US Considering Air Strikes On Assad Regime After Top General Warns It Could Lead To War With Russia

Tyler Durden's picture

Now that the gloves have come off in the faux diplomacy between Russia and the US, which yesterday culminated with Putin halting a Plutonium cleanup effort with the US, shortly before the US State Department announced it would end negotiations with Russia over Syria, the next step may be one which John Kerry warned last week is "back on the table", namely the launch of military strikes on the Assad regime.

As WaPo reports, meetings have been going on within US national security agencies for weeks to consider new options to recommend to the president to address the ongoing crisis in Aleppo. A meeting of the Principals Committee, which includes Cabinet-level officials, is scheduled for Wednesday while a meeting of the National Security Council, which could include the president, could come as early as this weekend.

As Reuters hinted last week, at a Deputies Committee meeting at the White House, officials from the State Department, the CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed limited military strikes against the regime as a "means of forcing Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad to pay a cost for his violations of the cease-fire, disrupt his ability to continue committing war crimes against civilians in Aleppo, and raise the pressure on the regime to come back to the negotiating table in a serious way." Or, in other words, to cut to the chase and go right back to what the US was hoping to achieve in Syria in the first place: another regime change.

Among the options considered include bombing Syrian air force runways using cruise missiles and other long-range weapons fired from coalition planes and ships. One proposed way to get around the White House’s long-standing objection to striking the Assad regime without a U.N. Security Council resolution would be to carry out the strikes covertly and without public acknowledgment, the official said. In other words, the warhawks in the administration are actively contemplating not only bypassing the White House, but flaunting the UN and launching a sovereign incursions, also known as a war, against Syria.

The CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, represented in the Deputies Committee meeting by Vice Chairman Gen. Paul Selva, expressed support for such “kinetic” options, the official said. That marked an increase of support for striking Assad compared with the last time such options were considered.

 

“There’s an increased mood in support of kinetic actions against the regime,” one senior administration official said. “The CIA and the Joint Staff have said that the fall of Aleppo would undermine America’s counterterrorism goals in Syria.”

The good news is that, at least for now, not everyone involved in the discussion is a hawkish neocon. According to WaPo there’s still skepticism that the White House will approve military action. Other administration officials told The Post this week that Obama is no more willing to commit U.S. military force inside Syria than he was previously and that each of the military options being discussed have negative risks or consequences.

There is another problem: launching bombing raides over Syria would necessarily require the creation of a "no fly zone" for Syrian and, more importantly, Russian warplanes.  However, as we noted yesterday, during testimony before the Senate Committee on Armed Services last week General Joseph Dunford rang the alarm over a policy shift that is gaining more traction within the halls of Washington following the collapse of the ceasefire brokered by the United States and Russia in Syria saying that it could result in a major international war which he was not prepared to advocate on behalf of.

The notable exchange took place after Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi asked about Hillary Clinton’s proposal for a no fly zone in Syria in response to allegations that Russia and Syria have intensified their aerial bombardment of rebel-held East Aleppo since the collapse of the ceasefire.

"What about the option of controlling the airspace so that barrel bombs cannot be dropped? What do you think of that option?" asked Wicker. "Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia. That is a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make," said the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggesting the policy was too hawkish even for military leaders.

As we further added last night, despite Dunford's warning, the military angle has gained traction in recent weeks among top US diplomats, as today's WaPo report confirms.

And since the report is, at least for now, just a trial balloon to gauge the Russian reaction to a potential US military incursion, we now wait to see what Putin's reaction to the possibility of a US military campaign in Syria will be.

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major major major major's picture

WAR is good for PROFITS

SomethingSomethingDarkSide's picture

This is starting to feel like a recovery now!  Better buy all that war prep material no matter the cost!  Stimulative!

MagicHandPuppet's picture

They want to start a war before the "election".  I wonder why.

Pinto Currency's picture

Clearly no choice but to delay the election.

CuttingEdge's picture

You see, no matter how fucking stupid politicians are, when faced with superior tech, the generals know they are fucked.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-deploys-advanced-s-300v4-anti-ballis...

Nexus789's picture

Now we know why the Russian's are currently carrying out one of the biggest civil defense drill in history. Forty million Russians into thousands of shelters. None of which is mentioned in the US MSM. ________________________

lance-a-lot's picture
lance-a-lot (not verified) Nexus789 Oct 4, 2016 2:41 PM

The truth about the conflict with Russia NO ONE dares to reveal. https://goo.gl/nKJndT

froze25's picture

For the Love of God, please do not start ww3 over Syria to enrich the already enormous wealth of the Saudi's. Seriously Think of the Children. Trump 2016

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

One option which is never considered in Vichy DC: tell the truth.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) froze25 Oct 4, 2016 11:52 PM

Syria is part of Greater Israel.

All those guys wear masks because they are mercenaries with black dyed beards.

The rebels are PAID, and they pick up some psychos along the way.

It's like every Jew color revolution, start something push it on jew social media and Jew TVee and it catches fire if you do it long enough.

Get some Jew movie makers to make fake beheading films and ...........Viola~

This whole era is not the Twilight Zone, its Looney Tunes.

BarkingCat's picture

suck off SantaFee, Aristotle of whatever etc.

HowdyDoody's picture

Russia has confirmed shipment of the latest S-300 system (export version of S-400) to Syria. Syria now has the means to backup any declaration that foreign air forces should stay out of Syrian airspace.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/2163932.html

US - your move. Do you really want to see if your fancy pants aircraft can evade a S-300 just before you start the big one?

JohninMK's picture

Sorry but the S-300 is not the export version of the S-400. There are export versions of both systems but there are no orders as yet fot the export S-400, just S-300.

The S-300 shipped to Tartus looks to be the real Russian full fat version. Possibly extra protection for their carrier, as well as the port, when it arrives.

PT's picture

Note to Russia:  Obviously, while defence is priority, next step is take out / capture the Moho mines and metal collectors.  This will seriously slow down their future production and mean less fighting later (works best on non-metal planet).  Then take out Fusion Reactors, solar and wind collectors.  Leave the metal makers going as they are a serious energy drain on the enemy's resources.  If you can take out energy production and leave the metal makers going, the enemy's production comes to a stand-still...

 

 

... actually, I think they already know that ...

Bush Baby's picture

It's all about 3rd term Obama

BarkingCat's picture

stop talking nonsense. 

The elections were not suspended due to WWI nor WWII.

Tbey certainly would not be suspended due to one now...... unless the US is a smoldering heap of rubble and if that happens "what difference does it make".

East Indian's picture

Watch that clip again. The General leaves a long pause after saying, "war with Syria and Russia", to let it sink well into the Senator.

But to no avail, I think. These Senators have no fear of nuclear wars. They are brought up on a staple diet of exceptionalism; they think that nuclear wars are winnable with tactical nuclear weapons.

Nothing can cure them except may be a glowing crater in their backyards...

codecode's picture

Congress approved this when?

l8apex's picture

I too missed the delaration of war.  WTF are we doing in Syria anyways?  Don't answer that, I already know.

KnuckleDragger-X's picture

This is Obozo land, declarations are no longer needed to start a world war......

Perimetr's picture

These maniacs seem convinced that they can do anything they want to Russia, because "Russia will back down".

When Washington is a smoking hole in the ground and microparticles of vaporized neocons are floating through the stratosphere,

It will be a bit too late to fix things.

auricle's picture

And if this means war with Russia, will the war be confined to the boarders of Syria? I think not. 

jcaz's picture

Fucking joke-  98% of America can't find Syria on a map,  or Russia for that matter....

I want to do business with these guys, but my government insists on going to war-  the "people's will" indeed.....

Fuck Congress- they're all future Clinton Foundation beneficiaries.......

s2man's picture

Uh,  I think it is in the Middle East.   But I am not sure where that is...

Duane Norman's picture

Truly beyond warmongering, this is just bloodlust

land_of_the_few's picture

This is because Team US does not do professional diplomacy like they presumably used to when they had real, educated diplomats, so they mistake politeness for weakness because they simply don't "get" it. And they have no experience anyway so they don't collectively remember tough polite diplomats from the past. Unfortunately in the eyes of other natoons this makes themselves look like utter tools who cannot be trusted and quite possibly have to be pre-empted in a big way *every single time* for reasons of safety.

otschelnik's picture

Besides diplomacy Team USA doesn't do constitutionality very well...  bomb a foreign state's armed forces...  without an act of congress....?

It's OK if its done clandestinely??????

Which way to the beach's picture

When Washington is a smoking hole in the ground and microparticles of vaporized neocons are floating through the stratosphere.

If it was just Washington and the neocons, it would be a price worth paying, as that bitch Madeleine Albright once said.

On top of the S300 the Russians are sending the SA-23 Gladiator to protect against cruise missile and aircraft. Russiaès aircraft carrier should be sitting off the coast of Syria soon as well. Your play Obummer.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/russia-sends-syria-anti-missile-system...

Bubbles

zvzzt's picture

"...of vaporized neocons are floating through the stratosphere,

It will be a bit too late to fix things.

 

That sentence does not make sense! You are contradicting yourself :)

erkme73's picture

If only there was a way to contain the killing zone to DC, I'd pull the trigger myself.

Jambo Mambo Bill's picture

And congress accounts for anything these days?... its all a big fucking show... whatever the Pentagon wants the Pentagon will get.

And you know what happens when you make the guys mad...911s happen...just like that sir... oh yea

BeansMcGreens's picture

Also asks the question that is there not ONE person in Congress with enough sense to say "Stop" to this madness? Surely there is at least one that realizes that the US has not won a war in fifty years unless you count Granada.

Must be that a war will stop the election process so they will all remain Congressmen for life, and they all know it.

Sylvan's picture

"Must be that a war will stop the election process so they will all remain Congressmen for life, and they all know it."

It will be very short life for them after war starts and unfortunatelly for all of us.

Scuba Steve's picture

"Never let a good Chaos go to waste" ... someone said that once.

If it gets ugly and we get involved in War with Syria/Russia, could possibly be a good time for the non-military common man to rise up and take back the country by any means necessary.

Just sayin.

Moe Howard's picture

You forgot Panama, Just Because.

sessinpo's picture

It was approved by vague language in the patriot act that was originally passed under bush junior and renewed under obama. Congress also passed the ndaa. Under the guize of fighting terrorism, he can do whatever and doesn't even need to go to congress. Congress only gets involved now if the president were to openly and publicly send ground troops to invade some place. Do you recall obama declaring war on any of the countries that we have bombed or droned? Obama has used the military on more countries then bush. The government also has the ability to detain any citizen indefinitely by labelling them as a terror suspect. The new ndaa for 2017 is supposed to include a provision requiring that women sign for a draft like men do.

Are we not aware yet that the constitution is dead? Do you realize that when congress passed this type of legislation, obama modified it with executive orders?

For example, just read one executive order for obama in 2012.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2012/03/22/2012-7019/national-...

It basically gives the president the power under the pretense of a national emergency to "take actions necessary to ensure the availability of adequate resources and production capability, including services and critical technology, for national defense requirements;"

pretty broad. For example he can even take control of all food production and distribution.

Trogdor's picture

National Security Presidential Directive #51

King Tut's picture
King Tut (not verified) InjectTheVenom Oct 4, 2016 1:53 PM

exactly 

Ignatius's picture

Interesting that US command is considering doing what it's already been doing for a few years.  Ostensibly attacking ISIS while carrying out air strikes and support operations to weaken the Assad government.

Fuck these lyin', murderous sacks of shit, all of 'em.

Where words fail me, I authorize Philippine Pres. Duterte to speak in my place.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Up until now, it's been a Covert War. The Chilling part is now theses Psychopaths are Openly calling for it. And, they'll get it. One way or another.

newbie vampire's picture

"Where words fail me, I authorize Philippine Pres. Duterte to speak in my place."

Sir, your wish has been granted.

http://news.asiaone.com/news/asia/philippines-duterte-tells-obama-go-hell

And I second what President Duterte says.

Erek's picture

When you see that brilliant flash of light, it's too late.

At a minimum you will be blind at a maximum you will be a heap of ash.

Countrybunkererd's picture

That is when you will know.  Unless you get to see the launch, you can guarantee that our .gov will not inform the people until they can't hide the problem anymore.

Countrybunkererd's picture

So, outside of HH, who would prefer to live with just his head even with his heart dragging about (a true testament to his willpower) on the ground...

For those in the USA

<---- I prefer to be an ash heap than survive

<---- I prefer to live underground with a giant condom wrapped around me for the rest of my life

Countrybunkererd's picture

For those is Europe and Russia:

<---- Ash heap

<---- Giant Condom

Countrybunkererd's picture

For ALL THE SANE PEOPLE:

<--- Kill the insane "leaders" with pitch forks, stones, or whatever else you have

<--- live with one of the two choices above

Countrybunkererd's picture

For those in Asia, Other Americas, Etc.

<---- Ash heap

<---- Giant condom