More Troubling Evidence That Hillary Clinton Will Start WW3

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Back in June, I published a piece titled, More Troubling Evidence That Hillary Clinton Will Start WW3. In it, we learned the following:

Michele Flournoy, the former Defense Department official whom Defense One calls “the woman expected to run the Pentagon under Hillary Clinton,” this week advocated for “sending more American troops into combat against ISIS and the Assad regime than the Obama administration has been willing to commit.” In an interview with that outlet, Flournoy “said she would direct U.S. troops to push President Bashar al-Assad’s forces out of southern Syria and would send more American boots to fight the Islamic State in the region.”

 

She had previously “condemned the Obama administration’s ISIS policy as ineffectual,” denouncing it as “under-resourced.”

 

This week, Flournoy specifically advocated what she called “limited military coercion” to oust Assad. In August 2014, Obama announced what he called “limited airstrikes in Iraq” — and they’re still continuing almost two years later. Also note the clinical euphemism Flournoy created — “military coercion” — for creating a “no-bomb zone” that would entail “a declaratory policy backed up by the threat of force. ‘If you bomb the folks we support, we will retaliate using standoff means to destroy [Russian] proxy forces, or, in this case, Syrian assets,’” she said. Despite D.C. conventional wisdom that Obama is guilty of “inaction” in Syria, he has sent substantial aid, weapons, and training to Syrian rebels while repeatedly bombing ISIS targets in Syria.

 

Even U.S. military officials have said that these sorts of no-fly or no-bomb guarantees Flournoy is promising — which Hillary Clinton herself has previously advocated — would risk a military confrontation with RussiaObama’s defense secretary, Ash Carter, told a Senate hearing last December that the policy Clinton advocates “would require ‘substantial’ ground forces and would put the U.S. military at risk of a direct confrontation with the Syrian regime and Russian forces.” Nonetheless, the Pentagon official highly likely to be Clinton’s defense secretary is clearly signaling their intention to proceed with escalated military action. The carnage in Syria is horrifying, but no rational person should think that U.S. military action will be designed to “help Syrians.”

While that post focused on a likely massive escalation of U.S. militarism in the Middle East under a President Clinton, most Americans remain dangerously unaware of the extreme bad blood between her and Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

For some insight on the topic, let’s examine a few excerpts from an article published earlier today at Reuters:

With U.S. relations with Moscow already plumbing post-Cold War lows, the aides and veteran Russia watchers said she would likely take a harder line than Obama or Republican nominee Donald Trump, who has praised Putin as a strong leader.

 

Dealing with Putin, who is flexing his geopolitical muscle from Ukraine to Syria to cyberspace, will be among Clinton’s biggest foreign policy challenges — one made more daunting by the personal bad blood between them.

 

Jake Sullivan, a former top State Department aide and now senior Clinton campaign advisor, said Clinton could consider the shipping of lethal arms to Ukraine government forces and the creation of no-fly or safe zones in Syria. Obama has rejected both ideas.

 

While such moves could further stoke tensions and might even face resistance from some U.S. allies, Sullivan said in an interview with Reuters that Clinton could manage ties with Russia effectively because Putin would “respect her as U.S. president, her strength, her clarity, her predictability.”

That gave me the biggest laugh I’ve had all month.

According to current and former Clinton advisers, she could consider other policy moves such as stiffer sanctions against Russia over Ukraine and doing more to wean Russia’s neighbors off reliance on Moscow’s energy supplies.

 

Clinton’s first fence-mending effort in March 2009 was not so much a show of strength than of diplomatic clumsiness. She handed Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov a red button that was supposed to have the word “reset” on it. Instead, it was labeled with the Russian word meaning “overcharged.”

 

Clinton’s distrust of Putin deepened, mirrored by his growing list of grievances against her.

Now here’s the most concerning part.

Putin, a former KGB agent, “doesn’t have a soul,” Clinton quipped on the eve of the 2008 New Hampshire presidential primary, riffing off of President George W. Bush’s comment seven years earlier that he had looked into Putin’s eyes and seen his soul.

 

The Russian leader retorted: “At a minimum, a head of state should have a head.”

Is this the sort of starting point you want from a new U.S. President? There’s a reason so many genuine progressives and liberals can’t stomach Hillary Clinton and refuse to vote for her. Sure, there’s the rampant embrace of cronyism and incessant oligarch coddling, but there’s also her penchant for bloodthirsty militarism.

Oliver Stone summed it up perfectly earlier this year when he wrote:

We’re going to war — either hybrid in nature to break the Russian state back to its 1990s subordination, or a hot war (which will destroy our country). Our citizens should know this, but they don’t because our media is dumbed down in its “Pravda”-like support for our “respectable,” highly aggressive government. We are being led, as C. Wright Mills said in the 1950s, by a government full of “crackpot realists: in the name of realism they’ve constructed a paranoid reality all their own.” Our media has credited Hillary Clinton with wonderful foreign policy experience, unlike Trump, without really noting the results of her power-mongering. She’s comparable to Bill Clinton’s choice of Cold War crackpot Madeleine Albright as one of the worst Secretary of States we’ve had since … Condi Rice? Albright boasted, “If we have to use force it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future.”

 

Hillary’s record includes supporting the barbaric “contras” against the Nicaraguan people in the 1980s, supporting the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, supporting the ongoing Bush-Iraq War, the ongoing Afghan mess, and as Secretary of State the destruction of the secular state of Libya, the military coup in Honduras, and the present attempt at “regime change” in Syria. Every one of these situations has resulted in more extremism, more chaos in the world, and more danger to our country. Next will be the borders of Russia, China, and Iran. Look at the viciousness of her recent AIPAC speech (don’t say you haven’t been warned). Can we really bear to watch as Clinton “takes our alliance [with Israel] to the next level”? Where is our sense of proportion? Cannot the media, at the least, call her out on this extremism? The problem, I think, is this political miasma of “correctness” that dominates American thinking (i.e. Trump is extreme, therefore Hillary is not).

 

This is why I’m praying still for Bernie Sanders, because he’s the only one willing, at least in the name of fiscal sanity, to cut back on our foreign interventions, bring the troops home, and with these trillions of dollars no longer wasted on malice, try to protect the “homeland” by actually rebuilding it and putting money into its people, schools, and infrastructure.

This isn’t to say World War 3 is avoidable under a President Trump - I’m not convinced of that. As with everything else regarding Trump, he’s too much of a wildcard to know for sure. That said, I’d certainly argue that under Hillary Clinton, World War 3 is a virtual lock.

Do we really want someone this twisted in charge of the country?

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jeff montanye's picture

her strength, her clarity, her predictability

well.  she's dead.  it's predictable she'll rot.

USisCorrupt's picture

She is on Death's doorstep what does she care about killing everyone on the planet.

BennyBoy's picture

 

Will shaking with Parkinson's make it harder to keep her finger on the button?

 

philipat's picture

Even worse, it has been reported that Wolfowitz would be Hitlery's choice for Defence with Noodleman in State and Power still in the UN. So a complete neocon foreign policy team?!! God help us all...

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) philipat Sep 23, 2016 5:58 AM

Hillary's friend US Ambassador (CIA agent) Chris Stevens in Tripoli.

notice with one hand he is giving the ISIS signal.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv126/kennyrk2/us-ambassador-to-libya...

JRobby's picture

The feedback loop has been building for some time now. It is a weapon used by criminals to destroy the populous of the planet

http://www.steporebook.com/book/nova-express-14332-pdf.html

 

froze25's picture

Hillary Clinton is connected by the Hip to team Bush. Anyone who doesnt see she is a Globalist authoritarian is blind. Trump 2016

Tiwin's picture

Trump has Bush dick up his ass too.Saying Arabs were dancing and celebrating in New Jersey on 9-11 when the whole world knows it was filthy Israleis.

But you keep peddling the blind partisanship.as long as its an "R" in front its great right?

Just like all the fags out in SanFransisco who quit protesting war as soon as it was a "D" war. Sickening.

Our country goes to hell under more than 100 years of "D" and "R" leadership.

Anyone who supports either is full of shit.

jeff montanye's picture

you make a good argument, but given that the choices are two, and all the zionists (and banksters) are supporting one, hillary, doesn't it make sense to try the other?

the mossad agents in new jersey were, after all, disguised as arabs (as always, as the irgun in the king david hotel were).

but your points about mindless partisanship are spot on.

autofixer's picture

She will just rig Google voice to it. What do you want from us? Diiiiieeee.

doctor10's picture

Of course she will. She will do ANYTHING Georgie Boy tells her to do. Just ask Qaddafi....oops

Debugas's picture

if we can not prevent death mongers to rule us then we do not deserve to live as civilization

HenryKissingerChurchill's picture

goy cattle must be ruled by Jewry, cause god said so.

quasi_verbatim's picture

Ol' Cross-Eyes will never punch in the nuclear codes in time.

onmail1's picture

Methinks, Bill shall do it instead

as planned

vulcanraven's picture

"Putin, a former KGB agent, doesn't have a soul"

Looked in the mirror lately, butch? 

Hillarys Server's picture

Hillary has a soul. She just hypothecated it to Satan.

Kagemusho's picture

Mena and Iran/Contra was totally a CIA operation. She is literally Langley's bitch. Glass houses and stones.

COMPROMISED Clinton, Bush and the CIA https://www.amazon.com/Compromised-Clinton-Bush-Terry-Reed/dp/1561712493

"This expose unfolds through the eyewitness account of Terry Reed, a former CIA asset whose patriotism transformed him into a liability when he refused to turn a blind eye to the Agency’s drug trafficking. While helping the CIA set up its secret "black" operations, he unwittingly compromised his family’s safety, ultimately forcing them to become fugitives. Realizing that Reed witnessed the making of a counterfeit President and knew too much about its drug operations, the Agency set out to destroy him and his family.

This Arkansas-CIA connection became Clinton’s darkest secret – a secret he shared by then Vice-President Bush, who himself was compromised by his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal. Their shared guilt kept them silent and tied their hands as they faced off in the 1992 Presidential election with neither mentioning Iran-Contra.

The Justice Departments of Reagan, Bush – and now Clinton – have orchestrated an ongoing cover-up of the Arkansas-CIA connection, which has gone undetected for eight years with Bill Clinton its major beneficiary. Clinton's reward for this Faustian pact? The White House."

And now, Bush 2 and Obama have a had a hand in covering up...how long can thus huge lump of filth hide under the rug?

Hugh G. Rection's picture

I pray that she has a small seizure in the debate, and loses the election. God would listen to that, wouldn't he?

Lockesmith's picture

COUGHING FIT 

PANTS OF SHIT

EVERY TIME SHE TELLS A LIE

POOP RUNS DOWN HER INNER THIGH

Lockesmith's picture

COUGHING FIT 

PANTS OF SHIT

EVERY TIME SHE TELLS A LIE

POOP RUNS DOWN HER INNER THIGH

CatsPaw's picture

Its interesting to watch tv in different countries. You can see the propaganda from both sides. Its almost like 5 year olds screaming "you lie" and the parent looking at them and knowing he will punish both. Only in this case, there is no parent.

SoDamnMad's picture

When you look at the news in Europe, so many are sick of the sanctions. The US is perceived to whip up the sanction thing while not suffering the effects of the reverse sanctions by Russian on dairy, fruits and vegetables. If sanctions are extended then Russian might just develop infrastructure to become self-sufficient in many areas while cultivating trade with countries who haven't joined the sanctions lot.  That leaves many European countries in the lurch since they are making up for lost trade out of internal budgets.  So farmers are blaming the US for unemployment - underemployment

More important is energy. Europeans are paying more for heat and electricity to become independant from cheap Russian gas.  And while Germany is getting a lot of gas from the North Stream line which could soon double with the seond line, the rest of Europe is mad at Germany for the double standard.  They link Germany's refugee problem (and the objection to taking a quota from Germany) with the special status it has given itself with the Nord Stream expansion.  

Hillary wants a war with Russia they hey, your on your own miss American president.

JailBanksters's picture

But think of all positives ...

She's going to increase manifacturing of Bullets, Missiles, Tanks, Fighter Jets.

All the Companies that supply parts to those Companies will also increase. And that also means more Jobs.

So Hillary has to be good for the economy by killing more people in other countries.

The USA is a War based economy, so Hillary has to be the best choice to fix the economy.

homonohumanus's picture

Stop thinking in capitalistic terms, if it goes worng the US is onthe wrong side ala 1984. USA policies will soon meet a hard stop. When I don't know but clearly Chinese and Russians will at some point whistle the end of the game. I suspect their population is a lot more ready than ours to face the consequences of a cod war, and the end of edonism.

Economy is not the power that rules the world, neeither are bankers. They can in some moments but when shit hits the fan, they are greater power at work. In the US lots of people confuse the bankers as almighty because the system is so corrupted and misslead.

JailBanksters's picture

The problem with Russia is, Putin has kicked the Rothschild's out, so they can't do the usual trick of Funding both sides of a War.

The Western World is controlled Central Banks and Bankers, and that's what's wrong with it.

Bankers love Wars, because Governments will increase debt at any cost and any amount to win.

Wars will create Jobs, Increase Manufactoring of Weapons and Increase Debt. It will work as long there is War, it's only a problem when the Wars come to an end. That is single reason why the US has been at war somewhere in the world ever year for the past 100 years.

The next target the Rothschild's want is Iran, it's not a threat to the USA, but a potential threat sometime in the future to Israel (a pre-crime) and the IMF another arm of the Rothschild's will steal their Gold and the Rothchild's will take over their Central Bank. Just a repeat of Libya.

 

WillyGroper's picture

krieger & his fear porn. click bait.

he can't be that dumb.

https://goo.gl/images/gf4PKk

https://goo.gl/images/VlbCjH

be afraid...be very afraid.

homonohumanus's picture

Is it now ommonly assumed that either the US, Russia or China wouldd flinch from using mass destruction weaponry?

There can be a world III as a cold war. There won't be a two sided cold war either. Actually this new cold war is alreaddy well engaged. The USA are the bad guy. They refuse the de facto end of their hegemony when Russia took back control of its affairs (without turning into a new USSR) and China turns into the main producing econmy world wide. One can also look at demography, it was a de facto change only questionnable trhough war. 
The USA elites corrupted to the bones decided to go pretty much all in. Russia and CHina are adapting to the possible disappearance of the US as a costumer. Soon enough, enough wwill be enough and a war will be officially declare, it is the west that will cut from its provider of "stuff""as exchange between those blocks RUSSIA+CHina and USA would stall. What will remain in the West will be a war economy, it smells a lot as in 1984, USA might end on the wrong side of the iron curtain...

Now that is not all, the USA elites may have gone a little too far in their greed to the point that they are no longer on top of their game in military either and that productive infrastrucutre in their country can't take a much greater load, elites may know hence a new iron curtain, whatever they are pillaging now the elites can use recreationally once the curtain up as it won't bind them, only people.

That leaves the 2 elements that could trigger a warm war, yet periperal to the three existing big blocks, the Middle East and Europe. the USA for the sake of the petro Dollars are playing another gae they can't win in the MIddle_East as if the strategy they are following succee it will temporarily help the US DOllars (+pillaging) but the result will be a the rising of a 4th block, a block which influence in Africa woud be tough to counter. It is a block that could have lot of reach contrary to Russia or China that a continental nations with no master plan outside a surrounding ssafety zone. It can also take part of Europe and reach to close from Russia. They have a "good" war demography with lot of young, if they can use the youth of black Africa it is even better.

The USA already started a new cold war, but in their madness they are also creating a mighty adversary which is not the ones the old guard in their administration may think about, an adversory at the center of the world, with manpower, a spiritual system and goal akin the UK/US (so global contrary ost European past power and Russia and CHina). We speak more and more about islamic suprematism. That power has the potential and training to fight even within the constrain of a multipolar cold war.

That is madness and Hillary or not it is already on-going. What wil happen to Europe and Israel is the USA elites fault and refusal of balance in power. The worst part is that USA if it gets wrose is a lot more vulnerable than what their elites thinks, they could get invaded by lot of latin american people, the inner tension could easily break loose, etc. Imho the elites are really going for a LOSE-lose proposal.

missionshk's picture

very well written

missionshk's picture

very well written

BritBob's picture

Brits don't much like Hillary...

 

Secretary Clinton on Falklands during press conference with Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Buenos Aires 2010 : 'As to the first point, we want very much to encourage both countries to sit down. Now, we cannot make either one do so, but we think it is the right way to proceed. So we will be saying this publicly, as I have been, and we will continue to encourage exactly the kind of discussion across the table that needs to take place .'

Now if she'd been well-briefed or done some independent research (she must employ staff to help her out) Hillary wouldn't have fallen for that usurpation (seriously half the world was usurped in the 19th century) and those numerous resolutions that are just proposals from the UN Decolonisation Committee, a committee made up of member states like Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and Syria. Hm. Should have done better...

 

https://www.academia.edu/21721198/Falklands_1833_Usurpation_and_UN_Resolutions

Pretty much common sense that occupants of a territory should be able to determine how and by whom they are governed. 

homonohumanus's picture

Well the UK has an advantage against the US, the Queen and all together the nobiliarity system that binds them to a longer term vision of History. They know that you make peace with your ennemies not friends. USA never make peace, they want to win it all including the unwinnable... They also know that there are up and down that is as long as you manage to remain in the game. THe US elites are inept, the overall policies are akin of that of king child though its parents (the world) are coming to an end with its behaviours. Such kids often punish themselves thinking  it affect others, though for a power the size of the US... you can expect a shit storm.

I strongly suspect that UK elites (City+highest level nobiliarity) is planning for a reversal of alliances if things comes to worst. I still remember a Farrge statement issue a couples hours before then end of the vote for the Brexit that was less than bullish on the subject of the outcome. Yet it got corrected by some people of its party, stating that the result are only decide when it is ower, etc. 
Ultimately supposedly the old people made the difference, a difference that it seems happened late at nght... In the UK, where the diner is @ 6pm, the old people went out voting late at night...

 

onmail1's picture

Insane like Nietzsche

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Friedrich_Nietzsche_drawn_by_Hans_Old...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/doctor-hillarys-abnormal-eye-mo...

Nietzsche was guru of Nazis

and illary(or Killary) also thinks like that

(we came we saw he died hah ha)

probably Bill gave her Syphillis that is eating her brain 

leading to insanity

insanity to wipe out , snuff out the whole world

with Nuclear World War 3

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Dont stay in cities 

go to suburbs at least 50 km away from city

where the danger is less

ensure emergency supplies 

store a lot of gold & silver

becuz paper currency , banks & ATMs will be useless

if possible grow ur own food & poultry

(Chinese, ur dogs & puppies will be very useful - to eat hah ha) 

keep some gun to keep away zombies , cannibals & wild animals

Volaille de Bresse's picture

"Nietzsche was guru of Nazis'

 

That's BS. Nietszche would have ended in a concentration camp. Fact is Elisabeth Förster (her sister) was a fierce Nazi and she bent some of Freddie's philosophical heritage into a "Hitler-compatible" sludge.

Dr. Bonzo's picture

Michele Flournoy, the former Defense Department official whom Defense One calls “the woman expected to run the Pentagon under Hillary Clinton,” this week advocated for “sending more American troops into combat against ISIS and the Assad regime than the Obama administration has been willing to commit.”

Obviously based on her extensive in-depth study of recent US military successes in the Mideast. Yeah, she's qualified.

dogismycopilot's picture

US Russian relations are WORSE than during the Cold War.

1. Today, 80% of all Russian people hate the US Government. During the Cold War, and certainly in the 1980s, at least 50% of Russians wanted to be American. In the 1990s 90% of Russians wanted to be American.

2. During the Cold War the American Presidents never made personal insults at the Russian/Soviet leaders as Obama and Hillary and DOS do now out in public. Back then the phrase, "Nothing personal, it's just business" meant something. Now, it is all about emotion and emotion leads to reaction and reaction leads to war.

3. In every century new weapons of mass destruction are invented. During war, these new weapons are eventually rolled out and then become common. (Depleted Uranium as an example.) Ask yourself, do you think the human race will go 100 years at its current pace without using a nuclear weapon

4. Tactical nuclear weapons. This is the same as, "Just let me put the tip in."

5. Increased liklihood for accidents. Let's say some Turkish Army Officer Jacks a US nuclear bomb, floats it where ever, blows up some Russians (even as a dirty bomb). The Americans are so fucking hateful that do you really think the Russians would believe it was an accident?

Unless the Human Race has some great spiritual awakening really fucking soon, I would say that Nuclear War is our destiny as sure as anything. 

 

onmail1's picture

Spiritual awakening

The Force is within you

only a step away

a step within

self

Hillarys Server's picture

I'm worried about two things.

First, the pain, heartbreak, tears, sadness and death of men, women and children in the Middle East and maybe in the World War 3 that Hillary will bring.

And second, the payback my Hillary-supporting friends and loved ones will eventually receive if they vote for her.

If you give hell, fear, despair and finally death to a child, the universe is so interconnected I'm afraid their support of that will come back to them.

Even if just in the form of remorse on their deathbed for the sadness they've caused.

So this is my prayer:

"Hillary, please go full Linda Blair at Monday's debate. May your head turn 360 degrees upon your neck, may you blaspheme the Holy Spirit backwards in Latin and grunt to Trump in your hoarse reptilian voice "Your mother is in hell". May you abuse yourself with a crucifix. May you lift your hairline slightly and show the three numerals you were branded with by the jackal who bore you, six six six. And finally and most importantly, may your bowels spew out a powerful stream of sinful, evil, putrid green vomit onto the camera lens of the lying whore of Satan CNN with some vomit droplets also falling onto your two handmaiden dog of hell, Anderson Cooper (puke be upon him) and Don Lemon (pbuh), who sit at attention day and night at the foot of your murderous, whoreful bedstand."

Hillarys Server's picture

Thanks, The Chief! I'm not overly religious but I wrote it just now in a trance tapping one finger on my iPhone. It really comes from my heart. I'm so afraid for the world. I can't for the life of me understand how people could vote for an obvious she-devil who has a track record of pain, sadness, death and blood. And then giggles after Qaddafi was sodomized with a sword. Lord God, allow Satan to take her back to Hell now. Please just give your word. The world is waiting. Please act just this once. Please uncover her mask for everyone to see.

Infield_Fly's picture
Infield_Fly (not verified) Sep 23, 2016 6:40 AM

Hillary will be lucky to leave the debates on Monday standing up.

 

Trump smells blood and he's going to do his best to tap Hillary's buttons until she explodes.

 

Hillary is unable to handle any pressure - and Trump knows this.

 

May you die on stage Hillary you nasty piece of shit!!!

GreatUncle's picture

"Even if just in the form of remorse on their deathbed for the sadness they've caused."

Nope,it will not be enough this time, it will be everything they love and cherish turned to dust... Too many idiots on the planet who want to believe in those that lead us.

jpc578's picture

But we will conveniently ignore the fact that Trump will likely start WW3 should someone make fun of his spray tan.

ZH writers and readers are literally abandonig every principle that they claimed to hold by their support of Trump.

Nunyadambizness's picture

After reading the article you state that "...Trump will likely start WW3..."  ??  Did you even READ the article?  Please state your specific reasons for your allegation, and provide support if you can, in the same manner the author did for Hitlary.  Otherwise, I'll just presume you to be a troll for Hitlary and not worth paying attention to.

Oh, by the way--they said the same thing of Reagan.  (Just sayin')

jpc578's picture

Have you heard or read anything Trump said during the campaign? Have you been paying attention?

Donald Trump is no Reagan. Reagan had integrity, understood the issues and wasn't a bigot.

https://youtu.be/fAtYMD-H2UY

Trump is more like Woodrow Wilson.

shutterbug's picture

you are just another moron who votes for people like The Clintons or Burning Bernie, who talks and then runs.

A walking zombie who is hooked, line and sinker by PR people.