Secret Recordings Fueled Mutinous FBI Investigation of Clintons Despite DOJ Orders To "Stand Down"

Tyler Durden's picture

It's looking increasingly like there is an ongoing mutiny underway within the FBI as the Wall Street Journal is reporting that, according to "officials at multiple agencies", FBI agents felt they had adequate evidence, including "secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation", to pursue an investigation of the Clinton Foundation but were repeatedly obstructed by officials at the Department of Justice.

Secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation fueled an internal battle between FBI agents who wanted to pursue the case and corruption prosecutors who viewed the statements as worthless hearsay, people familiar with the matter said.


The roots of the dispute lie in a disagreement over the strength of the case, these people said, which broadly centered on whether Clinton Foundation contributors received favorable treatment from the State Department under Hillary Clinton.


Senior officials in the Justice Department and the FBI didn’t think much of the evidence, while investigators believed they had promising leads their bosses wouldn’t let them pursue, they said.

Despite clear signals from the Justice Department to abandon the Clinton Foundation inquiries, many FBI agents refused to stand down.  Then, earlier this year in February 2016, the FBI presented initial evidence at a meeting with Leslie Caldwell, the head of the DOJ's criminal division, after which agents were delivered a clear message that "we're done here."  But, as the WSJ points out, DOJ became increasing frustrated with FBI agents that were "disregarding or disobeying their instructions" which subsequently prompted an emphatic "stand down" message from the DOJ to "all the offices involved."

As 2015 came to a close, the FBI and Justice Department had a general understanding that neither side would take major action on Clinton Foundation matters without meeting and discussing it first. In February, a meeting was held in Washington among FBI officials, public-integrity prosecutors and Leslie Caldwell, the head of the Justice Department’s criminal division. Prosecutors from the Eastern District of New York—Mr. Capers’ office—didn’t attend, these people said.


The public-integrity prosecutors weren’t impressed with the FBI presentation, people familiar with the discussion said. “The message was, ‘We’re done here,’ ” a person familiar with the matter said.


Justice Department officials became increasingly frustrated that the agents seemed to be disregarding or disobeying their instructions.


Following the February meeting, officials at Justice Department headquarters sent a message to all the offices involved to “stand down,’’ a person familiar with the matter said.


The FBI had secretly recorded conversations of a suspect in a public-corruption case talking about alleged deals the Clintons made, these people said. The agents listening to the recordings couldn’t tell from the conversations if what the suspect was describing was accurate, but it was, they thought, worth checking out.



Despite the warnings, FBI agents continued to press forward leading to a tense August 12th call between a "senior DOJ official" and the FBI deputy director, Andrew McCabe, which ended abruptly when McCabe bluntly asked "are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?"

In subsequent conversations with the Justice Department, Mr. Capers told officials in Washington that the FBI agents on the case “won’t let it go,” these people said.


As a result of those complaints, these people said, a senior Justice Department official called the FBI deputy director, Mr. McCabe, on Aug. 12 to say the agents in New York seemed to be disregarding or disobeying their instructions, these people said. The conversation was a tense one, they said, and at one point Mr. McCabe asked, “Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?’’ The senior Justice Department official replied: ”Of course not.”

With that, it seems that we're starting to get a little more insight into why the FBI didn't "follow protocol" by alerting the DOJ before sending their most recent letter to Congress announcing the re-opening of Hillary's email investigation.

Meanwhile, Fox News reported earlier this evening that "sources" claim to have an "avalanche of evidence" in their case against Hillary and that "barring obstruction" they would continue to push for an indictment.  The next 5 days should be very interesting.

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ShortTheUS's picture

Me so happy!!


Bret Baier: FBI Sources Believe Clinton Foundation Case Moving Towards "Likely an Indictment"

Mr. Universe's picture

So are we renaming this The Department of Obstruction of Justice?

Omen IV's picture

Time for the FBI to go to the Supreme Court with the Congressional Investigating Committee to call the Grand Jury - Lynch is a co conspirator and a Clinton Criminal  and will never do what is necessary

Delving Eye's picture

Hope to God Obama doesn't pardon Hillump ... but he will. Lynch too. Damn!

PrayingMantis's picture


... I posted this on the other thread ... this might have something to do with the FBI agents' mutiny ... ("sources" claim to have an "avalanche of evidence") ...


... btw Tylers, ... are there any developments about this "bombshell" that will sink hiliary et. al. waiting to be confirmed?

... it's posted on True Pundit >>> "BREAKING BOMBSHELL: NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes with Children, Child Exploitation, Pay to Play, Perjury" ... >>> 

... and here as well on the Victurus Libertas You Tube channel >>> "BREAKING BOMBSHELL ! FBI NYPD INSIDERS LEAK - Email Scandal About To Take A SICK And TWISTED Turn"  >>> ...


El Vaquero's picture

If NYPD has that shit, it needs to leak the shit about the children exploitation soon. Hillary needs to be so toxic that for Obama to pardon her will make him persona non grata in the US. Although, I expect that Hilldawg has made it clear that if she goes down, he goes down. That is just her style.

PrayingMantis's picture


... the report says subpoenas are sent out for cell phones and other travel documents ... I assume that investigations are under way ...

... also, the report says ..."... “What’s in the emails is staggering and as a father, it turned my stomach,” the NYPD Chief said. “There is not going to be any Houdini-like escape from what we found. We have copies of everything. We will ship them to Wikileaks or I will personally hold my own press conference if it comes to that.”  The NYPD Chief said once Comey saw the alarming contents of the emails he was forced to reopen a criminal probe against Clinton.  “People are going to prison,” he said. "...


... the report further continues ...  "... NYPD sources said Weiner or Abedin stored all the emails in a massive Microsoft Outlook program on the laptop. The emails implicate other current and former members of Congress and one high-ranking Democratic Senator as having possibly engaged in criminal activity too, sources said. " ...


... if this is all true, we'll see ...


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yippee kiyay (not verified) PrayingMantis Nov 2, 2016 10:17 PM

And to think they want us to believe that conspiracies are only theories. Pffft.

Mano-A-Mano's picture
Mano-A-Mano (not verified) yippee kiyay Nov 2, 2016 10:18 PM

I don't usually like conspiracies, but when I do, I prefer a good one.

38BWD22's picture



Shut the Klinton Foundation down and take their money away from them!

The FBI is now on the verge of national ridicule, just-us for them, justice for us.  McCabe has got to go, corrupt via Terry MacAuliffe.  If Just-Us and the FBI wet-noodle $hillary, what does that tell all of us?

The entire Just-Us Department needs their collective heads chopped right off (metaphorically speaking), they are filthy corrupt.

Boycott the Clinton News Network!  CNBC not long ago went on my Boycott List.

Such dishonesty, such corruption, such criminality on so many levels...

Drain the swamp.

Trump 2016

MANvsMACHINE's picture

There are probably over 100 crimes to charge her with. The FBI should only charge her with 50. If she is pardoned by Obama, then they should charge her with the other 50 once Trump is in office.

Automatic Choke's picture

gonna need a bigger roll of tinfoil....

mtl4's picture

I hope she gets indicted right on election night.......screw these elitist MFer's 

CuttingEdge's picture

Now this is just getting daft. 

Given the fluidity of the situation, if there was needed an email today that spelled B-A-N-A-N-A  R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C, given the news flow, here it is (abbreviated out the simpering arse-licking).:


From: "PJ Kadzik"

Date: May 5, 2015 7:44 AM

Subject: Reaching Out: PJ Kadzik

To: <>

Was with my father and Amy recently, and they both suggested I reach out to you. I would love to find some time to connect and see if there may be an opportunity for me to help on the campaign.

I would be very grateful for any support or guidance you may be able to provide in my quest to work on Hilary's campaign. Again, I hope all is well and I look forward to hearing back from you.

Many thanks,

PJ Kadzik


Lots of rope required, methinks.

Bless you, Julian.

jcaz's picture

This is a moment in history for all the employees of these agencies to ask themselves which side of justice do they want to be on.....

ZD1's picture

Now we know why Obama demanded that the FBI and other Homeland Security agencies become more "diverse."

PT's picture

So at what point does the FBI simply start collecting evidence against the DOJ obstructors and hold them accountable as accessories or such?

sister tika's picture

I suspect that is 'underway' already, but not discussed or stated publicly.

onthesquare's picture

I am reminded of a statement in a movie, where the top brass tell the officer. "good work son, we'll take it from here".

When the law becomes subjective, perverse, and self-serving then you have a serious problem.

jerry_theking_lawler's picture

This is why 'laws' should be simple, clear, and apply to ALL. Then it is obvious for the average joe to know that someone has broken the law and that they should be punished....

peippe's picture

Take an aircraft carrier back to that trench where they dumped osama & deposit her there.

sessinpo's picture

Smart, but perhaps you ought to read Ford's pardon of Nixon. I'll make it simple for you.

"Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."

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scsherman (not verified) sessinpo Nov 3, 2016 11:46 AM

You are correct. This is how bad it is to have presidential pardons applicable to all crimes committed during a specified period of time. Now the caveat is that this only applies to federal crimes. State crimes, especially murder, are still in play. This is why the Clintons left Arkansas and headed to a safe haven in Jew York. The chances of charges being brought against her by the state of NY are almost impossible.

1777's picture

That's a great point. The FBI won't charge her till after the inauguration (if Trump wins)?

Bay Area Guy's picture

Except Obama will issue a blanket pardon for all crimes, even those not already charged, ala Nixon.

1777's picture

So it would be better to leak it all so she doesn't get elected, she will get a blanket pardon anyway?

And the DOJ can not play interference!


Bay Area Guy's picture

As others have stated above, leak every damn bit and make it toxic for Obama to pardon any of them, lest he ruin his "legacy".

Thankfully, it appears his true legacy is to make this the most scandal ridden administration ever.

sessinpo's picture

Well, as scsherman pointed out, a presidential pardon only applies to crimes against the united states or federal crimes, not state crimes. Any one of obama's 57 states could file charges if a state law was violated. For example, I think the state of virginia could file murder charges regarding vince foster if they had evidence. I know that won't happen, it's just an example.  A pardon also does not cover civil charges, so that would allow a place like haiti to sue them civilly.

HedgeJunkie's picture

Dochen, I'm ashamed.

I would have thought someone as sensible as you would have realized that ALL american news is merely propaganda and, therefore, not worthy of viewing.

I realized that in 2008 and, from your posts since then, I imagined that you were fully awake and alert.

Lending any credence to CNN, CNBC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TimeWarner/AOL (whatever they're called these days), Disney or any of the other five oligarchs of our new media would deem one a fool.

And I know you're not a fool, so I'll take that comment as missing the /sarc tag following line four.

TruthHunter's picture

A boycott of CNN really means a boycott of any
corporation foolish enough to advertise on them.

_ConanTheLibertarian_'s picture

"collective heads chopped right off (metaphorically speaking)"

Make it real.


Youre a fuckin weirdo man. The last three or four posts ive read by you, under a diff name, you responded to yourself with one of your othet sometimes i cant believe how crazy people are. Have fun talking to yourself. Lol lol lol  Is it because phili keeps calling you out so your trying to play it off like your not a troll. Lol

Idk man. Youre a freakin lunatic. Kinda scary actually. Stay away from us on zh. Loser.

moonshadow's picture

"Stay suspicious, my friends"

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SPAM ALERT: Serial spammer DO NOT click on his fake links which are completely unconnected to his comment.Current names: Yippee Kiyay, lonnng, letsit, Mano-A-Mano and techies-r-us.
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HedgeJunkie's picture

Keep up the fight.  Semper Fi.

Son of Loki's picture
Breaking: Assistant Attorney General Tipped Off Clinton Camp About DOJ Investigation

WikiLeaks Latest: Justice Department Official Gave Clinton Camp 'Heads Up' About Testimony


Doña K's picture

She will be indicted at a specific time window in the election process in which O'bummer will find some excuse to postpone elections and pull a Chavez on us. It's all orchestrated.

I do hope I am wrong! 

NoPension's picture

Please God, let it be Harry Reid.

Let him find out, and eat a S&W

francis_the_wonder_hamster's picture

If there's any justice in the world, Bawney Fwank will be named.

HedgeJunkie's picture

That greasy dicked butt fucker really is why our economy is in the shape it's in.

I hope that gay mother-fucker dies from a wad of forced cunt hairs down his throat.  It would be an allergic response.

(now that I think of it, I'd love to see a lot of our government desperately gasping for air.)

WillyGroper's picture

hope that senator is feinswine.

Vatican_cameo's picture


You know if they hook one Senator, he/she will flip on the rest.  There can't possibly be only ONE SENATOR involved.  If they run this to ground, there won't be anyone left in the swamp.  How great would that be?

WillyGroper's picture

check this out...i'd say it depends on just how fed up & how big that power struggle is.  oiw: custer's last stand as far as the country goes.


and yes, the entire 10sq mile area is guilty & if not by participation then by omission.  that & the structure of the laws they write.

booboo's picture

Ring fence D.C. and let nature take its course

PT's picture

If evidence is never seen in public or exposed in a court of law, is it still evidence?

TruthHunter's picture

Depends, is there a God?

He passed the word along that there is a judgment.

1777's picture

I AM is everywhere.....

azusgm's picture

I'm guessing Robert Menendez.