Nuclear War Is On The Horizon: "This Is Not Just Talk... Action Has Been Taken"

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Submitted by Jeremiah Johnson (nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne)) via SHTFPlan.com,

As the U.S. elections draw nearer, the amount of bellicose rhetoric from politicians and key military commanders (in truth, “politicians” as well) has been increasing.  The main focus of that rhetoric has been directed toward Russia, and is also “blathered” in the direction of China, North Korea, and Iran when it suits U.S. political interests.  The problem is that all of it is not just talk: action has been taken, especially regarding Russia and the Syrian theatre of operations.

Within the past several weeks, the U.S. has bombed Syrian troops, killing 62 outside of Deor ez-Zor in airstrikes and then admitting to doing so “mistakenly.”  The Russians responded by firing up a UN/coalition convoy almost immediately after.  Russian naval artillery then took out a command post with approximately 30 “coalition” officers, some of them being Americans.  The U.S. then made itself responsible (indirectly) for an attack on the Russian Embassy in Damascus, Syria: anti-Assad Islamic militants did the job, and these have support with funding and materials of the U.S.

These “cat-and-mouse” exchanges have not been new by any means, as evidenced by the aerial “Top-Gun” provocative fly-by’s that have been occurring all year long, in Syria as well as in Eastern Europe.  The U.S. has retracted the cease fire agreement and suspended all operations and discussions with Russia pertaining to Syria.  What is new is the level that the rhetoric has reached…rhetoric that is no longer rhetorical but actually constitutes direct threats against Russia.

On September 29, 2016 the Washington Post reported these words from U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter:

“Across the Atlantic, we’re refreshing NATO’s nuclear playbook – to better integrate conventional and nuclear deterrence, to ensure we plan and train like we’d fight, and to deter Russia from thinking it can benefit from a nuclear use in a conflict with NATO.”

The irony of that statement is evident.  While the U.S. emplaces missile batteries in Germany, Romania, and Moldova, Russia has not responded by placing missiles in either Cuba or Venezuela, two countries she holds strong ties with both militarily and economically.  Carter champions deterrence while simultaneously works to increase U.S. nuclear and conventional buildups in Eastern Europe.  But it doesn’t stop there with his words.  This was reported by George Ourfalian of AFP in an article entitled US Using Syrian Crisis to ‘Wage a Surrogate War’ Against Russia, on October 4, 2016:

“US State Department spokesman John Kirby has made strong statements regarding Russia’s involvement in Syria, claiming that if Russia will not cooperate with the US, Moscow will keep sending troops home in body bags.”

Strong words, and quite bellicose originating with a State Department spokesman completely removed from harm’s way.  Then this came out today, the date of this writing on October 5th as reported by Alex Jones’ Prison Planet:

“I want to be clear to those who wish to do us harm…. the United States military – despite all of our challenges, despite our [operational] tempo, despite everything we have been doing – we will stop you and we will beat you harder than you have ever been beaten before. Make no mistake about that.” 

General Mark Milley, U.S. Army Chief of Staff

Milley was directing these words toward Russia.  He went on to describe the next coming war, as such:

“[The next war will] be highly lethal, unlike anything our Army has experienced at least since World War II,” and would involve fighting in “highly populated urban areas.”

Did the General mean overseas, or in the United States?  The Russians are currently (until the 7th of October) conducting nuclear evacuation drills involving over 40 million people.  Everyone from Putin and his general staff to local Moscow reporters believe that a nuclear war started by the United States is just on the horizon.  Just this week, Putin shelved an agreement between Russia and the U.S. to reduce the amount of Plutonium that can be converted into nuclear warheads.

That agreement had been forthcoming since Obama initiated it in 2012, but Putin was straightforward in his reasoning behind cancelling things on Russia’s end from PrepBlog on 10/3/16 that because of U.S. belligerence, Russia needs:

“…urgent measures to defend the security of the Russian Federation.”

Putin and the Russian people believe the U.S.’s actions are going to lead to a nuclear conflict initiated by the United States.  The leadership of the U.S. is made up of politicians who began their careers as Marxist-Socialists.  Traitors now have their fingers on the triggers of the nuclear warheads, aided by “yes-men” of the general staffs who will not remember their oaths to the Constitution of the United States and the American people.  They will ignore that these charges take precedence above any orders given by a petty, dope-smoking, Marxist community organizer of dubious citizenship who was “emplaced” into office to destroy the country.

Instead of statesmen and diplomats, we now have self-interested, politically-motivated belligerents backing Russia and other nations into corners and pushing them toward war.  How long the war of words will be continued is unknown; however, when the missiles begin to fly you can be certain of something.  You can rest assured that the men who spoke those words will be in bunkers and other safe places and out of harm’s way…paid for by the American taxpayer.

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38BWD22's picture

 

 

I would have to think, and hope, that The Donald has sent a quiet message to Putin saying he will not engage in stupid rhetorical and other dangerous games...

And FIRE any generals who think like Klintons...

 

AVmaster's picture

This isn't a cold war...

 

This is a luke warm war, and the burner is still stuck on high trying to get the water to boil...

 

Trump 2016... If we make it....

kliguy38's picture

the dye is cast and its on like donkey kong....enjoy the illusion .......

Loftie's picture
Loftie (not verified) kliguy38 Oct 11, 2016 10:18 PM

The truth about the conflict with Russia NO ONE dares to reveal.
https://goo.gl/nKJndT

philipat's picture

Hey Loftie, previously known as mofio then santafe then Aristotle of Greece then Gargoyle then bleu then oops then lance-a-lot and others. Lance-a-lot got banned very quickly so time to re-use another old persona (non grata)?

You are a serial spammer and a serial pain in the ass. Might I politely suggest that you go fuck yourself? And get a life.

 

JamesBond's picture

This is either internal politics or PsyOps.  It makes no sense; The US has more nukes and more accurate delivery systems than the Russians; sorry Boris.

It's safer to hide out in the US than Russia.

 

jb

HowdyDoody's picture

“[The next war will] be highly lethal, unlike anything our Army has experienced at least since World War II,” and would involve fighting in “highly populated urban areas.”

Yup, in downtown Washington DC, Langley, New York, London etc. Out of interest, how many electricity substations have to be taken out to totally cripple the US? Not that many, I guess.

 

darkpool2's picture

And hopefully they won't be taken out by the Russians........for the next conflict, it has to be citizens v the government.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

Maybe we ought to ask Dick Cheney what he would do if he were the Russian president and was being threatened with nuclear war. Lets pray Russia never adopts his 1% doctrine or we're all toast.

Joe Trader's picture

I'm all for the U.S. guaranteeing no wars with Russia - the same goes for Russia guaranteeing the security of its direct neighbors. Two way street.

Infinity2020's picture

......but.......but.......but my BitCoins!

Boscovius's picture

They won't fuck around with sub-stations.  They take out the power generating plants.

delacroix's picture

wrong. actually russia has more nukes. I don't know about the accuracy of delivery systems, but their ground based defensive missiles are far superior to patriots, and tomahawks.

HowdyDoody's picture

They have some substantial MIRV systems each with 10 500kt (Hiroshima = 20kt) warheads and 40 decoy warheads that are indistinguishable by abm systems.

 

Ms No's picture

How about bioweapons?  It's the most ignored topic when it comes to war.  Shit, even back in Nixon's time they admitted to spending 300 million on it annually.  They have been researching it for the better part of a hundred years and they started an ebola scare not long ago and can now detain any American simply on the basis of allegedly being sick.  Nobody ever talks about any of this.  Then they put those bioweapons labs in the Ukraine.  They admit this.  Russia had terrible outbreaks with casualties afterwards.  We likely should've been nuked right there or at least those labs should've been.  It looks like they could've have been pulling this field testing in China as well with all of the weird outbreaks they have had in the last handful of years.  This could be testing the movement of bugs for something bigger down the road.

It's perfect, they can use to clamp down on us at the same time.  Then every idiot listening to NPR will say "why would the US put it's own people at risk".  And what the hell was it that blew up Elon's rocket?  There have been a lot of really weird explosions in China and Russia that had very interesting timing.  How do we even know that nukes are the big deal anymore?  We don't even know what all they have as far as classified weapons.

 

GreatUncle's picture

All is fair in love and war, there are no rules for a rule is a weakness.

Just so happens Clinton uses the same policy on the US population.

RTP's picture

The most "classified" weapon is the almighty God dogma. Its a war strategy camouflaged as a religion....created by those Hebrews (Habirus) who got kicked out of Egypt. Their dreams how to take revenge we can read in the old Testament. All the menaces they imagined in their hatred against their enemies we cannot find in the ancient historical record, but since the creation of the FED 1913 they found the right tool to finance any war and to fulfill "their" apocalypse. Its a self fulfilling prophesy.

Even Mohammed....after he demolished a peaceful caravan (the battle of Badr) which was on the way to Mecca (in that time a polytheistic culture) got in touch with the monotheistic virus when he escaped to the Jewish tribes of Yatrieb (Medina)...and he became the new prophet of this war ideology.

Terrorism is the new old tool of the moneychangers and their evil hypocrazyness is simply financed by QE. The destruction of archaeological sites in Syria and Iraq is not a coincident...its on the wish list of the chosen tribe since 2500 years ...and their fantasy to implement the "10 menaces" we can now watch daily all over the world.

Buddha 71's picture

just how accurate do hundreds of a multi warhead nukes really have to be ?  no where to really hide, bunkers do not have limitless supplies of electricity, food, water and clean non radioactive air, not really.

Wile-E-Coyote's picture

Nuclear bunkers are designed to keep you alive for a minimum of two weeks but in most cases a lot longer. They are set up and supplied for this exact scenario. 

If by some chance you survive the blast the real challenge for anyone outside a bunker is avoiding fallout, that will kill more people than anything else. Fourteen days is the recommended shelter time but in reality, the decay of nucleotides is rather rapid in the first couple of days being an exponential decay curve. Personally, I think the fourteen-day rule is there to allow the badly injured to die that are outside the shelters.Otherwise what limited resources that would be left might be squandered on the walking dead. It would also reduce the trauma on the survivors.

 

thamnosma's picture

Russia currently has several hundred more nukes than the U.S.  I believe it is 1700 vs 1400, something like that.  There have been recent articles relating to implementation of the START program which have lain out the details.  Best you not talk out of your ass.

Cognitive Consonance's picture

And what portion of that would it take to decimate a country? I'm not an expert, but probably far less than we have. Past a certain point, the number of nukes seems irrelevant. Definition of overkill.

Krungle's picture

Ummm, the reason the US is commiting to spending $1 trillion to modernize it's nuclear arsenal is because ICMB targeting computers use floppy drives and they aren't sure even sure if they will actually explode anymore. In any event, it hardly matters if we have more. Even if they only managed to get some fraction of their submarine missiles off, the US is destroyed and vast swaths of the planet are rendered uninhabitable for thousands of years. This is precisely why wannabe gangsters should not have access to such weaponry.

SilverSphinx's picture

The US would not be destroyed and neither would Russia.

Most Civilians would survive physically unscathed and most infrastructure would remain intact.

Only militarily valuable sites would be targeted by either side and the only civilian deaths would be collateral.

Both sides are using less powerful warheads because the delivery systems are more accurate.

An exchange would not be a launch of all assets simultaneously. It would be measured tit-for-a-tat detonations, realignments of resources, negotiations, threats, more negotiations. Rinse and repeat. Till one of the sides gives in to their citizens concerns. The leadership with the greater will to ignore their citizens complaints and having the most stomach for war and will to have victory would win, and yes, there would be a winner and a loser.

If it starts it is important that we hang in there and win.

Wile-E-Coyote's picture

Something to consider what happens to all the nuclear power plants, those melting down would likely leave a legacy far more deadly than any nuclear exchange.

PleaforPeace's picture

I doubt TPTB have considered the results of 130 Fukishimas being uncontrollably released into the atmosphere for centuries. Why else would they even engage in such rhetoric? This is a sterilization event. Their bunkers will be their tombs. The only real question is will they die quickly or a little slower. I believe the unintended consequences of their stupidity will be the demise of us all.

Cloud9.5's picture

You have laid out the thinking of the neocons.  A limited winnable nuclear war with limited collateral damage is a fantasy.  Half a dozen nukes over key military targets will shut down the power grid causing us to lose 90 percent of our population within the first year.  Commerce will be dead.  Supply chains will be broken and you and yours will starve.  I won’t survive such a scenario and you are an idiot to think you will.

white horse's picture

This kind of thinking is precisely why we are going into WWIII. Keep living your virtual reality in alternate universe.

CNONC's picture

That belief is what makes nuclear war more likely today than before.  Both sides, particularly the US, enamored as it is with its new technology, no longer believe in MAD.  They believe limited nuclear war is possible and winnable.  Certain targets can be attacked without drawing the condemnation of the world.  Naval targets in particular are vulnerable.  Few will object to holes being blown in the ocean, especially when the target is actively engaged in hostilities.  (Beware US carrier tassk forces)  The belief in the ability to target military assets with nuclear weapons without burning cities full of civilians off the map means war planners will incorporate that ability into their plans from the beginning.  Things will escalate farther than anticipated.

As things escalate, even for sane US citizens who opposed this lunatic, criminal drive toward war, victory becomes the only path to survival.  The fools planning this war know this.  Get things going, and the population has no choice but to support the war effort. Our only option is to stop them before they start the war.  I will leave it to each reader to determine how best to do that. 

HalinCA's picture

"Till one of the sides gives in to their citizens concerns."

 

And guess which side that would be?  Remember we are run by international globalists ... and the Russians are run by nationalists.

The Europeans probably don't want to rely on us for energy supplies, so they will sit this one out ... Germany certainly won't participate, and the Poles and Romanians won't attack Russia because we lost 2 CVNs in the Red Sea and Persian gulf. 

And what will China be doing as this unfolds?

Not a good situation to be in ... and all for helping KSA and Qatar get pipelines to Turkey? 

Mr.BlingBling's picture

It's a damn good thing the ICBM targeting computers use floppy drives. Would you prefer Windows 10? iCloud? An app on a Samsung Galaxy Note 7?

Segueing into the liklihood of explosions, they do know for certain that the current bombs will explode, as proven by 1,300+ tests in Nevada and Kwajalein.  That certainty is maintained ONLY by the maintenance and remanufacture--not 'modernization'--of the thoroughly-tested old designs. New, modernized designs are MUCH LESS likely to work because of several considerations, such as live-fire testing prohibited by treaty, the lack of institutional knowledge in the design labs because the experienced guys retired or died; modern, microscale circuitry is inherently less robust; and the catch-all of McNamera's "unknown unknowns." Bottom line is that the $1T is yet another tribute to the MIC.

Finally, that downvote isn't because we disagree. It's because I object to someone who doesn't know WTF they're talking about (that'd be you) opening a post with "Ummm," you condescending fuck.

Caledonian's picture

Kwajelin is the end of missle test range. It doesn't participate in any live warhead testing only missle testing with no warhead. They have fired I believe 3 missles in the last 5 years. No warheads have been detonated by the US since 1992 for test purposes. Granted shit was built way better back then. No cheap chinese horse shit etc.

Mr.BlingBling's picture

Ahh, you are correct.  Thanks!

SilverSphinx's picture

I don't understand why you got all the down votes.

Not like that the U.S has more nukes?

Not like that the U.S. delivery systems are more accurate?

Not like that , "It's safer to hide out in the US than Russia?

Don't just down vote, make a post and explain your reason.

 

sun tzu's picture

Maybe stupidity and outright lies don't deserve a response. This isn't some lamestream media comment board full of braindead leftist morons

TheEndIsNear's picture

Preferably to MDB, nonetheless.

Motasaurus's picture

As I've said many times and in as many places as I can (until they delete my comments and ban me) Hillary will win, and she'll win close. Then she'll be "assasinated" by "the Russians" and then the whole nation will rally behind the flag - because if there's one uniting force in the US it is that no-one attacks "us" and gets away with it. 

This is the script. It has been done before, it will be done again.  

I say this not in the hopes that it will happen, but in the hopes that if it does happen, enough people will have seen me say it that whole nations won't fall lock-step into the final march of their own doom. 

GoldLion's picture

many would thank Russia - just saying

Transformer's picture

I pretty much agree with Montasarus.  That's why the polls keep up this BS of Hillary in the lead.  Jim Willie, who has a degree in statistics has gone over the data in the polls, and says they are rigged.  He thinks it's probably 60-30 Trump at this point.

But as what's his name said, it's who counts the votes that matter.

 

The Navigator's picture

"many would thank Russia - just saying"

Many of the SURVIVORS, if any.

Hope you got land/home in the Southern hemisphere (like the Bush family bought 98,842 acres in Paraguay) to run to.

Even with the Best bug out plans, you either need to be there already, or in-flight or out to sea when it lites-up.


IS BE's picture

"assasinated" by "the Russians"" 

My view too. But I'll add that Hillary is a Trojan Horse for the Neocons. 

Cookies Noodlewhanger will then sidle up to the Big Red Button. And then for the Grand Finale,  Armageddon and the Return of their Messiah. 

A true boné fide Death Cult. 

Libtard's picture

No true believer believes man can affect the second coming. It is on His time, not ours. Google Revelation 12 "Sign in the heavens" and tell me man is causing that to happen.

white horse's picture

Killary and neocons definitely do not believe in "their Messiah".

Ignatius's picture

"...no-one attacks "us" and gets away with it. "

Excepting, of course, Israel, if it's the USS Liberty.

opport.knocks's picture

The perpetrators of 9-11, both real and imaginary are still untouched.

Motasaurus's picture

Perhaps spotting satire is not some peoples' strong point.

Mustafa Kemal's picture

T. E. Lawrence said the bedouin had no concept of satire.

Paracelsus's picture

    T. E. Lawrence had a thing for flogging, sadomasochism, which used to be huge in English Public schools (getting caned by the headmaster).

   " Better to let them do it imperfectly than to do it ourselves perfectly, for in the end it is their war, and their country." Lawrence was speaking of the Arabs, sold out at the post-war peace conference (carve-up of the middle-east).

      Cutoff the money and the Captagon and the Syrian nightmare would stop tomorrow. Has anyone in the West thought about how many psych cases this conflict will have created?

  This is a proxy war and the Russkies are still pissed about Afghanistan. Proxy wars can turn hot and escalate. This feels more and more like the JFK/ Cuba crisis everyday.