immigration that the South of England does, So most in N.I don't understand what the problem is.

As for uniting with the Republic, not a chance in hell.


dark fiber's picture

The Fenian and Celtic fans are not renown for their intellectual prowess.  They will have to find out the hard way that the gravy train of handouts and subsidies comes from England, not Brussels.  Just the expression on their faces, when they join the EU and the word "austerity" is uttered first thing by their PM will be priceless.

cheech_wizard's picture

I remember hearing a single phrase repeatedly from "liberals" and "Democrats" when Obama was sworn in...

Today I get to toss that back at them.

Standard Disclaimer: "You lost, get over it."


iAmerican's picture

Scotland's leader, Sturgeon, is clearly not a Godly woman.

Bananamerican's picture


but here's a goodly man. Pure Scot 'cut to the chase' truthiness


iAmerican's picture

Excellent fellow.

From this side of the pond, however, Trump at least has respectable children and is graced with a bearing bride.

Come what may God please save the People and guide Trump in the path of righteousness. He nailed JFK and 9/11 and the invasion from the south. It's a start and the People is wakening.