Trump Slams "Voter Suppression", Cites "Oversampling" As Evidence Of Rigged Polls

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Referencing both an analysis of the latest ABC/WaPo poll that showed Hillary Clinton with a 12 point advantage, driven largely by a 9 point surplus of polled Democrats, and an email first pointed out here on Sunday evening, citing a leaked Podesta email from the 2008 Democratic primary which pitted Clinton against Obama and which spelled out recommendations on "oversamples for polling" in order to "maximize what we get out of our media polling", Trump used the ongoing Wikileaks disclosures to bolster charges that the presidential election is being rigged against him.

During a campaign rally Monday in Florida, Trump accused the media and Democrats of "voter suppression." He argued that national polls that show Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton with a healthy lead are based on a sampling that is too heavily Democratic, adding that media outlets are essentially making polls that show Clinton with a wide lead in order to suppress turnout by his supporters.

“When they leave the polls alone, I'm leading. But you see these polls, they are polling Democrats,” he said, swatting aside the polls with his hand.

“It's called voter suppression, because people will say, 'Aw, gee, Trump's out.'  Folks, we are winning. These thieves and crooks, the media, not all of it but much of it, they are the most crooked, almost as crooked as Hillary. They may even be more crooked than Hillary because without the media, she'd be nothing.”

As we have reported before, one generally accepted "scientific" reason for the oversampling is due to historical patterns suggesting a decline in voting interest among GOP voters over the past decade: exit polls from 2012 showed that identified Democrats made up 38% of the national electorate, while self-professed Republicans made up 32% . Exit polls from 2008 showed a similar trend, although the 2004 presidential election, the numbers were tied: 37% of those voting were registered Democrats, and 37% were registered Republicans.

However, one particular characteristic about the current election cycle, and a reason why extrapolating the historical pattern has been criticized, is that Trump's campaign is seen as generally more "exciting" for republican voters at a time of record polarization and engagement, suggesting that more registered republicans could show up at the polls, breaking from recent tradition, which however is not reflected in the ongoing oversampling of democrats.

Trump jumped on this nuance and sought to link the Clinton campaign to the media’s effort by pointing to the January 2008 email released by WikiLeaks from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s account, in which Democrats talk about “oversampling” polls, the email first presented here

“WikiLeaks also shows how John Podesta rigged the polls by oversampling Democrats, a voter suppression technique,” Trump said during his rally in St. Augustine, Fla. As The Hill added today, in the email, campaign strategists for Clinton discuss recommendations for oversampling in their polls. "The 2008 email doesn't specifically explain why the Democratic strategists on the email exchange want to oversample in their polling."

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roxyNL's picture

 

Trump should stop nagging, he is just embarassing himself !

 

Au Member's picture

Clinton should stop committing charity fraud

Jim Sampson's picture

It's only fraud if you aren't part of the Elite.

major major major major's picture

Fraud built this world and if you don't like it you can leave...

roxyNL's picture

 

Our whole world is built on fraud : Fractional reserve banking or selling what you don't have

 

The Alarmist's picture

I had someone quoting a compliance policy on accepting gifts and entertainment, and I floored her by saying, "You know, the world economy didn't really go into the tank until they started pushing this ethics and compliance crap in earnest back in 2007 or so.  Things were really humming in the days when they would offer us hookers and blow!"

I'll let you know next week if I still have a job.  Not because of the ethics crap, but because I referred to the obvious misuse of female companionship.

J S Bach's picture

The more this guy opens his mouth, the more I love him.  Keep pouring it on the media, Don, for you are absolutely correct -- they are collectively MORE guilty of treason than the witch herself.  Without them shielding her from every new unethical revelation, she'd be mopping floors and munching carpet in a women's prison right now (if not ascending the gallows to a fate she more truly deserves).

MANvsMACHINE's picture

Because Hillary has such a HUUUUGGGEEEE lead over The Donald, it is less imperative that Hillary's supporters will actually vote.  The Donald's supporters are rabid and loyal and therefore, will not be deterred based on faux polls.

Creative_Destruct's picture

Sounds like it MIGHT be a plausible thesis:

General dumbass public lulled into complacency by MSM reports of "mammoth" lead of Hillary, Hillary already preparing transition team. etc.

Trump supporters galvanized by alt media and Wikileaks showing clear corruption and criminality.

Complacent general public doesn't turn out to vote in high numbers.

Motivated Trump supporters turn out in droves.

Trump wins. Holds  up NYT saying "Clinton Defeats Trump"

Dewy & Truman reprised....

Occident Mortal's picture

Hmmmm,

What's interesting is that the Chinese are openly pointing to this election in their own media as an example of why communism is better than democracy.

They are pointing and laughing.

"Look how corrupt all of them", "look how easy hack this woman", "look at fat rich man with diaper mouth", "weak fainting woman favourite to lead", "look fat rich man all confused", "look Obama nobody listening"...

Dancing Disraeli's picture

People with such tiny dicks really shouldn't judge.  No offense.

yippee kiyay's picture
yippee kiyay (not verified) Dancing Disraeli Oct 24, 2016 10:37 PM

W Bush stole the 2000 elections. Hillary will do the honors this year. http://bit.ly/1p1jKnr

philipat's picture

Hey yippee kiyay, previously mofio then santafe then Aristotle of Greece then Gargoyle then bleu then oops then lance-a-lot then Loftie then toro. Would appreciate regular ZH contributors please take a moment to help me in my campaign against this idiot and report yippee kiyay to abuse@zerohedge.com.

You are a serial spammer and a serial pain in the ass. Might I politely suggest that you go fuck yourself? And get a life.

PS. You might have noticed that my attempt to expose you for what you are is always the same. That’s because your Spam is always the same (Using fake links to your BS site which has no connection to your comments; which are deliberately dramatic to mislead people into responding or clicking on the fake link) so it seems only fair that my exposure of your crap should also always be the same. An eye for an eye.

DavidC's picture

philipat,
Keep it up!

DavidC

itsabruise's picture

I think they are taking turns screwing the public.  Or maybe doing rock, paper scissors behind the scenes to determine which party leads this time.  Either way, we get robbed.

Supafly's picture

What hasn't been taken into consideration is that the type of person who is backing Trump comes from a group that takes the long view.  They will be voting while the short sighted dimwits will be complacent.  I almost think that the establishment wants him in as an excuse to let the artificially inflated economy collapse as it should have a long time ago.

FEDbuster's picture

This is a new game changing Trump video!  Watch and share.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw

gigaweb's picture

That's my thinking also - Hillary doesn't need her supporters' votes, so they won't bother.  Trump's supporters see him as the underdog and vote with both hands & feet.

Donald J. Trump's picture

They're probably polling people at Hillary rallies.

Anyone think DT is a fellow ZH'er?

Oliver Klozoff's picture

After a sufficient time, say tomorrow, lets discuss the answer to voter suppression, i.e. limiting voter participation to tax payers and veterans.

Kidbuck's picture

What candidate has given braver speeches in our lifetime?

Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) J S Bach Oct 24, 2016 8:12 PM

Right.

I say cut your TV and attack the press every place you find them.

They are our only eyes and ears on these suckers in DC and they decided to engage in Soviet style propaganda.

They should be run out of this country, but who would take em?

bodybag em

sixsigma cygnusatratus's picture

"Trump should stop nagging, he is just embarassing himself !"

I want Trump to make minimum wage $1.15/hr retroactively to Jan 1, 2016.  And repeal the 19th Amendment.  That should give the paid trolls something to think about.

HedgeJunkie's picture

And demand, retroactively, all payments made to government employees for that time period.

 

Seems to be ok if it's done to the military.  So should be fine for the rest of goobermint.

major major major major's picture

Testing peoples sarc radar... must be scrambled for the first readers and then came the bandwagon... I changed the normal "cuntry" to "world" and did not say go to North Korea so that probably threw some folks off. I guess telling people their alternative to fraud is killing themselves somehow is a reasonable viewpoint these days????

 

But leaving where I left off... yes, full on cliton superortttter, loves me some fraud in the morning... better than coffee. Support either guillotine or cell.

 

Fraud for president 2016!

conraddobler's picture

When you say elite you mean of course only that they are those to whom the rules do not apply right?

 

Latina Lover's picture

Clinton Supporters keep embarrassing themselves by supporting an proven criminal and murderer. 

adeptish's picture

Trump is going to get medieval on Hilda

nope-1004's picture

Check these Twitter usage stats out:

http://socialblade.com/twitter/user/realdonaldtrump

http://socialblade.com/twitter/user/hillaryclinton

 

Trump has double the retweets and likes.  No comparison with whose message is making a difference.

 

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Takeaction2 (not verified) nope-1004 Oct 24, 2016 5:23 PM

Cool Data  Thanks

cheech_wizard's picture

I'm rated a "C-" I take enormous pride in being an under-achiever.

 

N0TME's picture

Clinton should just keep her mouth shut.

HedgeJunkie's picture

She does.  That's why Monica became famous.

Tallest Skil's picture

Thanks for collapsing the rectum.

vulcanraven's picture

At this point, if people aren't convinced Trump is the real deal, there is nothing left to say. He has to know half the country will be coming for him and his families heads if it turns out he was a fraud.  That should be enough to keep him honest.

BabaLooey's picture

Hey fucktwit.

If Hillary is so "up" in the polls, why are you ordered to keep trolling?

YOU embarass yourself by aligning with a total piece of shit.

Democrats RIG elections. 50 + YEARS of this, and MOUNTAINS of proof exist as to it.

Dead people. SuperPooperScooper"delegates".

More ROCK SOLID evidence of crimes committed than Whitey Bulger on a bender.

Face it - people "for" Clinton are mindless, brainless assholes.

Nice to be included in that mosh pit of RV waste - aren't you?

Wallow in the collective effluvium.

Maxter's picture

17 weeks old anti Trump account. Not surprised.

froze25's picture

And after Nov 8 we will never hear of them again.

Almost Solvent's picture

There was user back in 2012 doing the same thing. Had a pelosi in joker makeup avatar, but he started early in the primaries and was literally gone the day before the election. 

AtATrESICI's picture

Don't be such a CLINTON CUNT.

DaddyO's picture

Quack, Quack!!!!!!!!!

Troll...

DaddyO

Singelguy's picture

I think you are watching too much RTL, NOS, or any of the other mainstream media over there. They are all in the tank for Hitlery. You must really like Erik Mouthaan's reports from New York. He is RTL's resident Trump hater and Hillary cunt licker. Never heard him say a good word about Trump. Wake up and get a grip on the real world. Oh, and just so you know, the French, German, and British MSM are all in the tank for Hillary as well.

WhollyShiite's picture

Judging by all the evidence that's right in front of my nose, Trump supporters will be turning out in droves. Allah be praised.

AllTimeWhys's picture

I will laugh if Jill Stein gets more votes than Hillary

WestVillageIdiot's picture

Sadly, I still look around and there are just so many dumbass Hillary supporters.  I was speaking to one of them last week.  This is a college grad who seems pretty intelligence.  The words I was hearing were so stupid, so completely misinformed, that I just realized how totally screwed this country is. 

The Clinton zombies may just be too numerous.  I hope not, but I am not optimistic.

CheapBastard's picture

Every one I know is voting for Trump --lower taxes, limits on rapefugees, jobs, safer streets, jobs, The Wall, anti-TPP, end to the freaking Bush/Obama/Hitlery wars, and did I mention jobs?

 

What's not to like? if it were not for all the media misinformation and lies, Hitlery would be gone long ago. Trump is right.

new game's picture

HCMAGCD - hope, change, make america great, cog dis

or 

HCCD

Almost Solvent's picture

I'm in upstate NY and the only 'rabid' Hillary supporters I run into are women voting for her simply because she is a woman and/or because Trump can be crude. Never any specifics on her history with woman that crossed her or Bill, nor what she has ever accomplished other than being a woman. They never refer to Bill as a rapist and just sweep that under the rug (usually turning it into a plus for Hillary for sticking with a 'womanizer'). Then in the next breath turn around and call Trump all sort of evil and whatnot. This guy has been in the public sphere since the 1980s – everyone knew Trump was a self-promoter with the NYC attitude to go along with it.

These women are also posting shit on Facebook about not knowing anyone voting for Trump and/or announcing that anyone voting for Trump is a scumbag and forever marked in their minds as a "Drumpf" supporter. They love trying to change his last name as an insult. It's insane.

At any rate, all the Trump supporters I know either lie about not supporting Trump or lie about voting for Hillary. This 'might' be a landslide, but I think for Trump. If he's close in NY (I doubt he can win with Cuomo and deBlasio running the NYC machine), then he should win this, and I will take great delight in listening to these same women go hysterical or worse. Hopefully they start to question how a Trump victory happened and maybe even question these bullshit MSM stories they take in without question and spew back out without any critical thinking.