If The Fact Neocons Are Now Supporting Hillary Clinton Confuses You, Read This

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Submitted by JP Sottile via TheAntiMedia.org,

What’s a Neocon to do?

Bill Kristol is downright despondent after his failed search for an alternative to Donald Trump. Max Boot is indignant about his “stupid” party’s willingness to ride a bragging bull into a delicate China policy shop. And the leading light of the first family of military interventionism — Robert Kagan — is actually lining up Neoconservatives behind the Democratic nominee for president of the United States.

At the same time, the Democrats have become the party of bare-knuckled, full-throated American Exceptionalism. That transformation was announced with a vein-popping zeal by retired general and wannabe motivation screamer John Allen at the Democratic convention in the City of Brotherly Love. During his “speech,” a few plaintive protests of “no more war” were actually drowned-out by Democrats chanting “USA-USA-USA!”

This is the same Democratic Party often criticized by Kagan & Co. as the purveyors of timidity, flaccidity, and moral perfidy.  It’s not that Democrats haven’t dropped bombs, dealt arms, and overturned regimes. They have. And they’ve even got the Peace Prize-winning Obama-dropper to prove it.  But unlike enthusiastically belligerent Republicans, the Dems are supposed to be the party that does it, but doesn’t really like to do it.

But now, they’ve got Hillary Clinton. And she’s weaponized the State Department. She really likes regime change. And her nominating convention not only embraced the military, but it sanctified the very Gold Star families that Neocon-style interventionism creates. It certainly created the pain of the Khan family who lost their son in the illegal war in Iraq. But the Dems didn’t mention that sad fact as they grabbed the flag away from the Republicans.

Now that’s truly Neo-confusing.

It kinda feels like reality has slipped off its axis and we’ve landed on a Bizarro World version of America. Democrats are acting like Republicans. Pat Buchanan is championing the GOP’s “Peace Candidate.” And the Neocons are fleeing from a party they’ve used like a geopolitical cudgel for the better part of three decades.

At first glance, it all makes sense. Trump captured the GOP nomination in no small part by trashing two of the Neocons’ favorite things ever — the Bush family and the Iraq War. He also suggested early on that he’d approach the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as (gasp!) an honest broker. Trump said he really wanted to “make that deal.” Without irony, one-time Neocon wonderboy Marco Rubio remarked that it isn’t a “real estate deal” when, in fact, that’s exactly what it is.

But the ever-pliable Trump quickly got religion on Israel. He did an about-face, marched into AIPAC’s annual confab, and staked out a claim on the reflexively pro-Israel side of the issue. But it wasn’t enough to assuage the angst of the GOP’s forever-circling hawks.

Frankly, nothing seems enough to sway the Neocons in Donald’s direction. But it’s not for lack of trying on Trump’s part. Really, he’s checked off many of the boxes that make Neocons smile.

Trump wants a “yuuge” military … the biggest and baddest ever! So big, that no one in a million years will ever challenge it. That sure sounds a lot like Reagan’s “peace through strength.” Neocons do love Reagan. And, as if on cue, the Kristol/Kagan-led “Foreign Policy Initiative” just posted a clarion call to spend more bucks to buy bigger bangs for an already gargantuan military. Doesn’t that fit with Donald’s plan to spend defense dollars like a drunken sailor?

Maybe Neocons don’t want the military to be so big that no one will ever try anything. Maybe they want a few challenges here and there, just for a little creative destruction to keep the world on its toes. But Trump’s right there with them. He wants to “bomb the shit” out of ISIS. And he even said America has “no choice but to bomb Libya” and “take out” the Islamic State.

C’mon, Neocons … what’s not to like?

And how about Trump’s Islamophobia? It sure seems simpatico with the last two decades of Neoconservative drum-beating. Trump repeatedly uses the magic words — “Radical Islamic Terrorism.” Can’t you just hear the longing sighs coming out of the American Enterprise Institute? He also wants to ban Muslims. Or “just” ban people coming from countries where Muslims have committed terrorism. Who knows? Either way, the message is “Muslims bad.” It even gave Neocon bushwacker Frank Gaffney a serious man-crush on The Donald.

To be fair, other less “fringy” Neocons like Kristol have repudiated the Muslim ban idea. But, as filmmaker Robbie Martin showed in his just-completed series on the Neocons and their “very heavy agenda,” even the most intellectually renowned among them has engaged in the dangerous stereotyping of all Muslims as terrorists.

In fact, Martin featured a frightening clip of two Kagans (Robert’s dad Donald and his brother Fred) making the case that the US military should clean out the Occupied Territories in the aftermath of 9/11 because radical Muslims and “the Arabs” are all basically the same. Oh, by the way, they only respect brute force.  So why not take advantage of the “New Pearl Harbor” and show them all who’s boss?

It’s kinda like the “dancing Muslims” Trump — and only Trump — saw celebrating the 9/11 attacks in New Jersey. Even if he didn’t see them, or just conflated them with an isolated incident in East Jerusalem, what’s the difference? It’s all the same to him. Just like aggrieved and aggressive Muslims were all the same to the Kagans on 9/11. Doesn’t that make Trump’s persistent suspicion of Muslims a perfect match for the Neoconservative wrecking crew?

And then there’s the Iran nuclear deal, which Trump has relentlessly criticized as being so bad that it’s downright suspicious. He said he wants to “renegotiate” immediately after taking office. And he wrongly claims the deal is a fast-track to a nuclear-armed Iran (an error that puts him squarely in the Neocon camp). As a rule of thumb, he’s livid about all things related to Iran. So, what’s the problem? Why can’t the Neocons wrap their arms around Donald Trump?

In a word — it’s Russia.

It’s framed as a troublesome “bromance” between Vladimir Putin and Trump. Critics don’t like Trump’s comfort with a “dictator” who, as Kagan’s wife Victoria Nuland recently told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, engages in “aggression.” She’s currently the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs. She basically managed the 2014 coup in Ukraine. And she’s outraged by Russian aggression in Ukraine. But she’s nonplussed by her husband’s role in pushing for the most blatant and wanton act of aggression thus far this century — the unwarranted destruction of Iraq.

Go figure.

On the other hand, Putin has the unmitigated gall to move military forces around inside the borders of his own country. He’s blamed for hacking the Democratic Party — despite a lack of actual evidence and the NSA’s own hacking hijinks. And he’s accused of “meddling” in U.S. elections — a pretty rich accusation given America’s long history of surreptitious electioneering around the world.

There is no doubt that “Bad Vlad” likes Donald. And Donald likes Vlad. But the real problem isn’t their bromance. This is about the Neoconservative desire to make sure the United States is the lone guarantor of the geopolitical order. This is about Pax Americana. This is about resurrecting the faded dream of a new American century.

And what stands in the way of the type of the Neocon dream of global “full-spectrum dominance?” Russia’s nuclear arsenal.

Russia is the only nation with an arsenal big enough to withstand the subtle nuclear blackmail of America’s trillion-dollar nuclear “upgrade.” That’s why Russia is concerned about the missile defense systems arrayed on their border. Those systems can knock down retaliatory strikes, thus making a first strike with new nuclear cruise missiles at least theoretically possible.

The United States is also using NATO expansion to increasingly encircle a nation that once was America’s geopolitical equal. That’s why Trump’s criticism of America’s outsized support for NATO must’ve been the tipping point from disdain to panic among Neocon and Neoliberal interventionists alike.

The oddity is that there does seem to be more than a passing affinity between Trump and Putin. Trump’s statements on Ukraine would be easily dismissed if his campaign manager Paul Manafort hadn’t worked as a political consultant to the pre-Nuland leadership of Ukraine. And Trump’s statements on Crimea might be written off if he’d release his taxes and end speculation of financial ties to Putin’s regime.

But the visceral reaction against his repeated calls for cooperation — “By the way, wouldn’t it be great if we got along with Russia?”— exposes the extent to which the entire foreign policy and political establishments are squarely on the same page. They are angling for Cold War 2.0, and Trump is the only major figure willing to challenge that orthodoxy.

Unlike Hillary Clinton, of course, which brings the whole thing back to the miasma of confusion hanging over this strange election. Hillary is on the Neocon team — if not in name, certainly in deed. She will “stand up” to Bad Vlad. She’s targeted by Russian hackers because Putin prefers his “unwitting agent” Donald Trump. And Donald is, according to an emerging narrative, a latter-day Neville Chamberlain just inviting the Ruskies to take over the Baltic States, Ukraine, and God knows what else.

The greatest irony of all is that Trump catapulted over the Neocons’ preferred presidential options by slamming their pet project — the War on Iraq. Trump’s criticism of that war and the chaos it unleashed resonated with the very voters the Neocons took for granted as pliable, fear-responsive bumpkins. That left them out in the cold just as they were angling to trump the disorderly, hard-to-prosecute mess they call “The Global War on Terror.”

What they really want, and have always wanted, is to revive the greatest war of all — the Cold War. That’s the grand chessboard they yearn to play on once again.  The War on Terror was really just a stop-gap, like methadone for imperialists. But now they’ve scored because it looks like the supposed party of imperial intransigence is, under the guidance of Hillary Clinton, poised to take the reins from a Trump-addled GOP.

And if a recent article in Der Spiegel is right, Kagan’s wife Victoria has emerged as a candidate for the prized position of secretary of state should Hillary win. If that comes to pass, the Neocons may not have succeeded in their initial plan for a new American century, but they will have hastily completed their last-minute project for a new Democratic Party. And that means this election isn’t that Neo-confusing after all.

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TahoeBilly2012's picture

So the Jew Agenda is in trouble? They will do something to get back on track, trust me.

So Close's picture

Your master is whoever will feed you.

WTFUD's picture

In the case of your common garden slave . . . feed you . . Bullshit.

Aristotle of Greece's picture
Aristotle of Greece (not verified) WTFUD Aug 7, 2016 7:04 PM

The ONLY THING both parties (whores) are good at is setting the Middle East on fire. http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-2g9

TheRedScourge's picture

Trump is far from perfect, but he is possibly the most anti-establishment candidate in history. If you hate the status quo and believe in voting, you should probably vote for him.

Then when he fails to get results, you can join us non-voters who do not believe in government solutions to any problem.

Anti-Establishment Candidate Checklist:

- Obama is against Trump ... Check

- The media are against Trump ... Check

- The establishment Democrats are against Trump ... Check

- The establishment Republicans are against Trump ... Check

- The Pope is against Trump ... Check

- The UN is against Trump ... Check

- The new EU is against Trump ... Check

- China is against Trump ... Check

- Mexico is against Trump ... Check

- Soros is against Trump ... Check

- "Black Lives Matter" is against Trump ... Check

- "MoveOn" is against Trump ... Check

- Koch Brothers are against Trump ... Check

- Bushes are against Trump ... Check

- Hillary & Bernie are both against Trump ... Check

- Illegal aliens are against Trump ... Check

- Islam is against Trump ... Check

- Kasich is against Trump ... Check

- Hateful, racist, violent Liberals are against Trump ... Check


- He's not a Lifetime Politician ... Check

- He's not a Lawyer ... Check

- He's not doing it for the money ... Check


- Whoopi said she will leave the country ... Check

- Rosie said she will leave the country ... Check

- Sharpton said he will leave the country ... Check

- Cher said she will leave the country ... Check

- Cyrus said she will leave the country ... Check

LN's picture

You've got to love the picture of the Hildabeast and the Shrub together for the article.  It's so natural, almost surreal.


willwork4food's picture

I've heard rumors of Hillary, Bill and Satan  together at a dinner party. Might not be true but it all fits.


jeff montanye's picture

the part that doesn't fit is the conclusion of the article above, that the goal of the neocons and neolibs is to get a cold war started.  that would be, if anything, a means to an end.

the end is always the greater power of greater israel and not one fucking thing else.

wildbad's picture

in joe pluumer's MOST EXCELLENT book "Tragedy and Hope 101" he outlines Carroll Quigleys tome of near the same name. In one page he condenses the pre-chewed choices presented and solt to a gullible public who wants decisions made for the,.

Trump was not on that list.

Thus he isn't down with the "Network's" agenda.  He is not in the club.

He is my man in November.

JRobby's picture

The 2 parties exist to get one or the other of their owned candidates elected. I don't see why this is so elusive?

It is THEY that need to be nuetralized. Yes, there is the entire congress to deal with as well. Why do people think this is easy?

poeg's picture

Satan makes the lemon face every time the Hillary does a lipstand. Some shit you just can't swallow.

Barney Fife's picture

Damn you are gullible. 

Do you really believe ALL of that just because people said it on television? 

jeff montanye's picture

the (zionist controlled) republican and democratic establishments and the (zionist controlled) media are against trump.

but you already knew that, sayan.

cheka's picture

love watching the repug puppets being forced to suicide themselves at the feet of trump

the only reason they would do this is because they are FORCED TO by their handlers

absent their bosses cucking them, for self preservation and promotion, they would support trump or stfu.  but those options are not available

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) TheRedScourge Aug 7, 2016 10:41 PM

they are getting ready to pull the plug on HILLARY now and insert Biden.

Right after the wikileaks release, for health reasons.

I said when I looked at her chart last March she won't be president and I doubt if she will even be the nominee.

They are allowing this type of photo to escape.


She had a big black guy who is always next to her as seen in the photo.

Also looks like Jeb! on the left ...lol

WTFUD's picture

I just hope Trump is very Gallant when he mops the floor with her. My local bookie is offering odds on her fainting during the first debate but the odds are too skinny.

wildbad's picture

i've heard her braying voice a cuppla times lately giving speeches.  she sucks , of course, but her voice is that of someon in the latter stages of throat cancer.


Victor von Doom's picture

So....does that mean if they do pull the plug on America's favourite/most despised Wonder Woman, then the field would be left to Trump?

My thought is that is exactly when they'd JFK him.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the SCOTUS promised to move to New Zealand, if Trump wins... Check.

A person from the Czech Republic, is a... 'Czech'?  Check.

JRobby's picture

But you retain US Citizenship? You have some other alternative planned to fight for the Republic? Let us know.

poeg's picture

So only the farmers should vote.

Victor von Doom's picture

Your master is whoever can stop the food from coming.

InsaneBane's picture

No it rises if you read Oded Yinon's plan...but be aware of the Samson option.

We should get rid of the money lender!

TahoeBilly2012's picture

Yes, sending the mid east back to the "stone age" so the world's capital can once again be Jerusalem. They seem to have the curtains picked out already.

InsaneBane's picture

Turkey is the Trojan horse...not only the mid east.
Also Europe using the Turks as a vessle and the Coudenhove-Kalergi doctrine.

Putin must be aware of the Great Dictator.

DownWithYogaPants's picture

Mooslim bad?  Yes.  Obviously so.

There are how many religions in the world?  How many would I ban importing to the USA?  ONE.  

Guess which one?

So you have your simple minded diversity for diversity's sake and I can still have a peaceful country.  Just a little compromise on the globalists part.............

..........oh I forgot.  What the globalists want the globalists get.

Dormouse's picture

Talmudic Khazarian Luciferians?

InsaneBane's picture

ruled over by Isis Horus Seth

their base is Isis Ra El..mount Zion is their goal, thus Zionism.

Theodor Herzl

jeff montanye's picture

it isn't even really all of zionism.  it's mostly the absolutely insatiable version of the settler likud party.  but like jeff gates says in his book guilt by association, the "better" zionists are guilty by association with the really bad ones just as the u.s. is seen by much of the world as a rogue state for its blind support of israel's horrible crimes.

LN's picture

That's what I thought too.  "Either way, the message is “Muslims bad.”"  And the failed logic here is WHAT, exactly?


samsara's picture

I think if anybody has a bead on who the dictator of Turkey really is it would be Putin.

jeff montanye's picture

yes.  he shot down his own plane and helicopter and traded for isis oil so as to undermine his ally assad.

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

But how if Putin let Erdogan shoot down two old planes and thus prove his bona fides to Langley for 5 or 6 months during which time Erdogan was privy to  tactics, strategies and  time frames and the areas and countries of importance for the America's Plan To Rule The World.



True Blue's picture

+10 for 'Turkey is a Trojan horse.'

 (Troy was in Turkey.)

InsaneBane's picture

Don't forget Venezuela:

Samson option, JFK letter to Ben Gurion regarding the nuclear facility Dimona:

They thanked us with the USS Liberty, By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt do War

junction's picture

Hillary seems to be self-destructing, the wheels are falling off her clown car, whatever the Nazi Neocons say.


WTFUD's picture

I had my suspicions that when she walked across the stage at the DNC to embrace Obama that she'd just shit in her pantsuit . . my bad . .

nmewn's picture

"Critics don’t like Trump’s comfort with a “dictator” who..."

Its all really quite amusing isn't it?

Obama follows "the law" as he perceives the political winds blow, whether it's individual rights (that would be him intertwining due process & gun rights with .gov Watch Lists...for all you playing along at home...lol) or whether it's FORCING YOU to buy outrageously priced insurance (or face a state fine/tax/penalty MANDATED BY .gov) or simple border enforcement (or the lack thereof) or Hillary collecting guns & ammo on the streets of Benghazi for "resale" in Syria while waves of "immigrants" flood into Europe or passing around classified information via email like some giggling school girl on crack but Putin is the real problem here.

Cuz...Snowden...or sumpin ;-)

LN's picture

""Critics don’t like Trump’s comfort with a “dictator” who..."", or perhaps just a real man in one insane world.  Yes it is amusing, in its own sick and perverted way.


nmewn's picture

Yeah, I guess thats the thing though isn't it? There's a lot of certifiably insane people running around trying to interpret someones words as to what is meant by the words even if that interpretation is not what was said at all.

For instance, Trump makes a comment about Putin being "a strong leader" and "bright & talented".

Now I don't know how the criminally insane people of the .gov media complex (or the Ignorati of the world) can hear/interpret that as anything other than what he said because, well, obviously I'm not insane...at least I don't think so and it's a judgement call on someone elses part anyways...lol...BUT...

...he didn't say a good leader or a bad leader.

And he was comparing Hillary & Obama to Putin with both of them coming up well short in the brilliance & strong leadership categories...in his estimation.

However still, no judgement was offered by him as to Putin being good or bad and in the context of the dialogue as the statements occurred (that is to say, .gov journalists freaking out about other journalists being snuffed out) they (the .gov journalists) took it as praise for Putin while, that may have been the complete opposite of what he actually meant, as being the faux journalists they are, they didn't deem it important enough to the public to ask what he actually meant.

He said, bright & talented and a strong leader. He didn't say good or evil.

And he also said, "You know Joe, we kill a lot of people too." which, to the .gov's press corps ears, was like pouring gasoline on them & setting them on fire for their crimes of journalistic malpractice...and this...they simply would not tolerate.

Me thinks they do protest too much ;-)

LN's picture

Well, I'm hardly anyone to consult on such matters, but...

..."because, well, obviously I'm not insane...at least I don't think so and it's a judgement call on someone elses part anyways...lol...BUT..." 

How are you sure?  You seem sane to me, but I'm known to be insane, so what's that worth?

"(that is to say, .gov journalists freaking out about other journalists being snuffed out)

This is the odd part, with the trail of bodies we seem to have with the Hildabeast & Co. how were they able to make this leap, and miss the other?

"And he also said, "You know Joe, we kill a lot of people too." which, to the .gov's press corps ears, was like pouring gasoline on them & setting them on fire for their crimes of journalistic malpractice...and this...they simply would not tolerate."

The money quote, you never disappoint Nmewn.  Keep it coming, it keeps people honest.



LN's picture

Thanks for the link.  I really have no words for people that will vote for this.

Just my insanity, I guess.


Cabreado's picture

"So the Jew Agenda is in trouble?"

It would be best to be agnostic in this regard, and rather consider the Control agenda.
You're just making it easier for them...

Themesamen's picture

Please stop the anti-semetic stuff.   Frankly the Kahns (Cons) should want to support stopping immigration from countries who have have problems with muslims who are terrorists that want to kill not only Jews, but Christians and other muslims.  If I were a muslim in the USA escaping muslim terrorists, I would want to keep them from coming here too.   Unless of course I were one of them. 

bigkahuna's picture

Sometimes people forget that there are differences between Jews. The zionists are the ones that need to be hooked up and drug down the street. Regular Jewish people are the same as anyone else - but they many times get lumped in with the zionist, and that is wrong. That would be like lumping a normal white guy in with the kkk, normal hispanic with la raza, and normal black guy with the panthers.

We all lose when someone throws normal people into extreme categories. I do not want people of other backgrounds automatically thinking I am part of some racial extremist group. I will not allow myself to believe that people of other backgrounds are automatically racial extremists either.