Defending your liberty with a rifle.

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"When governments fear the people, there is liberty.  When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

-Author unknown, but darn sure historically accurate.

 

So, many of you probably read James Traub's article this week.  It seems to have caused quite a stir.

'Elites' Called To Arms: "It's Time To Rise Up Against The Ignorant Masses

I couldn't help but read it in context with my earlier article, hedgeless_horseman's Revolutionary Call to Arms.  I hope that many of you read my article and already have started to proceed through the 20 steps in order.  

However, if you are a veteran or active duty military, I invited you to skip to items 15-18, in my article, Never forget? Most veterans don't give a shit about America's perpetual warfare.

15.  Research your two senators and one congressman at https://www.opensecrets.org/ Make a list of their 10 biggest donors, and send the list to "your representative" in an email or letter.

16.  Read War is a Racket, by Major General Smedley D. Butler.

17.  Read On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman.

18.  Watch the online video of the TED Talk, A radical experiment in empathy, by Sam Richards.

I certainly don't see myself as "leadership" per Traub's use of the term, but I do value truth, and do try to love my neighbor as I love myself.    To that end, I will continue to try to "un-delude the ignorant" (especially myself) with more of what Traub calls, "reason, expertise, and the lessons of history."  Speaking of the lessons of history, especially in relation to Items 11-12 of my Revolutionary Call to Arms, I would like to reflect for a moment on this passage from the Declaration of Independence before getting to expertise and reason.

"WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed."

Is that “elitist”?  "All men created equal..."  Hardly.  

Now, the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Is that “elitist”?  "...the right of the people [ignorant masses] to keep and bear Arms..."  It sounds rather egalitarian to me, and it is plain to understand why the elites don't care much for the Second Amendment.

Sorry to jump around so much, but what I am trying to get to, painfully so, is this.  Standing armies are controlled by the governments, which are now so obvioulsy controlled by the elite, and are very much a force of tyranny.  You see, local militias are controlled by The People, not the government, and are indeed, "necessary to the security of a free State."  I understand that many of our nation's founders agree with me on these points.  

To quote the author of #16 on my Revolutionary Call to Arms:

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

 

Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, 

Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner

Author of, War is a Racket!

So, if you have completed my Revolutionary Call to Arms, agree with Major General Butler, agree with the Second Amendment, agree with Frédéric Bastiat's ideas in his book, The Law, understand the costs and risks illustrated by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, and nonetheless you still choose to be ready, willing, and able to secure a free state for yourself and loved ones, then I give you free of charge and with much brotherly love, hedgeless_horseman's E-Z Internet Guide For The Ignorant And De-Luded ZeroHedge Reader With Too Much Money And Very Little Patience That Wants To Secure a Free State and Become A Rifleman Without Joining the US Military.

Yes! It is another hedgeless_horseman gun article! 

I have covered defending your life with a pistol.  

I have covered defending your property with a shotgun. 

Now, I cover defending your liberty with a rifle.

Before handling a firearm, it is most important for EVERYONE in the household to know, understand, and follow these four safety rules:

1) Treat all weapons as if they are loaded.

2) Do not point the weapon at anyone or anything that you do not want to shoot, kill, or destroy.

3) Do not put your finger on the trigger until you have 1) target, 2) sights on target, and 3) perception that either A) "serious bodily injury or death is imminent for myself or another person," or B) firing range is hot and training drill is live. 

4) Be aware of, and take responsibility for, all bystanders that may be behind or near the target.

I add a fifth rule, to the common four, which is to not be under the influence of any mind-altering chemical such as alcohol or dope when handling a firearm.

I absolutely refuse to be within a mile of anyone that I see not following these rules, which is why I generally avoid public gun ranges, and suggest that you shoot at a nice, lonely, high, dirt hill, way out in the boonies, or pay for a membership at a private tactical range that screens all members and guests and has at least 270 degree bays.

First, purchase an under the bed long-gun safe, like this, for security and rapid access.

Next, and I cannot stress this point enough, get instruction from an experienced professional.  Specifically, take at least two weekends of tactical rifle training.   It does not matter whether you are a 10-year veteran of law enforcement, a Marine with two tours in the sandbox, or both, you will still learn much and improve significantly with good instruction.   Taking the state's required, "course," to test for a concealed handgun license (CHL) is not even close to adequate instruction.  Usually, all the CHL course does is inform you of the laws regarding concealed carry, and assign you with some basic level of proficiency that can be used against you in court.

A good instructor will teach you the safety rules and how to safely and correctly manipulate your rifle, including operating the safety, loading, unloading, checking if loaded, reloading, managing stoppages, managing squibs, slinging, carrying, shouldering, firing, and possibly even field stripping your rifle. It is likely that you will also learn how to hit your target, and be able to do so relatively quickly.  It takes much more practice for you to get the hits when you are under stress, shooting a moving target, lying in the mud, hiding behind cover, it is dark, it is cold and raining, and you are being shot at. 

Nobody said it is easy being a Minuteman. It is hard, but also rewarding and fun.

Now, on to selecting your rifle and beginning to outfit your person as a rifleman.

From ol' muzzle loaders where powder and ball are rammed down the barrel with a rod, to today's breach-loaded, detachable-magazine, semi-automatic and select-fire rifles, there are many mechanisms for loading, firing, and reloading a rifle.  For hunting deer, elk, and antelope I love and adore my pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Featherweight bolt action rifle in .308 Win.  Even with my old and heavy Redfield Widefield 4x scope she is light enough to pack up and down mountain ranges above 10,000 feet, while packing the hind quarter of a bull elk.  Military and police snipers often use bolt actions because they are very accurate, as do Olympic shooters for the same reason.  On a good day with my bolt rifle, I can still one-hole 3 shots at 100m, clover leaf up to about 200m, and get a kill shot on a pronghorn well past 500m.  However, if there are multiple targets that might be as close to me as 1 meter, and which are shooting back at me (unlike a pronghorn), then I definitely want a detachable-magazine and semi-automatic rifle with which I can fire a large amount of lead downrange very quickly.  If, per chance, you live in a truly free nation where your right to bear arms has not been infringed, then, by all means, consider a select-fire version with both semi-automatic and full-automatic (or 3-shot burst) capability.  Everyone should know and abide by their local gun laws, no matter how Draconian, illogical, and unconstitutional they may be.  These laws are for your protection/sarc.  I will leave the pump action for shotguns, and the lever action in my saddle scabbard and for SASS (Life Member).

Next, lets talk about caliber, which is the size of the ammunition.  Plagerizing Wikipedia, a battle rifle is a military service rifle that fires a full-power rifle cartridge such as 7.62×51mm NATO or 7.62×54mmR. Compared to assault rifles and their intermediate cartridges, the higher-caliber rounds provide greater power and range, though they render magazine capacity low and produce strong recoil, making them less than ideal for fully automatic fire.  And the rifles and ammunition are heavy to carry, especially for older folks that are out of shape. Here are three examples:

M14 or new M1A 

FN FAL or new clone 

HK-91 or new clone 

Assault rifles are lighter and less powerful than a battle rifle.  The two most common in the world are the Russian AK-47 (7.62x39) and the American M16 (5.56mm / .223). These Cold War era rifles have faced each other in conflicts since the early 1960s and remain the subject of countless comparisons and endless internet debate.  I own versions of both rifles, and my general assessment is that AKs are heavier and less accurate because they are usually mass produced with heavy steel parts (rolled and stamped) by vodka-soaked commies working on cold-dark assembly lines.  Whereas M16s are lighter because they are made with molded plastic and precision machined aluminum by beer-breathed rednecks working on CAD computers and expensive CNC machines, and less reliable because they are designed to shit where they eat (gas operated).

It is important to note that both the AK-47 and M16 were originally designed as select-fire rifles by two brilliant men, respectively, Mikhail Kalashnikov and Eugene Stoner.  This means they are intended to have both semi-automatic and full-automatic capability.  Full auto means that when the trigger is pulled the rifle keeps firing at a high rate until the trigger is released, or the ammo runs out (very quickly), where semi-auto fires only once per trigger pull.  

In my best Boris Alotovkrap accent: In Soviet Amerika, idiot politician has force genius design basterdized, because politboro decide only supreme government employees can be trusted to possess full-auto capability to defend Motherland (with few very expensive and very burdensome fascist exceptions of course).

We are told this is not tyranny, nor does it infringe on our natural right to bear arms.

Clearly...

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

 

-Orwell's Animal Farm

Again, I beg of you to please...

11.  Read The Law, by Frédéric Bastiat.

12.  Make a list of your natural rights.

13.  Read The Constitution of the United States and The Bill of Rights.

14.  Read Animal Farm, by George Orwell.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-06/hedgelesshorsemans-revolutionar...s

It is important to understand that the civilian version of the M-16 assault rifles, the AR-15 and short barreled version designated M-4, are different and less capable than the original design in use by the tax-payer-funded government employees. Also, both the AK and AR have experienced subsequent redesigns to gerry rig other calibers, such as the AK-74 and AR-10, with less than superior results.

Another important fact to consider is that battle rifles and their ammunition are much heavier than assault rifles.  When you add a magnified optic and an additional 60 to 260 rounds of ammunition, this weight difference really adds up, especially since very few rifle battles are fought entirely from the sitting position, with a bench rest, in the shade, at the rifle range, which you drove to in your air conditioned truck. 

For example:

6.9 lbs for M4 w/ 30 rounds 

10.5 lbs for AK-47 w/ 30 rounds

10.7 lbs for M1A w/ 20 rounds

Remember my mantra for the GBH pack/Bug-Out-Bag:

In general, when given a choice, always choose the lighter weight and/or more expensive option.  Lighter weight is fast.  Lighter weight uses much less energy.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-19-10/fear-we-are-returning-ti...

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-10/elevated-freeways-are-perfect-k...

I will say that I still employ the very light and highly reliable FN FiveseveN and PS90 as mentioned in those articles.  They are great Personal Defense Weapons (PDW), and I trust my life to them, but I wouldn't want to use a PDW as a rifleman fighting for my liberty.

The good news is that there are newer rifles that blend the reliability of the AK's gas piston with the accuracy and lighter weight of the AR, and do so in a design that was meant to accommodate either 5.56 or 7.62 from its inception. The downside is that these new rifles are more expensive.  So?  Sell some stocks (preferably ALLY, CACC, and the Danish banks) and fund the fun.  I am no tax lawyer, thank the Lord, but I think that security is a legitimate business expense.  No?

Here are my three favorite traditional style rifles that meet all of my requirements.  All are top shelf and will make you the envy of everyone down at The Club.  Choose the 5.56 option unless you are a very fit BAMF, then maybe consider the heavier 7.62, especially if you live out west with wide open spaces.

Sig Sauer 516/716 Patrol 

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/rifles-sig516.aspx  

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/rifles-sig716.aspx

 

H&K MR556A1/MR762A1

http://hk-usa.com/product/rifles/

 

FN SCAR 16S/Light 5.56/ 17S/Heavy 7.62

https://www.fnamerica.com/products/tactical/scar-series/scar-16/

https://www.fnamerica.com/products/tactical/scar-series/scar-17/

 

Sadly, yes, they are all European rifles.  Maybe someone will make a good argument for a high quality American-made piston rifle in the comments section below, but the US Military sure does like my three European choices.

Regarding barrel length, get the standard version, and avoid the Federal tax and registration of the shorter barrels.  It is good to be able to buy and sell a rifle at garage sales without reporting it to Big Brother.  Buy a Sig P16 pistol, in addition to the 16" carbine, if you feel you must have a short barrel too.  

If you don't want to hold up a long and heavy barrel, or are small in stature, or a woman, or want to have the same rifle as your wife and kids, like I do, then consider these even more recent designs that are highly compact gas-piston bullpups, with shorter total lengths and ergonomics similar to the PS90, but in heavier and more powerful calibers.  The Tavor is Israel's current military service rifle, and this newer version of the civilian model is supposed to be even better than the first.  I have generally not liked Kel-Tec products (probably a victim of the fallacy that price adds value), but after some familiarization I ordered some of these new .308 bullpups, in the hope that they may someday replace my beloved FNs.  We will see.  It appears the Tavor will only be available in the 5.56 and 9mm. 

Tavor X95 5.56

https://iwi.us/Law-Enforcement/Firearms/X95.aspx

 

Kel-Tec RDB 5.56 / RFB 7.62

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistol/rdb

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifle/rfb

 

A quick sidebar about color and camouflage on a rifle.  The human eye is very good at picking out a black rifle at a distance.  A man carrying a long black object just screams, "rifle," or at least it does to my brain. I like to say that in a fire fight, the guy with the biggest and blackest rifle gets shot first.  I believe that Simo Häyhä would agree.  This is why I spray paint my very expensive rifles and optics in banded patterns of flat tan, brown, and/or green Krylon paint.  You may choose to purchase your rifle from the factory in those colors.  Functional dark earth (FDE) brown or Desert Tan are better for dry areas such as the western USA.  Olive drab (OD) green is better for wooded areas such as the Eastern USA.  Grey is gaining in popularity for urban environments.  And of course white is best if, like The White Death Simo Häyhä, you find yourself fighting in the snow. 

If your spouse is pissed about how much you are spending on a rifle, don't mention the magnified optic and tritium iron sights you are going to put on it. A rifle is only as good as the sights, especially if you are over 30 years old.  In my opinion, for our purpose here in this article, you simply cannot beat a Trijicon ACOG (no batteries, good glass, good reticle design, and absolutely bomb proof) in combination with a set of 45 degree offset Dueck Defense RTS Night Sights.      

TA31F: Trijicon 4x32 ACOG, Dual Illuminated Red Chevron .223 Ballistic Reticle w/ TA51 Flattop Mount 

...or this one for the 7.62/.308 rifles...

TA11E: Trijicon ACOG 3.5x35 Scope, Dual Illuminated Red Chevron BAC .308 Flattop Reticle w/ TA51 Mount

...and a set of these...

Dueck Defense 45 degree Rapid Transition Sight with Trijicon Night Sights

 

To carry your rifle get an Urban Sentry Hybrid Sling in matching Coyote, Olive Drab, or Grey 

To carry additional magazines, get a Blue Force TenSpeed chest rig in matching Coyote, Olive Drab, or Grey

To protect your sight and hearing get and wear good eye and ear protection, ear muffs, not ear plugs.  I like the Wiley-X and Smith shooting glasses.

You can get bulk ammo online at Ammunition To Go.  You will want to start with at least 2,000 rounds and build from there, as you can easily shoot more than 500 rounds in a single weekend of training. 

A range card is not necessary, because both the ACOG and RTS have built-in ranging capability.

You will want to have a cleaning kit something like this. 

Order at least 20 factory magazines to start, a couple of spare firing pins, and a spring set.

I am not a fan of suppressors, because of the registration requirement and the extra weight.  Get one if you feel that you must, but put it in the name of a gun trust.  I hear that the waiting period is currently a few months.

After you take some tactical rifle classes, start shooting your rifle more, gain some proficiency, and begin to read, learn, and think more about fire fights, you will likely learn that there is a trade off between the operational security of a single rifleman and the far greater effectiveness of a fire team.  To that end, I will end the article with a bit about modern day militias excerpted from the website of one here in Texas:

 

http://texasmilitia.info/

 

As an all volunteer force the militia differs from the military. All of our Texas Militia units are autonomous. No militia unit commands any other militia unit and we do not need a state militia commander or a centralized militia command which could be taken out or compromised. All patriots are encouraged to start at least a 3 man fire team in their neighborhood or area and build up from there.

 

It is good if you have had some military training but realize that militia tactics differ from military tactics.The goals of military tactics are to rapidly take and then hold ground while incurring acceptable losses. The militia has no need to rapidly take ground and no need to hold ground. Rather than incur acceptable losses the militia must minimize losses. The military has body armor, medevac, doctors, and hospitals, while the militia has no medevac, no doctors, no hospitals, and few have body armor. The military has re-supply and nearly all the ammo they want while militia resources are limited and our only re-supply would be what we could take from the invaders. The militia trains to fight an extended war of hit and run attrition until the invaders lose the will to fight. The militia teaches guerrilla warfare modified military tactics not military sweep through with acceptable losses tactics.

 

Our militia training is free of charge. Our training is focused on small unit light infantry combat tactics. 

 

We will practice ambushes, counter-ambushes, and patrolling. We will also have class room type training so bring a note book and a pencil too. Our force on force small unit light infantry battle training with blanks will be conducted as combat simulations to learn from not as games.

 

Your first mistake on a battlefield could be your last mistake. We all need to train and we need to train often. Most men are already proficient with a rifle. What you can learn training with us are small unit light infantry combat tactics, how to fight as a team, the art of fire and maneuver, and how to train a local defense group to fight as a team.

 

As it says on New Hampshire license plates, LIVE FREE OR DIE.  Ironic, don't you think, considering the wide spread use of license plate readers by the government that requires licenses to travel freely.

Si vis pacem, para bellum, God bless the United States of America and especially Texas, and God bless each of you dear ZeroHedge readers.

h_h

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Jack's Raging Bile Duct's picture

Fully accessorized Sig Sauer 553 for me. Outstanding in any situation I'm likely to use it in-particularly of the urban variety.

wisehiney's picture

Love hearing those booms echoing down the river valley.

And then my neighbors returning the music.

s2man's picture

I have always liked you,  HH.  Now I like you even more.

My comment: "No sir,  my 7.62x54R with optics is not a 'battle rifle',  its my deer rifle"

Noktirnal's picture

Food for thought... If NATO forces are coming for you, they will be carrying 9mm Luger, 5.56x45, and 7.62x51. Occaisionally -12 ga buck or slug, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP. Weapons for these cartriges are good to have around because ammo can be scavenged... to that point, I suppose weapons could be scavenged as well.

Burticus's picture

HH's shots are all on the paper, mostly in the bullseye, as usual.  I've always figured firearms are primarily for (1) resisting domestic tyranny, (2) repelling foreign invasion, (3) defending against personal threats (crime) and (4) hunting for food.  Potential threats could range from gubmint storm troopers to starving sheeple to the local warlord's marauding band, and venues and circumstances could vary widely.

In a "marauding band," chimp-out or other scenario involving attack by a large number, semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines are essential for overwhelming with superior firepower.  Sig Sauer and Heckler & Koch are indeed the top production rifles, so cost more FeRNs, but are worth it.  Regarding ARs, I am wary about dependability; the first one I bought, a brand new Bushmaster, jammed to hell before I emptied the first mag.  I had to replace the bold carrier group with BCM (Bravo Company) and run it wet.  The same day, one of my comparatively-inexpensive AKs cycled flawlessly through a pile of mags.  When buying an AR, get some expert advice on the best guts, or just go with the Sig or HK.  Similar to HH, I keep an (expendable) AK under the bed.  Recommend at least ten 30-round mags per rifle.  Get (double-drum or "testicle") 100-round Beta mags for AR and Chicom 75 and 100-round mags for AK for extra comfort.  A .50BMG costs a lot of FeRNs, but can also come in handy.

I also agree that a scoped high-powered rifle (30-06, .308 or 7.62x54) is essential, figuring that when the gangleaders mysteriously drop (200 yards away), the followers will rabbit.  Also, millions of snipers "behind every blade of grass" make conquest by mercenary storm troopers very difficult, despite their superior hardware (which can be taken out using improvised means).  However, I figure my Browning semi-auto deer rifles will get this job done, as they have never failed me hunting animals with far better sight, smell and hearing in the deep woods.  Even a cheap old Mosin Nagant will get 'er dun for po' folks.

Shotguns are a worthy addition.  I prefer the higher-end semi-autos.  Again, my hunting shotguns should be good enough to supplement my rifles, though riot shotguns that hold 9 rounds or a Saiga that accepts detachable magazines are superior for (two-legged) rats.

IMO, a semi-auto pistol should be accessible to each adult family member at all times and all children should be educated at a young age.  I prefer compact & sub-compact Kraut single/double-action semi-autos with decocker and high-capacity mags (such as the Sig P229 & P224 and HK USP40C, P2000 and P200SK).  Mine are all standardized in .40S&W, which is .40 superior to 9mm in stopping power, but you can stuff more .40 than .45 ACP ammo in a double-stacked mag.

Buy your 9mm/.40 or 5.56/7.62x39 standard ammo from the big shady ammo dealers in cases of 1,000 rounds, same as you buy gold & silver from the bullion dealers.  Ammo displays at most stores are now a flockin' joke.

The 18th century American revolutionaries believed that The People have inalienable rights and that the militia only represents the militarized collective right to defensive force by every man and boy, as an alternative to standing armies that are always ultimately used to oppress those rights.  Besides the U.S. constitution, the Florida constitution & statutes expressly authorize the militia (Florida State Defense Force), consisting of every able-bodied citizen.  The governor is supposed to appoint an Adjuctant General, who appoints the officers and regulates (organizes, arms and trains) the militia.  Of course, the one ruling (ElephantJackass) political party has utterly rejected our framers' vision at both the federal and state levels in favor of a standing army, so men "armed and free" must govern themselve accordingly.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

 

Good stuff.

I would suggest one change.

The People have inalienable rights and that the militia only represents the militarized collective right to defensive force by every man and boy, as an alternative to standing armies that are always often ultimately used to oppress those rights.

InsaneAngloWarLord's picture

If your plan is to ward off the over reach of government you had better be packing more that guns and ammo. Your advisary is!

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

got 22 down votes..i understand why, alot of good shooters see every problem solved with that hammer.  I have an ak and ar and other small arms..don't shoot great anymore, but for the local criminal i shoot good enough.

that said..taking on a modern army or our militarized police with the arms we see in this article will result in your death..for evidence see recent fla and ca terrorist bullet riddled meat sacks

I am only pointing out what is obvious.  one might want to look at alternate means..see mid east for IED's and ambush tactics..when they are at your door step don't go near that ak,ar.

King of Ruperts Land's picture

..when they are at your door step don't go near that ak,ar

Right.

Pester them with rifle fire when the are at the neighbors door step 5 blocks down and two blocks over.

At pre-planned fire positions with safe retreats.

beaglebog's picture

 

 

This gun porn is entertaining.

 

Buuut, I'd like to point out that "gun ownership" defends precisely fuck-all.

 

Until you find the Will to use them, those guns are nothing more than adornment.

King of Ruperts Land's picture

Distributed civilian gun ownership has a deterrent effect.

Preparing for the civilian militia use of firearms increases the credibility of this deterrence.

Crush the cube's picture

Much better to have at least half a dozen good shape enfields and or moisins stashed with a couple of sealed tins, You can toss and blend, and eventually your going to need help.  All those poor unarmed slobs you left for dead, you ain't winning shit without them.

ImGumbydmmt's picture

certainly not.

Everyone I've trained under or with who was in actual firefights since Vietnam would disagree also. Thye may argue about M-14 vs. AK vs. AR-15 but nobody who been in a fight is going to choose a bolt action. Shit 70 years ago Patton called the Garand the greatest batlle implement ever devised and that only had an 8 roud en bloc clip magazine as an advanrtage over the enfields and Mauser k98.

Every training op I've run, suppressive fire and maneuver was a key aspect to the outcome. one guy with an AK/AR/M14 etc can way the fuck out suppressive fire 3 or 4 guys with bolt actions

A trained buddy team can take tremendous of adantage of cover fire and maneuver.

so instead of a stack of mosin or enfields find a buddy and pay for his ass to get some real training with you, and get matching piston driven AR type firearms just like HH recommends

POF Patriot Ordinacne Factory has made remarkable progress in reliability for the AR platform and is made in the USA.

68,000 round torture test.

http://pof-usa.com/torture/

This is my rifle. after several others this is one to get

I attended a combat application carbine class with my  POF in May, not a single malfunctions in 500 plus rounds over 3 days

instructor borrowed  it over lunch and was hitting targets at 650 meters. 

We were trained to do snap drills from the standing unsupported ready position and hit 12" steel at 100 meters in under 1 second. (well i was the worst guy and only managed 1.5 seconds)

I was Airborne infantry and that aint shit compared to Rangers, SEALs and special forces, and those guys ALL told me to bring and AR to carbine class.

 

 

Manipuflation's picture

What?  If you think overall rate of fire matters then you are mistaken in today's asymetric warfare.  One shot from distance and one kill is the goal.  Take your one shot and disappear.  This whole idea of huge cap magazines is really rather silly.  You need someone to take the first shot and that guy would be me.  I would go for whoever is issuing orders and a head shot.  Then you guys can charge in with your massive rates of fire and mop up.

This is why I have built a rifle like I did and I study ballistics, trajectory, wind sheer and more.   

I am much more of an individual and I operate best on my own but I could support a tactical operation.  There is a big difference between 20th century style military operations and what the current battlefield will look like.  One bullet can do a lot.  Spraying ammo all over the place and potentially hitting innocents is not on my agenda.  

SgtShaftoe's picture

If you're in a gunfight against multiple assailants with more than your lonesome self, you need fire and maneuver.  If you and your family are suddenly surrounded by a neo-nazi biker gang, you're likely going to want to get out of there alive and you're going to want to run a break contact drill.  Just look up break contact SF on youtube for an example.  You will not be effective or alive very long with only a bolt-action rifle if you have someone doing fire and maneuver against you.  Read the comment just above yours.  Lots of people with experience including me, and anyone else who has been there done that will tell you it's a bad plan. 

Lockesmith's picture

Neo Nazi biker gangs will likely be the ones defending you from Obama's family

Manipuflation's picture

Hey HH, we should collaborate on an article about handloading for rifles.  I have been at it for over 25 years and build some incredibly accurate ammo because I have bigtime OCD on overall case dimensions, bullet weights, headspacing, case trimming/chamfering/flash hole deburring, overall length, fireforrming cases, powder selections, primers, bullets.  I have done loading for semi-autos but my expertise is bolt action for precision shots. 

I custom build ammunition for a specific rifle and it is ONLY for that specific rifle because I measure the headspacing and there can be big differences in the same model of rifle.  You want 2/1000ths of an inch ogive to lands jump and no more or less.  I want one shot and I want one kill.

To add to your rules list "be sure of your target and what is beyond it."  I have had hit the deck a couple of times in my deer hunting career because someone was not paying attention to where the bullet would end up if they missed. 

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

To add to your rules list "be sure of your target and what is beyond it."

You may have bigtime OCD, but you missed my rule 4.

4) Be aware of, and take responsibility for, all bystanders that may be behind or near the target.

I doubt ZH readers are interested in taking the time necessary to make accurate hand loads.

That doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile endeavor.

Keep tweakin 'em and I'll keep sending 'em down range.

And God bless you and yours!

Manipuflation's picture

I saw that you covered that but I prefer my wording but it is not an issue.  I only have OCD on certian things.

Your gun articles seem to be popular on ZH so that is why I clicked on and posted here.  No doubt there are other ZHer here who have thought about what they can do with what they already have.  How do you take a regular hunting rifle off the shelf and turn it into a sniper rifle?  What if a ZH reader ends up on the "no fly no buy" list and can't buy a gun.  It is a pain in the ass to buy a gun anymore depending on where you live anyway.  

The big problem is ammunition availability.  A gun is practically worthless if you have no ammo for it.  Look at the prices of ammo these days and if you can even buy it.  I see lots of empty ammo shelves out there and I always check.  Another thing to consider is that even the so called "Premium" ammunition is way out of spec for most rifles.  Take a Post-64 Model 70 carbine in .308 for example.  You can't really custom build bulk ammo for that rifle that will fit in the magazine because the magazine is too short to accommodate the large headspacing gap.  In other words, the overall length of the cartridge is too long.  You can however build a round that chambers and use it as a single shot and achieve sub-MOA accuracy.  I have one and I know.

I think that some people would be interested to know that yes, you can build your own cartridges.  Back in the day, a lot of people "reloaded" cartridges because they thought they were saving money but they didn't know what they were doing and they had poor results.  That is not how to properly do it and dribs and drabs can be found on hte web on how to do it properly but I have yet to see the complete process that I go through ever written about.  For example, I use my NOT made in china powder scale to weigh every bullet after it has passed visual inspection.  Even from the best manufacturer's you will find variances of up to 2 grain + or- on a premium bullet.  Out of a box of 50 premium bullets I might get 25 that I consider near perfect and near consistant.

Interior flashhole de-burring is critical in boxer primed casings.  That is something you can't get with ANY factory ammo and it makes a huge difference.

 

Well, if anyone has questions you know where to find me.

 

A good place to start is Midway.

These Nosler Accubonds are extremely lethal out of my Ruger M77 Mark 2 280 Rem with a Timney trigger.  The Accubonds are a great bullet.            

 

DosZap's picture

Used to be an avid re-loader when I shot a lot of 1000yd targets.Also for std handguns to practice more often at low cost.

As for ammo shortages?, there isn't one,you can buy any popular caliber you want NOW for the best prices I have seen in years.We got a new GOP POTUS. Get it while you  can.

aimsurplus.com

ammuntiontogo.com

ammoman.com

Just to name a few.

Duc888's picture

 

 

So much silliness with the guns.  I like guns. I shoot guns.  Wanna get shit done without killing anyone.  Two week work strike.  Anyone who is not happy with the system....two weeks off from work.

 

Problem solved.

Calmyourself's picture

Yes, I see Hollande has stepped down, the MIC is winding down and freedom rings throughout the land..  Works in France must work here..

Duc888's picture

 

 

We've never given it a try.  You want to run the bases and miss stepping on third base and go right to home plate and start killing people.  I'm saying we should exhaust all options first.  Fuck France, a two week shut down here would have the banksterz and politicians screaming like the little cunts that they are.  Remember, they make money off the skim, off of productivity.  Shut down productivity for two weeks and see how that effects the stawks.

VWAndy's picture

 If that ever gained traction two weeks would be more than enough.

Stu Elsample's picture

...and if the welfare ghetto trash can't get their free EBT card shit from the closed up WalMarts or Mcdonalds for 2 weeks....then what???

They're not known to be patient, or prepared....they're creatures of opportunity who live day to day. And they won't be pleased if their EBT food supply is gone.

 

Keep those ARs and M1As loaded and ready

VWAndy's picture

Let the feral do what they do in thier own beds then let them sleep in it.

Duc888's picture

 

 

They tend to trash their own neighborhoods, which is of no real concern to me.

 

Paradise lost's picture

The magnitude of war propaganda, fear mongering, press, movies, engrandisememt of past conflicts, has turned a once great nation into a state governed by paranoia.

With a diet of war, invasion from above, below and next door govt/media has succeeded in indoctrinating the public to expect dire circumstances around every corner.

Admittedly the world has changed much in the last 20 years and more so in the nex 20.

Hillary is in, you can smell it. So more of the same for the U. S of A. Little matter as its well passed the point of no return.

Just as in nature, countries are born, grow, wither and die. The acceptance of the finality is the toughest to digest.

My message in short, .............. all things come to pass

Paradise lost's picture

Lots of interest in HH's message. Ready for war, obviously the only way forward.

WOD's picture

All my rifles are 7.62, in all three lengths 39, 51, 54r. The PTR 91 is a fine rifle as is the VEPR, the AKM is what it is, and is for what it was made for. Oddly enough, all of my firearms are Czech (CZ), Yugo (AKM), Russian (VEPR), Austrian (Glock). The PTR may be American made, but is a European design. so I don't consider it an American firearm - same as I wouldn't call an American made AKM an American firearm. All I need is a Tokorev in 7.62x25... but all I can usually find are Romy's or Norincos and I don't want Romy's or Chi-Coms.

brushhog's picture

Good, interesting article. I wouldnt use my guns ( against a person ) accept in self defense or defense of my family. As far as 'defending my liberty'...eh, I'm more likely to leave the country if it came to that. My life and my family are more important to me than the politics of America. My personal feeling is that if things become more tyrannical here, then its really the fault of the people for allowing it, and I'm not risking my neck for a bunch of sheep.

RaceToTheBottom's picture

Seems like lots of talking about guns.

I would rather have a bunch of banksters hanging from lampposts.

 

Vendetta's picture

my cheap 'little' mosin is not pinpoint accurate for sure but does quite well in spaces of around 100 yds or so for iron sights. 

Cloud9.5's picture

One man killed 505 communist soldiers with this rifle.  Don’t under estimate what a determined shooter can do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

 

 

All Risk No Reward's picture

dElites just banned all rifles with removable magazines in California. Bill signed by BankstoBrown today.

Dianne Feinstein "Mr & Mrs America turn them all in"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDO86iSKWU

Eric Holder - We Must "Brainwash" People Against Guns! - (1995)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXwo9lARAgg

Brown Signs Six Gun Control Bills, Vetoes Five
http://www.capradio.org/articles/2016/07/01/brown-to-act-on-gun-bills-fr...

Sandmann's picture

so you can now use belt-feed ?

DosZap's picture

Yep, you can buy semi auto belt feeds AR clones.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Here's more discussion... it might not be a complete ban... perhaps just a ban on the sale of new weapons...

CalGuns Bullet Ban Discussion
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1214570

All Risk No Reward's picture

Speaking of which, does anyone have any good recommendations for the best VALUE rifle without removable magazines that is CA compliant after this new law goes into effect?

Socratic Dog's picture

Semi-auto:  SKS (mentioned above), and the mighty M1 Garand, Patton's "greatest weapon ever made".   Can be rechambered to 7.62 x 51 / .308.  On some measures still the best battle rifle ever made.  Refer to Boston's Gun Bible.

Bolt-action: all the WWI-era military rifles.  Mosin-Nagant for reliability, Mauser for quality.  They're all good, relatively cheap, and the ammo can be had pretty cheap too. 

SgtShaftoe's picture

So the bullet button is no longer an option?  That might be the only time I would recommend something like an SKS with plenty of ammo stockpiled on stripper clips.  It's not optimal, but it's something. Many of them were quality made rifles.  Small unit tactics are going to be a bit more complicated with an internal mag, but with enough training, you should be ok. 

The ammo is also non-standard, and is highly susceptible to import problems. 

Duc888's picture

 

 

These are quite nice.  They do a helluva job on an engine block too.

https://www.slickguns.com/product/savage-110-fcp-hs-precision-338-lapua-...

 

All Risk No Reward's picture

My governor Bankster operative infringes my right to removable magazine rifles, I ask a question about on removable magazine rifles, and I get down voted?

Either you are Jerry Brown or a complete schmuck!

MellonBreath's picture

Fuck guns, I want a nuke ICBM aimed at Mecca.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Mecca isn't the biggest problem.

The Debt-Money Monopolists are the problem.

WHO is to blame... the bees in a hive... or the bastard that takes it and throws it through your open window after wacking it a few times.

Root cause, bitchez. ROOT CAUSE.

CA just banned all replaceable magazine rifles... turn them all in, mofos... Did Mecca do that?

One-Eyed-Thong's picture
One-Eyed-Thong (not verified) Jul 1, 2016 5:59 PM

guns are for amatuers

nothing beats an IED at seriously fucking shit up

 

just ask an iraqi vet

Friedrich not Salma's picture

Bills Governor Brown of California signed earlier today will:

— Require an ID and background check to purchase ammunition and create a new state database of ammunition owners

— Ban possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets.

— Restrict the loaning of guns without background checks to close family members.

One-Eyed-Thong's picture
One-Eyed-Thong (not verified) Friedrich not Salma Jul 1, 2016 6:00 PM

these rules only apply if you obey the law...

skinwalker's picture

Tavor all the way for me. Perfect for what I would ever use it for.

Walther PPQ for up close.

Ruger 762 with scope for long range work.

I would trust my life to any of these.

However, I've always taken exception to the following rule:

"Never point the muzzle at something you are not willing to destroy"

I agree this is a great rule most of the time, but I can think of two exceptions:

1. Dry fire practice in front of a mirror to judge your form. Also room/area clearing drills. Check the chamber a dozen times, then check again, and then load a dummy round.

2. While cleaning/servicing a firearm, it is sometimes unavoidable that you cover yourself with the muzzle.