Caught On Tape: Did The US Target Syrian Aid Convoy With Hellfire Missile?

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Signs Of The Times blog,

Hellfire Signature?

Footage of the nighttime attack on the Syrian aid convoy in Aleppo has surfaced. But there's something curious about how the footage has been appearing on Western news reports. A commenter on the Moon of Alabama blog, PavewayIV, made the following observations about what appears in the video, and what it suggests. First, however, here's an unedited version of the blast, courtesy of ABC:

 

In the screen cap above, you can see what looks to be a cloud of sparks following an initial explosion. According to PavewayIV, this is a signature of the Metal-Augmented Charge (MAC) Hellfire AGM-114N, the Predator drone's typical payload.

The fiery cloud is produced by the residue of the fine-mesh fluorinated aluminum particles (the "metal augmentation"). Aside from the ABC footage, most other networks have shown edited versions that make this signature difficult to detect.

For example, here's AP's version:

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Shakey-cam added for jihadi-vision effect? Why would they do this?

Thermobaric Hellfire air-blasts don't leave craters, and they typically start fires. No craters are visible in footage of the burned convoy.

The Russians have thermobaric bombs, too, according to PavewayIV, but they use different particles and their blast patterns are different: either no "sparkles" or long-duration "sparkles", not the fast-duration flash as seen in the video of the Aleppo blast.

As we reported yesterday, the Russians detected a Predator drone which took off from Incirlik airbase in Syria, flew to the precise location of the convoy, arrived before the strike, stayed for a while, then left after the damage was done.

Surely just a coincidence...

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gregga777's picture

"To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname a humanitarian mission; and where they make a wilderness, they call it Pax Americana."

• Vietnam
• Bosnia
• Afghanistan
• Iraq
• Libya
• Syria

How many did I miss?

Mazzy's picture

Pax Americana is simply the flower of this evil.

Money is not the root of it, but money is it's stem.

The root, of course, is zionism.

0b1knob's picture

The sparks are caused by the deadly THERMOBARIC COOKIES that are the main payload of the VicNuLand warhead.

oops's picture

The NEOCONS want Assad gone. He's no good for Israel.

W Bush: "Dad, what's a neocon?"
HW Bush: "You want names or description?"
W: "Description."
HW : "Israel."

http://goo.gl/l6d22d

Oracle of Kypseli's picture

Correct the portion of incirlic airbase being in Syria so you do not lose credibility. It's in Turkey.

Latina Lover's picture

Paveway IV's post from Moonoveralabama.org:

First, an article in a similar vein (the title explains it all) by Alexander Mercouris on TheDuran: Making up the news: How the Western media misreported the Syrian convoy attack. I'm not familiar with TheDuran but the article is informative and well-written like the ones produced here by b.

Second, the blessing/curse of being ex-military is sounding like a nut to most of you when I bring up these minute details that I think are terribly significant. Given that, take this for what it's worth:

There are several variations of the Hellfire missile fired from U.S. drones like the Predator. As evidenced by vidoes of Hellfire strikes beginning with the Iraqi war, one very popular flavor seems to be the AGM-114N variant. It contains a pretty energetic PBX-112 explosive charge surrounded by a layer of metal particles. Fine-mesh fluorinated aluminum in case you were curious. Without getting into the physics of it all, I'll just say that this design came out of research to produce a 'better' fuel-air explosive.

The Metal-Augmented Charge (MAC) Hellfire AGM-114N belongs to the thermobaric category of weapons - ones designed to kill/destroy by an extended blast overpressure wave rather than conventional explosive's overpressure spike. A secondary effect of a MAC/thermobaric weapon's hotter, longer-duration blast wave is that it's more likely to set things on fire than a conventional explosive. Not as much as a incendiary-purpose weapon, but more so than conventional explosives.

Isn't killing people efficiently by more clever designs fascinating? It is to Lockheed-Martin shareholders, but I digress. At any rate, plenty of info out there on the AGM-114N and theromobarics if you're interested.

Now, the MAC-enhanced blast of the U.S. Hellfire missiles produces an interesting visual effect at night. After the decay of an intensely-bright and well-consolidated blast flash, you can see what look like little sparkles at the edge of the receding explosion. The sparkles are residue of the burnt fluorinated aluminum that undergo a secondary burning, of sorts. It's very distinctive once you notice it. The Russians have thermobaric bombs as well, but they are of a different design and the blast usually looks different - non-existent sparkles because of a micronized metal powder, or long-duration sparkles on very large charges for whatever reason.

So (sorry, TL:DR already) I notice that many of the MSM-replays of the supposed rebel convoy attack video was edited in a particular way to mask what is plainly (to me) a MAC blast. The BBC reports are a good example. Their version is enlarged, shaky and blurry consistent with the poor head-chopper production standards. But it is an edited version of the much clearer original video. ABC must have produced their report before the censorship memo went out. If you look at only the first second of this ABC video and try to pause it during the blast, you can see a few frames with the visual effect I'm talking about.

So what am I yammering about that has any relevance here? This: If this video was shown to me outside the context of the convoy attack, I would guess it was a Hellfire strike somewhere. Now we hear from Russia that a Predator drone (typically Hellfire-armed) was loitering around the 'bombed convoy' area immediately before and after the attack. An attack that produced no crater (typical of the air-blast of a thermobaric Hellfire) and numerous fires (also more likely from a thermobaric Hellfire). Then I see the curiously-edited video on most MSM seemingly intended to obscure the signature blast of a thermobaric Hellfire. [adjusts tin-foil hat] I think you know where I'm going here.

Just to set the stage for the next chapter of lies, CENTCOM or the U.S. DoD will undoubtedly deny that a U.S. drone attacked the convoy (not that any journalist will bother asking). AS we saw in the SAA/Deir EzZor attack though, it's not necessarily a U.S. aircraft. The U.S. can deny responsibility if needed because 1) any of a number of 'coalition partners' have Hellfire-armed Predators violating Syrian airspace every day, and 2) all Predators of coalition partners are not necessarily under the command of their military or the CJTF-OIR coalition. The CIA, for instance, has plenty of armed drones in the Middle East. Not that these potential loopholes will be needed or used - the U.S. isn't bashful about flinging outright lies when convenient and difficult to disprove.

This isn't offered as any kind of proof the U.S. did it - it's just reasonable speculation. I'm sure our inquisitive and unbiased investigative journalists in the press will get to the bottom of this in no time.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 21, 2016 4:49:44 PM | 45

FrankDrakman's picture

Didn't Paveway used to post here? Did he get banned? Or did he just get bored?

OverTheHedge's picture

There was a flurry of posts a while ago suggesting that he was banned, which is a major loss tome: I relied on Paveway and Jack Burton to find out what was REALLY going on in the middle east. Jack seems to be on another of his extended breaks (I think he has an "interesting" job), but I hope that he will be back with another attractive young lady to show us. Paveway is posting at Moon of Alabama, so hang out there too - not so much material as here, but always worth the read, as here as much for the comments as for the article itself.

Should we set up a crowdfunding campaign? Free Paveway (and Francis)?

Edit: having read more of the posts now, lots of other people have things to say about Paveway, all of it good. They were here first: I just won on the "get your post to the top" game, so I could get some kudos for that, I suppose.....

auricle's picture

I call bullshit. The ods of the US doing a drone strike are like...Nevermind. 

CuttingEdge's picture

Spot on about Pave IV (and Burton), OTH. He is sorely missed by myself for one.

Probably the best ME analysis i have seen anywhere. Will assuredly bookmark the Alabamy site for regular accurate info.

 

johngaltfla's picture

If anyone is shocked that we did this to promote the false flag narrative, then they have not been paying attention the last 20 years.

Took Red Pill's picture

The US may be ranked 28th overall, but we're number 1 in waging war!

THE SOLUTION IS DEBT FREE MONEY CREATION's picture

Israel is number 1 in war and murder...the USA is just the current attack dog...getting fat and old, ready for retirement (shot gun in the out house).

X_in_Sweden's picture

Paveway IV was banned on the 24th of May after a thread concerning Iran.

Cheers X-

 

fleur de lis's picture

What did he write that was so offensive?

X_in_Sweden's picture

look at comment #237 at the original Moon of Alabama article

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-the-aid-convoy-attack-points-...

That should explain it for you fleur de lis.

;)  X-

Socratic Dog's picture

This banning shit is getting real old here.  It's not the mindlessly racist, anti-semite, anti-safe-spacers who get banned, its the truth tellers, the ones with real insight and often real info you can't get anywhere else, the ones who I truly learned something from.  Why the fuck was Paveway banned?  He was level-headed, insightful, smart, and he knew shit, important shit, most of us don't.

The Hedge is destroying itself by banning these guys.  I can't but think it intentional.  I've long thought the Hedge dances to the same tune as the MSM.  Witness the years of refusal to post anything questioning the mainstream 9/11 narrative, only recently broken, and that to push the new, improved mainstream narrative, it wuz the Saudis.  And the Ebola panic, just like the MSM the Hedge went from saturation coverage to zero, literally overnight.

New_Meat's picture

good BDA.  Not too much "inside baseball" for those who want to understand the "sanitizing" of the MSM.  Is it a conspiracy when the editing is so obvious?  Or is it "Polish" troops "raping" German nuns?

- Ned

jm's picture

As if the Duran is any less biased, if not more.

Grimaldus's picture

Obirdbrain ordered that airstrike and all the rest of them for the past eight years. This is a progressive owned shit show.

Why point fingers at the Bush republican RINO traitor progressives when they are so long out of power?

Is it that you must protect the magic muslim mulatto obirdbrain and the bloody progressive Hillary Clinton destroyer of nations brand?

Get over it pal, embrace the progressive suck. The bloodiest of the bloody.

The only person close to being a true constitutional conservative in the last 100+ years was Ron Paul. The US FEDGOV is a 100% Constitutional violation resembling nothing of the law the way it was written. Usurped by progressive criminals.

The PROGRESSIVE CRIMINAL USURPERS infest the US FEDGOV want Assad gone.

Duh.

The progressive propaganda stupid, it burns.

 

 

 

 

 

Grimaldus

TheReplacement's picture

1.  Not defending Oblamer at all.

2.  What makes you think the people who did this need a President to order this action in the first place?

 

AllBentOutOfShape's picture

And Syria and Russia finally said enough is enough.  The take back of Aleppo is now underway.

ALL OUT FIGHT FOR ALEPPO BEGINS - SAA Major Offensive

http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/breaking-all-out-fight-for-aleppo.html

NoDebt's picture

Just my point of view here, but if you think you have the requisite techincal experience to figure this out on that level, be my guest.  EVEYTHING is a lie these days.  Even if the events are true, the explanation of the events will be a lie.

Trust NOTHING.  Trust NOBODY.  We live in the greatest era of preception management in the history of mankind.  

If you claim to know what's happening in the ME, you are wrong (or lying).  There are a million reasons to paint this incicent as the fault of the US and a million reasons to paint this incident as the fault of the Russians.  Good luck unscrambling that egg.

Only one thing is clear:  the most recent Obama/Kerry-negotiated cease fire is dead (as predicted, just another in a long line of failed cease-fires).  Why and by whom, we will probably never know for sure.  But it's dead and not by accident.

 

Kaeako's picture

Who did it is irrelevant to most people. The point is to make it look like the other guy and that's that. As for the ceasefires, both sides(USA, Russia) seem to have the same objective in these: to make it look like the other guy never had the intention of respecting it in the first place.

Save_America1st's picture

night time missile strike but we're supposed to believe the "main stream media" musloid that it was Assad or the Russians who killed "Christians", cuz he's some kind of expert right?  LOL

My money is always going to be on the CIA who does this kind of shit or whoever the CIA supplies like their black-ops scumbag mercs that supplied "somebody" with that type of missile.

 

conscious being's picture

SA1, it was a Hellfire missle, from the USA of ISIS drone. From the article -

As we reported yesterday, the Russians detected a Predator drone which took off from Incirlik airbase in Syria, flew to the precise location of the convoy, arrived before the strike, stayed for a while, then left after the damage was done.

rahrog's picture

You left out the part about america starting the war.

greenskeeper carl's picture

@Nodebt, wasn't there a guy who went by 'PavewayIV' or something similar here a while back? I don't remember the exact screen name, but it was definitely paveway something. Didn't even realize it until I read this, but he hasn't been here in a really long time. Like, a year or so at least, and he used ot coment all the time. Not that it really has relevance to this, just an honorable mention to another former long time ZHer. He may still be here under another screen name, though. Some people are more original than me and come up with an entirely new one after being banned.

 

As far as the rest of your post, what he says seems to be technically correct about thermobarics. Im no expert on that subject, its just something I thought was interesting and spent a while reading up on, but he is correct about the blast craters. Part of the appeal of DIME munitions, and part of what makes them so useful especailly against enemies in caves, is that they don't direct most of their energy into the ground like a traditional aerial bomb, but detonate above it, and spread their damage outwards. That they use the air around them as the oxydizer makes them pack a lot of power into a small package.

conscious being's picture

Not a year ago. Paveway IVs last post was on 5/24/2016. You can still read what he has to say at moonofalabama.org.

I bet he appreciates seeing a ZH article based on his insightful post.

Thanks ZH for picking up on this.

NoDebt's picture

Yeah, Paveway IV went dark a while ago.  I have military/intel in the family so I'll ask them what they think of these photos.  Regardless of the answer, nothing would surprise me any more.  Our allies one minute are our friends the next and vice versa.  Just the incredible instability and changing alliances of everything in the ME is, all at once, nothing new and incemprehensible at the same time.

A PRIME location to make a case and prove it by your own hand, all at the same time, by those who capitalize and enrich themselves on chaos.

 

Freddie's picture

Paveway IV as mentioned post regularly on Moon of Alabma web site.   He says he is not ex military taht he just searches around and reads a lot.  He really knows his stuff.

The Total corruption of the American govt is sickening.  Putin kicked Soros and his NGOs out of Russia years ago.  It is shame someone did not do more like the US Military who is supposed to uphold The Constitution.  A laugh.  Instead they murder innocents for the elites and ZWO.

TeaClipper's picture

"Second, the blessing/curse of being ex-military is sounding like a nut to most of you when I bring up these minute details that I think are terribly significant. Given that, take this for what it's worth:"

The above quote from Paveway IV article on Moon of Alabama.

Tell me where in that statement Paveway IV is telling us he is NOT ex military?

BarkingCat's picture

The only pertinent question is who is there as an "uninvited guest"???

newbie vampire's picture

"The only pertinent question is who is there as an "uninvited guest"???"

Probably a patriot flying a drone which just happened to be on the scene.  Just minding his own business.

FORWARD for the Glory of the Imperium and the 1%.

newdoobie's picture

I'm no expert but I lived in Turkey for several years working with NATO and Turkish AF. Paveway IV always got the news about Turkey right on.

New_Meat's picture

NoDebt:

"Our allies one minute are our friends the next and vice versa."

If only we were that responsible.

- Ned

Billy the Poet's picture

You're like the chick who ferreted out Stone Tear. But she was cuter.

HedgeJunkie's picture

Those of us who are long-timers and come back, after a ban, try to keep our heads down.

Except when we're really pissed: actually and alcoholically.

Drunken rants have a manner of getting one banned.  Even if correct, spelled right, and plain-spoken.

What our ZH editors and our goobermint fear are those that are sober, thoughful and coherent.  Sober (and the rest) we are the force that will take them out.

They know it, we know it, and we're waiting to do it at the most opportune time knowing that they know that. too.

TeaClipper's picture

Paveway IV

Last post as has been said, 24th May 2016

abyssinian's picture

Obama said he only find out about this on CNBC right after he played 36 holes of great golf! He has no clue what is going on, but pretty sure the Russians did it!  

 

 

conscious being's picture

Paveway rides again! Great move ZH to follow this very articulate, well informed, [former] ZH poster.

He made a telling observation on the USA / ISIS AirForce bombing of Syrian soldiers near Deir al-Zor airport -

Four planes involved. Two F16s and two A10s. According to Paveway, the A10s only operate with JTACs on the ground, directing the attack. The sorry and sad implication being that US special forces, imbedded with ISIS, directed the "accidental" criminal attack.

gregga777's picture

You are really missing most of the major players with your fixation on Jews and Zionism.