'Rigged' Debates? Questions Arise Again Over Lighted Screen At Hillary's Podium

Tyler Durden's picture

After the first debate, numerous videos surfaced alleging that Hillary was using some sort of teleprompter built into her podium to assist with answering questions or to offset whatever medical condition she's dealing with.  The videos were largely dismissed as "cooky alt-right conspiracy theories" and didn't get much attention outside of those spheres. 

But, when similar abnormalities surfaced on Hillary's podium in the third debate, combined with the fact that she spent an awkward amount of time during her answers peering down rather than at the camera, we grew a bit more curious.

With that said, here is a video analyzing the abnormalities from debate 1.  Notice that around 18 seconds into this video one can very clearly see a light shut off on Hillary's podium even though there is no such light at Trump's podium.


But, you don't have to take that guy's word for it.  Here is the actual debate footage from NBC...fast forward to the 1:38:30 mark at the very end of this video and you can see the exact same phenomenon.


And here is a screen capture from the end of the debate.  Notice there is a light on Hillary's podium while Trump's is completely dark.

Clinton Podium


But where things get really interesting is that the exact same phenomenon occurred at debate 3 this week as pointed out by the following video posted by Anonymous. 


Again, as you can see, there seems to be a light on Hillary's podium...

Hillary Podium


...but none at Trump's.

Trump Podium


And here is one more angle...

Hillary Podium


And the two together...

Hillary Podium


But again, no need to take our word for it as you can simply scan through the full debate footage posted by USA Today and see the phenomenon for yourself.  Also note that, at numerous points while answering questions throughout the debate, Hillary seems to be looking down at her podium for extended periods of time rather than at the camera...to the point that it was actually awkward for people watching the debate live.

Don't believe it?  In the following video, fast forward to the 42:25 mark and watch Hillary's eyes as she responds to the question...where is she looking? 


Now, recall that debate 2 was structured as a town hall discussion so this type of cheating would not have been feasible.  That said, oddly enough, debate 2 was the one that almost everyone universally thought she lost. 

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Duc888's picture



Just remember, Hillary is honest.  All Democrats are good.  Hillary has your best interests in mind.  Hillary never lies.  Progressives are also honest and would never cheat.

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Money Counterfeiter (not verified) Duc888 Oct 21, 2016 6:00 PM

POS Zionist.

PrayingMantis's picture



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back to basics's picture

At this point, all I can master energy to do anymore is shake my head in disgust.

Al Gophilia's picture

If this is rigged then so will the vote. All Trump supporters should stay at the booth on the day as a show of force. That could be our only chance at non-violent revolution. Identify with the group, T shirts (Bill is a Rapist!), placards, hats etc.

Turn up!

Rise Up!

Al Gophilia's picture

Not even with your hand would I do that.

erkme73's picture

At the risk of getting a bunch of TDs, I'll say that it looks like stage light reflection off of some glossy wood.  Both look to have the same cubby hole, and it might just be that the angle of the cameras reflect some of the stage lighting on hers but not his.   In the first video, as they walk away from the podiums, it dims on hers because perhaps the light causing the reflection was dimming since the event was concluding?  

For the record, I voted Trump, and I wouldn't put it past HRC to cheat.  But, I think for the brainwashed masses to be convinced that this is a 'teleprompter', or somehow a smoking gun that she cheated, I think it's too ambiguous.   Unfortunately.

Now, if she really had the meltdown after the Laur segment, then I hope to god someone got that on video and releases it SOON.

Occident Mortal's picture

Resign yourselves to the fact that HRC is going to win.

Trump has been both outmanoeuvred and double-crossed.

But I don't think Trump is about to disappear. Here is a man who can hold a vendetta.

I think he is getting ready to launch Trump TV which will compete with Fox News and be a kind of American version of RT. He is going to have an entire TV channel dedicated to anti-establishment politics and he is going to run as an independent in 2020.

swmnguy's picture

I agree up until your last clause.  I don't think Trump wants to take the pay cut to be President, for one thing.  And his entire adult life, he's done whatever the hell he pleases.  The President can't do that.  He'll be what, 74 in 2020?  Nah, he'd far rather have his own TV channel to do with as he pleases.  He'd be far more powerful than a President who has to do that crap all the time.

Escrava Isaura's picture

It’s fascinating watching the America far right (libertarians, nationalists, ultraconservatives) all in this election. Even the kitchen sink “teleprompter” they’re throwing into our political and our social systems. Now, are they right or wrong in doing so? Or, does it really matter?

On the surface one would not think so. But I think it matters a lot. Wonder why?

What will happen if they lose?

Or worse, let’s imagine that Trump won.

Will the “vast majority” of clueless Americans know, or have a clue what will be coming in either case?

Trump doesn’t know how to lose unless there’s something for him to gain. I do wonder what the system will have to offer the Devil for his concession speech? And good luck to them post election, because it will be impossible to govern, especially for the Republicans.


Now, the picture is much clear if Trump wins, and below is a good take, in my opinion. Found it very insightful. It’s by Norman Pagett: The “weimar Period” puts it very neatly

It really is worth reading up on Hi-ler’s speeches in the 30s—Trump word for word pretty much. HRC cant deliver any more than trump can, because the resources do not exist to “make America great again” or even to sustain the economy at its current level.

when Hit-ler was saying exactly the same thing he had to invade Poland to sustain his fantasy, and despite the wailing and contrition in 1945—the German people cheered him on when he was initially successful. The same millions are cheering Trump now.

When the system collapses, as it must (as Hit-ler’s ponzi scheme), the chaos that will ensure will demand the takeover by a dictator, because faced with breakdown of society, governments have no option but to introduce martial law and in US political terms—that means a theofascism—the godbotherering wannabe dictators are waiting in the wings.
The military will fall in behind whoever pays their wages. There’s no Poland to invade, and subjugate therefore the only “masses” to subjugate will be the American people—at least that section of them who are “unbelievers”—ie any kind of minority—and ultimately political opponent.
We all know what happened to minorities in Germany in the 30s. The same thing will happen again—someone has to take the blame for what’s gone wrong wth the country and its economy. The parallels are exact.

The constitution?

Democracy is the child of affluence. It ends when democracy ends.






toro's picture

The Game has been rigged for ages. That's why Hillary will be POTUS. Predictable. http://bit.ly/1p1jKnr

philipat's picture

Hey toro, previously mofio then santafe then Aristotle of Greece then Gargoyle then bleu then oops then lance-a-lot then most recently Loftie. Looks like Loftie got banned or just outed. I shall miss him! Let’s see how long toro survives, shall we?

You are a serial spammer and a serial pain in the ass. Might I politely suggest that you go fuck yourself? And get a life.

PS. You might have noticed that my attempt to expose you for what you are is always the same. That’s because your Spam is always the same (Using fake links to your BS site which has no connection to your comments; which are deliberately dramatic to mislead people into responding or clicking on the fake link) so it seems only fair that my exposure of your crap should also always be the same. An eye for an eye.

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jeff montanye's picture

that al smith dinner sounds like it was quite the do; will have to see both speeches.


the part of hillary's third debate performance that seeemed the oddest was the "surprise" question at the end as to why the voters should support them.  hillary was first and ripped into it with nary a glance down, like she was expecting it.

trump went second and gave a worse performance on that question, imo.


Jeffersonian Liberal's picture


Thanks for tracking the asshole, motherfucking, trolling spammers on this sight.

It is good to know someone is watching these cowardly, self-serving, stupid pieces of shit and tracking the history of their usernames so we know not to click their spam links and to ignore these jackasses.


philipat's picture

Thanks, I'm just trying to do my bit for the community. There are other spammers but I can't do it all so will continue to expose this fucking idiot so that the community will no longer make the mistake of clicking on his fake links.

JuliaS's picture

You can always spot how many fake accounts that piece of shit has by how many upvotes he gets. I keep reporting him to Tylers but it always takes over a week for him to black list the accounts. I'm surprised they haven't IP blocked him, or made a template detecting the same bogus link he provides. Right about now I'm starting to miss Fonestar.

philipat's picture

I always do report him to the Tylers but it takes a week. I have also suggested that they IP block him and I don't know why they won't do that unless he is using fale IP addresses also? I'll amend my message which (now automatically) resonds to his spam to include a request that other ZH regulars report him to abuse. Perhaps more complaints will get him either permanently blocked or at leaset account blocked more quickly.

cornflakesdisease's picture

abuse@zerohedge.com.  They are very good about getting rid of spammers in about 48 hours.

Antifaschistische's picture

The problem with Trump, is that even though he can be goofy sometimes, and a jerk sometimes, I personally do not believe he is a fundamentally evil person.   That being the case, he doesn't understand the mind of the evil that exist within the Hillary types.  He is just learning of all the crooked things that are done to rig EVERYTHING!!   If I were Trump, I would have hired PIs all over that place taking video of EVERYTHING from every angle to catch this witch.   Trump just still doesn't completely understand what he was up against.

Bubba Rum Das's picture

You're really clever, aren't you MoFo...er, Loftie...

StagStopa's picture

You have no clue what you are talking about. Poland was massing her armies against Helder, er I mean germany.


The master was in a battle against time, and hugely outnumbered. He knew Germany had only one chance for survival. 

Sadly, he lost his gambit.

Now look at Germany and europe.

Who was right?

Heil Roxi

Escrava Isaura's picture

Poland invading Germany? Where do you learn such nonsense.

First, the populations of Poland in 1939: 35 million.

Germany: 67 million. Almost twice larger.

Now, if you compared military mighty between both nation, there isn’t a conversation, because Germany military superiority overwhelmed even the Russians that were much more armed than the Poles could ever dreamed.


To Hitler, the conquest of Poland would bring Lebensraum, or “living space,” for the German people. According to his plan, the “racially superior” Germans would colonize the territory and the native Slavs would be enslaved. German expansion had begun in 1938 with the annexation of Austria and then continued with the occupation of the Sudetenland and then all of Czechoslovakia in 1939. Both had been accomplished without igniting hostilities with the major powers, and Hitler hoped that his invasion of Poland would likewise be tolerated.



Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

Because Socialism/Fascism/Communism is working so well in Brazil, right dip shit?

Escrava Isaura's picture

Obviously that you don’t know the real meaning of any of these three.


Not My Real Name's picture

Obviously that you don’t know the real meaning of any of these three.

Typical liberal/statist/progressive response. When cornered, play word games to obfuscate and deflect. 

Okay ... let's call what is going on in Brazil and Venezuela right now at this very moment: "zzyzx." 

The bottom line is you are in favor of -- and espouse the "virtues" of zzyzx -- here on an almost daily basis. 

You are pro-zzyzx. And you are a fool.

Offthebeach's picture

Not well educated.

Upton Sinclair, author 'Grapes of Wrath, The Jungle,. ' wrote ' It Can't Happen Here' in the 1930s.

Leonard Piekoff wrote 'The Ominous Parallels' in 1982.

The Ominous Parallels: The End of Freedom in America is a 1982 book by philosopher Leonard Peikoff, in which Peikoff compares the culture of the United States with the culture of Germany leading up to the Nazis......

Escrava Isaura's picture

Did you read my post?

Because we’re talking in circles.


J Jason Djfmam's picture

John Steinbeck wrote The Grapes of Wrath.

unrulian's picture

When liberals can't win a policy debate they attack the person calling them bigots, racists and make Hitler comparisons; same old douche baggery 

Escrava Isaura's picture

Try this:

When conservatives can't win a policy debate they attack the person calling them bigots, racists and make Hitler comparisons; same old douche baggery 

The difference between the intellectuals conservatives and liberals is how they access power, because the outcome is the same that that is, how they program and indoctrinated the people into submission without bloodshed.


unrulian's picture

So now it's "I'm a mirror and your glue" ...good one

tmosley's picture

You do realize that there isn't a single user here that thinks that anything you have to say is worth reading a comment that long, right?

Escrava Isaura's picture

The argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy that claims some truth of a premise is based on the fact that it has not been proven false.


Chris88's picture

Far right? With a leftist as a GOP nominee and leftist nominee for the LP?  You make MDB look like a genius.

Glasater55's picture

You're assuming there WILL be a 2020..I'm not so certain..

effendi's picture

That is also my concern. By 2020 any number of new laws, any number of new "interpretations" of the constitution and any number of advances in NSA overreach may make access to/acting upon the truth a dangerous exercise. I'm sure that in Germany the opposition in 1932 thought that they would have another shot in 1936 if Hitler got away with stealing the '32 election.

Withnail's picture

 Nah, he'd far rather have his own TV channel to do with as he pleases.  He'd be far more powerful than a President who has to do that crap all the time. 

Um, I don't think so. 

Any halfwit with the rights to Dukes of Hazzard reruns and an ungodly pornstar mustache can set up a TV channel and make a good living (i.e., Ted Turner), but only 44 men have been chosen to be President. It's a much more exclusive club; plus, you get to be chosen by the people as their leader. Trump would rather have this title than an easy retirement, having come this close.  His campaign has generated way more excitement without the media's help than any other since Reagan's. 


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Chris Dakota (not verified) swmnguy Oct 22, 2016 12:38 AM

I said it was very dangerous Oct 16-21 with Mars conjunct Pluto at 15* Capricorn.

That is where the elites get the knife in the heart.

It happened at that Catholic dinner in NYC with media and Wall St bailout recipients.

Donald delivered it for us.

The Ruling Elite Has Lost the Consent of the Governed

Brimming with hubris and self-importance, the ruling Elite and mainstream media cannot believe they have lost the consent of the governed.

Every ruling Elite needs the consent of the governed: even autocracies, dictatorships and corporatocracies ultimately rule with the consent, however grudging, of the governed.

The American ruling Elite has lost the consent of the governed.

I was wrong, it wasn't a act of war between global powers, it is an act of war declared by Donald Trump on our behalf.

With the money channel whore dressed in scarlet with her tits out and white leather gloves on behind The Donald. The whole thing has been a magic lantern show put on by Hollywood to entertain the sheep. While wages go down, jobs shipped out and cheap labor flooding in.

The Catholics support Hillary's rape of Haiti and phony chairty that she enriched herself with.  They were even uneasy with Donalds statement that "we need to celebrate the culture of life" meaning don't use abortion as birth control. Tim Kaine a Jesuit, which is basically a Jewish organization and Hillary 24 hrs before saying she supports partial birth abortion. They couldn't wait to congradulate her and fawn all over her.

Dying Killer Kissinger melting behind the white funeral flowers in the  pyramid table arrangement.

I should have known at 15* Capricorn it would be this. Watching them boo and hiss at him, he was us and that was the knife in the heart with all masks down.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre    The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere    The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst   

Are full of passionate intensity.

-Willam Butler Yeats

This party is just getting started, I said it was going to start now and the real action (Execution of French King, Execution of English King) takes place at the Pluto/Uranus opposition in 2046-2048.

Jewish power is hanging by a thread, that's only 30 yrs.

I won't be here in this form, but maybe you will be.

Squid Viscous's picture

yes- maria bartiromo is a disgusting whore from brooklyn, who blew her way through wall st. to get to where she is now,

faux business "news" LOL, good work, you plucked chicken looking cunt

fattail's picture

Astrology????  You're kidding right??? This is a financial website.  Logic and Reason only please.

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) fattail Oct 22, 2016 2:50 PM

I don't post on the money threads, however I did give you guys Brexit three days before, seems like your could have made money on that...lol

This is a political thread, duh.

Soul Glow's picture

If she has a telepromter Trump is in the know.  So then he is letting her read answers.  He's in on the rigging.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

I was about to go Fight Club on you, and I figured I would use Breitbart as the opening right hook. Except there is no mention of the podiums anywhere on the front page - top to bottom. How is it that ZH and Anonymous are touting smoking gun videos and Drudge and BB.com don't want to touch it?

fattail's picture

Good point.  Nothing left to chance.  I was so frustrated with Trump and his stupid, banal, vapid speeches, and the fact that I could make all of the arguments against clinton better than him.  Now it makes sense.

charms's picture

Could very well be.

How do you get an incompetent corrupt, and malignant candidate elected? You stand them off against some other tainted character that will be just as controllable.

The pupetmasters have run this model to ground. They are not prepared to lose.

Cynicles's picture

"(re: Trump)...he's done whatever the hell he pleases. The President can't do that."

not familiar with Øbama?

janus's picture

The fall of legacy media has assumed about it the hue of 'epic saga'.  The People are really rooting for us.  Legacy media, so thoroughly detested among the masses as it is, having in this last election permanently offended over 80% of their audience with demonstrative hostility to both of The People's candidates (Donald Trump & Bernie Sanders), will NEVER regain any semblance of trust or veneration in the broader public's sentiments.  This David & Goliath epic being all the more heroic as The People know, in their heart of hearts, that these scheming gremlins in the media are rotten to the core, and they similarly know that we're pure of heart and motive.  It truly is good vs. evil story-book heroics...and the crowd is roaring for us with each blow stricken.  This is serious; The People not only want to see them defeated, they seek a punitive spectacle, they demand a grand finale -- the ornery and agitated  mob lusts for its pound of flesh.  Gotta give the people what they want.  

A servant to all is mastered by none -- this has been my governing philosophy since declaring war on this establishment some five years ago. Before initiating phase one of my campaign and this adventure in Boston, I owned a restaurant back in Alabama.  In that time, I learned a little bit about satisfying the public's appetite...in a distinct and idiosyncratic way.  I've gone about revolution is just such a fashion -- iconaclastic and idiosyncratic.  I've often had to improvise, but have always adhered to an overarching strategy...or i should say 'recipe'.  I've been working on a formula of sorts...cooking up something for The People's consumption.  I've been sorta chronicling my adventures within the broader context of this societal/political shift -- a seismic rearrangement of prevailing paradigm so profound and absolute you won't see anything like it for another millennia.  Yes, I knew something BIG was abrew in the machinations of this species back in Hickstick, Alabama.  Feeling janus had the wherewithal and talents sufficient to make some contribution to this great turning, I devoted myself wholly to it. I'm not alone.  There are many who've risked everything.  And it makes for a great story.  But beyond the story, and regarding phase two, I have a bit of surprise up my sleeve for tptb: the truth is, janus is a more effective and persuasive speaker than writer.  Please forgive me for saying so, and I do say this from a sense of rational modesty, but I have something of a gift for words and their arrangement.  Again, I'm not attempting to boast -- I mean really, I would not keep going if I didn't know what kind of impact we're having on the Hedge... janus has from the beginning pledged his gifts to this campaign...us vs. them...good vs. evil.  All the while I'd been hiding the greater talent under a bushel, preparing to make of it another donation.

tptb, you will soon be forced to deal with my perspicacity in an extemporaneous setting.  There will be no way to mitigate the damages nor prepare. Imagine if you will the fearlessness, confidence and courage of Donald Trump but from a manner imminently polite and courteous -- even to a fault.  Think about the quick and nimble thinking of Trump expressed with a command of language and erudition that would make Cicero jealous.  Throw into this the ability to instantly structure highly complex arguments that are both cogent and stimulating to a wise mind.  all of which is to say -- and pardon my french -- tptb, you're fucked.  One way or another, janus will soon start speaking...you have my permission to start freaking.  I told you all from the beginning, ain't a goddam thing you can do to stop me.  I'm better than you all...you used to laugh and now you gulp.  What's that ole saying about laughing last?


heh heh heh

Meanwhile, as I rest and prepare my vocal chords, chef janus will carve another pound of flesh from the carcass of a freshly slain legacy-media, slicing off a hunk while the beast still simpers and serve it to the public rare, with the blood still in it.  (just wait till I rip their heart out while it beats for the grande finale) I've entitled it:

As The Pendulum Swings

The ponderous procession of Providence is subject to the laws of stasis and extremes.  All things tend to extremes and then return, ever so temporarily, to the equilibrium of stasis -- this is the pattern of dynamism in nature; the inertia intrinsic to this swing back to stasis has a value slightly greater than the force which propelled it to the most recent and retreating extreme.  As this relates to the mass-sentiments governing the hive-mind of mankind, we are just now starting the descent from a peak of institutional perfidy.  The political pendulum is edging ever so slightly away from a totalitarian control matrix so absolute it would make stalin blush.  We will soon pick up speed and then accelerate quickly to arrests and trials.  But the extreme to which these devils have pushed The People being so far beyond what's ever been done in the civilized world, I feel that by the time this is all over, we will see guillotines.  Understand, this pitch of acrimony is still only nascent.  Once the dollar goes and everyone's investments, jobs, food stamps, etc., we are going to see a ferocity within the masses unique in all of history.  

yes, media clowns, you are in great peril.  The people will be calling for your hides.  Sure, you won't be the only targets, but you'll most certainly be a focus.  How do you like it now that it's your emails being hacked and scrutinized?  How will you like it when your sordid private lives are exposed?  You thought it was funny when you were on the inside; but now that things are turning inside out, do you feel so insulated?  Think you're protected?  hardly...your masters will happily throw you to the baying mob hoping your hide will sate their appetite.  Your fates are only these: prison, death or, if you're lucky, menial service sector jobs.  Yes, those of you wise enough to start speaking the truth now will be spared prison or something more severe.  I recommend you exercise this option.  Perhaps you think janus is exaggerating...but after everything that's happened, do you think it wise to bet on tptb?  janus has peered into the future.  Predictable outcome: Good Guys win.  Not even close.  In fact, you could call it a blood-bath:


You reap what you sow in this world.  The metaphysical concept of equilibrium is what we call justice; justice necessarily involves punitive measures.  You journalists are the custodians of democracy.  You have abrogated your end of the social contract.  You have betrayed The Public in service to wickedness.  Whether you did so from fear or to curry favor with The People's enemies is largely immaterial, you cast your lot with evil which has for a while flourished -- you just so happen to be involved in the time of its denoument...sucks to be you.  In aiding and abetting the deception and fleecing of the public, you have several wars to your credit, rivers of blood stain you hands, the mass poisoning of the people has been undertaken as you advanced it...you have not only sat back and watched The People suffer, you have contributed your life's work to that end.  

Same as Nuremberg, 'just following orders' will not be a permissible defense.  As to this equilibrium and its relationship to the concept of justice, when the punishments are meted out, they will be far more severe than you can now fathom, but they will be proportionate to the sentiments of the time.  When the pendulum reaches the other extreme of its travel, when The People discover the level of your involvement and participation, an eye for an eye won't do -- they'll be demanding two.  Mark my words, legacy media.  Be ye therefore wise and know the signs of the times.

Donald Trump is just the beginning...there are several more volumes to this story...and the best part is, there's a very happy ending.

The little seeds cast about here on the Hedge have germinated and are starting to take root in The Public...just wait till they bloom:


{btw, the above song is from a band to which i give a five star recommendation...first such honor since Houndmouth...and so, i introduce the Hedge to Shovels and Rope (gotta love that name)}