This Is What Trump Should Do In The Second Debate

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Last night's debate has sparked a tsunami of conversations over who won, who looked more presidential, who coughed more, and who had bigger hands. What is more useful, however, is what can the candidates learn from this debate. Here are three readers' comments that summed up perfectly what trump should do in the second debate.

"The_Dude" was disappointed but had some useful questions for Trump to ask...

Do your homework Donald!  This isn't a game...


Does this guy prep at all or is he trying to throw it?


Question: Internet play into her hand discussing Russia and you don't fucking mention her server.


Question: Policing...she talks "training" cops...and you don't raise the issue of Fed overreach into local police forces?


Question: Iran..took him 3/4 if his time before mentioning $150B that will be used to build them nukes?


Question: Your taxes...hmm...I can show mine. about we discuss the taxes of the Clinton Foundation and misappropriation?


Question: Your business bankruptcy...shit happens, let's talk about how this cunt made $150M without even having a business.


I could go on and on. ..WTF!!!!!!!!!


PS...Donald. next time Lester says anything outside of a question,  point out to him that it is not his fucking job.

But "VinceFostersGhost" offers a less aggressive suggestion of what the Trump casmpaign should do between now and the next debate...

Fuck all these skewed polls. The debate didn't matter, and it didn't change anyone's mind. That said, Hillary was well prepared for Trump, while Trump performed as if didn't prepare at all. Hillary kept Trump on the defensive all night long. Trump defends his ego against anything that makes him look small, and Hillary used that character flaw against him.


Trump should have been hammering the Clintons (that's right, Hillary and Bill) on putting Wall Street in change of America's economy, but he spent far too much time defending himself, so he didn't get that message out. Bernie Sanders proved that going after Hillary's being in Goldman Sachs' pocket was the most effective way to keep her on the ropes. When Sanders let up on those Wall Street attacks, his campaign, that had been succeeding against all the odds, crashed and burned.


Trump needs to paint the Clintons as the tag team that gave the country away to the banksters, and forced 76% of Americans into living a paycheck to paycheck lives. The Clintons allowed the banksters to steal not just the interest on our savings, but our savings in total, our pensions, our homes, our futures, and our children's children's futures. Proving this should not be difficult for Trump to do, if he would just spend more time exposing the Wall Street criminals, that own the Clintons, and less time defending his ego.

But "sessinpo" sees the endgame...

The country is already lost. The simple fact is we have a national debt that is unrepayable and no potus can change that.


Even if every current politician were removed, the FRB system were audited and changed, it would not change the fact we have an unrepayable debt and based upon that, a doomed us dollar. So many would agree that thrid world status is inevitable for this nation yet they still think trump can change that. That is not an awake person. That is a person frustrated and desperate. Some are just wanting trump for spite, to get those corrupt people that have destroyed this nation and I understand that. I want them punished too.


But if you are awake, you know where america is heading and you have been preparing no matter who is potus.

GOP republicans, unhappy with Trump's lack of preparedness, quipped what Trump should have hammered Hillary on, courtesy of The HIll:

“Trump got off to a good start, but it was obvious he wasn't prepared,” one House Republican who publicly supports Trump told The Hill. “His performance was scattered. He didn't drive home [questions about Clinton’s] honesty and missed great opportunities.”


“He only mentioned her email scandal once,” the GOP lawmaker lamented.


“There is no better question to be able to pivot on when she completely failed on her own cybersecurity when she was secretary of State,” added Rep. Rodney Davis (R-Ill.). Davis, who backed Trump after he won the nomination, said the businessman should have done a better job prosecuting foreign policy failures that occurred while her husband, Bill Clinton, was president and while she was running the State Department.


If Hillary Clinton is trying to own the successes of the Bill Clinton presidency, she’s gonna have to own the failures," Davis said. "And a complete failure was negotiating with North Korea.”


“Those are two points I think [Trump] could have hit and he didn’t,” Davis continued. “And I think he took things a little too personal and missed a lot of opportunities to make very good debate points that could have scored him much higher in the eyes of the American public.” 


“I wish that he’d say something, stick with it, and then move on to something else instead of saying the same thing over and over and over,” Salmon said in an interview Tuesday without giving specific examples. “It was just throughout the entire debate.”


Speaker Paul Ryan who has denounced Trump’s comments on Muslims, Mexicans and white supremacists, argued that Trump “met expectations” and gave a “spirited argument” against Democrats’ tired policies.


Other Republicans on Capitol Hill argued that their constituents had crowned Trump the winner of Monday’s 90-minute debate, regardless of what Beltway pundits were saying. “Most of my constituents have said that Trump won based solely on one recurring theme: ‘You have been there for 30 years and nothing has changed,’ ” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a member of the ultraconservative Freedom Caucus, told The Hill. “It expressed their frustration with nothing but talk occurring in Washington, D.C."

Then there was FBR analyst Benjamin Salibury who points out that while birtherism was closely covered last night, key topics were notably missing from the debate:

Mr. Trump questioned the independence of the Federal Reserve in last night’s debate, but did seem to support a “low for longer” interest rate environment. We have argued that a Clinton presidency would allow more consistency among the Fed's leadership, allowing it to continue accommodative monetary policy—and viewed as more positive by the market...The debate was almost as notable for what was not covered as for what was covered: Healthcare, immigration, veterans, labor, and homeland security were not mentioned in any meaningful way.

If you have your own opinions of what you would ask the candidates...


Finally we leave it to Dilbert creator Scott Adams, who notes that the most interesting question has to do with what problem both of them were trying to solve with the debate.

Clinton tried to look healthy, and as I mentioned, I don’t think she completely succeeded.


But Trump needed to solve exactly one problem: Look less scary. Trump needed to counter Clinton’s successful branding of him as having a bad temperament to the point of being dangerous to the country. Trump accomplished exactly that…by…losing the debate.


Trump was defensive, and debated poorly at points, but he did not look crazy. And pundits noticed that he intentionally avoided using his strongest attacks regarding Bill Clinton’s scandals. In other words, he showed control. He stayed in the presidential zone under pressure. And in so doing, he solved for his only remaining problem. He looked safer.


By tomorrow, no one will remember what either of them said during the debate. But we will remember how they made us feel.


Clinton won the debate last night. And while she was doing it, Trump won the election. He had one thing to accomplish – being less scary – and he did it.


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ParkAveFlasher's picture

What should he do?  PILE DRIVER!!!!

roxyNL's picture


Trump will just be another neo-con alt-right deception like bush jr was.

He is (((controlled opposition))) under aipac rule. he gets his orders from there.



ParkAveFlasher's picture

Throw her against the turnbuckle and ram his knee into her groin

Barnaby's picture

Watch out, her years of Iranian dealings have her well-versed in reversals. Plus the Camel Clutch.

nyse's picture

Is he saying she should lay on her neck and shoulders with her hips up and he should squat and thrust into her from above? Not really appropriate for a debate but maybe youre right - might be time to think outside the box (or inside in this case)

Barnaby's picture

In that position her vag-strength is enough to crush a man's spine.

ZeroIntelligence's picture

Way to go Vince getting the shoutout!  I read that comment this morning and wanted to send it to DJT

mtl4's picture

"The country is already lost. The simple fact is we have a national debt that is unrepayable and no potus can change that."

This is absolute rubbish and Trump knows all too well how this works as does any billionaire.  The key to maintining wealth is to have others foot the bill.  In the case of the debt he's said many times he would restructure the debt (aka bond holders get a haircut).  Yes, the long term prospects for the dollar may not be as bright from a purely logical perspective but as a world investor look at your alternatives?! Yen? Euro? Yuan? No, the US remains in a very strong position to continue and it may even end up the dollar being too strong that causes it's demise.

tmosley's picture

Here we have a lot of advice on how to play 2D chess when Trump is playing 4D chess.

The question is not which pieces to play, but WHEN to play them.

It's the same in warfare. You don't expend all your ammunition on the first day. Shock and Awe sounds great, but once it's over, there is nothing left but a slog. Better to take your time, position your peices, establish yourself as the calm, in control candidate people fear that you aren't, THEN hit her hard with all the corruption stuff.

The last debate is when I expect that to happen.

38BWD22's picture




But, I would feel a little better if he attacked her at least some now.  Never know what will happen in the future.

Same comments for Assange and WikiLeaks.  Now is a good time to let a little more out.  Drip, drip, drip.  Then pow!

Manthong's picture

Well, F me…

Trump has forgotten more about dealing with scheming weasels than most any of us will ever know.

The debates.. just a short series of meetings.

And if you do not think that he has lowered her bar and set her up, you will likely be in for big surprise.

WordSmith2013's picture
PROOF: Debate Rigged to Favor Clinton, Process Fixed Against Trump—->DARPA Tech Used?!



Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

~"And if you do not think that he has lowered her bar and set her up, you will likely be in for big surprise."~

I think you're dead on, Manthong. He doesn't want to spook her from the next two debates. He really needs her to hang in there so the dems do not have time to prop someone else up when she gets hammered down. Trump can eat her lunch and make her pay for it.

Note: He was very diplomatic and called her "Madam Secretary" the whole evening. She condescendingly called him by his first name.

Even though she looked like she won the debate, as Adams points out, Trump killed it in the polls, which reflect whom people like, not who won the debate. I'm sure Hillary is again wondering why she isn't up 50 percent.

crossroaddemon's picture

I think you guys are rationalizing. You're not seeing because you don't want to see even though last night should have made it painfully obvious. Trump is working the other side of the street.

Manthong's picture

Maybe so.. we shall see.

I just cannot believe that he would leave so many things untouched without something devious up his sleeve.

Crush the cube's picture

If he could have, he would have.  Stop pussy footing around already.  He is suppose to be the outsider, not happening playing by an insider game.  Me thinks he has noting else, never did, and he just proved it. 

bdc63's picture

trump shat the bed last night.  so, he should REALLY try hard not to do that again. 

what a missed opportunity. *sigh*

JRobby's picture

People tuned in to watch Hillary get called out on ALL OF IT and there is alot. Emails, Foundation, Lybia, etc., etc.

Sad group of comments north of here.

Million Dollar Bonehead's picture

Here's what Trump should do: vomit in a bucket, then drown himself in the same bucket. All Hail President Dear Leader Hillary!!

DrBrown's picture

Hey Dick Head why do you even bother to post here. Everyone hates you. How about you post us a picture to we have something to throw shit at.

rosiescenario's picture

You offer the only logical explanation of why he held back on several occasions when he could have nailed her.


We will also find out before the last debate just what WikiLeaks has up its sleeve.

beemasters's picture

"By tomorrow, no one will remember what either of them said during the debate."

What debate?

LibertarianMenace's picture

Trump knows Vince McMahon very well. So far, his whole campaign has played like a match in the WWE(F). The good guy usually takes a beating - at first.

For Assange, it's beginning to look like the Hoods have successfully muzzled him. The Octopus must have made a phone call.

sleigher's picture

"The last debate is when I expect that to happen."

2nd Debate.  He even alluded to it.  He played the calm/collected card in the first.  2nd debate the gloves come off.  If not then we are being played.

Paul Kersey's picture

Interesting, that second post, that you listed as being posted by "VinceFostersGhost", was actually my post. Keep it up, Tylers, and I'll get Lester to check your facts. But in all seriousness, I just want to add the following to my original post.

After winning the primary, Donald got a great start on Clinton, when he named her "crooked Hillary", but somewhere along the line, he dropped the name and the theme, of her crooked dealing, along with it. Hillary has a long history of crooked deals, starting with her cattle futures deal and the Whitewater controversy, and going all the way to selling influence through the "pay-for-play" Clinton Family Foundation. Trump, instead of defending himself against his history of off-the-cuff remarks, needs to go on offense and needs to force Hillary to account for the more than $180 million that her owners stuffed into the her and Bogus Billy's bank accounts. And "believe me", Donald, there are still plenty of Americans that still want to see transcripts of those 20 minute speeches that Goldman Sachs paid crooked Hillary $450,000 to deliver?

In summation, Trump needs to get off defense and go on offence against "Crooked Hillary". Trump will never get the black vote, but he may be able to discourage blacks from going out to vote for a major league crook. Donald must get off the ropes and make Hillary account for her criminal deeds. Then it will be her turn on the ropes, and she will be too busy blocking incoming punches to be in a position to play rope-a-dope.

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mountain99889 (not verified) Paul Kersey Sep 27, 2016 6:31 PM

Trump is going to have 8 years to go on the offensive. He'll use the internet, bypassing the hostile Jew media and all it's ethnic puppets like Lester Holt. The Jews are throwing a tantrum, they thought that there would be never be once more a white male President, that all future Presidents would be ethnic puppets, or pro-Israel females like Hillary.

random999's picture

Golden hint to Donald next time they talk about him not paying taxes:

"That is why the tax cut will benifit small businesses and not rich people like me"

SilverRhino's picture

Amazing.   You're like the only other dude who's thinking strategically as well.  


Scuba Steve's picture

What I was saying last night.

It was the first 3 Innings and he is behind a few runs but I think he has some guys off the bench and his Closer is an Ace :)

I'm thinking he brings 7 kinds of hell and He may have her crying by the end of the 3rd debate.

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Chris Dakota (not verified) tmosley Sep 27, 2016 4:20 PM

ADL adds Pepe the Frog to hate symbol database.

(((they're))) panicking!


thinkmoretalkless's picture

I have learned not to under estimate Trump. I watched him throughout the primaries and concede now his success demonstrates he is smarter than me. Romney wiped the floor with BO in the first debate in 2012 and it was forgotten by the third debate. Trump has a strategy I haven't quite figured out completely. One thing he does is get your attention something the MSM should recognize but don't. He then back and fills his support with a lot of campaigning and establishing his positions. The polls say it's working and I think the first debate was as planned. He is way ahead of the media, pundits and the establishment.

ThirteenthFloor's picture

That assumes she shows for three debates. I can see weird things where a third debate vanishes...then what ? What's Plan b ?

Clashfan's picture

Ha, sounds like that moment I kept waiting for when Ali fought Holmes.

Never happened, though.

Lemme know when it does. Or when Assange releases that megadump he's been holding.

Meanshile, Hitlery's headed for the oval office.

conraddobler's picture

I agree the country is not lost because of money, you can leverage the dominant financial position on earth and 5000 nukes to get a sweet deal but that will never happen because....

Our politicians are bought off and our entire system of government is bought off through the private issuance of debt and thus control over all credit.

That means that no one person has a prayer against all this except a dictator and good luck getting them to give it all back after they clean house.

It's over because this thing is following a time tested  tragectory of empire collapse.

Our empire of the dollar is collapsing. 

We no longer believe at our core in the same things that bind us.

People don't care about freedom, they care about money, so most will have neither.

People don't care about liberty, they care about safety so most with have neither.

It's because we have been conquered by sloth and degradation in our core values that this is hopeless.



shovelhead's picture

Sounds seriously depressing.

I believe that I share a core value with many other of my fellow Americans. That is the sincere desire to be left alone to pursue my own interests and the willingness to extend the same courtesy to likeminded individuals.

The rest of them?

Fuck em. I couldn't care less what they want. They're the problem and there will never be any useful common ground between us.

PrayingMantis's picture



... here's some hints for Mr. T

...  >>> The Countless Crimes of Hillary Clinton: Special Prosecutor Needed Now >>> 

pods's picture

If that quote is rubbish then please explain to me how you solve that little problem that our money supply has, namely the exponential nature of it.

The national debt is unrepayable PRECISELY because it functions our money supply.  Pay off the debt, see deflation destroy the money system.


CheapBastard's picture

How much did they pay lester not to ask Crooked Hillary any honest questions?

sleigher's picture

Those Federal Reserve "Notes" exist AS debt!  The benefit as it were.  We get to use worthless paper notes to exchange for real goods and services.    But they are loaned into existence at interest.

hxc's picture

Just because each dollar is assigned US treasury debt doesn't mean that dollars are debt. They are owed debt on, but saying the dollar is "debt based" is like saying your house with an underwater mortage "is debt." No, it's a house, just has debt associated with it.

pods's picture

A quick search of "the mandrake mechanism" should clear things up for you.  



Doom and Dust's picture

You see this is what Austrians still misunderstand. From the first article found:

The law basically says that, for each dollar a bank has on hand in one of its savings accounts, it is allowed to create another 90 cents to give out as a loan.

Obviously BS. There is no such law. It's not fractional banking, it's fictional banking.

Cynicles's picture

FRB is very real. Painfully real.

adanata's picture


Pods... the currency is going down regardless although the 'dollar' ironically will probably be the last fiat standing; I don't know. What I do know is the rest of the world is setting up a new gold backed and alternative system and if the U.S. is going to trade with anyone we will need a new plan. It is possible this might be helpful in the long run since it may mean Americans will have to actually begin making things because what we use will have to be made here. Meanwhile, China is buying up huge swaths of our manufacturing, such as it is, so they are colonizing us economically. Again, ironic. I suspect, whether TPTB like it or not, we are going to see barter, black markets and PMs come into play as the Fed continues to debase the currency.

Syrin's picture

He should have asked the moderator, "Does the DNC pay you in person or do they autodraft into your bank account?".   dive these f'ing points HOME.   He took his debate advice from Romney and all republicans who have lost for three decades.   Be "nice".   Don't be aggressive.   In other words, don't be yourself or do anything that made you the people's pick.   FUCK THEM ALL, and go on the damn ATTACK!   This is not the time for the prevent defense which always gives up at least a field goal and usually a TD.

Never One Roach's picture

Trump missed a perfect opportunity to showcase Hillary's corruption as well as how biased the moderator is. I think he missed that by being too defensive and rambling about unimportant stuff when he should have given a one sentence answer then pointed out another criminal fact about Hillary.

Unless they get a more impartial moderator who asks tougher questions instead this jerk repeatedly asking about a totally trivial issue, the birth certificate, Trump should consider skipping the next debates and stick to his podium speeches and ralleys since the media from A to Z is distorting just about everything he says.He should have given a one sentence response about the birther thing and counter attacked her with very important stuff like job losses, the economy crumbling, Wall Street bailouts, etc.

For example, they emphasize his tax returns but completely ignore Hillary lying to the FBI, her exposing national security items to hostile foreign countries, blatantly corrupt Clinton Foundation, etc.

Hard to believe he let her control the debate but it was hard given the moderate was very biased. he should never have consented to this debate with this moderator who appears to be hired by the DNC imo.