Over 70% Of US Doctors Surveyed Say Hillary's Health Concerns Are "Serious, Possibly Disqualifying"

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On a day when Hillary Clinton proclaimed the media biased (against her), labeling the GOP as "sad, misogynistic sexists," a survey of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) found that nearly 71% of physicians thought concerns about Hillary Clinton's health are "serious - could be disqualifying for the position of President."

With her lead over Trump tumbling to six-week lows following a poor performance at last night's "commander-in-chief" forum, and a press conference focused on what she was not asked (or didn't answer)...

Source: RealClearPolitics

Hillary Clinton's campaign has called "sexism" on the GOP. As The Hill reports,

The Democratic nominee, along with top surrogates and allies, has seized on Trump’s recent comment that Clinton does not have a “presidential look,” using the comment to depict him as sexist.

 

The former secretary of State also laid into Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus for his tweet that she looked “angry” during an MSNBC presidential forum.

 

Clinton didn’t rule out sexism when asked if she was being treated differently in the political race because she is a woman.

 

“I'm going to let all of you ponder that last question,” the first female presidential nominee replied with a grin at a press conference.

 

“I think there will be a lot of Ph.D. theses and popular journalism writing on that subject for years to come. I don’t take my advice and I don’t take anything seriously that comes from the RNC.”

Chelsea Clinton also waded into the debate on Thursday, criticizing Trump’s remarks about a “presidential look.”

“Everyone can see that as the sad, misogynistic, sexist rhetoric that I hoped we had moved beyond in the 21st century,” the former first lady's daughter said.

This isn’t the first time accusations of sexism have bubbled up during the campaign.

Earlier this year, Clinton fired at Trump for saying that if she were a man, “she would get 5 percent of the vote.” The billionaire criticized Clinton at the time for playing the “woman card.”

 

“They're pretty quick to yell sexism in a crowded theater ... but constantly playing the victim card is not something you do from a position of strength,” said Republican strategist Matt Mackowiak.

 

Mackowiak said playing up gender is a “risk that can backfire” especially because “the first to make inroads with the other [demographic] will win.”

This 'sexist' call follows a lambasting of any and everyone who even mentions her health as "conspiracy theorists" with a political axe to grind. Ultimately, the media frenzy culminated in an article written by the WaPo's Chris Cilizza who concluded that "the questions about Hillary Clinton's health are absurd"...

... a statement which could pass for absurd judging by the Clinton campaign's furious response to demonize any member of the mainstream who dares to even bring them up.

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Which means that, according to AAPS, over 70% of US doctors and surgeons are absurd right-wing tin-foil hat-wearers...

Concerns about Hillary Clinton's health are "serious—could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.," say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were "likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records." Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern."

 

While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis.

 

More than 78% said the health concerns had received "not enough emphasis" in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis."

 

Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate's fitness to serve for health reasons should "make the concerns known to the public." Only 11% said a physician should "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient," and 10% that the candidate's health was "off limits for public discussion."

Eighty-eight respondents submitted comments.

One said that "the public interest will ALWAYS override either privacy rights or rights of self-determination in the case of a presidential candidate."

 

Another mentioned Clinton's "so called loss of memory claimed during her FBI questioning about her email server."

 

Beyond the specific questions, one remarked that "I think that the candidate should be honest with the public about his/her health!"

 

The history of the concussion was concerning: "The public must watch the movie Concussion to realize that such an injury does affect thought process."

A poll of 833 randomly selected registered voters by Gravis Marketing showed that nearly half (49%) were not aware of the "well documented major health issues that Hillary Clinton has." Nearly three-fourths (74%) were unaware of Bill Clinton's statement that Hillary suffered a "terrible" concussion requiring "six months of very serious work to get over." The majority (57%) thought that candidates should release their medical records.

"Both physicians and other voters think that health concerns are relevant when choosing a presidential candidate," states AAPS executive director Jane M. Orient, M.D.

 

"However, more than 40% of physician respondents were unaware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and the vast majority of voters were not aware of all of Clinton's problems or their potential serious long-term implications for cognitive function."

Now that's a lot of "absurd conspiracy theorists."

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kliguy38's picture

I'd like to know what Medical school the 30% went to that think its not disqualifying

dsty's picture

umm, some medical school

Can't handle the truth can you.

Manthong's picture

“Health Concerns”   ??????

 

Try "Chronic Publicly Exhibited Symptoms".

 

Crud... how ignorant are y'all, anyway?   

 

remain calm's picture

Hilary has cerebral-rectal fistula, which means she has shit for brains. I am Holiday Express Gold card member.

Whoa Dammit's picture

Too bad no one asked her about Aleppo. She would have beenn immediately disqualified like Gary Johnson. 

Manthong's picture

 I am not a PhD, but I play one on the Interweb.

I am also not an Md., but you do not have to have a Doctoral degree in particle physics or brain science to see that the bitch is whacked.

 

yovatti's picture

"70% of the AAPS" is very different from "70% of American Doctors".

 

The AAPS is an ultra-right wing nutjob group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Sur...

 

Manthong's picture

I am not a rocket scientist, but since I permanently live with section 8 vouchers at a Motel 6, I am going to analyze Musk’s Falcon upper stage O2 situation and issue a report alongside of the analysis that concludes Hellary is a flaming crazy twat.

 

Manthong's picture

Crud... how ignorant are y'all, anyway?   ...

That was rhetorical for the majority of the crowd here.. but pointed out to the general population……..

J S Bach's picture

Nothing disqualifies the wicked witch of the west wing but a bucket of water thrown by Donald (Dorothy) Trump.

Keep flinging it and she will melt away.

CheapBastard's picture

"Only 70% of this group from Haiti's Santa Tomas School of Voodoo and Quackery ....."

Well, that expalins it.

When board certified american doctors are asked the results show 98%.

ufos8mycow's picture

If a concussion from a random fall permanently destroys any kind of future public service career for that she-devil I swear I'll toast Fate and a whole slew of different gods.

californiagirl's picture

Okay , I looked at the survey. It was informal and only 250 responded. Not sure that qualifies as a statistically valid response. Also, not sure how they know that all the respondents are physicians. 

The doctors I know would never express an opinion without examining her themselves. Otherwise it is speculatuon.

I think she exhibits plenty of signs that she is seriously ill and should not be president, in addition to her other disqualifying traits of lack of ethics, no common sense (stupidity), greed and criminal behavior. 

bleu's picture

They will drag her kicking and screaming into the oval orifice.
http://bit.ly/1p1jKnr

FreezeThese's picture

Informal internet survey ... that's what we're going with?

MalteseFalcon's picture

Hitlery is obviously quite ill and a doctor's opinion is not needed.

Your lying eyes are all that is needed.

If Hitlery's cough is just an allergy, there are any number of OTC medicines to stop it. 

I've done it and so have you.

Do you think I'm going into a public presentation without controlling a controllable cough?

No, but Hitlery does all the time.

Why?

Because Hitlery cannot control the cough and other symptoms, because they're serious.

 

californiagirl's picture

If you saw my few comments yesterday, I explain that I don't think it is allergies or asthma, but possiblly a much worse interstitial lung disease, 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-06/clinton-campaign-slams-nbc-cove...

BTW, I agree with your comment that she cannot control it. And her meds could cause it to worsen. If she ends up being EPOTUS, I think we will all see her health continue to decline. But what happens to America and the world will be worse. For one, we will probably end up in a war with Russia, not to mention others, and we will get millions of refugees flooding in.

TellMeTrue's picture

This is not a poll. It is propaganda. There are about 5,000 members in AAPS, a conservative fringe medical association made up mostly of Tea Party members. They only polled 250 members. That is not a representative sample. They sued Hillary Clinton when Bill was president for having the audacity to propose one-payer health care, which all other developed nations have - with far better health outcomes than the price gouging U.S. medical system.  AAPS members will not treat Medicare or Medicaid patients. That's your parents and grandparents. They have published articles suggesting abortion causes breast cancer and AIDs is not caused by HIV. For more info see http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/11/tea-party-doctors-american-a... and http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/12/the-doctor-behind-the-d... and 

loveyajimbo's picture

You are full of merde, fella... concussion, cerebral sinus thrombosis, and deep venous thrombosis are all VERY serious issues and they will not go away just because libturd douchebags like you call "foul"... especially with her recurring symptoms, for all the world to see... no matter how the visious old POS manages her press... much like Al Capone or Gotti did... your gal is getting to be a pathetic and craven figure.  You too.

 

TellMeTrue's picture

You are speaking to a regisered nurse and nursing educator with over 35 years of experience. Many people suffer concussions. One concusion does not equal brain damage. People fully recover from a concussion. Hillary is not a football player or boxer. She is not subject to repeat concussions.

Cerebral sinus thrombosis and deep venous thrombosis are both simply blood clots, just in different parts of the body. Many people have clotting disorders. They simply take blood thinner to prevent any future problems. 

This is not a contest for president of the local Chamber of Commerce. This is serious business. Name calling gets in the way of serious discussion about issues that matter. 

Why do you believe a businessman with no experience in government, law or public service, with four enormous bankruptcies that left many hundreds of small businessmen holding huge debts, two failed marriages, a long-term affair while married, no interest or knowledge about government or the world, who changes his mind and his opinion at the drop of a hat, who reveres dictators, should be president of the United States?

drendebe10's picture

TMT, your clinical assessments are superficial and simplistic.  Head injury history with several episodes dicumented on video consustent with Jacksonian seuzures is highly suggestive of cerebral parenchymal lesions.  EEG and brain imaging woukd be diagnostic. A transverse sinus thrombus is an atypical occurrence unless there is underlying pathology.it is a symptom of disease & anticoagulants to treat the symptom does not address the etioligic pathology.  With all due respect to your illustrious career, a little superficial knowledge is usually  dangerous in the grasp of the arrogant dimwitted.

TellMeTrue's picture

drendebe2

You are diagnosing Clinton with Jacksonian seizures from video clips, and you call me arrogant and my suggestions simplistic?  You know the letter from Trump’s “personal” physician of 30 years is a fake. No medical school graduate would write such a letter. His tests are all “positive”?  But here you are, diagnosing Hillary Clinton with epilepsy from digital video clips, that can be edited without a trace.

You must be a member of the AAPS.

While print publications and the broadcast media distort and lie about Clinton’s many achievements, suitability for the presidency, health, record, and thoughtful plans for her presidency if elected, Trump’s failings and failures are ignored, his lies repeated as truths, his taxes, health status, and actual plans for his presidency hidden from view.

 

Neochrome's picture

"You must be a member of the AAPS."

Which still doesn't take nurses as members.

TellMeTrue's picture

drendebe2

You are diagnosing Clinton with Jacksonian seizures from video clips, and you call me arrogant and my suggestions (NOT "assessment") simplistic?  You know the letter from Trump’s “personal” physician of 30 years is a fake. No medical school graduate would write such a letter. His tests are all “positive”?  But here you are, diagnosing Hillary Clinton with epilepsy from digital video clips, that can be edited without a trace.

You must be a member of the AAPS.

While print publications and the broadcast media distort and lie about Clinton’s many achievements, suitability for the presidency, health, record, and thoughtful plans for her presidency if elected, Trump’s failings and failures are ignored, his lies repeated as truths, his tax returns, health status, and actual plans for his presidency hidden from view. There is nary a place on the internet, or a newspaper, magazine, radio or TV station that is not owned by right wing interests.

Trump has no experience with government, law, public service or diplomacy. He doesn't like to read or study. He wants simple solutions to complex problems that many brilliant minds have worked hard to solve without success. Trump wants to fire the generals whose actions he disagrees with. He lied about what was said in security briefings. He is disagreeable and volatile.States the biggest problem facing the U.S is illegal immigration from Mexico.

Highly complex economic problems caused by a world economy and failed economic policies will disappear when a 2000 mile long wall is built and our friends, neighbors, co-workers, husbands, wives, children who have been in this country paying taxes and being good citizens in deed if not fact, for years if not decades, are deported?

Both Clinton and Trump have many faults. Who is actually better suited and qualified to be president of the United States, distortions, lies and inuendo aside?

By the way, I started this campaign season with no intention of ever voting for Hillary Clinton. Trump has changed my mind about that. 


drendebe10's picture

Tsk tsk...  My aren't we the touchy one. No one is making any diagnoses, just reporting medical facts.  You like many nurses think they know more than physicians who have had 12 to 15 years of schooling & training.  The jist of your words also suggest you must be a progressive liberal democraps who would prefer a documented recidivist liar & corrupt greedy influence peddling criminal with no significant real world accomplishments to be president.  Again, superficial knowledge in the grasp of the arrogant dimwitted is a dangerous thing.  That is a statement not an insult but if anyone takes it personally, they clearly have issues.

TellMeTrue's picture

"Touchy" about the possibility of a lifelong salesman being elected president of our nation by stoking fears and grievances through a campaign based on outright lies, half-truths, distortions, gaping omissions, and gossip? You bet.

"Medical facts" based on video clips that can be manipulated more easily than an "internet poll" from a Public Relations firm?  This was a PR piece, an opinion poll, with selective participation of less than 5% of the members of a bonified fringe medical association, published exclusively on ZH.

I am well aware that my training, experience and knowledge as a registered nurse and educator is not comparable to medical education and training. I inferred neither a medical diagnosis nor a nursing assessment as both require examination of the patient, a current and complete medical record, thorough history and physical examination, and current laboratory testing and imaging studies conducted/ordered by a qualified physician specialist.

Medical facts? No. Politically motivated speculation, yes. Diversion from the greater faults of a corrupt businessman/huckster with a vocabulary that emphasizes "believe me", "great", "me", "fire", "tremendous", "problem", "hatred", "kill", "fight",  and "destroy". Whose "success" is based upon cheating other people out of their money through legal loopholes, intimidation, and false promises, who enjoys  inciting people to violence, and using immigrants as scapegoats for problems unrelated to them. Problems caused by an unholy alliance between government and corporations.  

 

 

drendebe10's picture

TMT, your clinical assessments are superficial and simplistic.  Head injury history with several episodes dicumented on video consustent with Jacksonian seuzures is highly suggestive of cerebral parenchymal lesions.  EEG and brain imaging woukd be diagnostic. A transverse sinus thrombus is an atypical occurrence unless there is underlying pathology.it is a symptom of disease & anticoagulants to treat the symptom does not address the etioligic pathology.  With all due respect to your illustrious career, a little superficial knowledge is usually  dangerous in the grasp of the arrogant dimwitted.

drendebe10's picture

TMT, your clinical assessments are superficial and simplistic.  Head injury history with several episodes dicumented on video consustent with Jacksonian seuzures is highly suggestive of cerebral parenchymal lesions.  EEG and brain imaging woukd be diagnostic. A transverse sinus thrombus is an atypical occurrence unless there is underlying pathology.it is a symptom of disease & anticoagulants to treat the symptom does not address the etioligic pathology.  With all due respect to your illustrious career, a little superficial knowledge is usually  dangerous in the grasp of the arrogant dimwitted.

MalteseFalcon's picture

"You are speaking to a regisered nurse and nursing educator with over 35 years of experience."

If I don't need a doctor's opinion, I don't need yours.

An "expert's" opinion is worth nothing when they are biased, have a blind spot and are not thinking clearly.

It is obvious that Hitlery is quite ill.

Her illness and the fact that it is being hidden purposefully disqualifies her from public office.

Neochrome's picture

I am sure if Trump had those afflictions, frequent coughing fits, being described by close subordinates as "often confused", testified to a memory loss due to brain injury, had schedule messed up due to frequent oversleep's and so on, you would just shrug it off as well. Please, bitch...

TellMeTrue's picture

You are speaking to a regisered nurse and nursing educator with over 35 years of experience. Many people suffer concussions. One concusion does not equal brain damage. People fully recover from a concussion. Hillary is not a football player or boxer. She is not subject to repeat concussions.

Cerebral sinus thrombosis and deep venous thrombosis are both simply blood clots, just in different parts of the body. Many people have clotting disorders. They simply take blood thinner to prevent any future problems. 

This is not a contest for president of the local Chamber of Commerce. This is serious business. Name calling gets in the way of serious discussion about issues that matter. 

Why do you believe a businessman with no experience in government, law or public service, with four enormous bankruptcies that left many hundreds of small businessmen holding huge debts, two failed marriages, a long-term affair while married, no interest or knowledge about government or the world, who changes his mind and his opinion at the drop of a hat, who reveres dictators, should be president of the United States?

Lebensphilosoph's picture

You are speaking to a regisered nurse and nursing educator with over 35 years of experience.

Are you a hag or a fag?

BetterRalph's picture

I would go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe the down votes are cause many of us don't consider someone who commit treason qualified to even be on the ballot, so really we don't care too much about her health other than can it make the process of removing this treasson and routing it the fuck back out any faster.  While I would love things to speed along myself, I ain't willing to cut corners, as I want her data gone through for ties to terrorism, and her friend trees as well. An awful lot of people have turned their head when they KNOW it's wrong about this TREASON, they in turn become guilty of the SAME, so excuse those of us who simply can't get to the point of giving a shit about Hillary's health, I would drag that fucker who wiped the server and got immunity back under being a fucking conspiracy and terrorist..  If anything I worry the intent is to Seat Globalist Kaine and others (FCC, SCOTUS, on an on) after Nature takes it's course on her, it may be their plan all along. but now that I said it at least others are goint to be running it through the meat grinder of what-if's. don't call me paranoid, this treason tends to make people this way.

 

In my world.

The person on the ballot can't be a traitor by their own historic past deeds.

The borders of this country MUST BE SECURED.

I want the rule of LAW back before the sheriff is overwhelmed with a fucking invasion of illegals by these traitors decisions.

 

Regarding trump, he ain't perfect. I like that he turns on a dime, we need that right now. It's this slow turning crap that has got us here. Oops made a mistake, let let her ride the next 50 years...   fuck that, I want a POTUS that can bend fast and counter mistakes and evil.  I heard things from him I didn't like, then people straightend him out couple hours, or day later.  I seen this with trump couple times myself. I say it's a FEATURE not a flaw. If people give you shit information like STATINS and low fat high carb diet no wonder you get a STENT, and when you go on Low Carb High Fat and your arteries heal, and you drop the DAPT..  Still not sure about the little baby asprin...  My bad for smoking 4 of every 5 years. But it's reversed now, stable weight, low bp, bmi good to go.  The only thing that can get me now is war, vaccines, or poison perhaps they are the same.

 

Also the CHanging that I seen is of the LAWS like every five minutes, and so how is a business to make a 10 year plan when ever fucking day the law changes. That's partially why this economy is screwed.  Want to talk about the second amendment and the hospital, 36 agencies, and the fucking DSM-IV, and the false science called psychiatry being exploited politically?  didn't think so.

 

I only cover SOME of the possible reasons you MIGHT of got down tagged, I am a NEW user here myself. Lurking for years though.

I didn't down tag ya so don't take it personal.  I am just sayin, being a neighbor. Hey neighbor.

 

 

 

TellMeTrue's picture

Hey, Better Ralph. I see you are a thoughtful person. You make some interesting points.

I expected to get down-tagged. I'm here to explore ideas. Don't expectd to win hearts and minds. Time is limited now. Will think about what you’ve said.

 

Neochrome's picture

"reveres dictators"

Check Putin's approval rating  bitch.

Which part of "anti establisment candidate" you fail to comprehend?

californiagirl's picture

I never said it was a "poll"

TellMeTrue's picture

But it is a poll, not a survey. That’s what the ZeroHedge and source say it is. By the way, the source is a public relations firm, called PR Wire. http://www.prnewswire.com/solutions/overview/

TellMeTrue's picture

This is not a poll. It is propaganda. There are about 5,000 members in AAPS, a conservative fringe medical association made up mostly of Tea Party members. They only polled 250 members. That is not a representative sample. They sued Hillary Clinton when Bill was president for having the audacity to propose one-payer health care, which all other developed nations have - with far better health outcomes than the price gouging U.S. medical system.  AAPS members will not treat Medicare or Medicaid patients. That's your parents and grandparents. They have published articles suggesting abortion causes breast cancer and AIDs is not caused by HIV. For more info seehttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/11/tea-party-doctors-american-a... andhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/12/the-doctor-behind-the-d... and 

TellMeTrue's picture

This is not a poll. It is propaganda. There are about 5,000 members in AAPS, a conservative fringe medical association made up mostly of Tea Party members. They only polled 250 members. That is not a representative sample. They sued Hillary Clinton when Bill was president for having the audacity to propose one-payer health care, which all other developed nations have - with far better health outcomes than the price gouging U.S. medical system.  AAPS members will not treat Medicare or Medicaid patients. That's your parents and grandparents. They have published articles suggesting abortion causes breast cancer and AIDs is not caused by HIV. For more info seehttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/11/tea-party-doctors-american-a... andhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/12/the-doctor-behind-the-d... and 

TellMeTrue's picture

California Girl. How do you rate Trump on ethics, common sense, greed and criminal behavior?

californiagirl's picture

Way better than the Clinton Crime Clan. I happen to know someone who used to work for RTC and personally was involved in the Whitewater, BCCI and related massive web of fraud investigations. He found bugs in his apartment and car, had people following him and received death theats in the mail. After one of his colleagues wound up dead (his and his coworker's opinion was "murdered"), he quit his job and moved to Silicon Valley to start his career over. I met him in the mid 1990s a few months after he came to California, and he told me many details and that the nature of the activity was much worse than what came out in the media. I have paid attention to the Clinton's crimes since that time. I don't think Trump is innocent, but his transgressions cannot come close to comparing to the Clintons', unless, of course, he is secretly a mafia boss, dealing in drugs, murder, extorsion, etc.  

Perhaps the Clinton Crime streak began when Bill was kicked out of Oxford for raping a 19 year old girl.

Lebensphilosoph's picture

How do you rate, on ethics, a woman who supports the murder of the unborn, stayed married to Bill Clinton, started the Clinton Foundation, and deleted servers upon subpoena to eliminate encriminating evidence and then purjored herself before congress abotu it? Fuck off.

TellMeTrue's picture

I always said I would never vote for Clinton. But that was before the only real alternative was Trump. I think they are both flawed people. But Clinton has education and experience in government, law, public policy, diplomacy and public service. She is thoughtful about decisions. I don't trust Clinton but I trust Trump less.

BetterRalph's picture

ima re-phrase around a bit. entertain me please..

I use the ABCDEF  ( Advanced Bonewitz Cult Danger Evaluation Frame ) how do you rate Hillary on it?

reference: http://www.neopagan.net/ABCDEF.html

 

for bonus points explain how the actions of DHS vs the existing rule of law US Constitution can possibly co-exist, and how they got ACTIVATED in the first place, I mean who screwed the pooch and broke their oath of office?

 

It's been downhill since that agency was created.  It must go.

 

Regarding trump.  He ain't broke any oath. He hasn't commit treason. He didn't support a coup in honduras. He's going to make sure we are ARMED and ready to rock, instead of disarmed and waiting for invasion by DHS or ISIS (are they ANY different!?)  I say that makes him much more qualified but hey, I'm only your NEIGHBOR with the STENT and I see illegals have more rights than me. At some point when do I say screw the law?  OR when do I get to be a DREAMER to live in Mexico on their welfare system?  Or how many syrian and muslem refugees are going to stay in Israel?

I am a product of the SYSTEM, which has made me this way. Some of my skin is like LEATHER now.

I am used to the HOSE going up my penis.

Take as much blood as you want.

 

 

rrrr's picture

They might express an opinion without examining her, but not without charging a fee.

PT's picture

I just assumed that the 30% did not use the internet or watch TV.

rrrr's picture

Nine out of ten New York doctors who have tried Camels say they prefer women.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Don't really care whether or not she's dying. I Hope she is. However, what is important is that she's a proven Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonist Psychopath.

BENGAZI. Everything else is a distraction.