Iraq Will Use Sept 11 Bill To Sue US Government For 2003 Invasion, Demand Compensation

Tyler Durden's picture

As reported on Saturday, a September 11 widow was the first American to take advantage of the recently passed Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism (JASTA), aka the "Sept.11" bill courtesy of Congress which for the first time in Obama's tenure overrode his veto, by suing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Stephanie Ross DeSimone alleged the kingdom provided material support to al-Qaeda and its leader, Osama bin Laden leading to the death of her husband, Navy Commander Patrick Dunn, who was killed at the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2009, when Stephanie was two months pregnant at the time with the couple's daughter. Her suit is also filed on behalf of the couple’s daughter. She sued for wrongful death and intentional infliction of emotional distress, and is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages.

As we said last week, we expect many more such lawsuits to be filed in the coming days now that the "seal has been broken", forcing the Kingdom to defend itself in a court of law, perhaps leading to ever growing displeasure by Riyadh with the US administration, and potentially leading to punitive measures such as selling of US-denominated securities.

However, in an unexpected twist, over the weekend following the passage of JASTA, it was citizens of Iraq who asked their parliament to demand compensation for the 2003 US invasion of Iraq.  As Al-Arabiya news channel reported on Saturday, an Iraqi group has requested parliament to prepare a lawsuit seeking compensation from the US for the invasion of Iraq. The "Arab Project in Iraq" lobby group "sees their opportunity to ask for compensation from the United States over violations by the US forces following the US invasion that saw the toppling of late President Saddam Hussein in 2003."

Even before Obama's veto had been overriden, the group had warned that "In light of the majority vote by the US Congress and Senate in support of the 9/11 bill removing the sovereign immunity rights of Saudi Arabia and other countries accused of being implicated in terrorism—and in spite of President Obama’s veto on September 23rd 2016—we hereby declare that if this bill is actually passed and becomes a law, then it constitutes a window of opportunity for millions of Iraqis who have lost their sons and daughters in military operations by US military forces and US contracted forces since the US invasion in 2003 to pursue compensation from the US government for what they have endured," a letter published by the Iraqi National Project warned, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

The group urged for a full-fledged investigation over the killing of civilians targets, loss of properties and individuals who suffered torture and other mistreatment on the hand of US forces.

While hardly intended to have this effect - where the US itself is sued for alleged terrorist acticity - the Iraqi group is the first foreign entity to take advantage of the precedent set by JASTA in overturning the principle of sovereign immunity. By passing JASTA and allowing 9/11 families to sue Saudi Arabia, the Senate has also made the US vulnerable to legal action seeking compensation for its foreign policy activities across the world. The day after the Senate vote, former Republican Senator Larry Pressler expressed fear that as a veteran of the Vietnam War, he could now face legal action.

"As a Vietnam combat veteran, I could almost certainly be sued by the Vietnamese government or by a Vietnamese citizen," Pressler wrote in The Hill.

"The Gulf War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War veterans are more protected by constitutional congressional actions, but we Vietnam veterans will be raw targets if Americans can sue Saudi Arabia."

While Vietnam vets have so far been spared, Dick Cheney and Colin Powell may soon find themselves picking defense lawyers.

Meanwhile, as Saudi Arabia continues to deny any culpability for the 9/11 attacks, and has warned that it might be forced to sell off billions of US assets to avoid sanctions if JASTA became law, the Saudi Press Agency, as reported earlier, stressed that the adoption of "JASTA" Law in the United States of America is of great concern to the international community in which international relations are based on the principle of equality and sovereign immunity, the principle governing international relations for hundreds of years."

Previous warnings by Saudi Arabia were harsher: earlier in the year the Kingdom warned it "would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in Treasury securities and other assets in the United States before they could be in danger of being frozen by American courts," Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told the US Congress in March, the New York Times reported. Saudi Arabia has yet to repeat this warning, or make good on its threat.

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Dutes's picture

We are living in the twilight zone.

nibiru's picture

whoops. Obammy may have problems.

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Is good to hold culpable party responsible, both on desert wearing pajama and in White House with spoon up nose.

Lumberjack's picture

That spoon thingy could include lawsuits by Mexico and Central/South American countries too. God knows how many other places may have standing.

svayambhu108's picture

We've compensated some folks

wildbad's picture

payback is a bitch with a fat moustache...who saw THAT coming?

macholatte's picture

 

Confused.

Somebody please explain to me how a USA law suddenly allows foreign citizens to sue the USA?  
Why didn’t the law in the foreigner’s home country already allow for such a suit?
If USA citizens couldn’t sue because of the law, how did that stop foreign citizens from suing the USA in their home courts?

 

svayambhu108's picture

Unless you tell the world in legal terms, what we all know, that US people are more people than most of the people from around the world

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) svayambhu108 Oct 3, 2016 6:42 PM

I imagine it helps if you have actually been convicted of being a state sponsor of terror:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States

LawsofPhysics's picture

LOL!!!  Only the laws that are actually enforced...

Free John Corzine!  Oh wait, nevermind...

SafelyGraze's picture

"the 9/11 bill removing the sovereign immunity rights of Saudi Arabia and other countries accused of being implicated in terrorism"

the sovereignty of other countries is in the hands of the us executive and legislative and judicial branches

 

roxyNL's picture

 

 

Is this a dream ?  This world looks more and more strange !

 

 


The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) LawsofPhysics Oct 3, 2016 6:08 PM

Suing and winning is one thing.  It's quite another to collect on your suit if the losing party just tells you to F....Off.

Donald J. Trump's picture

That's why SA will sell their US holdings.  Anything that can be seized by US authorities.

macholatte's picture

 

FYI: Rulings by courts/judges create precedents.

beemasters's picture

"Laws creates precedents"

...plus mainly Obama announcing and opening up this possibility on television after his veto was overriden.

Gold...Bitches's picture

Somebody please explain to me how a USA law suddenly allows foreign citizens to sue the USA?   

Probably by suing in the US court system.

fattail's picture

You're too late, the corporations and Wall Street banks have already looted the treasury. There's nothing left.  Lol.

HowdyDoody's picture

The US thinks that people in other countries are subject to US law, so this seems fair to me.

Bush Baby's picture

We're going to take down the World Trade Centers, and America is going to pay for it - ahaha

BillyBass's picture

Easy, it is reciprocating agreements and treaties.  JASA said, "Fuck all that"

We were warned this would happen.

enforcer92677's picture

I would definitely tell them to go fuck themselves in the most convoluted legal way possible.

Money Boo Boo's picture

To ALL the ZH R'Tards:

 

Thanks for coming out and being the fucking tools you are every.single.day. You fucktards are too stoopid for words and you know exactly who you are. The turd squirts who last week couldn't believe such a thing could happen!

 

How? How? How is this possible?

Please just flush your country down the toilet and start over.

 

Regards,

The Entire World

Gold...Bitches's picture

Bah - no big deal at the end of the day.  The Rule of Law is just so yesterday, yaknow?  So another country gets a decision for $100 million.  We jsut hit one of that country's big companies for fines and violations in at least the amount that they got from us.  ie. Apple getting hit by Europe and then right back at ya DB gets hit with a DOJ bill for the same amount.

Gold...Bitches's picture

As well as the fact that getting a judicial judgement and getting paid are two different things

Money Boo Boo's picture

Yes, you are correct!! this will be yet another cirlce jerk of gigantic proportions but always nice to serve up a big hot heaping "I told you so" to a bunch of ignorant amercian fuckwads who think the world revolves around their own stoopidity. (That's really the bulk of ZH readers BTW.)

Money Boo Boo's picture

The best part for the UKKKA however is:

Such a law suit, regardless of legal outcome and fiancial awards, the legal process will at least produce a very detailed, and chronological order to all the lies and bullshit the Bush Admin used to create an illegal war for profit.

At the very least, the historical record will definitively show all the cowardice of the USA and will be put to pen for all the world and all eternity to see. Instead of the noise, bullshit and lies that always finds its way to to top of the US pile of shit.

noless's picture

Usually actions like these are followed by declarations of war(if not by their very merit they are counted as one), It all sounds so civil using the term "precedent", but it's really nothing new.

NiggaPleeze's picture

THe US law doesn't allow it, as it only waives sovereign immunity for "foreign states".  However it sets a precedent that foreign states can be sued for acts of terrorism by them or their agents, so Iraq can enact a similar law and the US would be in no position (assuming it's not a hypocritical tyrant, you be the judge of that) to complain.

Antifaschistische's picture

Hey, I live in Houston...and thought I am not "from" Texas...that doesn't matter.

I want to receive reparations from the the whole North vs. South thing where whitey Southerners were killed by the Northerners.  Doesn't matter if my great great whatever fought in that war or not.  I'm a Southerner now and therefore due some compensation...for someone's struggle a couple centuries ago...or whenever.

 

Never One Roach's picture

Hillary will add the "Iraq Reconstruction Tax" to her "Reparation Tax" for the American people. All construction contract to be awarded through the Clinton Foundation to Halliburton and other friends of Hillary.

thesonandheir's picture

As a Brit I'm suing for our thirteen original colonies back.

 

You can keep the rest.

keep the bastards honest's picture

Hello Brit, as a descendant of an Irish  famine (which was not)orphan along with millions can sue england for that and for the export  of our ancesters by england  for sale to the americans for slaves.. 100's of  thousands of them, then those black slave line people carrying irish girl mitochondria can sue too on behalf of their sweet girl way back... then  there are the 3 million indians CHurchill starved must have lots of cranky relatives... really  it goes on and on.

England invaded all but 22  countries so I read somewhere... 

SWRichmond's picture

I consider this to be fantastic news.  Bankrupt USA dot gov!

FABULOUS

The invasion WAS illegal.

nmewn's picture

Everybody just needs to get in line behind me cuz I'm suing every swinging dick & breast that had anything to do with ObamaCare.

cheech_wizard's picture

So a trip to a woodchipper is out of the question? I'd settle for that as it does send a rather strong message to future lawmakers.

CorporateCongress's picture

Bankrupt an already bankrupt .gov... Interesting thought

Analyse2's picture

Remember how much hate FRANCE got in the US for NOT wanting to contribute, and trying to prevent this dirty and stupid Iraq war in 2003.
The whole dumbass "FREEDOM FRIES", the TV news showing proud Americans pouring French wines in the gutter, the “cheese-eating surrender MONKEYS” things – all kind of silly jokes still continuing, even in ZH …. Years of Anti-French slander and vilification was thus thrust by the White House, the administration, members of Congress, governors and by lackeys in the media (like Fox News or Murdoch Press).

HowdyDoody's picture

They learnt their lesson well. They were first in line to support regime change in Libya and then Syria.

 

SilverRhino's picture

Actually this just opens the door for the USA to present the bill to Iraq.  

 

For all that "nation building" 

Come to think of it .... NATO!!   Uncle Sam's got an invoice for you!! 

greenskeeper carl's picture

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Who could have seen that coming? Oh, right, me and everyone else with more than two brain cells. What a bunch of fucktards. This is truly comedy gold. I am truly sorry for all the people killed during this clusterfuck, but god damn, you couldn't make this shit up. Mark my words, too. This is only the beginning. There's some parents of a horribly disfigured child in Afghanistan somewhere calling the hajji ACLU right now. More to follow.

Oracle 911's picture

The funny thing is, Obama vetoed it...

I bet he knew all along how it will end and still somebody pushed it...

Gold...Bitches's picture

And maybe if he hadn't given Congress a big middle finger the last eight years with all the executive orders maybe, just maybe, they would have gone with the action he wanted.

Bush Baby's picture

Over 1000 civilians killed in Obama's drone strikes !!

Ka-Ching !

 

LawsofPhysics's picture

whatever, let's see what actually happens...

 

It is a "just-us" system after all and some animals are "more equal" than others...

11b40's picture

Regardless what the actual legal outcomes are, the publicity will be huge.  So much dirty laundry is coming to light.  So much more to come.  Courtroom Discovery motions should be very interesting, indeed, with trials into perpetuity.

greenskeeper carl's picture

That's a big negative on that, .gov won't be compensating jack shit. Think about the can of worms that would open up.