Erdogan Purges 20,000 As Europe Voices Concern Coup Was Staged With "Prepared Arrest Lists"

Tyler Durden's picture

Overnight Turkish president Erdogan's counter-coup witch hunt continued, when thousands of police officers were suspended on Monday, widening a systemic purge of Erdogan's enemies first in the armed forces and then judiciary after a failed military coup, now focusing on the interior police force, and raising concern among European allies that it was abandoning the rule of law. Turkey's state-run news agency says the nation has detained or suspended 20,000 personnel across the country, following Friday's foiled coup attempt.

Anadolu Agency says a total of 8,777 employees attached to the ministry were dismissed, including 30 governors, 52 civil service inspectors and 16 legal advisers

Thirty regional governors and more than 50 high-ranking civil servants have also been dismissed, CNN Turk said. Thousands of members of the armed forces, from foot soldiers to commanders, were rounded up on Sunday, some shown in photographs stripped to their underpants and handcuffed on the floors of police buses and a sports hall. Several thousand prosecutors and judges have also been removed.

Bloomberg summarizes as follows: more than than 7,500, including more than 6,000 soldiers from various ranks detained by police, Turkish PM Binali Yildirim says in televised remarks. Those detained include 755 judges and prosecutors, 650 civilians and 100 police officers. Separately, about 9,000 from the Interior Ministry, 3,00 judges and prosecutors and 1,500 staff members of Finance Ministry have been removed from duty.

In total, approximately 20,000 political opponents "purged" just days after the conclusion of the failed coup.

At the same time speculation that the terribly planned "coup" was anything but came from the European Commission itself. As Reuters adds, the swift rounding up of judges and others after a failed coup in Turkey indicated the government had prepared a list beforehand, according to EU commissioner dealing with Turkey's membership bid, Johannes Hahn, said on Monday. 

"It looks at least as if something has been prepared. The lists are available, which indicates it was prepared and to be used at a certain stage," Hahn said. "I'm very concerned. It is exactly what we feared."

It is also exactly what Erdogan has expected and hoped for. And with broad western support for Erdogan over the weekend, his mission to concentrate all Turkish power in his own hands is now assured.

Meanwhile, Erdogan on Sunday told crowds of supporters, called to the streets by the government and by mosques across the country, that parliament must consider their demands to apply the death penalty for the plotters. "We cannot ignore this demand," he told a chanting crowd outside his house in Istanbul late on Sunday. "In democracies, whatever the people say has to happen."

Once again, Europe pushed back however, when Volker Kauder, parliamentary leader of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s party bloc, said Turkey must obey the rule of law. “If the death penalty were to be decided, the negotiations would certainly be at an end,” Kauder says in ZDF television interview, referring to talks with the EU. “We mustn’t let it go unchallenged if the rule of law isn’t obeyed.”

Austrian Foreign Minister Sebastian Kurz also said it would be unacceptable for Turkey to reintroduce the death penalty, which it abolished in 2004. Abolishing capital punishment was a prerequisite for talks with Turkey on membership of the European Union, to which it still aspires.

But... this is Turkey: the law is whatever Erdogan says it is.

Others also realized what they have done, but it was too late. EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini warned the Turkish government on Monday against taking steps that would damage the constitutional order. "We were the first... during that tragic night to say that the legitimate institutions needed to be protected," she told reporters on arrival at an EU foreign ministers meeting, which was also to be attended by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

"We are the ones saying today rule of law has to be protected in the country," she said in Brussels. "There is no excuse for any steps that take the country away from that."

Actually the excuse came and went over the weekend, when - with Europe's blessing - Erdogan not only repelled the fake coup, but also got a green light to crackdown on anyone who is even remotely critical of him.

And, oh yes, Erdogan still holds all the leverage: some two million Syrian refugees he can unleash on Europe at any moment he wishes.

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DeathMerchant's picture

Only the radical moslem dirty bedsheet types love him. The ones who favor a western type society do not.

SpanishGoop's picture

18,000 ?

So that is 18 persons a room in his 1000 room palace ?



slowimplosion's picture

Coup or false-flag bullshit.  You decide.

Jtrillian's picture

Does it matter?  Erdogan has seized on the opportunity to round up thousands of dissenters at once.  Never let a good tragety go to waste.  Next will be the firing line (or gas chambers) unless other nations step in.  Erdogan is as close to Hitler as they come.  God forbid he gets his hands on the US nukes over there.  He'd probably use some (against the Kurds), sell some (to Saudi Arabia and ISIS) and keep some. 

This man is as evil as they come.  It is a huge mistake for the West to prop him up in the name of their business interests.  He already has too much popularity.  Turkey is a good example of how a nation goes bad.  He idolizes Hitler and is following in his footsteps - except this time it will be the Kurds and Anglo Saxons in Europe.  He even tries to look like Hitler.  

He needs to be stopped before he gains any more traction.  Failure to do so will only make the situation worse. 

whatamaroon's picture

Yes, to both. The premier of Turkey was always the strongest until Erdgodn made him resign, more power consolidation by him.

captain-nemo's picture

Erdogan was mad enough to trick the Russian and shoot down one of their planes,  risking the outbreak of ww3. Why wouldn’t he risk staging a coup in his own country to allow him to assassinate all his enemies in one single operation ?  Complete mad people are often geniuses in a complete insane way.

Herdee's picture

It takes European people's attention away from whate's wrong in the Italian and German banking sectors.Nothing like a big distraction.Seems like a staged event in coordination with the CIA.

samsara's picture

No, I think it was Turkey taking advantage of the turmoil to do what he had been planning under cover of other events.

A caution to us that others may use the same routine.

NOT unlike how 911 convienently was used to roll out patriot act which was already written and just waiting for the right conditions.

Boubou's picture

Yes - and also roll out the PNAC program. It was so handy , if 9/11 had not existed, it would have been necessary to invent it. 'Course Iraq had zero to do with 9/11 but hey- they won't see that through the fog of war.

Huh Reeeally's picture

The template to transition from police state to tyranny and martial law has been tested in a NATO country.

Not unlike the bank bail-in test done to Cyprus by the EU to steal <Russian> deposits. All our countries have bail-in laws now.

US already demo'd digital currency to bankers, will this be the sheiss$ that Jim Willie speaks of?

A couple more hits to the constitution, an almost certain president crisis looming. Not to mention all the $hit we don't know about. Hold onto your hats!

snakehead's picture

bans flights from and to after failed military coup.

 2h2 hours ago

Turkey claims it's safe for Russian tourists

Neochrome's picture

Mickey Mouse coup followed by the Night of the long knives.

Nothing to see, move along.

Yen Cross's picture


Hugo Chavez of the Mediterranean = Recep Tayyip Erdogan


  I wonder if I should load up on toilet paper stocks?

  I guess Recep reads Z/H

Jtrillian's picture

The USA needs to get their nukes out of Turkey YESTERDAY!!!  They are at risk of being seized.  Screw your business interests.  Get them out while you still can.   You do not want this tyrant to have nukes.  It was a bad foreign policy decision to proliferate nukes via "sharing" in the first place.  If nothing is done, it could also be yet another policy that comes back to haunt the USA.  Get them out now!

Huh Reeeally's picture

Interresting that these 'leaders' are so concerned about the democratically elected gov in Turkey repressing its people and commiting genocide against the Kurds, but when it comes to Syria, a country that protects all religions and does no harm around the world, the democratically elected gov has to go!

"In democracies, whatever the people say has to happen." Yeah, thanks for that, Erdogan.

Do as I say, not as I do, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sidiji's picture

erdogan is flying high now, but if you start living by the terror sword, you soon die by it.  Fucker is about to hand over a modern NATO military to the most extremist sunni elements of the muslim world (ISIS, Al Queda, Saudi wahabists).  Obama fucked up big time, especially when he knee jerked call for support for the erdogan regime.  The CIA had better clean house on this one, we cannot afford to lose turkey to islam extremism. falling dominoes

Boubou's picture

What they need to do is reduce Ankara to rubble , destroy water and electrical infrastructure and then back off and watch the flowering of democracy and the dissapearance of terror,  like we have done so often in the past.

patrickhenry61's picture

No one trusts what the EU states, but now everyone listens to them and take heed. There's no flag operation, whether false, black or rainbow. Erdrogan knew something was up, but couldn't put his slimey finger on it. It included the rest of all law enforcement and the military loyal to Erdrogan. It was just a faction, i'm sure bribed by the State Department, hoping to start a Turkish Maidan style coup. The reverse happened. The final answer came from the Turks themselves, who don't want blood on the streets, and would deal with Erdrogan on their terms. 

War Machine's picture

Wide Purges After Stage-Managed Coup Will Cripple Turkey

"As fake evidence now gets sorted out from the real stuff considerable evidence emerges that the coup in Turkey was either completely staged or at least a controlled provocation as a prelude to large, well planned purges.

While some junior officers involved in the coup may have believe that it was for real, Erdogan and his power apparatus knew that the coup was coming and had everything under control. One wonders how those juniors were deceived and what provoked them into their amateurish, hapless attempt. ...."

^Pretty good analysis.

conraddobler's picture

Europe voices concerns? 

Has this risen to the level of composing a strongly worded letter yet?

Paging the ghost of Neville Chamberlain

Ghost of Nevillle Chamberlain party of concern your table is ready.

Boubou's picture

I know - dissapointing arent they?. I want to read  " Europe apoplectic with rage"

snakehead's picture

It's on. With the fucked up Dept of State and Obama in charge.

 7m7 minutes ago

Pro-Erdogan's storm Incirlik base right now.

DonBadajoz's picture

Obumer, must of gave him some pointers. 

Sizzurp's picture

Why is Turkey in NATO? Erdo is a complete whack job that will do anything to hold onto power. He seems to be cut from the same cloth as Sadam, only worse.

Wild E Coyote's picture

Because Turkey is doing what NATO is doing too. Threatening Europe to get some extra cash inprotection racket. 

In fact the way Turkey prepared the list is similar to how NATO prepared list of people to blame when anything bad happens. 

Only NATO list is much shorter - Blame Putin. 

Boubou's picture

They'd welcome the devil into NATO if it would help subdue the world, starting with Russia and China - the only two countries with the balls to pusue an independent policy.

css1971's picture

I Know! They don't even have any access to the Atlantic.

therover's picture

It went from 1,200, to 6,000 to 18,000.



pocomotion's picture

Shocking!  Just shocking!

Anopheles's picture

- Did Erdogan plan and execute the coup?   No

- Was he aware of "something" going on?  Yes

- Did he "let it happen"?   Probably

- Did he prepare lists of possible dissidents beforehand?   Absolutely


He's just doing what all paranoid dictators have done for millennia.  They KNOW they have enemies and they keep track of them, just in case they do something foolish.   It's called prudent planning. 

Remember the old saying?  Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.... 


just the tip's picture

yeah, that saying comes from a mafia theme.  interesting analogy.  who's gonna sleep with the fishys?

Anopheles's picture

Actually, it originally comes from Niccolò Machiavelli in the early 1500's

Another quote from Machaivelli: 

It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
Dr. Bonzo's picture

- Did Erdogan plan and execute the coup?   No


Patently nonsensical. Erdocunt flew into Istanbul Int'l airport within hours of the coup being staged. Istanbul Intl Airport and Bosphorus Bridge were 2 locations where camera coverage was virtually nonstop on various international channels. If Erdocunt had no foreknowledge of coup at all, how the fuck can he fly into the one location where he must suspect coup plotters have troops? Sorry, but complete and utter bullshit. You've obviously never feared for your life before.

Erdocunt's plane actually had a working transponder the entire time and was pinging nonstop. Basically anyone with a phone app could see his fucking location. But the alleged coup plotters are too fucktarded to figure this shit out? I was watching his plane within 2 hours of receiving text messages of a coup in Turkey. European plane spotter networks are better than the fucking CIA or NSA when it comes to that shit. If it has wings or blades, Europeans know about it and communicate it with eachother.

Third, funny how Erdocunt managed to get his message out to swarm the streets. Not only that, the mobs of alleged random strangers seemed better organized and turned out to be far more lethal in their intent than the draftee soldiers standing around the various locations where they had been ordered to position. Again, everything hints at organizational prepration on large scale. Unless you have a convincing working thesis why military units are less well organized than random mobs. And subsuming the Turkish army is gun-shy about shooting civilians..... let's not even go there. Ask the Kurds or Armenians about the Turks. Fuck, ask the Koreans. Turkish Army has a reputation for being brutal motherfuckers. Uncle Sam's favoriate go-to lapdog when they're on our side. In short, none of this shit adds up in the slightest. Your casual supposition assumes the Turk army is staffed by professional idiots and incompetents while random mobs possess Einsteinian levels of organizational acumen. What a bs.

Your rather casual dismissal of Erdocunt's supposed lack of foreknowledge simply glosses over too many obvious indications that the coup was instigated by Erdocunt and that Erdocunt at all times knew exactly what was going on.




Anopheles's picture


And that's your "PROOF"?      A bunch of incoherent gibberish?  Oh yeah, conspiracy theories.  Sheesh. 

I can hop onto a commerical flight to almost anywere in the wrold in less than 2 hours.


Look up Occam's razor

Dormouse's picture

What dictator doesn't have an extensive kill list?

Walhei's picture

What I want to know is,  of those arrested,  how many are Christians?  How many are Muslims?

Turkey spent 20 yaers reforming its self into a Democracy, to get into NATO.  After getting in, Turkey is quickly remaking itself into another Islamic State,  with a  Dictator as its head.  

It is inbred into Muslims to want a strong man government.  That comes from it's religion; Islam.  Islam comes from Satan, a strong and evil dictator.

AG900's picture

If it was pre-planned it was the fuckin yanks!

SirBarksAlot's picture

More like the yanks planned the coup and Putin tipped Erdogan off, by showing him Hillary's emails.

And, btw, the fuckin yanks are victims of the same con-artist media that you are.  And since you're here on ZH, you know the 3-City Empire emanates from your capitol, not the Pentagon.

sweeeetwater's picture

The United States apply the death penalty, but only blow-job & swallow, for Uncle Sam. Oh yeah!

Zero-Hegemon's picture

I keep coming back to Zh this morning and the number in the headline keeps increasing, first a few thousand, then six thousand, etc., etc., now up to 20,000. I wonder how high the purge will go.

IridiumRebel's picture

POS' like Erdogan become paranoid as they command power and make it central to their whims. Add in the Islamic angle and you'll see this go into the millions. Probably currently at 100K plus. People will be disappeared and mass executions with little judicial oversight will follow as Turkey becomes Sharia based. This is just getting started. He is evil and now has total control with little fallout from state "friends" and NATO. He also commands one of the largest armies in the world...with nukes. It's a shitty combo.

Robert Trip's picture

Never  met a Turk I liked.


Zero-Hegemon's picture


css1971's picture

Y'know. If he keeps this up, he's going to need a giant mincing machine to execute them all.

A few gallows isn't going to cut it.

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