Obama Tells CIA To Prepare For Cyber War With Russia

Tyler Durden's picture

In what is looking more and more like a season finale of the HBO series "House of Cards" with each passing day, the Obama administration is now literally threatening a cyber war with Russia over allegations it was behind the hacking of Clinton's emails.  According to an exclusive NBC report, the Obama administration "is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action" (though it's unclear how exactly it's covert if Biden is announcing it to the world via an interview with Chuck Todd)  against Russia, in "retaliation for alleged" interference in the American presidential election, and has asked the CIA to draft plans for a "wide-ranging "clandestine" cyber operation designed to harass and "embarrass" the Kremlin leadership."

So now the Obama administration is overtly leveraging the full power of the United States to intimidate foreign governments, and most likely Julian Assange, in order to maintain control of the Executive Branch of the government.  Does anyone within the mainstream media see any problems with this?  Certainly Chuck Todd and NBC do not.  And notice that even the NBC article refers to "alleged" Russian interference because not a shred of evidence has been presented to prove that senior Russian officials were actually behind the hacking of Hillary's emails...but who needs facts when you have a complicit media eager to advance whatever propaganda is necessary to maintain power?   

The Obama administration is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.


Current and former officials with direct knowledge of the situation say the CIA has been asked to deliver options to the White House for a wide-ranging "clandestine" cyber operation designed to harass and "embarrass" the Kremlin leadership.


The sources did not elaborate on the exact measures the CIA was considering, but said the agency had already begun opening cyber doors, selecting targets and making other preparations for an operation. Former intelligence officers told NBC News that the agency had gathered reams of documents that could expose unsavory tactics by Russian President Vladimir Putin.


Vice President Joe Biden told "Meet the Press" moderator Chuck Todd on Friday that "we're sending a message" to Putin and that "it will be at the time of our choosing, and under the circumstances that will have the greatest impact."


When asked if the American public will know a message was sent, the vice president replied, "Hope not."

Former CIA officers interviewed by NBC said that there is a long history of the White House plotting potential cyber attacks against Russia.  That said, none of them were ultimately carried out because "none of the options were particularly good, nor did we think that any of them would be particularly effective."

Two former CIA officers who worked on Russia told NBC News that there is a long history of the White House asking the CIA to come up with options for covert action against Russia, including cyber options — only to abandon the idea.


A second former officer, who helped run intelligence operations against Russia, said he was asked several times in recent years to work on covert action plans, but "none of the options were particularly good, nor did we think that any of them would be particularly effective," he said.

Putin Obama


Others warned that the White House has always caved on plans to follow through with cyber attacks because anything the U.S. can do against Russia, they can also do in response.  As one of the former CIA officers said, "if you are looking to mess with their networks, we can do that, but then the issue becomes, they can do worse things to us in other places."

"We've always hesitated to use a lot of stuff we've had, but that's a political decision," one former officer said. "If someone has decided, `We've had enough of the Russians,' there is a lot we can do. Step one is to remind them that two can play at this game and we have a lot of stuff. Step two, if you are looking to mess with their networks, we can do that, but then the issue becomes, they can do worse things to us in other places."


Putin is almost beyond embarrassing, he said, and anything the U.S. can do against, for example, Russian bank accounts, the Russian can do in response.


"Do you want to have Barack Obama bouncing checks?" he asked.


Former CIA deputy director Michael Morell expressed skepticism that the U.S. would go so far as to attack Russian networks.


"Physical attacks on networks is not something the U.S. wants to do because we don't want to set a precedent for other countries to do it as well, including against us," he said. "My own view is that our response shouldn't be covert -- it should overt, for everybody to see."

Here is a brieg clip of Biden discussing the "covert" planning with NBC's Chuck Todd.


If the Obama administration is willing to go to such great lengths, literally escalating tensions with another superpower, to protect their candidate from whatever it is that she's hiding then we suspect whatever WikiLeaks has yet to release could be really good.

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CNONC's picture

Well said.  The American people are responsible for their governments behavior.  It is our sole duty to hold the usurpers in DC to account for their actions.  If we fail, we will, and should, be ouselves held accountable.  Leadership, authority, and power are burdens too be borne, not things to be desired. The clearest sign of corruption is when people or institutions seek those things for the benefits which accrue to them.

mvsjcl's picture

Fuck the international tribunal. Let's handle this in-house.

nightwish's picture

They'll create fucking anarchy in hopes that it will somehow produce more Hillary votes.

Everyone should be outraged by the sad state of affairs with our current government

SgtShaftoe's picture

As I posted on another thread, this prep may include a domestic attack by the intel agencies. 

This has been building for several weeks: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html

If you are in charge of a company, start putting plans in place to enact a ratcheted down secure mode for your networks.  Determine now what services and websites are required and start building a "white list".  Have that white list ready to implement in your firewalls to block all traffic other than what is absolutely required.  If things start going pear shaped, enable it.  It just might buy you some time. 

lakecity55's picture

My first suspect would be .gov

If the 'cia' attacks any computer systems, it will be our own computer systems!

NYT: Hitlary Right! Russia Attacks!
Washington Post: Trump and Putin behind Cyber Attack!

me or you's picture

Russia just switches her off from the entire Internet so good luck with that.

Lumberjack's picture

They have the balls to accuse Russia of election tampering?

Vice-Chairman of George Soros' Open Society Foundation is also the Chairman of "Smartmatic" the company who makes the fucking voting machines to be used this november




Meeting at Soros Residence




Soros and company deserve what they have coming.

Mr. Bones's picture

The roll over artist sure is picking a fine time to grow a backbone.  Beating up on Yemeni civilians must have given him the chutzpah.

gregga777's picture

Murdering unarmed civilians always increases Bucking Ofama's courage. It takes steely nerves, great intestinal fortitude and tremendous courage to murder babies, unarmed children, women and old men. Obama is a study in bravery.

gregga777's picture

Murdering unarmed civilians always increases Bucking Ofama's courage. It takes steely nerves, great intestinal fortitude and tremendous courage to murder babies, unarmed children, women and old men. Obama is a study in bravery.

lakecity55's picture

This has to be a scam to censor the internet so no more of Hitlary's crimes can see light of day.

Once the .gov shuts down the ATMs, gas pumps, card transactions, nobody will be thinking about Hitlary. Next, the cell phones will stop working (dhs has their own national cell network).

Then the internet will just massively begin to fail all over the country. Bath House declares a National Emergency and seizes power.

This has nothing to do with "Russia." It has to do with the total overthrow of what's left of Law and Order and a daily routine.

Bath House will make sure the FUBAR is so bad the whole system will collapse! Voting in an election will be the last thing on your mind as you scramble for fuel, medicine, and food.

Yen Cross's picture

   TOTUS decided to bomb Yemen instead of Syria. One of the better choices he's made lately.

lakecity55's picture

Uhh, the Russkies may not be as numerous as the Celestials, but their hackers are top-notch.

A diversion to Yemen makes sense.

gregga777's picture

Another war crime for the Nobel Prize winning phony.

backwaterdogs's picture

I'd like to see Putin just sucker punch that pos obama, I mean really know him the Fuck out

gregga777's picture

Patriots in the Secret Service should have taken out the Manchurian Candidate in 2009.

The Duke of New York A No.1's picture

When the circuit breakers start kicking in; somebody gotta get the blame.

3LockBox's picture

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein

Can someone reign the chimp in right about now please?

lakecity55's picture

Bath House, Friday night:

OK, Russians, we are going to attack your computers! That's our Double-Secret Plan! Beware of our highly secret operation to attack your cyber systems! Get out of Syria while the getting is good! We have a secret attack plan!


(via battery-powered radio)

"US Power Grid Mysteriously Shuts Down"

CHoward's picture

Has the U.S. government - particulary Obama - come out and SAID they have absolute positive proof that the government of Russia has in fact hacked the computers of the DNC or any government agency?  I don't recall such a statement.


The hubris and arrogance of Washington is beyond the pale.  The United States is cruising for a bruising that will take a very long time to heal and forget.

Savvy's picture

Those WMD have to be here somewhere

[looks under chair, giggles]

gregga777's picture

The Russians are far, far better at coding and hacking than Americans. Also, America is far, far more vulnerable and has far, far more networks and systems to attack. But, that won't stop our hereditary inbred subnormal IQ elite morons (aka Intellectual Yet Idiot classes). The pussies are always starting wars we can't win because NONE of them ever served in the military and they don't give a shit about how many of our children come home wounded and in body bags. They NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER put their children at risk in the United States Armed Forces. The elites have been AWOL from the United States Armed Forces since the end World War 2 in 1945.

Volkodav's picture

Top Coder Rankings:


Russian and Russian schooled dominate, recent a few more Chine/Asia

cos Russian Education deep in Math and Science

G-R-U-N-T's picture

Honestly, does anyone think these bumbling idiots in this administration know ANYTHING of what they're doing? 

3LockBox's picture

I wonder how much radioactive Au and Ag will be worth in the aftermath?

G-R-U-N-T's picture

I'm going long iodine tablets.

JailBanksters's picture

Prepare ?

They are already Involved with every type of war around the Planet !!!


ThrowAwayYourTV's picture

Obama and Biden have about as much as experience with war as I have with stopping at dunkin doughnuts.

Omega_Man's picture

Russia and China are keeping Merica going by not outright buying gold and silver like crazy... which they should be doing. 

Omega_Man's picture

Mericans are not very good at war...the have wars all the time but never win, never really into them... Russians really get into war and don't want to stop until they totally crush the opponent... 


Merica better keep this in mind... the minute the war starts the mericans won't have much of any chinese goods to use... what will sheep use? Gold will go sky high shorting the dollar.... foreign sellers will want gold... and most nations will tell the USA to fuck off as they will smell the blood in the water...


then merica will circle the toilet bowl and go down...

it's some kind of joke if merica thinks it can fight on multiple fronts... korea, iran, EU, Israel, asia... what fools... 

pc_babe's picture

Afghanistan and Russia was what, a tie?

Volkodav's picture


Most know nothing fact about Soviet involvement Afghanistan

Savvy's picture

Mericans are not very good at war...


Don't sell yourselves short, you won the civil war.

Small Government Is Better's picture

Here we go again, with another Obozo the clown stunt, aided by Criminals In America and No Security Allowed.

Obozo will order attacks, and then when the Russians defend and counter attack, US utilities are likely to go down.

The Chinese may join the Russians out of sympathy for their ally, too.  The USA will get attacked by two capable cyberwarrior nations.

The result could be USA power + water utilities that do not work, or sewer facilities that do not work.

Either way, Americans will not be flushed with pride.  Instead, they will remember the crap sitting in their toilets and the White House.

USA utility cybersecurity leaves a lot to be desired, and is a real taunt to those who would do Americans harm.

Obozo's arrogance and ego get in the way of rational behavior.  Of course, Obozo will not suffer.  But, Americans will.  

In such a case, Americans should all face East toward DC and give the 1 fingered salute.

This appears to be part of Obozo's plan to disrupt the November elections so he can remain in office.

messystateofaffairs's picture

American public school educated cyber warriors will defend. Extra stored energy from nachos and gmo's enhanced by mind altering substances has prepared these intellectual giants for the Russian onslaught. All will be well.

BetterRalph's picture

I say.

No money for schools unless. 

No more Commie Core.

Fix their DIET get the sugar / wheat out

teach the truth about poisons like GMO, tobacco, alcohol, iodized salt, so that people don't put the shit in their mouth cause they know it kills or sandpaper for the arteries

Bring back Rancho Cordova High's Physical fitness program and tear down all the stupid jail-like fences and gates around the schools so the kids can go there again! Hire a fucking Security Guard for security!  what the fuck.


Teach Electronics and Programming in High School.

Other wise you end up with what you SEE out your frontdoor.

Colleges only need to lock up the SJW's along with the Romper Room Rejects.

Then All will be well in the Universe.


Anybody our there, except me, ever stumble on one of these ANTI-WHITE classrooms in college.  Wow was that a fucking wake up call.  the one I was at was Latino and Native American Only. It sounded like I was a Hawk attacking a tree full of blackbirds. Good god the only solution was to GTFO.




flapdoodle's picture

The only thing missing from your list is to put George Soros in a wood chipper feet first, run it for only a second or two, let his wounds heal, then do it again, forever or until the child blood transfusions he uses run out.

Parrotile's picture

 Why use a cyber attack (so potentially exposing yourself to retaliation) when a one or few - person physical attack on hard-to-replace hardware will produce a far "better", and longer-lasting effect?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack, and (more recently) - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865663594/Power-company-offers-rare-5...


"Major damage would require heavy, difficult-to-transport weapons". Really???  The "old-but-popular" 0.50 BMG round fits a number of lightweight sniper rifles, and with a VERY formidable muzzle energy (52 gramme propellent load = 20 + kiloJoules, vs the relatively feeble current 5.52mm NATO round (not even 2 kiloJoules!)), and 2000++ yard effective accurate range, then anyone "with malicious intent" and one of the many rifles this round fits, could easily inflict VERY significant, PERMANENT damage on Grid infrastructure via a literal "single shot". The added "bonus" that the range of this round allows "engagement of target from some distance" just adds to the attraction.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG (note also this round is "effective against unarmoured, and lightly-armouored vehicles" - substitute Transformers and, "Houston, we have a problem!" . . . . )


Klingon Foundation's picture

This has the same feel as the big news about the "Friday" decision about the War in Syria? I am still waiting....what, there are still 2 1/2 hours of Friday left in Washington?


Klingon Foundation's picture

Well, thank you. that turned out much better than I expeced. Kudos for finding that. I did google searches two hours part and didn't find it....


sinbad2's picture

So the US will confer with its allies al Qaeda ISIS UK Saudi Arabia Israel and France, to decide the next move.