After Turkey Warns West May "Lose" The Country, NATO "Reminds" Ankara It Is Still An Alliance Member

Tyler Durden's picture

Less than a day after Turkey's surprising pivot toward Russia, when in his first post-coup trip abroad Turkey president Erdogan flew not to a western, or NATO, ally but instead jaunted over the Russia to fix and cement future ties, including among other a resumption of work on the mothballed Turkish Stream gas pipeline, NATO appears to have gotten rather defensive, and in what some commentators dubbed an "odd move", reminded Turkey that it is still an ally member.

From NATO's secretary general:

In view of speculative press reports regarding NATO's stance regarding the failed coup in Turkey and Turkey’s NATO membership, let me stress NATO's very clear position.



Turkey is a valued Ally, making substantial contributions to NATO's joint efforts.  Turkey takes full part in the Alliance’s consensus-based decisions as we confront the biggest security challenges in a generation. Turkey’s NATO membership is not in question. Our Alliance is committed to collective defence and founded on the principles of democracy, individual liberty, human rights and the rule of law. NATO counts on the continued contributions of Turkey and Turkey can count on the solidarity and support of NATO.


The NATO Secretary General  spoke to the Turkish Foreign Minister on the night of the attempted coup and later with President Erdogan, strongly condemning the attempted coup and reiterating full support for Turkey’s democratic institutions. He expressed support for the elected government of Turkey and respect for the courage of the Turkish people. He also conveyed his condolences for those who had lost their lives during the coup attempt.

While we don't doubt that Turkey - and Putin - are well aware of NATO's stance on Turkey, which allegedly hosts over 50 US nuclear bombs at Incirlik and thus is an indispensable member of the alliance, and one with megatons of leverage, Turkey pressed on today with its recent "anti-western" agenda, when it said earlier today that the European Union was making grave mistakes in its response to Turkey's failed coup and was losing support for EU membership from Turks as a result.

As Reuters notes, Ankara has argued that the United States and Europe have shown undue concern over a crackdown following the abortive July 15 coup but indifference to the putsch itself.

"Unfortunately the EU is making some serious mistakes. They have failed the test following the coup attempt," foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in an interview with state-run Anadolu Agency. "Support for EU membership used to be around 50 percent of the population, I assume it is around 20 percent now."

Surely that will come as good news to Merkel who has been pressured by Turkey to accelerate the country's accession into Europe as part of the refugee deal struck in March, and which Erdogan has threatened to abandon unless Turkey gets a visa-waiver for travel into the customs union. 

Meanwhile, as reported yesterday, Erdogan on Tuesday took a big step toward normalizing relations with Russia, meeting President Vladimir Putin in a visit to St Petersburg, his first foreign trip since the failed putsch. The visit was closely watched in the West, where some fear that both men, powerful leaders critics say are ill-disposed to dissent, might use their rapprochement to exert pressure on Washington and the European Union and stir tensions within NATO, the military alliance of which Turkey is a member.

The visit also explains NATO's urgency to preempt any potential "concern" by Turkey that it may have to retaliate. Cavusoglu said Turkey's rapprochement with Russia was not intended to unsettle Europe or the United States. However, he also warned the West against the possibility of one day "losing" Turkey.

"We are not amending our relations with Russia to send a message to the West," he told Anadolu. "If the West loses Turkey one day, it will not be because of Turkey's relations with Russia, China, or the Islamic world, but rather because of themselves." The warning has been duly noted, much to Putin's delight.

Meanwhile the Russian president said Tuesday said Moscow would gradually phase out sanctions against Ankara, imposed after the Turks shot down a Russian fighter jet near the Syrian border nine months ago, and that bringing ties to their pre-crisis level was the priority. Cavusoglu also indicated that Turkey could find common ground with Russia on Syria, where they have been on opposing sides of the conflict. Moscow backs Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, while Turkey says Assad is a dictator who must be removed.

"We think similarly regarding the ceasefire, humanitarian aid and (the need for) political resolution in Syria. We may think differently on how to implement the ceasefire," he said. He also said that Turkey was building a "strong mechanism" with Russia to find a solution in Syria, and a delegation including the foreign ministry, military and intelligence officials will go to Russia on Wednesday for talks.

And so, having tentatively roped in Turkey into Russia's growing sphere of influence, yesterday Putin made an unexpected beeline for Europe's latest casualty: the UK itself. As the Telegraph reports, Putin and the UK's new PM Theresa May, spoke for the first time since she took office and both expressed dissatisfaction with the current state of Russian-British relations.

The announcement by the Kremlin could herald the start of improved relations between the two countries that have been strained since the 2006 poisoning death of former spy Alexander Litvinenko and the Ukraine crisis, among other issues.

In the phone call, which Moscow said was initiated by Britain, both leaders "expressed dissatisfaction with the current parameters of cooperation in both the political and economic sphere".


The Kremlin said Mr Putin and Mrs May agreed to develop a dialogue between security agencies on issues related to aviation security, and made plans for a face-to-face meeting in the "near future".


The statement noted that Mrs May confirmed Britain's intention to participate in ceremonies marking the 75th anniversary of the arrival of the first British Second World War convoy in the Russian city Arkhangelsk this month.


A Downing Street spokesman confirmed that Mrs May spoke on the phone with the Russian president. 


"The Prime Minister noted the importance of the relationship between the UK and Russia and expressed the hope that, despite differences on certain issues, they could communicate in an open and honest way about the issues that mattered most to them," the spokesman said.


"The Prime Minister and president agreed that British and Russian citizens faced common threats from terrorism, and that co-operation on aviation security in particular was a vital part of the international counter-terrorism effort."

The pair will meet at the G20 summit of world leaders in China next month.

It would appear that contrary to Obama's infamous summary, Russia is no longer quite as "isolated" as the West believes...

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Looney's picture


Erdogan’s LOUD demands to extradite Gulen are a ruse.

If he really wanted that to happen, he would’ve quietly done so with a single call to 0bama.

Now, with all this publicity, our Doofus-in-Chief can’t do anything - if Gulen is sent to Turkey, he will be hung at the Ataturk airport, as soon as he arrives.

Erdogan doesn’t need the 76-y.o. cleric – he needs an excuse to freeze his NATO/US/EU relationships and see how well his shift towards Russia plays out. I think?   ;-)


Looney's picture

Oh, and speaking of the mothballed Turkish Stream gas pipeline

Erdogan is trying to use both the West and Russia as leverage against each other, but Putin is taking LEVERAGE to a whole new level!

Turkey wants the Turkish Stream ASAP – it’s not just the gas, it’s the power over the EU which comes with it.

Now, all of a sudden, Bulgaria wants to resuscitate the South Stream and is willing to pay hundreds of millions in penalties for succumbing to McCain’s pressure and halting it.

Putin, right before the meeting with Erdogan, spoke to Bulgaria’s PM, Boyko Borisov, and demanded “reinforced concrete guarantees” from Bulgaria and the EU, before Russia returns to the South Stream.


Just a refresher…

Both projects are essentially the same pipeline going from Crimea, through the Black Sea westwards, almost to the Bosphorus.

At the very end, the right turn (North) takes the pipeline to Bulgaria (Burgas) and it becomes the South Stream. The left turn (South) takes the pipeline to Turkey and makes it the Turkish Stream.

Vlad doesn’t make it a secret - during his and Erdogan’s press conference, he announced that both pipelines will be built, when all details are worked out.

It will be fun to watch both Erdogan and the EU trying to out-kiss Vlad’s ass to get his gas FIRST.  ;-)


samjam7's picture

Why is it surprising? I have been saying from the beginning this was a failed US coup attempt and Erdogan drew his conclusions from it. The consequences are now unfolding. But of course following the MSM conspiracy narrative that Erdogan staged the coup himself creates more clicks, also Tyler took that bait.

gmrpeabody's picture

Unless the coup was of Erdogans own doing, which it seems it was.

He staged it to be able to make his move TOWARD Russia and because he wants to be one of, if not THE, Mooslim world power...

beemasters's picture

It's now rather clear it wasn't his doing.

Now that EU has come crawling back to Erdogan, look forward to Erdogan meeting with Bashar al-Assad next.

gmrpeabody's picture

"It's now rather clear it wasn't his doing."

By all means, fill us in...

FGH's picture

Turkey also made the mistake (in hindsight) of allying with Germany in both world wars.

JamesBond's picture

He's a thug, but he is our thug.  Until he isn't.  And now everyone and everything at the airbase is under threat. How many times does this shit have to happen before the dumb fucks at State learn their fucking lesson?   I guess if the ultimate plan is to blow the middle east off the face of the planet, it's a 'check' move on the board...  but WTF.  



HowdyDoody's picture

"He's a thug, but he is our thug.  Until he isn't."

Just like Hussein. The US was perfectly happy with his use of chemical weapons until he stepped over the mark. Then it was used as a PR weapon against him.

HopefulCynic's picture

Hussein took the bait with Kuwait, he was told in no direct terms to go ahead. 

ZHrnh's picture

WWI Turkey had little choice insofar as one of the principle causes of the war was the anticipated carving up of the country by France and England (vide Sykes-Picot). Not to mention the Zionists.

WWII Turkey was neutral until several months before the end of the war, at which point it joined the Allies.

the phantom's picture

Never trust the Turks.  Putin may be moving forward with South Stream... but you can't trust the EU as the US pulls the strings.  If one flops, switch off the gas and move to the other side of the spectrum... all-the-while making sure Syria never allows Nabucco. And Russian gas keeps flowing.  Checkmate.

conscious being's picture

phantom, Nabucco was to run from the Caspian Sea, via Turkey to Europe. Nothing to do with Syria. Syria and Iraq territory, block Saudi and other GCCs planned pipeline access to Europe but that's not Nabucco.

the phantom's picture

You are half-right... there were 2 proposed pipelines of nabucco, the one which you state and another.

HopefulCynic's picture

+1 for the not trusting teh EU, but really how would the EU shut off the gas? More LNG from Qatar?

Galahad Threepwood's picture

Never trust the Turks.  

Can anyone trust the US?

Can anyone trust the British?

the phantom's picture

Those are rhetorical questions.

wildbad's picture

..if they have to be reminded that's pretty shaky sand upon which to build a world domination strategy.

walküre's picture

Erdogan will meet Assad only to discuss Assad's plans for exile in Iran. Right after Erdogan declares check mate on Assad and gives Assad the benefit of declaring his own defeat.

walküre's picture

Agreed 100%. The "failed coup" was a PR move by Erdogan to get 100% control of the media, the parliament, the opinion, the sentiment and so on. Straight from Hitler's playbook.

To insist this was a foreign led or Turkish opposition led "failed coup" is akin to subscribing to the official 9/11 narrative.

Erdogan's next move will be the invasion and "liberation" of Syria. The real reason why he was visiting Putin was to seek approval for this invasion.

Erdogan's Turkey doesn't care for the EU or NATO. Their aspirations are the creation of a grand Turkish empire!

HopefulCynic's picture

Nonsense, if it were true Erdogan would never hint anything like that to Putin, unless he wants to stage a failed invasion as well. 

beemasters's picture

"To insist this was a foreign led or Turkish opposition led "failed coup" is akin to subscribing to the official 9/11 narrative."

I think you've got it all backward. :) Always question the "official story" the MSM is peddling. When they are suggesting Erdogan was behind the coup, it's usually the CIA. Besides, if Erdogan faked it, it would have been much easier for Turkey to blame Russia instead of the US. Notice too that the MSM's attack that Erdogan was behind the coup happened shortly after Turkey blamed the US.

There are other strong clues the MSM narrative is falling apart, if only you care to look/think/read between the lines. Please keep up. :)

Gazooks's picture

Just when he thought he was out...

..they pull him back in

small towel's picture

Well observed.  Lets hope it was just sloppiness.

Has ZH covered the story of the CBS tweet yet, 

The one in which CBS were caught red-handed suggesting Erdogan hed fled the country, citing a Senior Military source?

wildbad's picture

right on samjam, CIA / Gulen all the way.  doesn't mean erdogan isn't the devil in a blue dress too but definitely another in a long list of failed CIA coups.

we came we saw we fucked up again...

erdogan had been playing too fast and loose for too long banking on his NATO membership as a get out of jail free card.  too bad he didn't do anything directly against the DNC , or the clinton crime family, he'd be pushing up daisies as we scribble

walküre's picture

Dummkopf. The CIA would have succeeded had it been their coup attempt. They NEVER fail!

Jack Oliver's picture

They are failing in Syria - exposure by Russia has already brought Turkey to it's knees !

walküre's picture

You mean the US actually wanted regime change in Syria? No way. They would have pulled another Lybia and be done with it. Obama and Hillary (then Sec. of State) got cold feet after Lybia disintegrated and kicked off the massive flood of migrants. Syria's problems are IS related which is not a production of CIA. Not this time. CIA created Mujahedin to fight Soviets in Afghani, which evolved into Taliban and trained AQ. Funding from Wahabi Saudis. Even so the CIA playbook suggests that IS could have been of their making, this one doesn't add up.

BarkingCat's picture

is that why the US and UK had been delivering weapons, ammunition and other supplies to them with those "oops wrong place" air deliveries?

Galahad Threepwood's picture

Obama and Hillary (then Sec. of State) got cold feet after Lybia disintegrated and kicked off the massive flood of migrants. 


Of maybe the wave of migrants was all part of the plan.

"When it comes to the NWO, never attribute to stupidity what can be blamed on malice"  Galahad Threepwood 

BlindMonkey's picture



"Turkey’s NATO membership is not in question."


If you have to say it, it isn't true.

walküre's picture

Will you keep insisting this when Turkey says they're leaving NATO? They're already saying they will no longer pursue EU membership.

NATO is crapping its pants because of Turkey's ambitions. If NATO was a force to be reckoned with, they would have pulled out of Turkey yesterday.

Has the power been reconnected to Incirlik? Are German members of parliament allowed to visit German troops in Turkey?

Double Negative

researchfix's picture

What should Turkey, or any other sane country, do in EU? Pay for Poland and the Baltics for barking at Russia?

By now they should realise that decades of negotiating only had the goal of preventing them to look for other partners. Some truth at last in "fuck the EU"


HopefulCynic's picture

They have failed many times. CUBA many many times, Venezuela MANY MANY times. The people CIA is not that good, you clearly have the menttality of exceptionalism. 

Bubba Rum Das's picture

CIA never fail?
Yeah they do, every now & then...
You have to remember, they were working with the Obama administration; that explains most of it I'm sure...

Fred123's picture

Doubtful. 0bama is Erdogan's buddy and a fellow muslim with the same goals. Erdogan knows that for him to attain a power status in the ME he needs to LEAVE NATO. The West doesn't need a mussie member and should be doing everything it can to get rid of them. Putin will use Erdogan for his own ends. I can only hope that in the future Turkey and Iran get into a brawl, in fact, it should be encouraged. It's best to have mussie against mussie for peace and stability in the civilized world.

HopefulCynic's picture

Sadly because of my bias towards Erdogan and watching him stage other stuff (like the guy on the bridge and hero erdogan talking him down), I also took the bait. 

Regarding Tyler I can not say, i respect him but lately ther is to much smell of gatestone and otehr Khazar nonsense on ZH. I suppose, hope and expect Tyler to present all sides of the story and that is why is doing it. 

gmrpeabody's picture

Anyone know if we still have nukes in place there..?

HopefulCynic's picture

No WE of Mexico do not have any nukes there and i am sure that there are many people here from different countries that would say the same thing, probably the majority of readers. Typical Exceptional mentality, everything is about WE the Exceptional US. 

gmrpeabody's picture

Well, I guess compared to you, at least.., we are exceptional.

Nobody's hopping the fence to get INTO your country.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Throw in Russia's $500 Billion dollar gas pipeline deal with China and, Viola. Demise of the US petroleum dollar status.

Bubba Rum Das's picture

There's more to it than that, and it's been going on for a while now-
a good deal of the coal exports from MT & WY to China have been superceeded by Russian coal contracts which are waaaaay underselling ours.

Not only that, it goes rail direct, no oceanic trans-shipping.

researchfix's picture

That´s the Eurasian freedom of navigation on rails.

Anarchy 99's picture

had to login just to say:  BRILLIANT!!!!!

HowdyDoody's picture

"Turkey wants the Turkish Stream ASAP – it’s not just the gas, it’s the power over the EU which comes with it."

The power is not that significant. North Stream exists and as being doubled in capacity. There will be no single choke point between Russia and the EU that can blackmail both.

Turkey wants protection fast. Following the coup, Erdogan must have seen that he was being set up as the fallguy for ISIS. ISIS is on its way out in Syria, it is only a matter of time, so its long term usefulness to the US is not that high. The US have changed tack to trying to create 'safe havens' for various groups. So what better way to deal with two problems by making Erdogan the sole fallguy for ISIS (in PR terms) Erdogan goes, Gulen setup in place, Gulen keeps Turkey pro-US, Erdogan links to ISIS exposed, ISIS is moved to Libya to take on Algeria, US hands washed clean over ISIS in Syria.

HopefulCynic's picture

Erdogan does not need to be set up, he already has ties with ISIS.