HILLARY’S WARS (Pt. 2): Wikileaks Proves Syria about Iran & Israel

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The following article by David Haggith was first published on The Great Recession Blog:

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Hillary’s War in Syria is another expensive American adventure in nation building as the US inserts itself into the Syrian Civil War ostensibly to restrain the United States’ sworn enemy ISIS (or “ISIL” as the Obama Admin. prefers). Obama’s manner of fighting this war consistently shows a different objective — regime change. While that’s clear to everyone, Wikileaks’ exposure of Hillary Clinton’s emails makes it clear that US intrusion in the Syrian Civil War is really all about Iran and Israel.

Both the US and Russia want to defeat ISIS, but only the US wants to make sure Syria’s President Bashar Assad is overthrown. The United State’s ulterior motive of regime change is the reason it is ineffective against ISIS — because it wants ISIS to do its dirty work — and is the reason for the stalemate last week between Russia and the United States that resulted in a significant move back to cold-war status. I think everyone has generally observed that the US-Russian disagreement is not about how to fight ISIS but about regime change in Syria. What many might not know yet is how last week’s eruption with Russia goes back to Hillary Clinton during her time as Secretary of State.

 

Wikileaks archive of Clinton emails shows this is Hillary’s War with Syria

 

The Syrian Civil War began in 2011 — the middle of Hillary Clinton’s term as US Secretary of State. Unmarked NATO war planes began arriving in Turkey that same year, delivering weapons absconded from Libya where America participated in another war for regime change. The planes also transported volunteer Libyan soldiers. (In my view, a mission clearly outside of NATO’s charter, which was to form an alliance under which all members would fight to protect any individual member if it was attacked, not to transform the world. No one in Syria was attacking any NATO member.) By December of 2011, the CIA and US special ops also began providing communication support to Syrian forces seeking to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Having advised President Obama to enter the Libyan Civil War, Hillary Clinton assured the press at the start of the Syrian Civil War that the United States would not similarly involve itself in that conflict. However, some documents exposed recently by Wikileaks show that Hillary’s advice to the president to enter the US into Libya’s Civil War came with a clear and intentional connection to topple the Assad regime:

In one document labeled “CONFIDENTIAL,” Sidney Blumenthal, a former aide to President Bill Clinton and long-time confidante to Hillary Clinton, wrote the following to Hillary:

 

Assad’ s gestures at reform are delusional attempts to recreate the pattern of his own recent past when he gained a modicum of respect from the West. Likely the most important event that could alter the Syrian equation would be the fall of Qaddafi, providing an example of a successful rebellion. (Wikileaks)

 

Prior to the fall of Qaddafi, Clinton was being advised to overthrow Qaddafi in order to effect change in Syria. Blumenthal then quotes an article by David W. Lesch, whom he says is “the U.S. expert with the closest relationship with Bashar al- Assad”:

 

One game-changer [in Syria] could be the fall of Col. Moammar Gadhafi in Libya…. If Gadhafi falls within the next few months, there will be another model for regime change: that of limited but targeted military support from the West combined with an identifiable rebellion. Not that this can be easily applied in Syria. It hasn’t even been easily applied in Libya, and Syria would be a much harder nut to crack.Furthermore, the Syrian opposition is far from united or being able to establish a Benghazi-like refuge from which to launch a rebellion and to which aid can be sent. But if there is regime change in Libya … it would give the Syrian regime something to really think about…. The Syrian regime does not want, nor can it probably survive, long-term international pressure or isolation, but it is used to sanctions…. Success for the rebels in Libya might change that.

 

US involvement in Libya began at Hillary’s urging shortly after Hillary received this advice from her confidante Sidney Blumenthal. Note that the advice that the overthrow of Qaddafi needed to be connected with “an identifiable rebellion” in Syria means that it needs to be connected with civil war in Syria. US involvement in Libya was, of course, coordinated out of Benghazi, as the advice to Hillary suggested.

Once the fall of Qaddafi was a fait accompli, Hillary’s State Department advocated the overthrow of Bashar Assad as a critical component for calming Israel so that President Barrack Obama could accomplish his legacy nuclear pact with Iran without Israel blowing Iran up before the deal was sealed.

The next document obtained by Wikileaks in its acquisition of Clinton’s emails is not advice to Hillary but subsequent advice from Hillary’s state department to the White House:

 

Negotiations to limit Iran’s nuclear program will not solve Israel’s security dilemma. Nor will they stop Iran from improving the crucial part of any nuclear weapons program…. Iran’s nuclear program and Syria’s civil war may seem unconnected, but they are….. It is the strategic relationship between Iran and the regime of Bashar Assad in Syria that makes it possible for Iran to undermine Israel’s security … through its proxies in Lebanon, like Hezbollah, that are sustained, armed and trained by Iran via Syria. The end of the Assad regime would end this dangerous alliance. Israel’s leadership understands well why defeating Assad is now in its interests…. Defense Minister Ehud Barak argued that “the toppling down of Assad will be a major blow to the radical axis, major blow to Iran….” Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel’s security, it would also ease Israel’s understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly. Then, Israel and the United States might be able to develop a common view of when the Iranian program is so dangerous that military action could be warranted. Right now, it is the combination of Iran’s strategic alliance with Syria and the steady progress in Iran’s nuclear enrichment program that has led Israeli leaders to contemplate a surprise attack — if necessary over the objections of Washington. With Assad gone, and Iran no longer able to threaten Israel through its, proxies, it is possible that the United States and Israel can agree on red lines for when Iran’s program has crossed an unacceptable threshold. In short, the White House can ease the tension that has developed with Israel over Iran by doing the right thing in Syria…. Only the threat or use of force will change the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad’s mind….  (Wikileaks)

 

(Note if you look it up that the Wikileaks document shows dates that refer to when the document was unclassified, not when written. The date of the State Department’s creation of this document can be determined by its content: “the talks between the world’s major powers and Iran that began in Istanbul this April and will continue in Baghdad in May.” The switch from past tense to future tense dates the document sometime between April, 2012, which is when the talks began in Istanbul, and May, 2012, when they continued in Baghdad.)

That same document provides evidence the connection between Hillary’s War in Libya and the next war in Syria clearly became a part the Department of State’s strategy under Hillary: (Note how it states that Libya was an easier case, following the wording in the advice Hillary had been given by Blumenthal about overthrowing Qaddafi as a way to make regime change in Syria more accomplishable.)

 

 

The Obama administration has been understandably wary of engaging in an air operation in Syria like the one conducted in Libya. Libya was an easier case…. Other than the laudable purpose of saving Libyan civilians from likely attacks by Qaddafi’s regime, the Libyan operation had no long-lasting consequences for the region. Syria is harder. But success in Syria would be a transformative event for the Middle East…. using territory in Turkey and possibly Jordan, U.S. diplomats and Pentagon officials can start strengthening the opposition. It will take time…. The second step is to develop international support for a coalition air operation.Russia will never support such a mission, so there is no point operating through the UN Security Council. Some argue that U.S. involvement risks a wider war with Russia. But the Kosovo example shows otherwise. In that case, Russia had genuine ethnic and political ties to the Serbs, which don’t exist between Russia and Syria, and even then Russia did little more than complain.

 

According to this massively revealing document pillaged from Hillary Clinton’s email archives, Obama needed to bring down Assad’s regime in order to calm Israel into accepting the eventual nuclear agreement he was working out with Iran. So, US involvement in the Syrian Civil War is even less about Assad than it is about Iran and Israel — at least in the State Department’s strategizing.

Connect the dots: First, Hillary counseled the president to establish regime change in Libya, the easiest target for such change. Then, with that success weighing on Assad’s fears, the State Department advised seeking regime change in Syria, emphasizing to the president that overthrowing the Assad regime would be essential to his establishment of a nuclear agreement with Iran. The theory was that Assad’s newfound fears from the regime change in Libya coupled with US empowered opposition in his own country, would get him to step down. Underlying the whole plan for regime change in Syria is the motive of weakening Iran, calming Israel and transforming the entire Middle East.

So, Libya was the first hit in a planned one-two punch to Assad that would, in the scheming and collective mind of Hillary’s state department, transform the Middle East. Gaining the presidency right now would put Hillary in office just in time to be the one to see through and reap the benefit of being the president who transformed the Middle East. When it becomes a big success she can tell all about how it was her plan from the beginning and how she saw it through to the end during her presidency.

 

Where does ISIS/ISIL fit into Hillary’s Wars in Libya and Syria?

 

If you read the full document, you may be struck as I was by how there is no mention at allof concerns about ISIS/ISIL as a reason to engage in regime change in Syria. That leads me to believe concerns about ISIS were secondary at best in the State Departments advice for US engagement in Syria. Perhaps they were not much more than the necessary cover story for such engagement because many US citizens were already sick and tired of hearing about “regime change.” Regime change was supposed to be the stuff of George Bush, not the center ambition of Hillary’s reset.

The Wikileaks copy of the document from Hillary Clinton’s email archives closes with the clearly ambitious and optimistic goal of resetting all of the Middle East:

 

Victory may not come quickly or easily, but it will come. And the payoff will be substantial. Iran would be strategically isolated, unable to exert its influence in the Middle East. The resulting regime in Syria will see the United States as a friend, not an enemy. Washington would gain substantial recognition as fighting for the people in the Arab world, not the corrupt regimes. For Israel, the rationale for a bolt from the blue attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be eased. And a new Syrian regime might well be open to early action on the frozen peace talks with Israel…. America can and should help them.

 

Wow! How much does the State Departments advice sound like the optimistic statements of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld that the US would be greeted as liberators in Iraq once the war was over (other than the the more realistic allowance that success in Syria will take a good deal of time and not be accomplished in a hundred days)?

Whether or not Hillary’s War in Libya is scaring Bashar Assad or inspiring his opponents, it did also nicely provide arms for the follow-on war in Syria. The tidy thing about that arrangement is that it might not be seen as US armaments that were attacking Assad directly, especially if the area arrived with Libyan fighters.

Unfortunately, there were unintended negative consequences as so often happens with US-backed regime changes. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2013 assessed that Turkey had effectively transformed the secret US arms program that was shipping through Turkey from supporting “moderate rebels” (whatever a “moderate rebel” is) into supporting all elements of the Syrian opposition, including al-Nusra and ISIS.

As a result (?), The United States began direct involvement in the Syrian Civil War in September, 2014, by sending jets and Tomahawk missiles under its own command (as opposed to NATO’s) to destroy ISIS targets. The need to actually take US planes in to fight ISIS in the Syrian Civil War became a great concern as soon as it appeared US support of Assad’s opposition actually empowered ISIS. Since the Obama administration had claimed that Bush’s War turned Iraq into an incubator for ISIS, it could hardly let Obama’s covert attempt at regime change in Syria wind up empowering ISIS with US arms via Turkey.

The State Department document recommended an air operation in Syria to overthrow Assad, but it turned out that the US also needed to terminate what was happening with ISIS. Fighting ISIS (without mentioning that we had supplied them with weapons) was a much easier sell than air strikes to create regime change.

Have no fear, though, Hillary already has it all figured out, as the State Department document assures, that a regime friendly toward the US will fill the vacuum in Syria, not one constructed from ISIS. We can only hope that prediction turns out better than Clinton’s prediction that Russia would never get directly involved in the Syrian conflict just because the US was supplying Assad’s opponents.

 

In conclusion

 

The State Department document above reveals that regime change in Syria was the primary objective in a masterplan that goes as far back as the Libyan Civil War … just as much as regime-change was the overt objective in Iraq.

The fact that things were not turning out so well in the Iraqi-ISIS incubator meant that the US had to make its efforts in Syria look more about ISIS than about regime change. Even George Bush needed support for his regime-change goal in Iraq, which he found in the notion that he war in Iraq was largely about fighting al Qaeda in Iraq and getting rid of enriched uranium and weapons of mass destruction, not just about liberating the people from a dictator. He could never have sold regime-change as his primary goal, though it was.

This explains why US efforts against ISIS have appeared ineffective. The US has an ulterior motive that is at odds with destroying ISIS. ISIS is useful to the US for the time being because ISIS wants to destroy Bashar Assad as badly as the US does, though with a completely different intended outcome, which is that ISIS rules the Middle East.

The US appears to be running a strategy that is willing to use ISIS where it can to be successful in deposing Assad, but clearly the US does not want to strengthen ISIS to where it becomes the eventual new regime. That final result would completely counter Hillary’s rosy goals of a transformed Middle East that becomes a region that is friendly to the US and safer for Israel.

It’s hard to justify a war directly against Assad, but if ISIS does it, it is completely easy later on to justify a war against ISIS. The US just has to make sure ISIS doesn’t get the upper hand against all of the rest of Assad’s opponents so that they wind up being the ones to fill the power vacuum when Assad is deposed.

That conflict of interests explains why Russia has repeatedly ridiculed the US for being unable to separate the “moderate rebels” it seeks to back (in their attack against Assad) from terrorist groups (like ISIS and al Qaeda) that are also attacking Assad. Operating with mixed motives makes Obama appear inept compared to Putin, whose two motives of protecting Assad and killing ISIS are not in conflict with each other.

While Hillary’s goals might seem (to some) to be worth the means she is taking to get there, these regime changes never turn out that rosy. As shown in the first article of this series, this strategy has already cost the US its nuclear disarmament agreement with Russia and has put the US on the edge of a hot war with Russia. Allowing ISIS to have as much victory against Assad as the US feels is safe in order to try to keep the United States’ hands clean of directly overthrowing Assad is a dangerous strategy. Empowering the enemy of our enemy to fight a war has usually backfired on the US. I find it hard to think of a situation where that strategy hasn’t gone bad for the US and everyone else or where nation-building has worked out well in the last fifty years.

The US would be a safer place and the world a better place if the US stopped trying to reform the world in its image — a grand globalist goal it scarcely can afford any longer.

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novictim's picture

"The US just has to make sure ISIS doesn’t get the upper hand against all of the rest of Assad’s opponent..."

Hahahahahaha...talk about a conspiracy of dunces, this has got to be one of the most inept and idiotic "Grand Strategies" ever put into action by the USA. 

After all the lessons learned from the Iraq Fiasco, this was what Hilldabeast and Obambam came up with? Is there lead in their drinking water?  Or are they drunk on their own political correctness which tells them that Islam is not a certain enemy, no matter the sect?

ALL of Assad's opponents are Jihadists with absolute hatred for Iran...and Israel!! ALL OF THEM.  TURKEY, Saudi, IS, Al Nusra, all the other named minor factions as well as Iran, want Israel wiped off the face of the world. So this "plan" is at the level of a highschool debate team, lots of ideas but little wisdom or knowledge of the facts.

Knave Dave's picture

Indeed. The idea of cherry-picking the good ones out of a mob like that is totally insane; but you can see it in their emails and even more in their actions. And it is straight out of the United States' most ancient play book. Apparently US leaders are utterly incapable of learning from their own history that using bad people to kill other bad people never puts the US in a final situation where good people come out on top. It's amazing our leaders can be so dense that they keep trying that move!

Bang head, hurt. Bang head, hurt. Let's do it again. This is working great for us.

Herdee's picture

Right now the laws have changed in the U.S. which opens up the American government to foreign illegal activities. Don't want to pay? That's easy, there are lots of ships, planes and products to seize along with corporate foreign assets.

Joe A's picture

This is about blind ambition, vanity, megalomania and illusions of grandeur, narcissism. The thought that one can change an area and be viewed as liberators. Bush had it, Blair had it with his memo how he and Bush would change the world, Sarkozy had it, Cameron had it. And Clinton has it. Her hand is in all of this shit happening in the ME.

Millions die because the above wanted to secure their place in the history books. They forgot to realize that people would not see them as liberators. Remember Milosevic? The bombing of Yugoslavia was partly to bring him down. I know of people in Serbia who were totally against Milosevic but who told me they were waiting for NATO to send grond troops into Serbia so they could get a piece of them. Because in the end their country was attacked. People take that personally.

Knave Dave's picture

Yeah, what d'ya know, it turns out that people hate having their sons, daughters, fathers, cousins, best friends, blown up even more than they hate having a despotic ruler. For some odd reason that US leaders seem incapable of fathoming, the average person in these countries cares more about keeping his or her family alive and together than about overthrowing the dictator who makes their lives tough. I guess their calculus runs like this: Better alive with a certain amount of misery and seeing my son holding my grandchild, than alive and free of an evil dictator while holding my dead son in my arms and trying to stop my granchild from crying. Who woulda thunk, huh?

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mountain99889 (not verified) Oct 10, 2016 11:24 AM

It's all about Israel. So why do they want to blame everyone but Israel. It's the result of the decades long zionist victim propaganda. You watch them all using pretzel logic to avoid blaming Israel. When the Jews are all over our media, basically at war with the whites here in the USA and in Europe.

HalinCA's picture

 

Consider the irony of this: posing behind the facade of 'human rights' and 'spreading democracy', Hillary and Obamas' policies have destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives, and have dramatically complicated the EU's problems with mass immigration of undesirables.

When in fact the real reason they did those things was to protect our MIC, Israel, and maintain KSA and Qatar's position in the MidEast.

But the same people who defend her/him now also demand Bush and Rummy be tried for war crimes.

Simple hypocrisy, or the outcome of terminal cognitive dissonance?

 

 

Sandmann's picture

They now want to stop Shia troops from taking Mosul so it becomes capital of Sunnistan. The USAF bombed Shia troops in iraq Dec 2015 "by mistake"

http://www.infowars.com/iraqi-soldiers-fighting-isis-bombed-by-errant-u-...

bjax's picture

United we stand, let's keep these fuckers on the ropes.

THE DORK OF CORK's picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqjlhcUU-g

Syria army soldier interviews. 

They strike me as honorable men defending their homeland 

THE DORK OF CORK's picture

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QwVEgJg6btI

The infamous channel 4 report ( now taken down from their site) 

 

JailBanksters's picture

This election has always been about Israel and Iran, which is why that subject is never brought up and the economy is rarely mentioned. More focus is on Bill having sex with anything, emails and Tax Evasion of Candidates.

Has the public fallen for it, Absofrickinglutely, hook line and stinker.

 

Jack Oliver's picture

"Both the US and Russia want to defeat ISIS" - I stopped reading right there !!!

Knave Dave's picture

Then you stopped reading way too soon because the rest of the article was about how the Obama administration's ulterior motives put them in a continual position of not going after ISIS because they want to cut ISIS enough slack to allow it to do their dirty work against Assad.

DuneCreature's picture

When Ass Wipes Inc are about to go down they will have Killary push the button on WW III for them. .......... In fairness, they 'might' be able to make Trump push it for them too.

AI AL is actually running the show and AL is hard to say 'no' to. (But I won't burn your brain cells up with that fact here.)

Let's put Donald in a see what happens.

John B Wells on Ark Midnight has two important guests on this video - Posted 10/09/2016

Preventing Election Fraud with POLLMOLE (This will help keep Killary out)

The Muslim Brotherhood is running DHS. .......... WTF, over??!??

Live Hard, The Terrorists Are Guarding The Hen House And Killary Is Inside Stealing Eggs, Die Free

~ DC v2.0

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Dark Daze (not verified) Oct 9, 2016 10:56 PM

So, there it is in black and white folks, the Israeli's install a secret 'ambassador' in the White House and proceed to use the US military as it's weapon of choice. When things aren't hot enough they train a group a savages called ISIS to run amok in Syria and Iraq, terrorize the world, justify the overthrow of the US Constitution and sit back while arab kills arab and arab kills Americans. I guess they figure that Jews are too special to die.

This is why they are despised throughout the world. THey do the same things on Wall Street, on the banks, everything and anything they can do to destablize America so it will continue to heel. And they do it in the name of a 'greater Israel' as if killing millions of people in entire countries is their God given right.

And all the while they have 200 nukes pointed at Iran. Can you imagine the pressure that this has put on the Iranians, along with the US sanctions that nearly topped their economy? How can we achieve peace when this kind of fucking bullshit and lying is going on? Nettanyahu, his entire cabinet and all of Mossad need to be extradited to the Hague, tried and imprisoned for this, at a bare minimum. This isn't protecting Israel, it is out and out aggression against huge territories, that they intend to make their own. At best It's Colonialism, at worst it's genocide, and they should know better. It's no wonder that the Sephardim don't wan't any part of what they are doing. It can only end in tears, again.

The Israeli's would be wise to look at what happened to a former US ally, Iraq. The Americans do it with all their patsies. Use them them destroy them. It won't take much to push Russia over the edge over Israel. Saudi Arabia is already being destroyed. Matter of fact it would be a definitive statement by the Russians about how they feel about the whole shit show.

King Tut's picture
King Tut (not verified) Dark Daze Oct 9, 2016 11:24 PM

I'm not a yuge Trump fan but his thoughts on Russia tonight were pretty impressive 

King Tut's picture
King Tut (not verified) Oct 9, 2016 10:27 PM

Hillary is just another Zionist puppet 

moneybots's picture

"Empowering the enemy of our enemy to fight a war has usually backfired on the US."

 

ISIS is inspiring radical Islamists to kill American citizens in the U.S. 13 were killed in San Bernardino and near 50 at the Pulse night club. Even bigger, as a result of the war against Syria, Europe is being trashed by a Muslim invasion that threatens to turn into a European civil war.

 

 

Ace006's picture

Europe is being trashed by Merkel and others of the ruling class who hate their own people and are doing their best to betray them.

GreatUncle's picture

Simple reason too.

Social democracy - has social / financial elements.

Corporatocracy - ditched the social part.

So now you back a system with money but it has no social ideology so those that once supported you stop because they have NO SOCIAL COHESION to keep it together. EU, the construct wil fall it has now voice of people or power to change only directed by the EU commission and those running the show hide in the shadows so no accountabilitity to force a change.

King Tut's picture
King Tut (not verified) moneybots Oct 9, 2016 10:34 PM

Empowering? ISIS has been wholly created/supported by CIA/mossad to keep the US fully embroiled in a Mid East quagmire that we have no business even being involved in. 

Duc888's picture

 

 

Wolfowitz doctrine.  Look no further.

John Kerry

"Speaking on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York, the top US diplomat admitted that the administration’s lawyers had determined that any and all American intervention in Syria is illegal."

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20161001/1045911056/kerry-assad-syria...

 

Knave Dave's picture

That illegality is why they are pressed to let ISIS do as much of the dirty work against Assad as they can. They know that, if ISIS succeeds in dethrowing the horrible Assad, they can find legally legitimate reason to go after ISIS as a terrorist organization and usupring power and then install their own person in ISIS's place. The challenge is that they have to help ISIS succeed while appearing they are not and, at the same time, battle ISIS down enough that it doesn't get to strong to easily take out later. That's how I see the US strategy.

Radical Marijuana's picture

An article based upon various "leaked emails" is bound to be relatively superficial.

...I repeat my views regarding what is "behind" the Syrian & Russian situations:

 

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/making_the_world_safe_for_banksters_syria_in_the_cross-hairs_20130905/

Making the World Safe for Banksters: Syria In the Cross-hairs

By Ellen Brown, September 5, 2013.

 

CONFLICT IN SYRIA HAS BECOME THE GREATEST POSSIBLE FLASH POINT,

DUE TO THE OVERALL GLOBAL AGENDA OF THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-09/russia-accuses-us-threatening-its-national-security-warns-need-nuclear-arms-protecti

Russia Accuses US Of Threatening Its National Security, "Needs Nuclear Weapons For Protection From US Hostility"

 

It is surely NOT any "co-incidence" that the only figurehead of a national central bank who has been making statements which make some relative sense is at the Russian Central Bank, which has been under effective political pressure by the Russian government to not be as much as of an obsequious and obedient puppet of the international bankers as are the vast majority of the rest of the central banks, under the Bank of International Settlements.

EVERYTHING SIGNIFICANT which has been happening in geopolitics for a few Centuries has been due to the background influence of the international bankers. Those international bankers were able to kick the shit out of Russia during the 20th Century (like they were also able to kick the shit out of China, and almost everywhere else.) However, the Russians (as well as the Chinese, et alia), have learned from those experiences, since they were forced to become assimilated and adopt the methods imposed upon them to respond to the emerging international situations, which were being covertly directed by the international bankers.

There are no reasonable doubts about the basic history of
the currently established systems of public governments
enforcing frauds by private banks
as described by Carroll Quigley:

"... powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching goal, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole ... to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements. ... The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. ... It must not be felt that the heads of the world's chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up, and who were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks."

"If history shows anything, it is that there’s no better way to justify relations founded on violence, to make such relations seem moral, than by reframing them in the language of debt — above all, because it immediately makes it seem that it’s the victim who’s doing something wrong."

— David Graerber

In various overlapping ways, Russian national interests ARE at stake in Syria, and therefore, Russia has decided to take a stand there. Of course, such a stand becomes increasingly in conflict with the interests of the international bankers. Within that context, since the international bankers already almost totally dominate the government of the USA, and hence, the foreign policies of the USA do NOT serve the American people, but rather serve the interests of the international bankers, and their agents within the deep state shadow government that dominates the government of the USA (such that it could get away with assassination of American Presidents, and mass murders of American citizens, in order to advance the global agenda of the international bankers), it is rather misleading to refer to the foreign policies of the US government, as if those were somehow still being directed by the majority of the American people. Rather, the power of the USA has been harnessed to serve the agenda of the international bankers, which amounts to upholding a globalized monetary system which is supposed to develop in ways which continue to exert total globalized control over all the world's natural resources, and thus, all the world's people.

On the surface, what is eventually at stake is control over access to and exploitation of the Russian natural resources, since Russia is one of the few countries left in the world which has enough natural resources to continue to make their strip-mining at an exponential rate possible. Since access to natural resources is controlled through the mediation of the monetary systems, what is at stake is the attempt being made by the international bankers to consolidate their global hegemony over the globalized monetary systems, whereby public governments enforce frauds by private banks.

Although countries like Russia were already assimilated into the globalized systems which were made and maintained by the international bankers, the current Russian government is acting too much on the basis of its national interests, rather than totally subservient to the dictates of the international bankers. That is the SOURCE of all of the significant geopolitical events at the present time, as well as the SOURCE of events for the past several decades, as well as during the more recent Centuries.

Ironically, countries like Russia (and China, etc.,) ALREADY have central banks, which make their public money supplies out of nothing as debts, and therefore, are already mostly integrated into the globalized systems which are doing those things. Therefore, one should not over-emphasize the differences, nor exaggerate the degree to which countries like Russia (and China, etc.,) are NOT actually integrated into the emerging "New World Order," based upon Globalized Neolithic Civilization operating through public governments enforcing frauds by private banks.

However, since Russia tends to put some of its own national interests above the interests of the international bankers, Russia is being demonized. For several decades, the CIA, etc., as effectively the secret police working for the international bankers, have been destroying any national governments, all over the world, which attempted to advance their own national interests, above the interests of the international bankers.

Clearly, at the present time, those countries which are already almost totally dominated by the international bankers, such as pretty well all NATO countries, and especially those countries within the core of the most globally dominate Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire, are doing whatever they can to demonize Russia, in order to continue to apply pressures to make Russia submit to relegating its own national interests behind the interests of the international bankers.

Russia has a relatively small population, and therefore, a relatively small overall level of economic activity, within which context Russia has nevertheless developed an abundance of advanced weapons of mass destruction. However, whether or not that will actually deter the international bankers, and the puppet politicians that they control, from continuing to act like increasingly psychotic psychopaths remains to be seen …

My opinion is that the majority of the people living in NATO countries, and especially those living inside those countries which are towards the core of the Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire, have been reduced too thoroughly to act like impotent political idiots, and therefore, I see no good grounds to doubt that the international bankers, as the best organized gangsters, or the banksters, will continue to be able to control the actions of NATO and the USA, etc. …

Rather, what I continue to believe will actually happen is that the MAD Money As Debt systems, backed up by the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems, will continue to spin out of any human control, since the international bankers have made and maintained sociopolitical systems which are manifesting runaway criminal insanities, in the form of more and more seriously risking the uses of weapons of mass destruction starting, (perhaps even originally by "accident") and then rapidly spinning out of control.

My basic opinion is that Globalized Neolithic Civilization has become too sick and insane to be able to recover from how serious that has become. Certainly, at the present time, it is politically impossible for enough of the people living within NATO countries, and especially not enough of the people living inside the USA, to sufficiently understand the degree to which Globalized Neolithic Civilization has become almost totally based on enforced frauds, which are becoming exponentially more fraudulent.

The tragic trajectory we are on is that Russia (and China, etc.,) are already also manifesting within the overall Globalized Neolithic Civilization, which has become almost completely crazy and corrupt to the core. There are really only slight differences between the degrees to which countries like Russia are reasserting their national interests, in ways which are not totally in line with the interests of the international bankers, but which are still enough to be driving all of the current geopolitical events, towards civilization committing collective suicide.

MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER.

That has become GLOBALIZED, as electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from weapons of mass destruction. Within that context, the international bankers are working towards totally consolidating their global dominance, such that no countries will be able to advance their national interests outside of that which is permitted to happen because it also advances the interests of the international bankers. Within that context, in my view, it is not possible to exaggerate the degree to which the best organized gangsters, that have worked long and hard to develop and dominate Globalized Neolithic Civilization, are becoming increasingly psychotic psychopaths, (while most of the people they rule over match that by becoming increasingly impotent political idiots.)

Given those basic social FACTS, which are becoming worse, faster, most people continue to want to believe that civilization is not manifesting runaway criminal insanities, due to the long history of being made and maintained by the excessive successfulness of the applications of organized crime through the political processes. In my opinion, most people mistakenly want to believe that the world is still being dominated by relatively realistic materialists, who are too rational to commit collective suicide. However, those people, who like to believe that the world will not spin out of control, resulting in escalating uses of weapons of mass destruction, tend to grossly underestimate the degree to which the majority of people in NATO countries, and especially in the USA, ARE acting like increasingly impotent political idiots, who have NO effective ways to prevent "their" governments from being dominated by increasingly psychotic psychopaths.

Moreover, another of the expressions of the misplaced faith in the "rationality" of the human species, manifesting through Globalized Neolithic Civilization, is the degree to which many people still believe that they can become effectively "prepared" for insane wars, which they could not "prevent." In my view, while the more mainstream mass media participates in promoting the insane demonization of Russia, and those who only know what the mass media tell them therefore are utterly clueless about what is really going on, the alternative news Web site, like Zero Hedge, continue to indulge in the irrational hopes that human beings and civilization are NOT manifesting runaway criminal insanities, to degrees which have become trillions of times worse than ever before in human history.

Fundamentally, Russia (and China, etc.,) are ALSO operating through fraudulent financial accounting systems, and therefore, everyday, in every way, those countries ALSO make "economic" decisions which are INSANE, except to the degree to which those decisions are made within adapting to them operating in the GLOBALIZED NEOLITHIC CIVILIZATION CONTEXT, where everything gets done as directed by the abilities to back up huge lies with lots of violence, such that the series of short-term expedients, driven by those imperatives of the death control systems, causes civilization to develop in ways which tend to deliberately ignore the longer term consequences of doing so, since there are NO effective sociopolitical mechanisms to stop that from being what actually happens.

Those systems based on being able to back up lies with violence have become globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. While those underlying factors are automatically getting worse, faster, and therefore, practically nothing is being done, nor is politically possible to actually be done, to prevent those becoming exponentially increasing collective insanities, it may be amusing, to those with a sufficiently macabre sense of humour, to examine the manifestations of the various ranges of irrational hopes that some people express regarding how they are getting "prepared" for that which they could not prevent.

At the present time, it continues to be politically impossible for enough people to sufficiently understand how and why MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER, and therefore, nothing is effectively being done to either prevent, or prepare for, the ways THAT MANIFESTS AS EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING COLLECTIVE CRIMINAL INSANITIES.

Overall, Russia is attempting to rationally deter the agenda of the international bankers, while those people, and the political puppets that they dominate, are actually becoming increasingly psychotic psychopaths. Unfortunately, it is NOT possible to rationally fight insanity. It is NOT possible to rationally deter systems which are manifesting runaway criminal insanities from continuing to manifest those in ways which become worse, faster …

For several decades I have been worrying about those issues. Once upon a time, I used to try to prevent those events. Once upon a time, I also used to attempt to prepare for those events. However, since about 2008, I no longer am able to maintain the slightest shred of rational hopes that it is either possible to prevent, nor prepare for, the degree to which Globalized Neolithic Civilization is manifesting runaway criminal insanities. Rather, I have found that the more I learned, the worse it got, because the more I learned, the more convinced I became that the majority of people living inside NATO countries are becoming increasingly impotent political idiots, while the people who dominate NATO countries are becoming increasingly psychotic psychopaths.

Globalized Neolithic Civilization heads towards

FINAL FAILURES FROM TOO MUCH SUCCESS!

Since the whole world is almost totally "controlled" by being able to back up lies with violence, while that violence never stops those lies from still being false, and while doing so has been amplified trillions of times by advancing technologies to become globalized electronic frauds, backed by the force of the threat of weapons of mass destruction, the deeper issues are that Russia can NOT rationally deter the international bankers, and the NATO countries which they almost totally dominate, from continuing on their tragic trajectory, which will continue to attempt to force every country to submit.

In my opinion, it is literally NOT possible to exaggerate the degree to which Globalized Neolithic Civilization has become stark raving MAD, as demonstrated by the ways that the MAD Money As Debt systems are able and willing to cause the breakdown of the delicate equilibria of the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems, which are the only policies that currently contain the development of weapons of mass destruction, which have collectively become trillions of times more destructive than anything which previously existed in human history.

Instead, Globalized Neolithic Civilization is dominated by increasingly psychotic psychopaths, who are able and willing to risk world war, wherein the uses of weapons of mass destruction could, and probably would, spin out of control … Overall, the vast majority of people have adapted, for generation after generation, to living inside systems based upon enforcing frauds. Despite those becoming exponentially more fraudulent, the vast majority of people continue to think in those ways which gradually adapted to taking for granted those systems based upon how frauds could be enforced, despite that never stopping those frauds from still being false.

The ruling classes within that Globalized Neolithic Civilization have become the most personally successful within those systems by becoming the most criminally insane. There is no publicly significant opposition within NATO countries that they do not already effectively control, because of the degree to which almost everyone continues to take for granted thinking about everything in ways which use the biggest bullies' natural languages, and their presumptions built into the dominate philosophy of science.

It is certainly CORRECT to assert that Russia needs nuclear weapons for "protection" against the US (as the leading country which is being dominated by the international bankers, who insist upon controlling Russia, as well as everyone else.) However, it is NOT CORRECT to presume that Russia's possession of nuclear weapons is going to rationally deter the US (as dominated by the international bankers.)

Rather, in general, it is IMPOSSIBLE to exaggerate the degree to which Globalized Neolithic Civilization (and within which countries like Russia, as well as China, etc., are already mostly integrated), is manifesting runaway criminal insanities, in ways which are headed towards committing collective suicide, which can neither be prevented, nor effectively prepared for.

Without some series of technological miracles, surpassed by even greater political miracles, then the MADNESS of globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of the force of nuclear weapons, is necessarily headed towards such technologically advancing civilization annihilating itself.

While I believe that it may be possible to achieve some sufficient series of technological miracles in the foreseeable future, I do NOT believe in any sufficient series of greater political miracles, without which even technological miracles would NOT be enough. For several decades, I have attempted to advance what I regard as the backbone of the series of intellectual scientific revolutions and profound paradigm shifts in the perception of political science, which would be theoretically necessary for Globalized Neolithic Civilization to to change enough to adapt to the development of weapons of mass destruction.

However, more and more, I have been forced to conclude that such series of political miracles are becoming more and more UNLIKELY, rather than even remotely possible. As far as I can now tell, there are no good grounds to expect that enough people living inside NATO countries are going to stop acting like increasingly impotent political idiots, and therefore, no good grounds exist to expect that the ruling classes that dominate NATO countries are going to stop acting like increasingly psychotic psychopaths.

In my view, countries like Russia (and China, etc.,) are making belated, limited, attempts to advance their national interests, rather than acting strictly according to the interests of the international bankers. Even marginally doing so has generated the increasing demonization of Russia, and the resulting escalating risks of world war spinning out of control, where weapons of mass destruction would have be used, before they were lost …

It was always that case that MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER. However, it was never before that case that electronic money was backed by weapons of mass destruction. At the present time, the only ways that the MAD Money As Debt systems can keep going is being baked up by the precarious MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems. Obviously, those MAD systems are becoming more and more unstable, such that it no longer can be counted upon that rational deterrence is actually going to work to stop runaway criminal insanities.

Rather, my current conclusions have become that there are NO ways to either prevent, nor effectively prepare for, the MADNESS of Mutual Assured Destruction from actually doing what is was supposed to stop happening, namely ASSURE THAT THERE IS MUTUAL DESTRUCTION.

Personally, I cope with those conclusions by holding on to transcendental hopes, which sustain irrational hopes for some series of political miracles. However, I no longer am able to maintain any rational hopes with respect to any of that, since I am more and more forced to face the actual social FACTS: the world is dominated by ruling classes who are increasingly psychotic psychopaths, while most of the people they rule over are becoming increasingly impotent political idiots. Since there are no rational evidence and logical arguments, which I am currently aware of, which can disprove that those are the actual FACTS, I find no reasonable ways to either expect that Globalized Neolithic Civilization's runaway criminal insanities can either be prevented, or effectively prepared for.

(As far as I can tell, within that overall context, nothing makes much sense to do, other than to indulge in personal amusements, such as I do when I write my comments above.)

oncemore's picture

TLDR. It is unreadable. Hence a minus from me.

GreatUncle's picture

I think a few are waking up to the current state of play ...

With money those running the show OWN NATO, UN and IMF and wield them as military, politicial and financial tools.

NATO - starting to be looked upon unfavourably for their private army where they have exceeded their mandatate for a cooperative defence to as shown in Libya A COOPERATIVE ATTACK DOG.

UN - political imposing sanctions etc. to ATTACK ANOTHER NATION to attempt to bring it to heel through non military means.

IMF - lend the money you can never repay but we printed that way we own you and just keep appointed ones running the show.

UK government falls under all three even instigating the the attack dog NATO on Libya. Now you fucking bankers because we realise circa 1970's IMF bailout purchased the UK and as for this UN shit of finding fault in nations but choosing not to uphold them all like Israel. Nothing against Israel how come no action has been taken to address the UN findings? Not in for regime change are they.

UK need to leave all 3, no more war and killing to keep international bankers ... can we name the cabal or part of them now? GS, JPM, Morgan Stanley on the US side, Rothschilds on the other.

Now that is 4 who are the other 9 ... all an appointed proxy in the EU is the way this is done.

Duc888's picture

 

 

Thanks for the post RM.. I am aware this is the last gasp of the Western Banks.

Radical Marijuana's picture

As you already know, Duc888, the so-called "Wolfowitz doctrine" is an expression of how the USA should advance the agenda of the international bankers, by making sure that no other countries will be able to challenge the dominance of the USA, which is already under the control of the international bankers.

Hence, the "Wolfowitz doctrine" is really an expression of the international bankers, which was kick-started, and driven into overdrive, by people like Wolfowitz being instrumental in enabling the events on 9/11/2001 to happen, and be taken advantage of, in order to advance the global agenda of the international bankers. Of course, to any relatively rational individual, false flag terror used as an excuse to develop foreign policies that start more genocidal wars, along with domestic policies which prepare to impose democidal martial law, appear to be manifestations of runaway criminal insanities.

But nevertheless, that IS what the current ruling classes in the USA, as exemplified by BOTH the neoconservatives AND the neoliberals (headed towards neofeudalism, before that degenerates into something much worse), are actually doing. Furthermore, that deep state, shadow government has selected Hillary Clinton to be their agent, which will continue to advance their overall, criminally insane, global agenda. Therefore, in my view, the election of Donald Trump as President, rather than Hillary Clinton, would amount to a minor political miracle ... (although such an event may well lead to the assassination of Trump, resulting in President Pence probably becoming just as bad, if not worse than a President Clinton II would have been.)

At the present time, it is very hard to imagine how the Western Banks could breath their last breath and die, without "the last gasp" of their death rattle shaking down most of the rest of Globalized Neolithic Civilization at the same time ???

illuminatus's picture

The US makes their own laws and enforces them with the worlds superior military force.

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Dark Daze (not verified) illuminatus Oct 9, 2016 10:57 PM

Yes. They 'think' they have the world's most superior force, but they really don't. On a kill power basis the Russians have them beat by a country mile. There is little in the US arsenal, other than the Rods of God, that they can use to penetrate the defenses that Russia has constructed. The corruption in their MIC has wasted any capacity they had to compete. Check out the ships in the Med, all of them are old, stuff the Americans wouldn't mind losing anyhow. They are stretched beyond belief and if they think they can trick an entire generation into going to the ME to die, they are sorely mistaken. IMO they would be very hard pressed to come up with enough bodies that they could actually breach the defenses. And there would be a lot of bodies. Russia has a lot of historical experience with defense.

So, time to get real. America doesn't need another Vietnam, or Somalia. And in the time it takes the US forces to actually deploy and get everything into position, the Russian's will have cut their legs off.

Ace006's picture

Hillary gets all moist over another Vietnam or Somalia.

Duc888's picture

 

 

Did ya happen to see the latest high tech "stralth" catamaran US leased to Yemen.  Seems a Russian missile turned it into an artificial reef last week.

 

Unreported in western MSM