Colorado Professors Kick 'Deniers' Out - "We Will Not, At Any Time, Debate Climate Change"

Tyler Durden's picture

Colorado Springs

Professors Laroche, Haggren and Skahill of the University of Colorado - Colorado Springs will not allow you to invade their man-made climate change "safe space" and if you don't like it then you can get out.  According to The College Fix, that is the response students recently received from the progressive teacher trio after "expressing concern" for their success in a course that refused to debate climate change. 

The full email from the teachers is posted below but here are a couple of the highlights:

"We have received several emails from students expressing concern for their success in our course given their personal perspectives on climate change."

 

“The point of departure for this course is based on the scientific premise that human induced climate change is valid and occurring. We will not, at any time, debate the science of climate change, nor will the ‘other side’ of the climate change debate be taught or discussed in this course.  Opening up a debate that 98% of climate scientists unequivocally agree to be a non-debate would detract from the central concerns of environment and health addressed in this course.”

 

“… If you believe this premise to be an issue for you, we respectfully ask that you do not take this course, as there are options within the Humanities program for face to face this semester and online next.”

 

Here is the full email from the professors of HUM 3990 SECOL1 - Master - Special Topics in Humanities:  Climate Change (click picture for a larger image.)

Email

 

Would it be inappropriate to share Nasa's findings that Antarctica's ice sheet has actually been growing larger rather than shrinking (see "Another Inconvenient Truth? New NASA Study Finds Antarctica Is Gaining Ice")? 

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Syrin's picture

The science is never settled you carpet munching bitches.   Real scienceshows the earth is cooling, and rather quickly which matches the solar cycle.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Of course you cannot debate Climate Change with activist, anymore that you can debate Catholicism with Pope… Is like at dinner table, you are not discuss religion.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Silly students, this course is not about critical thinking, but rather predictive programming.

But a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down....or so I'm told.

Pinto Currency's picture

“Massively Altered” …German Professor Examines NASA GISS Temperature Datasets

http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-t...

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) Pinto Currency Aug 31, 2016 3:39 PM

Yes, "NO CRITICAL THINKING ALLOWED.  This is COLLEGE, DAMN IT!!! If you believe that you need to think go get a job or something..." said the lesbian, formerly womyn's studies "teachers."

Pinto Currency's picture

 

Can't talk about Hillary Clinton's health, e-mails, Bengazi, etc. either - everyone is just supposed to get used to it.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Well, you cannot have it where average German citizen is walk around and speak poor of der Führer.

TerminalDebt's picture

The earth is the centre of the universe dammit, all scientist agree except you Galileo, so you better change your mind

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Boris is send nasty email to Prof. Larouche (use of "prof" is question):

https://twitter.com/BorisAlatovkrap/status/771074091382034433

rrrr's picture

How dare they go against all the experienced scientific thinkers who post in the Zerohedge comments. It's preposterous that mere scientists would think they are right about anything. They could so easily just read the Zerohedge comments, and they would know how wrong they are. Take the typical commenter for example. It has snowed three times in their yard in the past eight years, and that's an increase of 25 percent, so they think it's obvious something is going on in the cooling department. Or their air conditioning bill went down last month, so there can't be warming. You guys think it's ridiculous that genuine scientists who you think do nothing but sit around doing nothing all day, but who actually spend their time trying to figure out what the climate is doing would know more than a whole website full of self-worshiping nugatoid comment posters can figure out just by reading a few sentences in idiot books written for people with heads the size of robin's eggs. Just wait. When the temperature in New York City reaches 118, you will criticize the scientists for not warning us sooner. Ignorant blitherers.

DownWithYogaPants's picture

rlaroche@uccs.edu

is that where you sent your email to Boris?

SumTing Wong's picture

Oh holy shit. These people think they have it all figured out. 

I'm a lowly math prof. On day one I tell my students never to believe a word out of my mouth. If they are taking it on faith, they don't understand shit. And I'd rather them understand than just say some dumbass at the front of the clss said it was true. I've actually thrown a textbook in the trash in the middle of class when students told me something was true "because the textbook said so." 

And I'm probably outing myself to a number of people who have had me for class. 

By the way 150 datapoints don't make a big enough sample for me to say something is completely settled. I guess my problem is that I've had some statistics classes along the way. And extrapolation is always dangerous. Remember from calculus? Everything looks linear if you zoom in on it enough. Welcome to the snowflake society, where it's not just students who are the importantest, specialest (both of those "words" are trademarked I'm sure) ever in history.

bigkahuna's picture

These "smart" people would run from your calc, stats, diffeq classes faster than the buzzards could hit the shit wagon.

joe6px's picture

It's a humanities course!  LOL!!!!  Those profs wouldn't understand climate science any more than they would college algebra.  It seems the most entrenched climate pushers don't have any science credentials.

Stuck on Zero's picture

You guys are all missing the point. These women are geniuses. They must now be granted tenure and cannot be fired for to do so the university would not be supporting the statist view. In fact, every tenure seeking academic should stand up today and boldly announce their support for climate change to similiarly attain tenure.

yovatti's picture
yovatti (not verified) Stuck on Zero Aug 31, 2016 8:09 PM

I'd do the one in the middle.

 

 

rrrr's picture

Thank you for the links. I will look at them.

Calmyourself's picture

Flak ya got a new name good on ya..  Seen the latest research on the cooling in the N Atlantic?  No, that darn heat just keeps disappearing well some good news seems like maybe a hurricane could hit the US this year..  So ya got that going for ya..

Sauk Leader's picture

For anyone interested in a good presentation on the scientific data used to reach this consensus watch the video below. NOAA would make the BLS proud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjlPvwRP-fM

newdoobie's picture

I am a climate scientist and I do not believe in MMGW.

 

I can easily dismiss the majority of 'climate science' with little effort.

 

I always love it when told that the best and brightest are on this and they all agree so we better tow the line.

ebear's picture

FWIW, my professor pal mentioned earlier is on the same page.  He thinks the entire MM climate change circus is one giant fraud and an academic disgrace.

As a statistician, he particularly despises the abuse of his discipline in support of a political agenda.

 

 

Stuck on Zero's picture

Since man-made climate change is absolutely true and a scientifically proven fact will these three academics tell us whether the earth is getting warmer or colder?  And if climate science is something they understand would they care to to predict next months weather?

laser's picture

Follow the money to JPM, GS, etc. Many billions to be made trading paper carbon credits if they can pull off this hoax.

PositiveChanges's picture

NASA has 100s of data points proving our solar system is energetically expanding and becoming warmer.

What part of our industry is as fault for Saturn's rings expanding and surface temps increasing?

Oh, that's right, the earth is not effected by energies effecting all planets.

Now, please explain how increased plant food (carbon) and longer growing seasons are detrimental to a planet with trillions of life forms all expecting to eat tomorrow.

In the 70s, Michigan had days over 100 every summer for years.  It has now been over a decade since triple digits have been seen.

Science is NEVER settled.  A real scientific mind would NEVER discourage or dismiss challenges to his theory.

It is through opposite theories, and discourse, that science advances.

Keep believing those paid to lie, I'm sure it will work out.

LibertarianMenace's picture

There are no closed form solutions for non-linear dynamics. Deriving even population statistics (oh say, average temperature) requires some pretty hefty assumptions and complex numerical methods to develop an envelope. So we're left with empirical observation. Here's one:

http://geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif

 

Me, I'm an air-conditioned gypsy. But if you're genuinely concerned, how about you helping the globe out by turning off your computer?

ebear's picture

"When the temperature in New York City reaches 118..."

You say that like it's a bad thing.

JamesBond's picture

These mandated core type classes are how nuniversities make their bread-and-butter money.  

And students know they are an easy A.  

Always follow the money.

 

 

American Psycho's picture

Goddamn Boris.  I almost want to join Twatter just to follow your comments. 

Itinerant's picture

Would you want to teach a course about physics where you had some hecklers going on about whether the force of gravity exists as such?

How about a course on Plato with people in the peanut gallery continually questioning whether "The Republic" exists, and, if so, if it can be attributed to Plato.

There simply practical limits to focusing attention on a certain subject. There is more than enough room for enterprising students to study physics or chemistry and write a good paper correcting some aspect of current theory or the data sets. There are lots of disputes and unresolved parameters in climate science or paleoclimate, and more than enough things that have not yet been studied in depth. You would instantly launch yourself to a celebrity and a promising academic careeer. But you would have to study and get into the material.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Of course, "Global Warming" (or whatever is current euphemism for "sky is falling, surrender all power to awesome powerful state") is not physics or even essence of physical causality.

Itinerant's picture

No? The physics of CO² absorbing and re-radiating certain wavelengths of infrared light have been known and elaborated since 1857 (John Tyndall) or so. These considerations are even factored into military heat-seeking missiles to avoid inaccuracies. Were the development of the missile electronics by the military in the sixties and seventies in on the hoax?

Apply Force's picture

Itinerant - Not seeing the forest for the trees.  A complex, interdependent system that is a bit beyond our "modeling" as it stands.  Nice on your selected details, though.

Charming Anarchist's picture

Everything with the word "global" associated to it is a hoax. 

peddling-fiction's picture

Yep, using terms like Earth or Firmament are on the money.

newdoobie's picture

It's not the CO2, the greenhouse gases cannot raise the temperature that much. It's the H2O that is the big worry.

The belief that greenhouse gases raise the temperature just enough to evaporate enough H2O to cause runaway warming.

Please study up on the 'science' before posting.

PureLove's picture

Oh, it's all 'feedbacks,' that's for sure.  Of course, that does little to explain how the Earth ever survived thousands of times higher amounts of CO2 than are present today without, what was it?  'runaway warming' turning the place into Venus.  'The actual science' is buried under a mountain of bullshit at this point.

TuPhat's picture

In the real world, the physics of CO2 don't have anything to do with climate change.  Heat seeking missiles on the other hand can change a small local climate by quite a bit.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Oh my goodness, this so much frustrating. CO2 is only emit what it is absorb, only absorb what is a) already in system or b) what is inbound from Sol. Unless you are somehow possess control switch for attenuation of solar output, maybe mankind is little (er, nothing) to do with warm and cool cycle but what is equilibrium state of earth.

rrrr's picture

 To Boris : The truth is that scientists went to a lot of trouble to convince our government that there is a problem, not the other way around. Our government, for once, did the right thing. They listened to people who know more than they do.

newdoobie's picture

They are the best and the brightest.... uh oh we all better listen to our betters.

 

Why don't you educate yourself on the subject and stop talking about what the global warming scientists know.

Lumberjack's picture

Sort of like the same way all these trade deals are being brokered in secret. You must remember that our illustrious law makers are allowed to insider trade.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Boris' government is mad at your government that is make fudge of data point. China too is angry because many data that is outside of model range is toss. This is go on since 2005 at East Anglia and IPPC.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

"Lot of Trouble" = "Boy oh boy, is so much paperwork to apply for government grant"

Dick Buttkiss's picture

Read this book — https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Case-Fossil-Fuels/dp/1591847443/ref=sr_1_1?... — and then let's talk.

In the meantime, feast your eyes on the author's Senate testimony, which, among other things, forces Babs Boxer to admit what lies (no pun intended) behind her every move:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KoYJ64vjA

Son of Loki's picture

Odd all three of these "professors" live at the same address on Dildo Drive in a one bedroom house.

Implied Violins's picture

...and they have three separate bathrooms.