Hacked Emails Confirm NATO Push To Provoke, Escalate Conflict With Russia

Tyler Durden's picture

Just two weeks ago, a huge scandal erupted within another 'union' as Germany slammed NATO for "warmongering" destroying the fictional narrative that 'innocent' NATO was merely reacting to evil Russian provocations. Furthermore, as NATO accelerated its encirclement of Russia, with British soldiers deployed in Estonia, US soldiers operating in Latvia and Canadians in Poland, while combat units are being increased in the Mediterranean... 

NATO found another excuse for war, assessing that it may now have grounds to attack Russia when it announced that if a NATO member country becomes the victim of a cyber attack by persons in a non-NATO country such as Russia or China, then NATO’s Article V “collective defense” provision requires each NATO member country to join that NATO member country if it decides to strike back against the attacking country.

Specifically, NATO is alleging that because Russian hackers had copied the emails on Hillary Clinton’s home computer, this action of someone in Russia taking advantage of her having privatized her U.S. State Department communications to her unsecured home computer and of such a Russian’s then snooping into the U.S. State Department business that was stored on it, might constitute a Russian attack against the United States of America, and would, if the U.S. President declares it to be a Russian invasion of the U.S., trigger NATO’s mutual-defense clause and so require all NATO nations to join with the U.S. government in going to war against Russia, if the U.S. government so decides.

Now, as The Intercept's Zaid Jilani and Lee Fang expose, retired U.S. Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove (yes an ironic name for a warmonger), until recently the supreme commander of NATO forces in Europe, plotted in private to overcome President Barack Obama’s reluctance to escalate military tensions with Russia over the war in Ukraine in 2014, according to apparently hacked emails from Breedlove’s Gmail account that were posted on a new website called DC Leaks.

Obama defied political pressure from hawks in Congress and the military to provide lethal assistance to the Ukrainian government, fearing that doing so would increase the bloodshed and provide Russian President Vladimir Putin with the justification for deeper incursions into the country.

 

Breedlove, during briefings to Congress, notably contradicted the Obama administration regarding the situation in Ukraine, leading to news stories about conflict between the general and Obama.

 

 

But the leaked emails provide an even more dramatic picture of the intense back-channel lobbying for the Obama administration to begin a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.

 

In a series of messages in 2014, Breedlove sought meetings with former Secretary of State Colin Powell, asking for advice on how to pressure the Obama administration to take a more aggressive posture toward Russia.

 

“I may be wrong, … but I do not see this WH really ‘engaged’ by working with Europe/NATO. Frankly I think we are a ‘worry,’ … ie a threat to get the nation drug into a conflict,” Breedlove wrote in an email to Powell, who responded by accepting an invitation to meet and discuss the dilemma. “I seek your counsel on two fronts,” Breedlove continued, “how to frame this opportunity in a time where all eyes are on ISIL all the time, … and two, … how to work this personally with the POTUS.”

 

 

Breedlove attempted to influence the administration through several channels, emailing academics and retired military officials, including former NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark, for assistance in building his case for supplying military assistance to Ukrainian forces battling Russian-backed separatists.

 

“I think POTUS sees us as a threat that must be minimized, … ie do not get me into a war????” Breedlove wrote in an email to Harlan Ullman, senior adviser to the Atlantic Council, describing his ongoing attempt to get Powell to help him influence Obama.

 

 

“Given Obama’s instruction to you not to start a war, this may be a tough sell,” Ullman replied a few months later, in another string of emails about Breedlove’s effort to “leverage, cajole, convince or coerce the U.S. to react” to Russia.

 

Breedlove did not respond to a request for comment. He stepped down from his NATO leadership position in May and retired from service on Friday, July 1. Breedlove was a four-star Air Force general and served as the 17th Supreme Allied Commander of NATO forces in Europe starting on May 10, 2013.

 

Phillip Karber, an academic who corresponded regularly with Breedlove — providing him with advice and intelligence on the Ukrainian crisis —  verified the authenticity of several of the emails in the leaked cache. He also told The Intercept that Breedlove confirmed to him that the general’s Gmail account was hacked and that the incident had been reported to the government.

 

“The last conversation I had about it with General Breedlove, he said, ‘Yeah, I’ve been hacked several times,’” said Karber. He added that he noticed at least one of his personal emails appearing online from the leak before we had contacted him. “I turned this over to the U.S. government and asked them to investigate. No one has given me any answer.”

 

“I have no idea whose account was leaked or hacked,” said Powell, when reached for comment about the emails. Powell said he had no comment about the discussions regarding Obama’s response to the conflict in Ukraine.

 

In the European press, Breedlove has been portrayed as a hawkish figure known for leaning on allied nations to ditch diplomacy and to adopt a more confrontational role again Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine. Breedlove, testifying before Congress earlier in February of this year, called Russia “a long-term existential threat to the United States and to our European allies.”

 

Der Spiegel reported that Breedlove “stunned” German leaders with a surprise announcement in 2015 claiming that pro-Russian separatists had “upped the ante” in eastern Ukraine with “well over a thousand combat vehicles, Russian combat forces, some of the most sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery” sent to Donbass, a center of the conflict.

 

Breedlove’s numbers were “significantly higher” than the figures known to NATO intelligence agencies and seemed exaggerated to German officials. The announcement appeared to be a provocation designed to disrupt mediation efforts led by Chancellor Angela Merkel.

 

In previous instances, German officials believed Breedlove overestimated Russian forces along the border with Ukraine by as many as 20,000 troops and found that the general had falsely claimed that several Russian military assets near the Ukrainian border were part of a special build-up in preparation for a large-scale invasion of the country. In fact, much of the Russian military equipment identified by Breedlove, the Germans said, had been stored there well before the revolution in Ukraine.

 

The emails, however, depict a desperate search by Breedlove to build his case for escalating the conflict, contacting colleagues and friends for intelligence to illustrate the Russian threat. Karber, who visited Ukrainian politicians and officials in Kiev on several occasions, sent frequent messages to Breedlove — “per your request,” he noted — regarding information he had received about separatist military forces and Russian troop movements. In several updates, Breedlove received military data sourced from Twitter and social media.

 

Karber, the president of the Potomac Foundation, became the center of a related scandal last year when it was discovered that he had facilitated a meeting during which images of purported Russian forces in Ukraine were distributed to the office of Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and were published by a neoconservative blog. The pictures turned out to be a deception; one supposed picture of Russian tanks in Ukraine was, in fact, an old photograph of Russian tanks in Ossetia during the war with Georgia.

 

Breedlove stayed in close contact with Karber and other officials who shared his views on the Ukrainian conflict.

 

“Phil, can’t we get a statement to counteract the Russians on use of force? what can I do to help? If the Ukrainians lose control of the narrative, the Russians will see it as an open door,” wrote retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who forwarded on his messages with Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs. He also passed along concerns from the Bulgarian president that Bulgaria might be Russia’s next target.

 

In other messages, Clark relayed specific requests for the types of military aid desired by Ukrainian officials. In addition to radar systems and other forms of military equipment, Clark recommended that Breedlove “encourage Ukraine to hire some first rate pr firms and crisis communications firms in U.S. and Europe.” He added, “They need the right tools to engage in information warfare.”

 

Ukraine did hire several D.C. lobbying and communication firms to influence policymakers. In June 2015, the government signed a deal with APCO Worldwide, an influential firm with ties to senior Democratic and Republican officials.

 

In an email in February 2015, Karber told Breedlove that “Pakistan has, under the table, offered Ukraine 500 TOW-II launchers (man-portable version) and 8,000 TOW-II missiles,” adding that deliveries of the anti-tank weapons could begin by the end of the month. “However,” Karber wrote, “Pakistan will not make these deliveries without U.S. approval; moreover they will not even request that approval unless they have informal assurance that it would be approved.”

 

Karber told The Intercept that the Pakistani arms deal never materialized.

 

Breedlove was most recently in the news explaining that he now thinks we need to talk to the Russian government to resolve the conflict in Ukraine. “I think we need to begin to have meaningful dialogue,” he said last week, while reiterating his views on the need for a strong NATO to militarily match Russia. “Russia does understand power, and strength, and unity,” he said.

With all that in mind, we return to German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier's recent exclamation that "anyone who thinks you can increase security in the alliance with symbolic parades of tanks near the eastern borders, is mistaken," and given the 'proof' above that it is indeed NATO that is provoking and warmongering, the unprecedented reality in which NATO's biggest and most important European member is suddenly and quite vocally against NATO and as a result may be pivoting toward Russian, we for one can't wait to see just how this shocking geopolitical debacle for western neocons and war hawks concludes.

The emails were released by D.C. Leaks, a database run by self-described “hacktivists” who are collecting the communications of elite stakeholders such as political parties, major politicians, political campaigns, and the military. The website currently has documents revealing some internal communications of the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and George Soros’s Open Society Foundation, among others.

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doctor10's picture

NATO-...simply another superfluous legacy 20th century outfit getting in the way of the 21st centiry

santafe's picture
santafe (not verified) doctor10 Jul 1, 2016 9:14 PM

All propaganda. The truth about the conflict with Russia NO ONE dares to reveal:
https://goo.gl/nKJndT

gramps's picture

Get the fuck out of here with your biblicism institute spam you fucking fuck. Fuck!

Troy Ounce's picture

 

 

 

Yeah,  santafe.  Why don't you stick your bible in your ass?

0b1knob's picture

"British soldiers deployed in Estonia, US soldiers operating in Latvia and Canadians in Poland"

500 Brits in Estonia.  2 battalions of US Army in Latvia, about 1000 men.  100 Canadians (gasp!) in Poland.

No info yet on FREE COOKIES or other weapons of mass destruction they may bring with them.

The Russians are either hypersensative, a bunch of pussies, or are just working their propaganda machine on hyperdrive.

War Machine's picture

Nato had around 30k personnel so maybe roughly 6/8 k combat troops involved in exercises.

Plus armor plus air plus anti missile.

Nato is slowly building up all the things youd like to have for an invasion of ukraine.

OrangeJews's picture
OrangeJews (not verified) War Machine Jul 1, 2016 11:42 PM

How dare they speak truth! No one should try to harm the owners! Us plebs don't deserve to even be within a 10 mile radius of the chosen ones. All bow and hail our owners... May they make more this year than the last! I know a trillion is not what it was a mere 8 years ago but they will prevail! We must help them by giving up our rights... This way they will be kind and help us out. They are truly our saviors!!!

>>>please read in MDB's voice.

Manthong's picture

Unfortunately (for him)  that pathetic psychopathic schmuck Breedlove was born about 80 years too late and in the USA instead of Germany…

He would probably have had more success making that case to Hitler and Ribbentrop as opposed to Obama and Hillary.

 

HowdyDoody's picture

A video of Russia SF/advisors in Syria preparing an assault on the US proxy forces. The takfiri groups ISIS/al Nusra/Jaish al Islam/whatever change their names so frequently that the term 'US proxy forces' is the safest description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48JSugZEJ2I

 

 

HowdyDoody's picture

A video of some of Breedlove's proxy forces in action. They are trying to shoot down a Tu-142 Bear anti-submarine aircraft flying over Syria. I guess there is profit in them thar incompetents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhHxQPZyXA

Also this site a video giving more info on the 'Road of Death' created by the Iraqis (using Mi-28s) near Fallujah

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201607020711-6kya.htm

JohninMK's picture

Also there at that 'RoD', says the US are A-10s, F15Es, B-52 etc etc.

WordSmith2013's picture

The only reasom for NATO was for Russia's containment and eventual conquering.

 

http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/12/nato-seeking-russias-destruction-...

 

NATO: Seeking Russia’s Destruction Since 1949

WordSmith2013's picture
STRATFOR Chief Reveals Zio-Anglo-American Plot For World Domination

* * *
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=22223 

 

Anyone who really wants to know what's up with NATO must understand the true back story about the militarization of the INTERMARIUM and the Promethean Strategy to isolate and take over Russia. 

DeadFred's picture

The hard to swallow part of this post is that O is the 'good guy' opposing the wild actions of the neocons around him. The easy part is that DC Leaks seems to be offline. Who could have seen that coming?

ack's picture

Breedlove is being thrown under the bus. He's the sacrifice. The pentagram is nothing but sockpuppets for satan these days. The sane ones were fired or left ages ago. So its impossible Breedlove could make a move -- or write an email -- without Deep State approval and direction. He was following orders from the same folks who direct Obummer.

It's amazing how fast things are unraveling. And we only get to SEE the tip of the iceberg. Everyone is looking for cover. TBH. Not sure I really wanna watch anymore. Cuz those of us who SEE TRUTH don't need to revel and luxuriate in the fallout. There will be punishment and suffering. Often not felt by those who caused the most harm. But they will not go unscathed. This affects humanity. And one suffers the consequences of ones actions. Sowing and reaping. Same as it ever was...   

Killdo's picture

 "Us plebs don't deserve to even be within a 10 mile radius of the chosen ones. All bow and hail our owners."

sounds like the message of Christianity: god is everything - you are nothing!

fleur de lis's picture

Phillip A. Karber is another academic dunce teaching at a university of course.

Isn't that where all all smart dunces end up?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/02/19/say-it-aint-so-phil-ukraine-russia-o...

This is how we get stuck with loud, slovenly, ignorant, pseudo intellectual snowflakes with lousy transcripts telling everyobdy else what to do.

Just like their teachers. 

fleur de lis's picture

Phillip A. Karber also stuck his big nose into the Ukraine as well.

https://drakulablog.com/2015/10/16/potomac-foundation-president-phillip-...

It would appear that Phillip A. Karber has a criminal psycopathy problem.

He has the same taste for blood that is so commonplace in the DC cesspool.

fleur de lis's picture

And woudja look at this -- Phillip A. Karber even knows how to take a swipe at the Chinese on their nuclear weapons --

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/204799/collected-thoughts-on-phil...

So Phillip A.Karber can stick it to the Ruskies and the Chicoms at the same time.

He must be so brave!

I bet he was a big, tough Marine.

Oh, I forgot, Marines get their blood spilled whilst in the service of cowards like Phillip A. Karber.

Who remains in DC and "works" -- read "plays" -- at the private, nonprofit, Potomac Institute.

As in the taxpayers get stuck with the bill.

Which means Phillip A.Karber is a welfare queen who gets other people killed.

"BC 31 said we caught a dirty one..."

 

 

Librarian's picture

I think now we can go back and figure out what happened here with the benefit of hindsight.

I don’t use the word “neocon”.  In my view, the globalist financial scheme to force the US into a war goes far beyond the simple Red vs. Blue distinctions used in the past.  These former labels have since converged for the globalist goal in which the US has been picked to do the globalist’s dirty work.  Perhaps there is such a thing as a “neoliberal”, but I think that the confusion caused by these old labels only serves the purposes of those who are pushing the globalist narrative of Russia as the aggressor by confusing the issues.

McCain, Breedlove, HRC, Nuland and several others of their globalist ilk have been doing their damndest to provoke any sort of conflict with Russia so that the US will eventually stumble into an actual war.  The reasons for this are not so complex.  Any 6th grade mathematics teacher can understand the numbers behind this.  After the US congress decided to pay back the Too Big to Fail investment bankers in 2008 by first bailing them out following their reckless investment gambles and then to assume the debt of nongovernmental organizations Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae on the backs of the US taxpayers – it became clear that these financial parasites had more or less killed their host.  There was simply no more easy money to be had.  The globalists finally discovered the equivalent of discovering one’s own ass with the assistance of both hands, a map and a flashlight – that it's not going to be possible to have any economic growth in the US going forward with a 20t debt. 

So, what does a greedy fucker globalist do in this particular situation?  War.  A war of about two years with an average war economy monthly rate of inflation of 2-3 percent inflation per month inflates away this 20t debt in the two year time period that the US would fight such a war.  Run the numbers yourself and you can verify that after two years of an average war with average monthly inflationary that the debt is down to almost 6t.  Of course, there is the matter of millions of dead, but for the globalists these civilian deaths are similar to the downsizing of a corporation.  For all functional purposes, a war with Russia or China would erase the current US debt.  As a bonus it would also allow the globalists to squelch all the annoying logical talk against such a war.  Hey, it’s not a great plan.  But it does allow those in power to remain in power. 

I was trying to figure out why Breedlove was retired so suddenly.  My best educated guess is as follows.  Breedlove was probably implicated in the scandal involving the fake pictures supplied to Senator Inhofe's office. 

The article touches on it briefly, but here’s a quick summary of that scandal.  Back in February of 2015, the globalists were “full steam ahead” scheming to get the US into a war.  Adjunct Professor (meaning that he is not a full-time professor anywhere, aka – he was never good enough to be considered for tenure at any real university) Karber has made his bank for the past decade serving up one-sided propaganda pieces to the globalist war hawks.

Senator Inhofe was a sponsor of a bill to supply lethal aid to Ukraine to use against the Russians.  Everything was going swimmingly and it appeared that the bill would pass and that guns would be (legally) supplied to Ukraine.  US-supplied weapons are still making their way to Ukraine in spite of no officially sanctioned US-supplied lethal aid to Ukraine, but that is another story.

Part-time Professor Karber was brought on board with his shady NGO “the Potomac Foundation” to “assist” the Ukrainian delegation that came to the US to present evidence in favor of US lethal aid to Ukraine.  Their premise was simple – Russia had already invaded Ukraine and they had the photos to prove it.  A Buzzfeed reporter quickly discovered that the photos relied on by the Ukrainian delegation were bogus.  They instead were from other conflicts in the past and none were taken in Ukraine that showed any Russian military presence.

The Ukrainian delegation went home empty handed.

Once they were back in Ukraine, the members of this delegation began to lick their wounds and to compare notes.  They figured out that it was Karber that had fucked them over by supplying the fake pictures to Senator Inhofe.  Karber for his part only would say that “it was an unfortunate misunderstanding”.

http://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20150213/226262226.html?id=226262589

http://www.ua-reporter.com/novosti/164763

http://nvdaily.ru/info/41521.html

I’m guessing that Breedlove was somehow caught up in this fake photo scandal.  As far as I know it’s still a crime to provide false or misleading testimony to a congressional committee, notwithstanding the James Clapper false testimony exception.  This would explain Breedlove’s sudden reassignment. 

I would be interested to know if the Potomac Foundation is financed by the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) or by Soros.  I am not a journalist.  I only have access to the limited resources of a retired volunteer librarian. Perhaps someone else can take on this bit of research.  One of the members of the Ukrainian delegation to the US Congress was Anatoly Pinchuk.  Anatoly Pinchuk is the brother of Victor Pinchuk who is to date the largest foreign contributor to the Clinton Global Initiative.  Why he would be involved in this delegation is something of a mystery.  He was not involved in the Ukrainian government at the time.  Also he didn’t appear to have any particular interest in whether Ukraine received lethal aid or not.  His only accomplishment appears to be that he is the brother of someone who funneled millions of dollars to the Clintons.  Ukraine has been a country on the very edge of financial collapse for over a decade.  What is the source of the Pinchuk millions that was given to the Clintons?  Is it even possible that the US government is the indirect source of this money – was the Pinchuk donation originally aid money from the IMF and the US to Ukraine which was stolen by the Pinchuks and then sent to the Clintons?  Wouldn’t that just take the cake…

Finally, I’ll share a few caveats about online translators.  None of them are perfect.  You should use more than one online translator when reading news stories in different languages.  I use translate.yandex.ru and translate.google.com as my primary online translators.

earleflorida's picture

Excellent POV and analysis

thankyou

Normalcy Bias's picture

Doesn't anyone else think this reeks of DISINFO shielding Obama in case a war begins?

This definitely doesn't pass the smell test.

Swave's picture

There is something wrong with the picture of him. An off horizontal line is running across his shoulders. His body is not facing the camera nor is his face. He is looking down at the camera with half closed eyes and a sneer on his face.

Any military portrait I have seen everything is squared away with the person looking straight at the camera.

Makes me think something more is going on. Maybe he is not into it and is signaling ala the POW photos or it is photo shopped.

It is hard to believe he would be using an unsecure gmail account.

Oh also he has a black snake crawling out of his jacket and pointing to something on his right lapel.

earleflorida's picture

obama, as in all past 2`term presidents, wants to leave his final year decisions/pressing issues to the next administration... and, in this case they always leave a recession for the lucky winner

 its just the way things worked throughout usa history

ps. his biggest mistake was sos hitlary,... but, this guy had made so many blunders, no one will ever be able to 'pin-the-tail-on-this-donkey's fuck-ups'..., who was way outa his league to begin with. 

 

sun tzu's picture

How did the hypersensitive Americunt pussies react when the Russians put a few missiles in Cuba?

neutrino3's picture

Maybe it is some genetic luuure syndrome?

shovelhead's picture

Armed Muslims surrounding your house?

Pfttt. You're just being hypersensitive. I'm sure they just want to invite you to a halal BBQ.

True Blue's picture

Those are only the ones 'permanently' stationed there; NATO keeps rotating units in and out, much like they do on Korea's DMZ. It isn't 'permanent' if they go for a month, then their replacements show up for the next month etc.

How about the parade of tanks 300 meters from the Russian border?

Artillery within range of St. Petersburg, Russias second most populous city?

The so-called 'missile defense shield' installations springing up on Russia's borders?

If Russia did any of those things; like say putting artillery just across the Mexican border from San Diego, or missiles in Cuba.... how would the warmongers in the District of Corruption (and You) react?

Knob.

Déjà view's picture

That you McCain or Phalin? Had both of you been at helm, 'Breedhate' & bankers would have had their wish.

dexter_morgan's picture

They may yet have their wish if the cankleappottamus wins.

War Machine's picture

breedlove isnt a khazar (whatever that means) - but he is a fucking imbecile who is listening to imbeciles who are paid by Soros and focus mainly on using a controlled media to Orwellize events enough to get them their war for a unipolar world (with the unipower largely puppeteered by a cabal of jews and old money wasps).

MANvsMACHINE's picture

The opposite of Breedlove isn't Breedhate. It's Breedindifference. That's what I've been told anyways.

fleur de lis's picture

Breedlove is an academic dunce with poor written English skills.

He doesn't know the difference between "drug" for "drag."  

He must have been a pestilent 4th grader because clearly he did not pay attention. 

"...a threat to get the nation drug into a conflict."

"...a threat to drag the nation into a conflict."

Does anyone have his early academic transcript?

Or is it under lock and key like the genius Obama? 

Winston Churchill's picture

Its his grammar,incorrect conjugation of proper English.
Don't shat yourself over it.

monk27's picture

He actually meant that you need to drug the nation first in order to push into a war, especially into one with Russia. Me thinks he was right...

True Blue's picture

Breedlove or Strangelove?

Is there a difference?

Have you learned to stop worrying and Love the Bomb?

yellensNIRPles's picture

I hope you choke to death on an overly hot Hot Pocket.

algol_dog's picture

Even David Duke, of KKK fame, has renounced this theory, after new information revealed from DNA sampling of Jews around the world. The evidence indicates there is little variance between the scattered Jewish settlements around the world indicating a common ancestry, or race. There is no evidence of a separate, or outside group infiltrating and assuming itself as Jewish (ala Khazar's). This puts the so called Khazar theory to rest. Seems the Jews really are a true race after all. 

shovelhead's picture

They ain't listening. They love their Khazars and they're gonna keep 'em no matter what.

Reality is just too damn boring.

RealityCheque's picture

Yes that's how you convert the non-believers, with spam!!

Fuck off.

JonNadler's picture

Is that General Buck Turgidson from Dr. Strangelove? in the pic

 

 

johngaltfla's picture

The sad part is, if Obama gets his war before January 20, 2017, he can declare a national emergency, suspend the election results, suspend the Constitution, and surrender to Russia after 3 weeks of war and a limited nuclear exchange.

Got Vodka?

rejected's picture

The constitution has been eviscerated since 1861.

Jack's Raging Bile Duct's picture

Hyerbolic idiot. Nothing would be more counter-productive to TPTB.

True Blue's picture

Really?

With Krugman saying that a fake 'war' against 'space aliens' would 'save' the economy?

Bear in mind, TPTB's minions miserably failed to understand the Broken Window Fallacy -which means they are anything but rational. Given that, what is to stop them from creaming their jeans over not just broken windows, but whole cities of irradiated slag, especially given that those cities are populated with us 'ignorant masses'?

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) johngaltfla Jul 1, 2016 11:18 PM

I said that a long time ago, he wants to stay, thinks he is FDR and world war is the way to stay.

A General talks about wanting to start WW3 on a fucking gmail account?

These people are all using Gmail,  I bet Obama has several too, one for sending dick pics around.

And look at that crazy pic of Gen Warmonger, looks like something out of Dr. Strangelove just make it black and white.

sun tzu's picture

Wanting to stay and staying are two different things. There are 100 million people with guns in America that would make it dangerous for any dictator. 

Falcon49's picture

Unless we are so divided as a people and there is such fear and chaos going on.....that the people will accept just about anything as long as they are safe.  It seems to be the formula they are and have been using on the rest of the world.  They have been setting environment and processes up in the US and all they need is the right catalyst or series of events to set the process for creating chaos and fear in motion.