Democratic Senator Introduces Bill To Abolish The Electoral College

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Back when Donald Trump was lagging badly in the polls - as recently as just over a week ago - any time the republican candidate accused the electoral system of being rigged, Democrats would scream over each other to explain to him just how fair, balanced and sensible is the mandated framework of the US presidential election. Well, Trump won, and the roles are now flipped, with such pundits as Michael Moore, and even Paul Krugman earlier today, slamming the concept of the Electoral College, which Trump won decisively despite losing the popular vote.

In retrospect, Krugman may have been the rational one.

According to the LA Times reports, retiring California Democratic senator Barbara Boxer filed legislation Tuesday to abolish the Electoral College altogether in light of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote but still losing the election.

Boxer announced in a statement that the bill, which she introduced later on Tuesday afternoon, would determine the winner of presidential elections by the outcome of the popular vote. She cited President-elect Donald Trump's victory in the Electoral College despite Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's apparent popular vote advantage.

"In my lifetime, I have seen two elections where the winner of the general election did not win the popular vote," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

"In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted, 'The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy,' " Boxer added. "I couldn't agree more. One person, one vote!"

While such legislation makes a symbolic statement after an election that shocked Democrats, is unlikely to gain traction with Republicans holding control of both chambers of Congress in a lame duck session.

Her bill calls for an amendment to the Constitution that would end the Electoral College system. Should such a thing pass, the amendment would only take effect if ratified by three-fourths of the states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress.

Boxer was a vocal advocate for Clinton throughout the campaign and had said that electing the first female president was on her to-do list before leaving the Senate in January.

This is the fifth time in history that a nominee has won the popular vote but not the Electoral College. The same situation happened to Al Gore in 2000, when he lost to George W. Bush.

While one can debate the merits of changing the constitution just so one's preferred candidate can win, we'll pass and instead conclude with the following cartoon which explains everything.

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Boxer's full proposed legislation is below:

Boxer Introduces Bill To Abolish The Electoral College

 

Donald Trump to Become Fifth Person in U.S. History To Lose Popular Vote and Still Become President

 

Washington, D.C. - U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) will introduce legislation when the Senate comes into session later today that would eliminate the Electoral College and determine the winner of presidential elections by the outcome of the popular vote.

 

Hillary Clinton currently leads the popular vote by nearly a million votes (990,758). By the time all the ballots are counted, the New York Times estimates that Clinton may win the popular vote by more than two million votes and more than 1.5 percentage points. Donald Trump will become the fifth President in U.S. history to lose the popular vote and still win the election.

 

"In my lifetime, I have seen two elections where the winner of the general election did not win the popular vote," said Senator Boxer. "When all the ballots are counted, Hillary Clinton will have won the popular vote by a margin that could exceed two million votes, and she is on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama. This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency. The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

 

"In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted, 'The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy,' " Boxer added. "I couldn't agree more. One person, one vote!"

 

During his interview on "60 Minutes" on Sunday, Trump said his views on the Electoral College haven't changed. "You know, I'm not going to change my mind just because I won. But I would rather see it where you went with simple votes. You know, you get 100 million votes and somebody else gets 90 million votes and you win," he said. This morning, he tweeted that the Electoral College is "actually genius."

 

As of early Tuesday, Hillary Clinton had received 61,929,605 votes (47.8 percent) and Donald Trump had received 60,938,847 votes (47.0 percent), according to the Cook Political Report national popular vote tracker.

 

Senator Boxer's legislation would amend the Constitution of the United States and abolish the Electoral College. The amendment would take effect when ratified by three-fourths of the states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress.

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The Alarmist's picture

How about repealing the 17th amendment, while we are at it?

TeamDepends's picture

Let's just ban communism and be done with it.

NidStyles's picture

That's the funny thing, Communism is illegal. It falls under the unAmerican activities.

 

 

Let them push for pure democracy, within months we would be embroiled in a Civil War that none of the people that pushed for it would be left alive. It would literally be the central portion of the country slaughtering the coasts. I have no doubts about who would win such a conflict either. In fact the losers would get their asses handed to them so badly that they would have the blueberries come in to fight the winners.

pathosattrition's picture

How stupid is this lame-duck bitch? Doesn't she realize that a constitutional amendment would have to be passed by 3/4 of the states? You know, those same states that elected Trump?

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Boris is not Amerikansky, cannot vote, maybe is not so smart, but is not Electoral College establish by Constitution Article 1 §1, define in Amendment 12th? Senate bill is cannot quash COTUS…!?

But what is Boris know?!

Nekoti's picture

Let's abolish Barbara Boxer.

Manthong's picture

Be careful what you wish for Babs, this is how the country voted by county.

Once Trump cleans up the illegal and fraud votes, there will never be a Democrat in the Trump House again.

https://s21.postimg.org/xkhoedhvb/2016_by_county.jpg

 

Nekoti's picture

That map is the absolute best example of why the electoral college exists.

jcaz's picture

Gosh, with she and Pelosi in charge, I just can't understand how California managed to fuck itself up.........

WarPony's picture

Them 14th Amendment, small "c" citizens need to go too. Meanwhile, Madison rises from grave and assasinates the Boxer brief.

RAT005's picture

The presidential election is the only person elected across state lines.  That is why there is an electoral college. 

Save_America1st's picture

gee, just as predicted....I saw this bullshit coming from a mile away come 6am last Wednesday morning. 

Can't put it past these treasonous, Marxist, scumbags...they certainly are relentless.  Like fucking radiation...they never stop and are always coming at you from all angles.

But this was an easy one to see coming...they pretty much set the whole scenario up for themselves from the beginning by pushing Hitlery. 

That's the great thing about Trump winning...it proves that it's not just those or some of us on ZH or other good websites who are awake and who can also see this kinda shit coming from a mile away.

Millions more all over the world have finally woken the fuck up to all this sneaky fucking tyrannical globalist Marxist Fascist bullshit that these treasonous scumbags have been pulling on us for the last 100+ years.

More people are now awake to this shit than ever and right at the nick of time, ay?  Go figure...right when shit looked done with, America wakes up and rallies hard-core right at the perfect fucking time to throw a 50 year road block up against this evil fucking satanic cult who's been trying to kill us for centuries.

Pretty fuckin' cool.  ;-)

letsit's picture

And that satanic cult is unfortunately supporting Trump now.
https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/views-of-news/#trumpmeans

beauticelli's picture
beauticelli (not verified) letsit Nov 16, 2016 12:09 AM

Bye bye America.

beauticelli's picture
beauticelli (not verified) beauticelli Nov 16, 2016 12:10 AM

Moving to Germany because ZH said it's the best country in the world according to some survey.

Manthong's picture

If you assume (reasonably) that almost every blue county has at least 25% Republicans, no Democrat could ever make it to the White House with a popular vote, assuming there was a real difference in the choice.

The reason Trump drew them out of the woodwork is that for the first time since Reagan there was a difference and a real choice to make.

https://s21.postimg.org/xkhoedhvb/2016_by_county.jpg

TVP's picture

+1, agree with all that.

Thing is, they are already killing us in the slowest, most horrible way possible.

Harlequin001's picture

Yeah but what will happen to the Democratic majority in the popular vote if all the dead people can't vote Democrat multiple times?

FIAT CON's picture

What is the blue lakes? /s

Manthong's picture

The largest reservoir of fresh water on the planet that Nestle thinks it deserves to privatize.

Pinto Currency's picture

Back to your spirit cooking cook book Babs.
Save us from your corrupted wisdom.

Gold Eyed Cat's picture

Sure, ok.  I don't mind ditching the Electoral College.  HOWEVER, this legislation must also include the prerequisites that only taxpayers may vote, paper ballots must be used, and every election is audited.  And lastly, anyone found guilty of voter fraud gets to choose between a year in prison or 2 full months hard labor building, cleaning or maintaining the wall.

nekten's picture
I'm going to have to revise my plan for secession to be by county opt-out.
Lookit all the blue city-states we'd have.
From the right to the left: (I've kindly renamed the new divisions)
Red Freezeyerassoffinmaine
Blue Coastal Nawtheast
Blue Soweast Crescent
Blue Southbeach
Blue Disneylandia East
Blue Rio Mississippia
Blue Motacity
Blue Tchicaga
Blue Horn of Minnesota (depending on the level of immigration, maybe Boca Brava)
Blue Archipelago of the Rockies
Blue Coastal California
Blue Spots of OreWash
Blue Hawaii -- an Elvis thing!
Alaska
And the rest?
Red America -- Mmm that doesn't sound right
fleur de lis's picture

Let's abolish Barbara Boxer's husband's nice, big, fat government contract.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/17/sen-feinsteins-husban...

X_in_Sweden's picture
X_in_Sweden (not verified) Nekoti Nov 16, 2016 2:51 AM

((( Barbara Boxer )))

 

I strongly suggest you familiarize yourselves with "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" ;

It was published in 1903, 113 years ago.

Incredibly accurate of that what has happened since!!!

 

Here's an extract -

*WHO ARE THE ELDERS?*

"....This is a secret which has not been revealed. They are the Hidden Hand. They are not the "Board of Deputies" (the Jewish Parliament in England) or the "Universal Israelite Alliance" which sits in Paris. But the late Walter Rathenau of the Allgemeiner Electricitaets Gesellschaft has thrown a little light on the subject and doubtless he was in possession of their names, being, in all likelihood, one of the chief leaders himself. Writing in the WIENER FREIE PRESSE, December 24, 1912, he said:

"Three hundred men, each of whom knows all the others, govern the fate of the European continent, and they elect their successors from their entourage."

In the year 1844, on the eve of the Jewish Revolution of 1848, Benjamin Disraeli, whose real name was Israel, and who was a "damped," or baptized Jew, published his novel, CONINGSBY, in which occurs this ominous passage:

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

And he went on to show that these personages were all Jews.

Now that Providence has brought to the light of day these secret Protocols all men may clearly see the hidden personages specified by Disraeli at work "behind the scenes" of all the Governments. This revelation entails on all peoples the grave responsibility of examining and revising AU FOND their attitude towards the Race and Nation which boasts of its survival over all Empires...."

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#WHO

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=protocols+of+the+learned+elders+of+zion&t=ffab...

cheka's picture

the ec makes rigging elections MUCH harder.  so what if you have a million mexicans vote twice in los angeles....your ec votes are fixed.  rig all you want

44_shooter's picture

Boris you're a smart guy - you remind me of my friend George.  George is Russian.  Goerge says "Amerkansky is Lolly".  I have no idea what the hell that means, but it sounds right. Lolly.

George also said he put a stone in his ass while in a Russian prison to prevent other prisoners from screwing George in the ass.  

 

Overfed's picture

Lolly gets her adverbs here.

bh2's picture

"...the amendment would only take effect if ratified by three-fourths of the states within seven years after its passage in the U.S. Congress."

Boris is precisely right. And the likelihood that 3/4 of the states will pass such an amendment to reduce their own soverienty is precisely zero. Boxer is show-boating for votes from the clueless Millenials.

Tall Tom's picture

 

 

 

What does Boris know? More than the average American citizen about the supreme law of their Nation..

 

More than a dipshit Lame Duck Senator who obviously has been afflicted with senility as she cannot understand that the United States was never set up as a Democracy but was set up as a REPRESENTATIVE Republic.

 

Boris knows one hell of a lot.

neutrino3's picture

They are only worming up for Trump's presidency. Expect ammonia-based-life's attacks. His every word, gesture, blink will be constantly covered with great pile of shit. To distance him from his voters/supporters, who are actually his real power. One will need telescope to "see" his original thoughts/intentions.

Congrats for Grand-Battle-Won. You ALL did it. Not Trump. You built him from scratch. Keep him alerted and focused.

Jack's Raging Bile Duct's picture

Don't be cross, Boris. Lack of legal eligibility never stopped anyone from voting in US elections. The Constitution doesn't really stop anyone from doing anything else, either. It's just a fucking piece of paper, after all. So...have at it!

SoDamnMad's picture

Boris  Can you cousin in Moskva score me a couple of them Armata tanks and some Sukhoi or Mikoyan so I can blow some of these crazies up?

We formed a government  a Yuuge while ago with 3 sections of government to watch over each other and protect the people. Someone snuffs a justice of the court and in a micro second they are flushing his bodily fluids down the drain before a thorough investigation into the cause of death can be done.  So much for the Court being important.  The Executive branch writes rules and sends the country off to war despite it being the Congresses right to authorize such.  Our Congress was formed in such a manner to have 2 sections; one with each state having equal respresentation of 2 sentors each while the other section having representation based upon population.  Now suddenly the whole form of US government is in the shitter from what the founding fathers envisioned and wrote down.  Time for some major ass kicking OR those that don't like what was written in 1776, get the hell out. 

 

Hal n back's picture

she is an arrogant stupid dumb assed bitch.

Several years ago  she was in a hearing where a 4 star general was being questioned by her. He replied to her as ma'me, which in the military is reserved for someone of higher rank and a reflection of respect. I am not sure a Senator is higher rank than a 4 star, which is not a lot of people.

 

However, Boxer took time to chew him out publicly, saying she worked hard to become senator and she should be called senator. Thats was ass backwards wrong on several accounts including the concept that it is an accompishment to be elected senator. Its an honor to serve this country in any manner, but what has this low class broad done to get respect? Be a liberal in CA and get elected? BFD.

If anything she should have spoke with him afterwards asking for the prefernce to be called senator. Noo-her ego was too big to do it the adult way.

She is one of 537 reasons of elected officials why the US is eyeball deep in debt, and now she is going to waste money on this proposed amendment becasue her friend Hillary screwed up over and over again . The two of them should--well, never mind.

 

SquirrelCutter's picture

Dumber than a box of rat turds. Sir.

Urban Redneck's picture

The question is how do you teach an old bitch new tricks?

If the cunt is really upset about the compromise that is the electoral college, why not remind her what the other side's original position was?

ONE STATE ONE VOTE.

One of her fellow congress critters could introduce that one today... and it could be ratified by 3/4 of the states.

nmewn's picture

This is how stupid she is...

"Her bill calls for an amendment to the Constitution that would end the Electoral College system. Should such a thing pass, the amendment would only take effect >>>if<<< ratified by >>>three-fourths of the states<<< >>>within seven years after<<< >>>its passage in the U.S. Congress."<<<

...meaning.

No fucking way, ain't gonna happen.

lincolnsteffens's picture

She's just blathering to her own crowd. It is not going to happen except by executive ( illegal ) order. 

The Constitution of the Republic is barely being used anyhow. They will probably pass a statute making the election for the Federal Corporation eliminate the electoral college. My momma always used to say, "T'was ever thus.".

The Wizard's picture

Exactly, she is from California, her rants about popular vote are to be expected.

The number of  anti Hitlary votes were far more than what the results are showing. Trump received many more votes than the machines produced. The machines couldn't rig those big numbers. If Hitlary was that close in the popular vote then there is no doubt someone was countering the rigging with a manipulation in the electoral college for The Don. Get rid of all electronic machines and their software. Developed, and even banana republic countries laugh at our use of electronic machines for vote tallying.

Great comment on the 17th amendment. The Senate is a parlell to the House of Lords. The president has turned into a kingship like Jefferson thought it would. Executive orders, administrative law, whoever heard of such a thing.

WillyGroper's picture

but wait, didn't the supremes legislate a tax?

ur talking legal/lawful & logical...we're not in kansas anymore.

OT:  this just in & it ain't just demoncrats.

if NYPD is ramroding this, it will drain the swamp w/o new fearless leader, but i don't expect lame stream to pick it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isa_ff-diPU

nmewn's picture

According John Roberts (and every other socialist on the court) yes, he/they called it a tax...but of course it can't be a tax because you can't tax non-proportionately (by central governments own "law") so it must be a fine/penalty...which is a completely different thing and Nana knew it the moment she sad it.

The national-socialists offered up (rather, chose to say) non-compliance is a "tax".

That is THE Pandoras Box and I can make it spring to life & bite them in the ass in a million different ways ;-)

NidStyles's picture

Leave it to the leftist to label anyone on their side they don't agree with national-socialists..

 

Fuck off commie.

nmewn's picture

"Fuck off commie."

You talkin to me?

//////

Come on bitch, you've been wanting it...lets do it.

GoinFawr's picture

Yeah. I mean, IMO you're a lot of things nmewn, and not all of them nice either, but I'd never mistake your idiom for one of 'theirs'

:)

nmewn's picture

As you know people are very complicated things. IMO anyone worth listening to is a combination of intellect governed by their ability to compassionately reason, even as reason does not mean compromise. I've never claimed to be "nice" GoinFawr, on the contrary I can be one of the cruelest, uncompromising SOB's on the planet with anyone who thinks my form of compassion is an unreasonable thing.

Attribute it to Celtic DNA or whatever, it just is what it is ;-)

RAT005's picture

She gave a little introduction to the uselessness of this on some white Oprah show.  She knows it's useless,  she's just posturing. 

Crisismode's picture

 

We CANNOT ALLOW the president to be elected by Popular Vote!!

 

Can you imagine what would have happened to this country if Gore had been elected by popular vote?!?!?!

 

INSANITY!

 

The STUPID AMERICAN ELECTORATE can't be allowed to elect a president by popular vote!!!!!

The Founding Fathers Had It Right:

 

NO VOTE unless you are a

White, Landowning, Male.

Period.

End of Report.

 

If you think I am kidding.

Think again.

No sarcasm at all.