Paul Craig Roberts Warns: US Is "A Dead Nation Walking"

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Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,

Here is an excerpt from an informative article by Dmitry Orlov:

A whiff of World War III hangs in the air. In the US, Cold War 2.0 is on, and the anti-Russian rhetoric emanating from the Clinton campaign, echoed by the mass media, hearkens back to McCarthyism and the red scare. In response, many people are starting to think that Armageddon might be nigh—an all-out nuclear exchange, followed by nuclear winter and human extinction. It seems that many people in the US like to think that way. Goodness gracious!

 

But, you know, this is hardly unreasonable of them. The US is spiraling down into financial, economic and political collapse, losing its standing in the world and turning into a continent-sized ghetto full of drug abuse, violence and decaying infrastructure, its population vice-ridden, poisoned with genetically modified food, morbidly obese, exploited by predatory police departments and city halls, plus a wide assortment of rackets, from medicine to education to real estate… That we know.

 

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This sort of downward spiral does not automatically spell “Apocalypse,” but the specifics of the state cult of the US—an old-time religiosity overlaid with the secular religion of progress—are such that there can be no other options: either we are on our way up to build colonies on Mars, or we perish in a ball of flame. Since the humiliation of having to ask the Russians for permission to fly the Soyuz to the International Space Station makes the prospect of American space colonies seem dubious, it’s Plan B: balls of flame here we come!

 

And so, most of the recent American warmongering toward Russia can be explained by the desire to find anyone but oneself to blame for one’s unfolding demise.

I use the writings of Orlov and The Saker as checks on my own conclusions.

In his article Orlov concludes that the United States is a dead nation, still walking, but no longer a uni-power. I agree with Orlov that US weapon systems are more focused on profits than on effectiveness and that Russia has superior weapons and a superior cause based on protection rather than dominance. However, in his assessment of the possibility of nuclear war, I think that Orlov under-appreciates the commitment of Washington’s Neoconservatives to US world hegemony and the recklessness of the Neoconservatives and Hillary Clinton. Washington is incensed that Russia (and China) dare to stand up to Washington, and this anger crowds out judgment.

Orlov, also, I think, under-estimates the weakness in the Russian government provided by the “Atlanticist Integrationists.” These are members of the Russian elite who believe that Russia’s future depends on being integrated with the West. To achieve this integration, they are willing to sacrifice some undetermined amount of Russian sovereignty.

It is my conclusion that Washington is aware of the constraint that the desire for Western acceptance puts on the Russian government and that this is why Washington, in a direct thrust at Russia, was comfortable orchestrating the coup that overthrew the elected Ukrainian government. I believe that this constraint also explains the mistakes the Russian government made by refusing the requests of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics to be reincorporated as parts of Russia, where the territories formerly resided, and by the premature withdrawal from Syria that allowed Washington to resupply the jihadists and to insert US forces into the conflict, thus complicating the situation for Russia and Syria.

Orlov sees Russian advantage in the ongoing conflict between Kiev and the breakaway republics as the conflict could be leading to the collapse of the US puppet government in Kiev. However, the disadvantage is that the ongoing conflict is blamed on Russia and feeds Western anti-Russian propaganda. It also makes Russia look weak and unsure of itself as if the Western criticism of Russia’s reincorporation of Crimea has struck home and Russia is afraid to repeat it by accepting the pleas of the break-away republics.

Moreover, if the Russian government had accepted the requests of Donetsk and Luhansk to return to Russia from which they were artificailly separated, not only would the conflict have been ended, but also the Ukrainian people would have realized the disaster caused by Washington’s coup against their government, and Europe would have realized from decisive Russian action that it was not in Europe’s interest to provoke Russia in behalf of Washington. The correct Russian response was prevented by the Atlanticist Integrationist desire to appease Washington.

In contrast to Orlov, The Saker underestimates Russian military strength, but he does understand the constraints placed on Russian decisiveness by the Atlanticist Integrationists, who seem to count in their ranks the economic establishment including the central bank and perhaps the prime minister himself. Putin does not seem to be overly concerned with what appears to me to be a fifth column of Washington’s agents as Putin himself has placed heavy bets on achieving accommodation with the West. However, Putin has cracked down on the US-financed NGOs that have tried to destabilize Russia.

Western reporting and think tank and university reports on Russia are propaganda and are useless to understanding the situation. For example, in the current issue of The National Interest Thomas Graham, who had the Russian desk on the National Security Council during the George W. Bush regime, attributes the “destabilization of eastern Ukraine” to “Russia’s annexation of Crimea.” He avoids mentioning the US-orchestrated overthrow of an elected Ukrainian government and that Crimea voted overwhelmingly (97 percent) to rejoin Russia when faced with the Russophobic government Washington established in Kiev.

According to Graham, the foul deed of Russia’s acceptance of a democratic outcome upset all of Washington’s very friendly, supportive, and hopeful attitudes toward Russia. With all of Washington’s “assumptions that had guided America’s Russia policy” irreversibly dashed, it is no longer possible to maintain that Russia “is a suitable partner for addressing global issues.” Graham goes on to define Russia as a problem because Russia favors a multi-polar world to a uni-polar world run by Washington.

It is possible to read Graham’s repeat of the propaganda line as Graham genuflecting before the Neoconservatives before going on quietly in a low-key manner to attack their hegemonic attitude toward Russia. In his concluding paragraph Graham says that Washington must find a new approach to Russia, an approach of balance and limits that rejects “resort to force, which would be devastating given the destructive power of modern weaponry.”

All in all, it is an artful argument that begins by blaming Russia’s response to Washington’s provocations for a dangerous situation and concludes with the argument that Washington must adjust to Russia’s defense of her own national interests.

It is reassuring to see some realism creeping back into Washington attitudes toward Russia. However, realism is still a minority view, and it is highly unlikely that it would be the view of a Hillary regime.

In my opinion, the chance of nuclear war from Neoconservative intention, miscalculation or false launch warning remains high. The provocations of US/NATO military forces and missile bases on Russia’s borders are reckless as they build tensions between nuclear powers. It is in times of tension that false warnings are believed and miscalculations occur. In the interest of life on earth, Washington should be de-escalating tensions with Russia, not building them. So far there is no sign that the Neoconservatives are willing to give up their hegemonic agenda for the sake of life on earth.

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Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Got that right PCR!

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Even here, there are many on Dopium and Hopium.

They need to attend a Fight Club therapy session, not a group hug.

VWAndy's picture

 You fight the fights you must. That dont mean you cant level the field first. The stall could do that very thing well?

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bleu (not verified) VWAndy Aug 27, 2016 9:46 PM

The truth about the conflict with Russia NO ONE dares to reveal. https://goo.gl/nKJndT

bamawatson's picture

my 65 year old buddy zero says he woke up at 12 when he saw the charade of jfk murder. He says U.S. has been taking it straight up the ungreezed ass ever since. We tested HIV positive during Clintonia. Now we are Full Blown Final Stage open sore festering puss oozing skanks

Ignatius's picture

PCR interviewed by John B. Wells:  (begins @14:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFGE77h3QB4

PCR lays it all out in detail and it's not pretty.

sonoftx's picture

Mr. Ingratius, thank you for the link. That is an awesome summary.

The other night I questioned PCR on his sincerity. As soon as I wrote it I doubted myself and stayed up until about 0300 (it is almost that now) watching PCR on YouTube. He is real. I should not have doubted.

I said in my post that there was a change in his verbiage and that he was now appealing to the lowest common denominator. But, I think he is just pissed. I think he sees what is coming. In earlier times he could think"They will never do it, they will wise up". But now, he sees that there is no let up. As another poster said, they will not stop.

I hope I got a lot of down votes the other night. I deserve them.

I will say that this was the best interview I have seen with PCR. Mostly because the host was not trying to prove his knowledge and just allowed him to speak. I am going to send it to my family and beg them to listen to it.

Thank you Mr Ignatius.

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X_in_Sweden (not verified) sonoftx Aug 28, 2016 4:40 AM

I don't know who you are or your background & life experience sonoftx.

Just wanna say ....

I'm glad to hear you've understood PCR is legit; he's one of the very few who passes the litmus test.

Most of PCR's conclusions also pass the test-of-time.

 

I personally believe PCR's "wrong" concerning Russian weakness:

"It is my conclusion that Washington is aware of the constraint that the desire for Western acceptance puts on the Russian government and that this is why Washington, in a direct thrust at Russia, was comfortable orchestrating the coup that overthrew the elected Ukrainian government. I believe that this constraint also explains the mistakes the Russian government made by refusing the requests of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics to be reincorporated as parts of Russia, where the territories formerly resided, and by the premature withdrawal from Syria that allowed Washington to resupply the jihadists and to insert US forces into the conflict, thus complicating the situation for Russia and Syria. "

 

The Russian strategists are at least 2 moves ahead of the US/NWO/Neokahns.

Their strategy is very advanced.

When it comes to "Ukraine" and even the Usa....the complete disintegration & collapse is very near; just wait until they fall apart is in my opinion, smart.

As for the paid-to-play jihaddis in Syria, they are killin' each other now adays real well. The new american *SDF* are gettin' their ass kicked after spending most of the year capturing Manbij : * https://twitter.com/Conflicts *

&

Rest assured, if the american Aegis Missile Systems in Romania & Poland are covertly armed to offensive capacity, they will be taken out IMMEDIATELY; before the techicians set up the last coordinates & hardware!

It's an excellent strategy; watch your enemies self-imolate.

Then you go in for the kill.

:)

No Worries. No Hurries.

;)

crazzziecanuck's picture

The one area I disagree with PCR is this idea that Russia should have immediately accepted the assession of DPR and LPR.  But if you think it through, what would be the result?

NATO in Ukraine.  Immediately.  Which is exactly what Moscow doesn't want.  By keeping DPR and LPR inside Ukraine, they have a sizeable and populous group inside Ukraine to begin to at least the counter Western patsies and NGO front groups in Kiev.

Not only that, but it would cause future problems for the Russian Federation.  If the Ukraine is divisible, then so is Russia.  If DPR and LPR were divided like NATO did to Serbia, then it would just reaffirm previous NATO crimes as NATO would now be able to blame Russia and allow Western propagandists to suddenly redeclare "Year Zero" on the issue of when nation states began to fail.  Crimea was an exceptional case, let's not forget.

I believe Moscow's paramount concern is to keep NATO out of Ukraine.  

peddling-fiction's picture

+1 X

New and improved X.

Your knife is sharper and more precise.

Ignatius's picture

Here's PCR with James Corbett on the 10th anniversary of 9/11:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBOMSj0uNmw&annotation_id=annotation_878...

A different emphasis, but the same power.

DuneCreature's picture

John B. Wells has become my hands down, far and away, all time favorite talk show interviewer.

Great link, thanks, Ignatius.

Live Hard, Ask A Few Pertinent Questions A Let Your Guest Roll Out His Ideas, Die Free

~ DC v2.0

Future Jim's picture

"there is no sign that the Neoconservatives are willing to give up their hegemonic agenda "

Fail - Obama and Hillary are not neocons, and it is progressives who control the media. All neocons are progressives, but most progressives are not neocons.

"hearkens back to McCarthyism and the red scare."

Fail - McCarthy was proven correct about communists in the US.

"Putin does not seem to be overly concerned with what appears to me to be a fifth column of Washington’s agents as Putin himself has placed heavy bets on achieving accommodation with the West. However, Putin has cracked down on the US-financed NGOs that have tried to destabilize Russia."

Fail - If Putin were not working for the same people as the Bushes, the Clintons, and Obama, then he could simply expose the many false flags perpetrated by the US, such as 9/11.

How could PCR be so wrong? It is almost as if PCR is a Psyop.

gmrpeabody's picture

Wish I could understand what you just tried to say..., it seemed important.

MasterControl's picture

You're wasting you time.  Here they think Bush is still president.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Future Jim, loaded comment. Let’s break it in 3 stages:

1)"there is no sign that the Neoconservatives are willing to give up their hegemonic agenda "

Fail - Obama and Hillary are not neocons. Not such evidence from the Clintons. Obama you would be right if Obama had not invade Syria, tried to place Putin in a economic box, and not destabilized Ukraine.

it is progressives who control the media. You’re absolutely right. Neocons/Progressives control the media

All neocons are progressives, but most progressives are not neocons. Wrong. It’s like saying communists are not capitalist. They mirror each other. They can shift sides very easily because their believes are the same.

 

2)"hearkens back to McCarthyism and the red scare."

Fail - McCarthy was proven correct about communists in the US. Wrong again, because communism is super-capitalism (MEFOBILLS).

 

"Putin does not seem to be overly concerned with what appears to me to be a fifth column of Washington’s agents as Putin himself has placed heavy bets on achieving accommodation with the West. However, Putin has cracked down on the US-financed NGOs that have tried to destabilize Russia."

The above statement is 100% correct, just go ask Stephen Cohen, the American grand master of Russia history.

 

3) If Putin were not working for the same people as the Bushes, the Clintons, and Obama, then he could simply expose the many false flags perpetrated by the US, such as 9/11.

How could PCR be so wrong? It is almost as if PCR is a Psyop. These are irrelevant.

 

 

illuminatus's picture

Future Jim, that really is the big question. Is Putin along with Jinping in bed with the one world government Zionists. Can we know at this point? Roberts doesn't think so. If you know and aren't just guessing, please let us know.

Infocat's picture

Paul Craig Roberts recognizes how insane our politics are, we are seriously risking a nuclear war. http://www.truthjustice.net/

VWAndy's picture

  They want to enslave the planet. If they cant they just might nuke the hole fucking thing. I see no good reason to think ol Putin aint in on it. He could have bitch slapped the neocons if he wanted to at any time. But he has not. The guy has known the truth about many things we have all been lied to about.

 We are all getting played from every side.

booboo's picture

Pffft...WW3

I'm stocking up on sticks and rocks for WW4, I have a custom club from Grogs Tactical and over 10000 rounds of fist caliber rocks I ordered from Klumps Stones and Stick Works

El Vaquero's picture

Troglodyte.  I'm building up a toolset for flint knapping.  Atl atls & bows and arrows > clubs.  

Here2Go's picture
Here2Go (not verified) El Vaquero Aug 27, 2016 10:03 PM

Paper beats rock... Imagine that

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Here2Go (not verified) El Vaquero Aug 27, 2016 10:05 PM

Double Post... Imagine that

Misean's picture

I'm downloading manuals and gathering materials to make trebuchet's and crossbows. As well, manuals 0n how to make cord from sinew, and how to render fats.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

If we are dropping nukes on people, I vote we start with the irsaeli house of saud and then wait a bit to see what happens. A lot of problems get solved if those two cliques get vaped.

roddy6667's picture

First, bomb Israel and Saudi Arabia, Brooklyn, NY, and Miami. Wait a week. See if there any more Neocons clamoring for war.

junction's picture

The story of EpiPen shows exactly the situation now in the United States, where the Big Lies rule.  Everyone in government knew that Mylan Specialty was overcharging for this device, originally manufactured for the Army using taxpayer funds so it shouldn't even be patented.  Until recently, not one major news source in the United States mentioned the EpiPen overcharges.  Reporters in America are all liars.  The FDA is run by criminals.  Maybe 20,000 Americans died from anaphylactic shock caused by OSCS contaminated Lovenox blood thinner in 2007 and 2008 and the FDA did nothing. 

Northern Flicker's picture

"The FDA is run by criminals."  That's just the start. The CDC is also run by the Pharmaceutical industry.  The Dept of Agriculture is run by Monsanto. The MIC and neocons control the State Dept. (that's a bad one - what PCR is referring to).  The banks and other lobbyists control congress. The CIA and FBI appear to be working for various cabals, independent of government.  The American public had their DNC candidate (Killery) chosen for them, but how many are even aware of it, or care?  Torture, rendition, the world's largest prison population, civil forfeiture, TSA, FEMA camps, incessant lying. This is the world's shining light?  If it wasn't for the 2nd Amendment, the whole population would be in lock-down by now.  

conscious being's picture

Russia on the other hand says a big NO to GMO. Bees are dying off in N.America. Where do American bee farmers get their replacements from? ... Russia.

Mr. Universe's picture

Over a year ago on vacation with a large group of family and friends I declared the USA the most corrupt nation on the Earth. I was met with aghast faces and sadly shaking heads, the poor boy has really gone off the deep end. I laid out my reasons and asked people to investigate for themselves. Today, they are believers.

surf@jm's picture

I hear a lot of talk lately of people stating they will no longer take up arms to defend this country.......At least not with its present government....

August's picture

>>>I hear a lot of talk lately of people stating they will no longer take up arms to defend this country

Absolutely agree.  I've never advocated or supported the violent overthrow of the United States Government, and am not starting now, but if someone else were advocating and supporting the same, let's just say I'm not completely certain how fast I would blow the whistle on them.

 

Bob's picture

I lost my whistle in a boating accident years ago. 

nmewn's picture

I tend to agree.

And I'll add, I think there are elements within that are already under arms (read military & police) who feel the same way.

Two things come instantly to mind that seem to point in this direction...

1) The Marine Corps Honor Guard no longer carry operable weapons at presidential inaugurations...because why? It is your honor guard is it not, Mr.President?

2) The Dallas PD stood down in providing security & traffic control for the president when he went to deliver his "memorial speech" after the sniper attack with the police chief saying "they were just too tired." 

Make of it what you will but trust & loyalty are very tenuous things.

illuminatus's picture

As far as I can tell, this country doesn't need defending.

Dame Ednas Possum's picture

And yet so many of your tax dollars (i.e. hours of your life) and those of many generations to come, fund a colossal Department of Defence (Attack).

Riddle me that one?

Note: the US needs defence from self-harm.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

As I warned you many times: the Neocons/ZioCons know no retreat or surrender.  Only a Masada-like end.

They will march on and double down remorselessly and relentlessly, in their Borg-like methods and philosphy.  Hopefully you know how we defeated the Borg.  The same way you defeat any pathogen.

HenryHall's picture

Yep,

>> So far there is no sign that the Neoconservatives are willing to give up their hegemonic agenda for the sake of life on earth.

Just about sums it up. Less than a 50% chance that there will be any human life on earth 100 years from now.

 

RafterManFMJ's picture

Good luck storming the castle, Neocons!

GRDguy's picture

That's how the Atlantis story ends, too. The sociopaths destroyed it. (Good story, whether true or myth.)

rejected's picture

Good article PCR. Your dead on about Russia wanting to be a part of the west. One can see it in their every move and statement. They are always accommodative and conciliatory. If they continue it will be their undoing. I am hoping they're just buying time but there isn't much time left. 

bigkahuna's picture

They are buying time - taking a few acions along the way - Georgia/Crimea/Ukraine/Syria - but they are waiting to see who will get elected. If we allow shill to get anointed, the next step will be a war in Syria which will bring US forces head on with Russian forces.

If DT is elected, there is a chance something can be worked out.

Shill MUST start a war and a big one, it is what the banks and MIC have been paying her for. Everyone knows this - including the Russians. It really sucks that our own people cannot seem to figure this out.

The banks need this war to cover their ass from their losses - which will be more than made up for by crony war financing. Remember the $500 screw driver? Yeah, get ready.

Trump had better win. At least we would have a chance at stopping this.

crazzziecanuck's picture

Trump was destined to fail.  But it won't be without merit because 2016 year was the year it was all exposed for those not addicted to the Kool Aid.   Two thirds of the population don't like either Hillary or Trump so what can we say about how "good" our systems are?   If the system cannot provide the best leadership the society can muster, then what's the point?  Aside from create parasitic political and journalistic classes who feed of it... but I digress.

My biggest worry is that the one following Trump will be so much more fascist assuming Hillary doesn't send the entire surface of the planet up in nuclear fire.  And that's a pretty big f**kin' 'if' right there.

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Chris Dakota (not verified) crazzziecanuck Aug 28, 2016 7:57 AM

If they don't "like" Trump it's because they are unable to face reality.

All he is doing is pointing out the truth, they think we are still some nice civilized society, we aren't.

There is no going back, more laws, more rules are coming.

most of them are smoking pot, drinking or on prescription meds to be able to keep the dream alive.

America the state of denial because the US progressed Sun is in Pisces, a nation in a trance.

Most common complaint I hear about Trump "I don't like the way he talks"

Don't speak so firmly to me, you are waking me the fuck up!

Very few people even think anymore, they just read what experts say and repeat it like parrots.

I recall when Chiron was discovered and astrologers where debating what it would rule.

They all had this "wounded healer" meme going. I was on a forum with them and I said "Chiron is not the wound, Pluto is the wound and Chiron is the path to healing this wound" dead silence, then someone said "what do you think of what she said?" .....answer "she's right."

I don't even go out in public much anymore, I shop online my husband does grocery because he likes it. I was in a mall 10 yrs ago and I almost had a panic attack because I am so perceptive and they are so sick. I went to the grocery yesterday and I realized I don't know how to shop or walk in a crowd. lol

I have the wound (Pluto) 12th, many lifetimes of seclusion or imprisonment so it's my comfort zone ruler of South Node 4th conjunct Moon, stay home. Cloistered life.

Astrologers are the same as the public, liars. This one article saying Trump would lose was based on his acceptance of the nomination chart saying "that is when his candidacy begins" that is horseshit. The birth of his candidacy was when he came down that escalator and announced "I am running for President of the United States" same in business the chart of the business is when you say "Okay we are open for business" I have done thousands of business chart that prove true. Hillary uses astrology and announced online at like 3am local. Trump uses it too, it was a good chart and he has done what nobody thought he could do.

You bring your natal chart with you, along with the progressed. Hillary has the chart of a monster, now both Sun/Moon are in Capricorn her chance to bring America down and enslave it. Trump has the chart of truther and progressed Sun 29* Leo conjunct Regulus which is leader/King. The left fears all the powers Obama seized for himself in the hands of Trump, so be it.

Oldwood's picture

"Rationality is man’s basic virtue, the source of all his other virtues. Man’s basic vice, the source of all his evils, is the act of unfocusing his mind, the suspension of his consciousness, which is not blindness, but the refusal to see, not ignorance, but the refusal to know. Irrationality is the rejection of man’s means of survival and, therefore, a commitment to a course of blind destruction; that which is anti-mind, is anti-life."

Ayn Rand

i believe this with all my soul

Nexus789's picture

There is another perspective to this. It may appear to casual observer that the Russians are 'accommodating' but the Russians use an approach called 'Reflexive Control'. "The aim of Reflexive Control is to interfere with the opponent's decision making process. It is employed by the Russians on many dimensions - the strategic level both in external and internal politics. Things might not be what they seem and I would suspect that Russians are preparing for a conflict.

HowdyDoody's picture

"I would suspect that Russians are preparing for a conflict."

Too true. They have been live testing C&C in Syria, using most of their latest weapons, plus they are preparing to take out the Romanian (at least) 'Missile Offense' base at the right time. They have recently had a mass drill for the units close to the Donbass border - be on station and ready to go in 24 hours. They have cut Poroshenko out of Minsk. The OSCE knows full well the Ukrop shelling of Donbass is as bad as it was before the ceasefire, if not worse. The OSCE refuses to go to the worst shelled areas as it is too dangerous for them. I would not be surprised if the Russians pull a real humnatiarian intervention into east Ukraine to destroy all Ukrop heavy weaponry within the ceasefire zone (which should not be there according to Minsk), then withdraw back over the border and wait.

crazzziecanuck's picture

But Russia would militarily violate the territory and sovereignty of another country!  That's a supreme international warcime where we hung people for less!