Ron Paul: Vote All You Want, The Secret Government Won't Change

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Former congressman Ron Paul is outspoken. When he retired from Congress, he called lawmakers psychopathic authoritarians to their faces. He’s also called Donald Trump an authoritarian and asserted Hillary Clinton could have run as a Republican. And just last week, Paul took aim at the foundational structure of American ‘democracy.’

In a recent episode of his web show, the Liberty Report, Ron Paul discussed the Department of Homeland Security’s decision last month to take a more active role in U.S. elections. Secretary Jeh Johnson said he was “considering whether elections should be classified as ‘critical infrastructure,’ affording them the same kinds of enhanced protections that the banking system and the electrical grid receive,” POLITICO reported.

The potential move came on the heels of the notorious DNC leak in July, which exposed intentions within the Democratic Party to manipulate the primary race against Senator Bernie Sanders. Politicians and the media quickly blamed the hack on Russia, failing to cite conclusive proof of their allegations yet spawning the narrative that the Kremlin and other foreign threats could compromise U.S. elections.

On his show, Paul took issue with the notion that the Department of Homeland Security, an agency riddled with incompetence and failed objectives — case in point, the TSA — is capable of securing U.S. elections.

Speaking on DHS’s decision to become more involved in the process following the DNC hack, Ron Paul offered a scathing indictment of the federal organization, arguing it will capitalize on troubling events to seize power:

They may have false flags and they may do a lot of things, but no matter how an emergency comes up, they’re going to make use of it. And the use of it isn’t to say ‘Hey, how are we going to protect the American people?’ Are they worrying, when they talk about doing something about rigged elections, [that] the votes are counted? No, they’re making sure that the votes aren’t counted and they’re irrelevant and the government has all this power.

Ron Paul speaks about rigged elections from personal experience. In 2012, when he ran for president within the Republican Party, he was silenced by the media and the political establishment. Primaries and caucuses in Maine and other states showed irregularities, and at more than one caucus event, the lights were simply turned off when Paul supporters stood up to Republican leadership. At another caucus, police assaulted and arrested them.

The elections don’t matter. This is a ritual that we go through,” Paul observed last week. Instead, he referenced a seemingly omnipotent power much more influential than the ‘will of the people.’


My belief is that the control is the Deep State, and people have to realize that,” he said.

Michael Lofgren, a former Republican congressional aide, has written extensively on the Deep State and describes it as “a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose.

Lofgren continues:

The Deep State does not consist of the entire government. It is a hybrid of national security and law enforcement agencies: the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the Department of Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department.

Lofgren notes the financial system is also under the influence of the Deep State and that certain areas of the judicial system, namely, the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, are manipulated by the opaque, shadowy apparatus.

As Ron Paul observed:

Those powers are already there and I think those individuals who are behind the scenes who really find out what the policies are going to be, regardless of who’s in office, know exactly what we argue: that this place, our country, and our financial system and foreign policy is very precarious and something terrible is going to happen.

One of those things, he argued, is the continued usurpation of civil liberties:

This is where the real enemy is right now. Sure, we have to have a national defense. But I don’t agitate and read and study and try to change people’s minds because I think somebody is going to invade us. I want to change foreign policy so we are less in danger. But really, the greatest danger since 9/11 has been the taking away of our liberties. Our civil liberties have been undermined. This will only add fuel to the problems we have already.

He concluded:

We do accept the notion that our elections are rigged, but we certainly don’t come down on the side of believing that the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA will unrig our elections.


It is a distressing thing to think that — [this is probably a] true statement — no matter what you do [with] your vote, whether you vote or not, the Deep State is in charge and that is what we have to deal with.”

Nevertheless, Paul remained positive:

“But it is good to be politically active, to preach this message, to show people exactly what the government’s doing to us and why we should be involved.


But of course, the whole purpose, in the end, has to be that we change our economic philosophy, we change our attitude about protection of our civil liberties, and we change our attitude about getting involved in the internal affairs of other nations, occupying other countries, and being involved in nation-building. If we do those three little things then, believe me, the world would be much more peaceful and we would all be much more prosperous.”

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J S Bach's picture

Any suggestions on how to get rid of "them", Dr. Paul?  That's all that fundamentally matters.

Looney's picture

Slightly OT, but this is huge!

The President of Transnistria has issued an executive order “to get all Transnistria’s Laws in-line with the laws of the Russian Federation. The overhaul is to be completed by October of 2016”.

What that means is that Transnistria is getting ready to join Russia, Crimea-style.


A few months ago, NATO’s Aegis Ashore missile “defense” system was installed in Deveselu, Romania, less than 400 miles from the Russian borders. Within days, Putin calmly said that Russia will prepare an adequate response to this aggressive development.

Transnistria is a landlocked thin strip of land along the river Dniester, between Ukraine and Moldova, and it just happens to be 200 miles away from the Deveselu base.

If the tiny Transnistria is admitted into the Russian Federation, the Russian Kalibr missiles installed there can reach the Aegis Ashore in Deveselu in just 5-7 minutes.

Why do we need such an installation so close to the Russian borders which can be taken out within a few minutes?

Here’s something interesting which gets no coverage in the MSM.

It’s impossible to hide a launch of an ICBM or a space rocket – they are too big and leave a huge wide-spectrum signature.

However, the Russians have excelled at hiding launches of smaller missiles like the Kalibrs. A small fleet of specially equipped trucks can quickly mask huge swaths of land with clouds-like smokescreens from radars, optical, UV, IR, and laser sensors. Once a missile is at the cruising speed and flying at 15-50 feet, it is as detectable as a shark in the ocean.

Hey, I just made-up a new proverb: “Do not yank a chain, unless you know what’s on the other end of it”.

Why do we keep yanking that chain?   ;-)


jbvtme's picture

would have been nice if ronnie bones had raised the issue of election fraud while he was running for president and folks were listening to him...

bamawatson's picture

he never did a flippin thing except feed off the public and take the air out of legitimate causes

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

As much as I disagree with libertarians, this year the libertarian party has put together a solid team led by Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. Gary Johnson has made some changes to the libertarian party that make it far more palatable to moderate Americans. He supports the TPP, believes in sensible gun control, supports amnesty for hardworking undocumented immigrants, and believes in helping Syrian refugees. Gary has done a fantastic job of modernizing the libertarian party, and I think that this year they have a real shot of breaking into mainstream politics. He’s a great alternative to Trump.


froze25's picture

Ron Paul, I love you buddy. You woke me up. Why do you think we are behind Trump? Why do you think the Deep State is against him? The evidence they are is overwhelming, just look at who is donating to what campaign and superpacs. Voting for Trump is a vote against the Deep State. Trump 2016

NidStyles's picture

Ron would have been more popular had he red-pilled everyone that followed him.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Some people talk about secret societies and conspiracies, some talk about the 'Deep State'.  Its the same goddamn thing!

But God forbid we admit the 'conspiracy theorists' were right all along...   Ron Paul, why don't you just out the Skull & Bones, CFR, Federal Reserve, et al?

HopefulCynic's picture

FUCKING ASHKENAZI KHAZARS PSEUDO-JEWS. If you are going to criticise for not calling the culprits out, do not hide them yourself. 

Yes I am an anti-semite, for that same reason, no the other way around. Waking up made me an anti-semite, I fucking despise the fucking Ashkenazi Khazars. 

disc_golfer's picture

Trump is as much a part of the deep state puppet brigade as Hillary is.  That's the point of the deep state, nothing is grass roots, of the people.  Reps and Dems are the two sides of a rigged coin. 

PT's picture

Yeah, but if Trump gets in then it will be the first time you have directly elected the briber instead of electing the bribees.

Too harsh?  "Campaign contributor donor" instead of "donee"?

Jim Sampson's picture

Remember the movie Black Sheep?  Yeah.

Syrin's picture

Nope, you are dead ass wrong.  Here's a list who OPENLY oppose him:






-the media

-social media networks

-the Pope

-the EU



There are more I am sure, but pretty much EVERYONE opposes this "deep state" candidate, and are ruining their entire future credibility to do so.  HARDLY.   They did a FRACTION of this to McStain and Romney.   Trump is an independently funded, non member of the deep state, and they are shitting their pants at the thought he might win.   


You are one of those people who like to seem so cool and all knowing that God himself could come down from Heaven and run for office, and you would call him a Rothschild insider.  I bet you wear Chuck Taylors, wear horn rimmed glasses, sit at Starbucks typing out your great American novel on a typewriter wearing skinny jeans and a shitty atitude.

Billy the Poet's picture

Johnson is out over Aleppo. Dean was out because of "Yeahaaa!" But Donald can do or say anything and he just keeps on going. Because TPTB want him to keep on going.

"Please don't throw me into the briar patch, Brer Fox."

HopefulCynic's picture

Mexico and the Pope are not part of the deep state, neither is China. 


Trump is family with an Ashkenazi Khazar, who has family ties with most bankers, hollywood Khazars and much more. 

Crash Overide's picture

It doesn't matter who we vote in, the whole system is so far gone you have to burn it all down and flush it at this point...

I like how Trump talks sometimes but the deep state could pull him aside and threaten the safety of his family if he doesn't play ball, then what? I will probably vote but I think it's more symbolic than anything, voting doesn't give me any shred of confidence that I am actually making a difference. Everyone knows the saying, "If voting changed anything they would make it illegal".

At the end of the day were fucked.

Syrin's picture

This is the more likely scenario.   They did it to Benedict Roberts before his Obamadoesntcare ruling.

scm's picture


You dont think they had this planned already. 



TheMeatTrapper's picture

You don't think. At all.

Billy the Poet's picture

Yes, indeed. Brilliant individuals know that Trump is the man!

TheMeatTrapper's picture

We do know that YOU are not. And thanks for putting words in my mouth. Your strawman creating skills are awesome.

HopefulCynic's picture

The same shit happenned in my country, the ruling party lost for the first time in over 70 years to the opposition, and guess what we got? The same BS, and the candidate was much like Trump.

You will see you will get the same BS, i hope Trump wins so people like you to wake the fuck up, but all of you are to deluded to think for yourselves, and no matter if you are shovelling shit you will still hope and believe in a saviour.

I reckon so's picture

And all the Trump supporters fail to reference candidate history of only 8 years ago.  "Hope and change?"

The Trumpers say "Well, It's different because that was him, and this is Trump."

Idiots all of them, for Trump.  He will be the same snake.  Some people just love their own personal brand of delusion, then wonder why they hate delusion..........

I reckon so's picture

And believe me, I would *** H******** *** *** if I had a chance, even knowing I would go to prison for it.  (statement reviewed by FBI, some parts redacted)

white horse's picture

You are being sarcastic, aren't you? Nobody can be this stupid.

PT's picture

The odds of someone being that stupid is one in seven billion.  Unfortunately, the population of the planet is seven billion.

HopefulCynic's picture

Of course he is and he is very good at it. I for one love reading his sarcasm and also love how everyone eats it up, have you gone to his webpage? I have signed up to become a contributor, I was accepted, I asked MDB if I needed to be as sarcastic as he is, and told him I could since I love to spin things around. 

Mercuryquicksilver's picture

This was a good one MDB. Not sure to up or down vote.

HopefulCynic's picture

I always up vote him, his sarcasm is poetry man, it really is, and most believe it, he raises awareness more than anyone else. 

WVHillbilly's picture

A better effort than several of your recent attempts, imho...

(In reply to mdb)

HopefulCynic's picture

Tell me when has his sarcasm failed to provoke responses that create awareness?


The man is an artist, and i am a fan. 

VinceFostersGhost's picture



Maybe Ron needs to give up like Glenn'm not dead yet.

pazmaker's picture

Glen Beck has given up?  As Far as I know he is still out there talking his crazy smack to the highest bidder ..selling gold, security systems, safes, and prepper food, even recommending real estate agents in my radio market.


I think Glen Beck is interested in 1 thing...fattening his wallet.

ack's picture

Beck is a gay ZIO-scum whore. Mossy has pics of him diddling little boys. Like Mz. Lindsay Graham. Why would ANYONE pay attention to him?

VinceFostersGhost's picture



Mossy has pics of him diddling little boys


Heard it was something....didn't know what.


I'll wait to see the evidence...

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

THis is why the Epstein child smuggling rings exist.  For blackmail first and foremost.  The secondary reasons are too dark for 99/100 men to ponder.

Paul Kersey's picture

Steven Mnuchin, Donald Trump's financial campaign manager, is a former Goldman Sachs partner who worked for Soros.

Gary Gensler, Hillary Clinton's financial campaign manager, is a former Goldman Sachs partner.

Ron Paul is correct, regardless of which of the two-party candidates becomes POTUS, Deep State, the permanent government, will remain in power.

Perimetr's picture

A nuclear war with Russia/China will end human history.

That is the only issue that REALLY matters.  

Trump at least is in favor of co-existence.

E5's picture

Presidents don't make the difference.  The war is comming because the markets will dictate mass starvation as last minute delivery fails to get the shit from the shitting containter shits.  All wars come down to food and what hoops you are required to jump through to get it.  I fully expect the base at Latakia to be nuked along with something to punish the people of Jordan (palestine).  No one will know who in NATO was responsible but NATO nations will have two cities nuked in response.  With the in-fighting between the DOD DIA CIA and fractal political parties civil war will do the rest.  Get to know your community because they are going to be the only ones you trust as you all are scrapping for food.


ack's picture

Yes. They infiltrate everything. But WE give them power. WE enable them to DO what they DO. Without our compliance and PARTICIPATION they are toothless. 


Paul is right and wrong. Our job is to BDS them in EVERY practical facet of our lives. Starve the beast. 


Crash Overide's picture

But how do you convince any of the 300 million Americans to not participate and starve the beast that in millions of cases feeds them?

They can create money out of thin air, detain you without cause, and ruin your life in minutes.

I admit more and more people are awake everyday but we are far from any kind of revolution where things actually change for we the people. At this point we have a better chance of surviving an global scale asteroid strike than we do getting rid of our slave masters.

Sam.Spade's picture

Not true.  You are thinking history repeats it self.  But this time it is different.  I'm not sure how, or what will come of the difference, but this is not the Roman Empire or Napolionic France.

Look at my post elsewhere in this blog about Thieves Emporium and how it talks about a new digital rebellion.

diogi23's picture

Gary Johnson: Transnistria???

WVHillbilly's picture

WVHillbilly:  "Transnistria?"



dubaibubble's picture

Visiting Tiraspol, the capital Tansnistris (Predneistr) is like going into a time machine with statues of Lenin and a well-scrubbed Soviet apperarance to the city, good cognac and shashlik aplenty ;-)


They even made their own borders with Moldova, it is really rather surreal, known as a break-awat republic.

Allen_H's picture

And Syria are cleaning up Aleppo.

Mike Masr's picture

Russian Kalibr Club K -Container missiles

Conventional or nuclear warheads