USA 2017-2020: An Ungovernable Nation?

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,

The only way to govern successfully is to actually solve the underlying systemic problems, but doing that requires overthrowing a corrupt, self-serving elite.

Regardless of who wins the presidency, a much larger question looms: will the U.S. be ungovernable 2017-2020? There are multiple sources of the question.

One is of course the remarkable unpopularity of the two candidates for the presidency. For all the reasons that are tiresomely familiar, whomever wins the presidency will remain deeply unpopular with roughly 40% of the adult populace.

Though we can't say "never," let's say it's "extremely unlikely" that fans of Hillary Clinton will cotton to Donald Trump, or vice versa: both candidates have been public figures for decades, and it is highly unlikely that the usual "I will serve all the people" speech given by the new president will change many minds.

It's not too difficult to foresee not just gridlock, but angry gridlock. Neither candidate can count on even the slightest shreds of goodwill from the other party, and with bi-partisanship already dead on arrival, precisely how much governance can any deeply reviled president offer the nation?

Whether pundits like it or not, one issue that will not go away after the election is the dominance of the nation's financial and political elite: the top .01%. As many of us in the alternative media, and to a lesser but still significant degree, in the mainstream media have been noting, the dominance of the elite class of financiers and politicos has increased in the 21st century.

I have described this in a number of ways: the state-cartel model, neofeudalism (with the bottom 95% being either debt-serfs or dependents on state bread and circuses), or the neocolonialial-financialization model: The E.U., Neofeudalism and the Neocolonial-Financialization Model (May 24, 2012).

Simon Johnson, co-author of 13 Bankers: The Wall Street Takeover and the Next Financial Meltdown and White House Burning: Our National Debt and Why It Matters to You, described this as The Quiet Coup in a seminal 2009 essay:

"The finance industry has effectively captured our government--a state of affairs that more typically describes emerging markets, and is at the center of many emerging-market crises. If the IMF’s staff could speak freely about the U.S., it would tell us what it tells all countries in this situation: recovery will fail unless we break the financial oligarchy that is blocking essential reform. And if we are to prevent a true depression, we’re running out of time."

Regardless of who they vote for, an increasing number of Americans are coming to understand that their oppressors are not foreign "terrorists" but homegrown elites who have become wealthier and thus more powerful in the past seven years of "prosperity."

As I have shown many times, the top 5% of households have done very very well in the past few decades, and the bottom 95% have at best clung on and at worst seen the purchasing power of their earnings plummet.

You can't fix this without overthrowing the status quo. Policy tweaks such as "more job training," more social benefits, tax cuts for the middle class--none of those simulacra reforms will change the dynamic or the power structure of the U.S.

And since nobody in power is going to change the status quo that so richly benefits them, the resentment of the power elites will only grow in the next four years. The other unspoken issue is that the bottom 95% are starting to see through the Ministry of Propaganda's unrelenting spew of fake factoids and "happy talk good news":

All the "red button" issues boil down to this: the top .01% make all the important decisions to serve their own interests; the top 5% of technocrats and professionals who have done very well for themselves in the past seven years will support the elites, and the bottom 95% are effectively powerless-- not just politically, but financially.

I would argue that Simon Johnson's financial coup is 50 years behind the governance coup in which the Deep State decided the "people" must be stripped of power lest they mess up "what's best for them," which is of course decided for them by the elitist organs of the Deep State, which I have sketched out here:

You see the dilemma for the elites running the nation: if they keep exploiting the nation for their own benefit, they risk a social revolution that threatens their cozy state-cartel arrangement.

But if they return some power to the people--well, the people might actually renounce the Imperial Project, endless war, saber-rattling, and elite dominance of the nation.

Regardless of who wins the election, the U.S. will be ungovernable in a period of self-reinforcing crises. All the flim-flam financial gambits that created the illusion of prosperity are falling apart, and the Imperial Project is losing its grip on the narratives and on the ground.

The only way to govern successfully is to actually solve the underlying systemic problems, but doing that requires overthrowing a corrupt, self-serving elite, the same elite that will never relinquish its power or its wealth.

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stinkhammer's picture

fuck it dude, let's go bowling

Ghost of Porky's picture

Donald will grab this country by the pussy.

balolalo's picture


Meanwhile he will be laughing all the way to the bank as the country burns. 

But they are so blinded by hate and ignorance that they will blame their skull-fucking on Obama/Hillary or whoever their next scapegoat is. 


Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Insolvent nation with undefended border, rule by immoral cretin… of course is ungovernable.

Joe Davola's picture

It will be surprising if the current 2 parties survive much longer.  The red team is all to willing to "win by losing" - aka "the masses will really want us if the other side wins".  They haven't been able to raise viable leaders for a while.  On the other hand, the blue team isn't all that blue any more - their politicos attempts to be "one of the people" all the while engaging in the behaviors they decry.  The Bernie phenomenon will either totally jade an entire generation, or spawn (reinforce) another party.

DeathMerchant's picture

Laughing my fucking ass off!! "Hate and ignorance"  Fucking hilarious!! So anyone who hates being fucked up the ass without his giving permission is ignorant ?? What an ignorant comment. In other words, the typical libewral one sided bullshit. Agree with me or you are ignorant. If anyone is a fucking retard, it is most certainly dolts like yourself.

rejected's picture

Oh yea,,, The Clinton's exude pure love and wisdom.

Another single issue moron who thinks their color, ethnicity, sexual lewdness, nationality or whatever supersedes everyone else.

Agent P's picture

No, no, no...he'll just talk about grabbing the country by the pussy; he'd never actually do it (that would be wrong).  Now, Bill Clinton on the other hand....

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Assuming everyone rejects, the 'lesser evil' logic, the future still looks challenging. 

Why you might ask? Well, what if I told you we have a MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM. JILL STEIN IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Americans are 'FED' UP with a country that is a cesspool of CORRUPTION, DECEIT, THEFT and MURDER no matter who gets in office. America needs to clean up its act.

The real concern is found in the the question: Is America under the wrath of GOD? Something to think about as we view the political landscape. I think Ezekiel 7:4 and Isaiah 3 :3-4;12 say it all. YOU BE THE JUDGE!!!!!

=== Verses Indicating that Judgment Has Arrived ===

[Eze 7:4 NKJV] 4 My eye will not spare you, Nor will I have pity; But I will repay your ways, And your abominations will be in your midst; Then you shall know that I [am] the LORD!'

[Isa 3:4-5, 12 NKJV] 4 "I will give children [to be] their princes, And babes shall rule over them. 5 The people will be oppressed, Every one by another and every one by his neighbor; The child will be insolent toward the elder, And the base toward the honorable." ... 12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who lead you cause [you] to err, And destroy the way of your paths."


popcorn's picture

Trump did pretty well to point out Hillary made 250 million while in office / using her office, last night.

Soul Glow's picture

Looksl ike China is keeping gold and silver cheap to thank the IMF for letting them join the SDR.  There goes the "China wasn't selling gold last week, they will be buying by the fistfull next week" meme.

Bay of Pigs's picture

It's all horseshit. They are all at the same table fucking humanity over.

The BIS Board of Directors

Chairman: Jens Weidmann, Frankfurt am Main

Mark Carney, London
Agustín Carstens, Mexico City
Luc Coene, Brussels
Jon Cunliffe, London
Mario Draghi, Frankfurt am Main
William C Dudley, New York
Ilan Goldfajn, Brasília
Stefan Ingves, Stockholm
Thomas Jordan, Zurich
Klaas Knot, Amsterdam
Haruhiko Kuroda, Tokyo
Anne Le Lorier, Paris
Fabio Panetta, Rome
Urijt R Patel, Mumbai
Stephen S Poloz, Ottawa
Jan Smets, Brussels
François Villeroy de Galhau, Paris
Ignazio Visco, Rome
Janet L Yellen, Washington
Zhou Xiaochuan, Beijing


Soul Glow's picture

Exactly Bay.  China is now part of the ig group and they too want the fiat system to go on as long as it has to.  They all know it will end one day, but by then they are hoping to all have mechanical heart transplants that will make them live until they are 200 years old and a colony set up on Mars where they can take their pety little selves to once the people of the earth rebel.

They will push the dollar, the yen, the euro, the pound, and now the yuan into hyperinflation, gathering up all the paper assets along the way, this to keep gold cheap so they can leak the gold from their treasuries into their underground vaults.  See, the whole point of this fucking charade is to get as much gold for themselves as possible.  I mean, do you think that I am sitting here buying a roll of silver eagles here, and there?  No.  They are buying tonnes at a time.  

The Rockefellers, Rothchilds, Bushes, shit maybe even Trump, they are all just sitting back buying water sources, arable land, and gold, slowly waiting for the slow burn to scorth the earth.  They want it to take as long as possible though because then they can get most of the shiny precious metal from the Fed etc for themselves.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Pretty much sums it up. 

About time to head back to Maui, walk the beach, drink some beer and tune out on this shit again.

Eddie Baby's picture

The elite are hoping to hold together long enough to get their robot armies in place and have no need for the masses anymore.

indygo55's picture

Dont see Moscow or Tehran on that list. Kinda important people over there ya know. 

Bay of Pigs's picture

Which explains why they are both in the crosshairs now.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Glad to see that I'm not the "Lone voice in the dessert" in this regard.

These 0.01% and their well-compensated minions and Day-walkers of the Vampiric Elite, are doing nothing short of ushering in a new Era (an updated Old Era, actually) of Feudalism. Version 2.0, the game that all Global Oligarchs and Banksters can play.

Alas, the Unwashed Masses are still distracted by the other -isms, bread and circus. Hopefully, more and more People are waking up and throwing off their Sheeple coats.

Kone Wone's picture

'Glad to see that I'm not the "Lone voice in the dessert" in this regard.'

Then maybe you should limit yourself to just the main course.

38BWD22's picture



Good work, Bay re BIS list.

Saludos at you too, SG!

conraddobler's picture

It almost makes more sense to let the two diverging parts of the nation go their seperate ways.

What does Texas have in common with New York?

Would they vote TODAY to form a union if there was none now?

To me just observing this the most likely outcome is that at some point that bond will break and things will drift apart.   That would make the most sense of all because it's like a bad marriage now and it's only going to get worse.

Saving the whole thing seems to be an impossible task would it not be better to contemplate just getting an amicable divorce?

sun tzu's picture

Power and control, as it has been from the beginning

DocBerg's picture

Entitlements are what is holding the whole mess together.  But, all of them are on very shaky ground.  Public pensions? Medicare? Medicaid? Social Security? Disability?  Most of these depend on a growing economy and a stable population base.  Economic growth is nonexistent these days, and the borders are beseiged by immigrants wanting to come to The Land of the Free.  Free housing, free medical care, free cell phones...  Entitlements will inevitably have to be cut due to the revenue shortfalls, and what happens to the cohesion of the Union at that point?

conraddobler's picture

I'd argue that what's holding it together is actually fiat currency issued by our true overlords.

We think we're run by DC but the ultimate truth in any reality is that you are always run by whoever gives you your money.   Money is NOT created by the people and until it is then this will be the result every time.

It wouldn't do any state any good to go out on it's own if it had to still use US dollars, that wouldn't mean actual independence it would actually be the WORST of all worlds.

Absolutely no say so in how your money was issued.

A nation has to have it's own money to even actually exist as a real nation.

The only one world currency I'd ever accept is one issued by the people themselves, that's the crux of the matter, who isues the currency.

VWAndy's picture

 Yep that fiat magic is going to be a tough nut to crack. A two pronged attack might do it?

cowdiddly's picture

Amen brother Im sick of having to pay for and support their bankrupt corrupt liberal states crap I or our states did not vote for.

Its time to part ways and let them have their liberal Utopia and send Buffet and Soros and both parties to run the shithole.

Have no party politics and no donations except from the people. Let everyone run on his own merit and ability.

DeathMerchant's picture

Sorry but that will never work. The liberal "utopia" would become a socialist shithole that everyone would want to leave sooner or later and flee to the free region like east Germany. Better to just settle this in a winner take all scenario.

centerline's picture

I think it happens naturally as the final step in the self-destruction of the federal government.  Everything gets waaaaaaaay more local.

undercover brother's picture

All revolutions take time, especially these days with the advanced citizenry in the US.  But one thing is for sure, Paul Ryan and his band of establishment RINO's just took off their masks for all of America to see and effectively split up the GOP and it will never be the same again.

Lem Motlow's picture

You are right. If Trump wins, the scenario willplay out. If Hitlery wins, the RINOs will give her everything she wants.

Poundsand's picture

So more of the same?  If Hillary wins, will there ever be another budget in US history?  Another declaration of war? 

hound dog vigilante's picture

The GOP is finished. The Ryan/McConnell establishment axis is worth 10-15% at the ballot box, at most.

A bonafide conservative Tea Party (non-GOP) is worth 25-35% at the ballot box, at least.


It won't happen overnight, but the ascension of a true conservative party is now inevitable, and it won't be the GOP.  A Trump presidency would accelerate the process as defections to Donald would pare down the GOP to a skeleton of corporate globalists, and once exposed, they won't run for re-election.  A Hillary victory keeps the GOP alive for 4-8 more years, at most.


hxc's picture

Funny how that goes. GOP wins? GOP implodes

Duc888's picture



Government has become the parasite feeding off the producers.

DocBerg's picture

Governments have always been parasites feeding off the producers.  That is their stock in trade.  Some just disguise it better than others.

38BWD22's picture



And some feed harder.  The trend is important.  The future does not look good.


NotApplicable's picture

Absolutely. Government doesn't solve problems. All they can do is to create them.

To think otherwise is to misunderstand the nature of the beast.

just the tip's picture

Neither candidate can count on even the slightest shreds of goodwill from the other party,

stopped reading there.  bullshit posting.  any posting making reference to a two party system is bullshit.  ryan/mcconnell/mccain will suck clinton's dick on national tv if she says to.




VWAndy's picture

 Intellectual sloth. Its rather commen to see theories that ignore basic facts.

silverer's picture

Well, I think he only means that the rich put on jerseys and fight each other for the top spots. If you didn't have the two parties, half would fight the other half anyway. It's just a "King of the Mountain" game. Labels don't matter.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Kirk mantra: Stop white-washing and changing the air freshener every 4 years in 'This Old Outhouse'.

Mr. President, build that Wall!  And fumigate the Capitol and WH!


(Queue song "Ride of the Valkyries" or "Immigrant Song".) I love the sight of the Bulldozer and Wrecking Ball in the morning. Smells like... Rebuild.

More Ammo's picture

fumigate = neutron bomb when all the criminals are on site...

TeethVillage88s's picture

DHS was created to close the borders.


So, let's close the budget for DHS!!

Seems simple. Business interests want to destroy Middle Class wealth and the US Labor Rate through larger Labor Force of Legal and Illegal Immigrants and through most favored nation and, WTO, GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA-DR, TPP, TAP, TTIP, TISA,... creation of the EU in Europe.

DHS is holding ports and borders open while the US President and US Congress destroy the Sovereign Identity of the USA and the birth right of the US Citizens.

Destruction of nation is Treason, Sedition. I'm guessing that Trump knows this by now.