Fear And Loathing Inside The Deep State

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Submitted by Larchmonter445 via The Saker,

Everyone in the Deep State is threatened by the Trump Presidency. The Deep State understands that power, funding, ideological stratagems and domination of government, media, academia, think tanks and NGOs are in the ‘field of fight’, to use the book title by a prime target the Deep State intends to destroy in order to save itself from Trump.

Lt. General (ret.) Michael T. Flynn

Lt. General (ret.) Michael T. Flynn, three-star expert in Military Intelligence, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), counselor to Trump for the last fifteen months, is a vital Trump ally the Deep State is attempting to discredit.

We have seen the one-week ferocious political and media attack on Stephen Bannon, begun the instant that Bannon was named Trump’s number one strategist-advisor. Bannon is the theologian of Drain the Swamp, the Trump policy to rid the system of corruption and catastrophically disastrous policies and bureaucrat enablers.

To understand Steve Bannon, take the time to read this transcription or listen to the audio Q&A from a 2014 event in the Vatican. He lays out his philosophical agenda, and used the 2016 campaign to advance his war on the Elites.

Drain the Swamp pertains to more than getting the corruption out of the system.

Steve Bannon

Bannon now has Trump’s full backing to destroy the UniParty, defeat the Globalists, banish the warmongers of the MIC and help the legal prosecution of the corrupt. This is the Revolution to end the domestic Tyranny and the global Hegemon.

The usual weapons of personal destruction have been launched at Bannon to destroy him and to deprive Trump of his most effective counselor and field marshall. Bannon has been branded a racist, an anti-semite, a white supremacist, an Islamophobe and a misogynist. In every forum and media outlet, the meme of Bannon being the worst human on the planet played as intensively as how the Dems attacked Trump during the campaign.

Relentless lies, chorused by every host, talking head, and hater of every value Trump and Bannon had campaigned for were spewed on Bannon’s name. All fabricated, most based on a few headlines written by Milo Yiannopoulos in Breitbart.com, alt right agitprop pieces constructed to collect reader clicks, revenues for Breitbart and fame for Milo. Bannon as chief of Breitbart was then scourged for those headlines. Mockery by Milo used against Steve Bannon.

It was all the Media needed. But the Deep State directed it for good reason. Bannon is the Pale Rider coming to destroy them.

Steve Bannon is dedicated to cleansing government and the financial system controlled by all those who have reigned over the foreign regime changes, the transfer of middle class wealth and income to Wall Street, paper wealth from derivatives to hedge fund and corporate global leaders, trillions to the 0.01% elites, all of whom populate the Ultra Wealthy Class, a new feudalism of billionaires and millionaires.

Bannon’s life long credentials and work with Jews, Blacks, females and Muslims eventually helped stifle the Media excesses. But the vicious branding may stick long after the inauguration.

The fear and loathing of the Deep State is focused on another nemesis and threat in the person of General Flynn. Flynn challenges the Deep State’s incompetence, particularly its lack of results in the fight against terrorism. Flynn dealt with this in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He wrote a white paper on the state of US military Intelligence and the need to fix it.

Flynn also is sickened with the 2012 Benghazi event and coverup, the lies of Clinton and the abandonment by the command structure of CIA, Pentagon, State and NSC. The Syrian war, the attempted coup of Erdogan, and the carnage wrought by bad policies, sheepish leadership and less-than-best methods of Intelligence gathering and usage motivated the General to join Trump.

Flynn is now Trump’s guide into the Presidential raw data Intel reports and briefings. General Flynn is Trump’s personal analyst for interpretation of the data. Flynn has attended every briefing Trump has received. He is in place and the Deep State is out. So, they have mounted their counter-attack as soon as it was clear he would head the reform of the Intelligence community, and serve the newly elected President.

Flynn has recruited over two hundred generals and admirals and twenty-two Medal of Honor recipients to the successful Trump campaign. Now some of the generals are possible cabinet or undersecretary department nominees or agency appointees.

The Deep State is in deep trouble. General Flynn will probably be NSC head and I think he will have real power over fifteen other Intelligence agencies. Flynn may have great power over huge swaths of the MIC. He certainly will assist in the cleaning out of neocons and feckless employees, managers, supervisors and directors.

Against Flynn, the Deep State is using a more traditional model of career attack and personal destruction than it did with Bannon. Multiple articles written to show that Flynn and Putin, Flynn and Russia, Flynn and RT media are part of the Trump gang of pro-Russian contacts connected to the Kremlin.

Below is General Flynn at dinner with President Putin in Moscow. He explains in an interview.

Other Trump-Putin supposed contacts are Carter Page and Paul Manafort, both of whom were attacked by the Media for the Deep State months ago. They resigned under political pressure applied through the media.

In a payback, the Deep State lost some of their own sent to the Trump campaign who were unable to survive first inspection. They were dropped from the Trump campaign transition team.

But, once Trump is sworn in, Carter Page will be back, most likely. He has connections to Gazprom, is well-liked in Moscow, and will be a link for American energy companies and perhaps some joint ventures in the gas field development and pipeline industry. Several friends of Trump are from the gas and oil industry, and the world is a small world when energy is the issue. The Arctic, the eastern Mediterranean, the South China Sea and other large development zones have enormous new fields to be tapped and exploited. Even the Black Sea zone around Crimea has yet-to-be-tapped energy stores.

The primary interest of the Trump foreign policy will be to make America wealthy again. The Eurasian development has already attracted Trump to the OBOR of China and the AIIB infrastructure bank. Probably the entire New Silk Road of China and EAEU of Russia is not going to be without major US participation. The difference now is facilitation, participation, investment and benefits instead of obstruction, destabilization and terrorism used to thwart it all.

To destroy Flynn and weaken Trump with the Intelligence and Military communities, the classic Washington technique of long articles with many negative anonymous sourced comments was used, carefully crafted headlines and paragraph headers, all designed for very negative Google Search feeds.

The latest is about Flynn and Turkish “operatives”. Sounds like they met in dark alleys or underground passageways. Maybe in some Ankara safehouse, eh?

It turns out quite differently.

Hilal Mutlu (left) and Ibrahim Kurtulus (center) with Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn at Oct. 10, 2016 event. (Youtube screen grab)

But Flynn is obviously being watched closely by CIA/State Dept. They know he is doing the bidding of Trump. And for good reason, Trump needs to know which way Turkey is leaning post-coup? And how sensitive is the Kurd issue in Syria? What are the ramifications of the US and Russia working in tandem against ISIS in Syria? Will Turkey help with safe zones for refugees? Will Turkey leave Syria after the war or does it plan to resist Russia and Assad? What about NATO? What about the Uyghurs Turkey protects, and is China being forced to come with military to put down the Uyghurs inside ISIS? Will the issue of demanding Fethullah Gulen’s extradition continue? Will there be mass death penalties for the imprisoned coup participants and Gulen’s followers?

Flynn had a panoply of possible questions to be answered by the operatives from Erdogan. And the Turks would have questions they wanted answered with some hint of Trump’s positions.

The Deep State are tracking Flynn and the Turks and are now exposing his links as a professional consultant. Nothing illegal. Nothing suspicious. Nothing out of the ordinary. But it was General Flynn, Trump’s guy. Smear him.

How else would this information surface in the Washington Post except from the Deep State? And if you know the history of the Deep State, the WaPo is their first choice for all leaks, briefings in depth, exposes used to undermine officials who cross them or who point to the Deep States’ misdeeds or failures. You won’t find Sy Hersh’s articles in WaPo.

The point of the articles about General Flynn was to shame him, to put down his personality, his lack of obedience to the Obama regime. He was investigated for giving Intel to foreign nations, we are told. He shared Intelligence with the Pakistanis, we are told. Read how his fellow generals talk about him.

Imagine if the Deep State decided that Intelligence should never be shared. Well, the U.S. would have no allies. No nation joins a war effort without Intelligence for their military. Flynn, whose entire thirty-plus year career has been in Intelligence understands that. And he did it. Proudly, he related to the investigators, and it all was dropped except the record and the reporting of it now.

The investigation was actually to cast a black mark on Flynn to be found later, by the uninformed, at the most sensitive of times. In this case, it is to weaken Flynn, to weaken Trump.

“Mike Flynn shares Intel. Mike Flynn acts without checking with what the Deep State wants.” It turns out that Flynn did get approval for all he did. But he simply did the professional thing. He acted in behalf of his specialty, his profession, his oath of duty and the American people who paid him to protect America.

There is something to be gained by studying this meeting with Turkey’s operatives. Flynn’s meeting signals that Trump will not likely arm the Kurds with heavy weapons. That would drive Turkey into the Russian-Iranian embrace fully. A practical solution to defeating ISIS and AQ and ending the Syrian war has to avoid losing Turkey. Trump is not going to be trying to coup anyone. His policy is no regime changes. He also does not like these secret wars of the CIA. If there is to be war, he wants it fought by the military, with a plan for victory. Principally, Trump’s wars will be like President Eisenhower’s. There were none for eight years.

The warmongers and neocons of the Deep State and surface government will try to work over all the Trump nominees in the security and policy arena. Trump has refused to listen to any of them, though a few have been invited in to the goings on. However, we don’t know who is talking to Trump and who is talking to the various panels of experts that will advise who they think he should select. So a few neocons and warmongers like John Bolton and General Keane have made it into Trump Tower. But he eschewed them all these years and throughout the campaign. I doubt they will have any role in policy. He considers them failures.

Expect very deep shakeouts at CIA and State. I think Flynn will use fellow military he knows and trusts as deputies and undersecretaries. General Keith Kellogg and General Ronald Burgess are likely for important positions.

There has to be this cleaning out of the subterranean world of the Deep State.  If President Carter got rid of 800 officers when Stansfield Turner tried cleaning out the CIA, I’m betting there are 1500 officers in the CIA who need retirement now.

As for the State Department and the Clinton corruption of pay for play, that is only half the problem. The eighty years of Khazarian dominance of the State Department has created the need that whole thing ought to be shut down except for visas at embassies and consulates. (I’d use the Commerce Department in the interim. Send everyone else from State home. Board up Foggy Bottom for ten years.)

Addendum: General Flynn early in the primary campaign consulted as advisor to five candidates. Carly Fiorina, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump. He chose Trump as the one who wanted to be President in order to fix the country and make America great again. Now, Trump, Bannon and Flynn are going to drain the swamp, if they can survive.

(Flynn has been named NSC Advisor and will command a staff of 400 from all the other Intel agencies, it has been reported by Fox and AP.)

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Mass_hysteria's picture
Mass_hysteria (not verified) Nov 19, 2016 9:48 PM

Newsflash: The jews already have their tentacles around Trump.


Cut the deep state bs. The president has no power to stop it. America is overthrown while they drink coca cola and fluoride and watch 2/1 men on jewish owned channels.

jeff montanye's picture

9-11 remains the litmus test.

TeamDepends's picture

We are simply happy that the reign of the Fruitcake is over. No more freaks entering the ladies room because they feel "female" today. No more calling someone a pronoun they just made up: "Oh, you want to be called xzeshe today? No, fuck you". "Words" such as "cisgender" GONE, down the memory hole. Oh and still masturbating to videos of precious snowflakes losing their shit because PRESIDENT TRUMP. Please send help!

PrayingMantis's picture


... like what the new POTUS says ... MAGA ...


Muh Raf's picture

Can anyone give a single example of genuine terrorism since 9-11 and not this deep state $500m+ fakery ? http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pentagon-fake-terrorist-videos/

jeff montanye's picture

"since 9-11"?  

what exactly do you mean here?

i'm not sure the blind imam's first attack on the wtc was real.  ditto the u.s.s. cole.  

and i'm not sure that any of the attacks since 9-11 were real either.

but i'm surest that 9-11 was done by the likud/mossad, various sayan, and elements of the u.s. national security state at the highest levels.  there the research and documentation is extensive and convincing beyond a reasonable doubt (standard of guilt for criminal conviction), imo.  how half-assed the government investigations were is also proof enough for any reasonably open mind.

the only thing the perps have going for them is the scale of their atrocity.


letsit's picture

Will Trump get rid of the biggest swam p of all, the Federal Reserve? Nope.

techies-r-us's picture
techies-r-us (not verified) letsit Nov 19, 2016 11:20 PM

Of course he won't.

techies-r-us's picture
techies-r-us (not verified) techies-r-us Nov 19, 2016 11:21 PM

It's the elite's, Trump included, bread & butter.

Majestic12's picture

"Everyone in the Deep State is threatened by the Trump Presidency"

"fire Yellen"...

"repeal Obamacare"...

"get rid of Dodd-Frank"...

"Assures NATO" of status quo...

"Monsanto" Mike Pompeo as CIA Director...

"DEA" Sessions as Attorney General...

"Tremendous Respect" for Henry Kissinger...

Jew-boy Kushner son-in-law present in meeting with Japan's Abe

Yeah, the "Deep State" is on the run...all the way to the bank.

philipat's picture

Letsit, Lonnng, Yippee Kiyay, techies-r-us, stizazz, Mano-A-Mano et al, sorry to make you “Talk to yourself” more to avoid having my “outing” post immediately below your spam. It now takes you 4-5 minutes to post because you have to login as different users to talk to yourself and separate your spam post from my spam alert so taking advantage of Zhers who don’t know your game. Still, without a life I suppose you must have plenty of time on your hands. I have a life so am not always focused on hitting the key on my machine which automatically responds to your spam. Another poster, erkme73, was able to hack into your parents security system and get a shot of you in the basement where you live. Not a pretty site:


Draybin Deffercon III's picture
Draybin Deffercon III (not verified) philipat Nov 20, 2016 3:26 AM

Libertarians, cuckservatives alike.. we all must face judgment on teh day of teh lord.



kellys_eye's picture


Keep up the good work Phil

Majestic12's picture


It is "one" person, DNS server, multiple live profiles, multiple IPs and ZH allows shell access to "cut in front" of every article with a "cascade" of generic comments to bump down any "real" profile.

You and I have been here long enough to see that ZH is here to distract...

It doesn't matter which direction - left/right, up/down, pro/against, red/blue, or jew/human...

ZH is changed hands many time and serves as the NWO's "alt right", "outsider" champion...to distract all away from the core truth.

Whether is was the fucking Communists or Assholenists, the truth is the only war is the one of the elite over the masses.

The reality is that they need our "permission"...but we keep giving it to them.

The cure is to "just say no"...all of us.

juangrande's picture

When the deep state is truly threatened, they will crash the markets and economy. The Fed could do it in a few weeks if it wanted to.

philipat's picture

SPAM ALERT: Do not open the fake links. Letsit has now taken over as Spammer-in- Chief after Yippee Kiyay and now lonng were banned. This serial spammer previously known as: mofio, santafe, Aristotle of Greece, Gargoyle, bleu, oops, lance-a-lot, Loftie, toro, Yippee Kiyay, lonnng, letsit, Mano-A-Mano, techies-r-us, beauticelli, stizazz, Nekoti, SumTing Wong, King Tut, Adullam, jcaz, espirit, rp2016, Holy hand grenade of Antioch (some still active for the purposes of talking to and congratulating himself) and others. He seems to have more accounts than all other ZH members combined. Beats me why The Tylers can’t just block his IP?

Adullam's picture

Philipat, how did you possibly get me mixed up with that guy? I've been trying to expose him myself and encouraged you in your efforts.

Check out some of my posts.

CNONC's picture

This is an example of how purges always go.  First, the malefactors are identified, then their associates, then everybody who ever talked to them, then everybody who ever talked about them, then people the purgers just don't like. 

We all want the deep state purged.  But be careful.  The purgers will come for you. 

Draybin Deffercon III's picture
Draybin Deffercon III (not verified) philipat Nov 20, 2016 3:29 AM

It is very difficult to block based upon ip addresses. Better to use HTML5 tags to identify repeat offenders.



Muh Raf's picture

"since 9-11" because 9-11 is so obviously an attack by the Zoharites it goes without saying. Only a shill defends the official narrative today. Period. It's not up for debate. The evidence is clear, abundant and overwhelming. Anyone who denies Mossad and Israeli control, not involvement, in 9-11 needs to be ignored, their opinions on anything else are worthless since they obviously work for the bad guys. My point is since 9-11, when the Muslim world is supposed to have 'risen up', viz Boston Bombings, Shoe Bomber, Y-front Bomber, Jihadi John, Jihadi Jane, IS/ISIL/ISIS, Adam Gadarn, the Iraq Khalif, the Eagles of Death Metal etc etc ad nauseum. They are all 100% fake. There has not been a single genuine act of 'Islaamic terrorism' since 9-11. Not one. Hence Trump's narrative on "we need to vet these people coming in" is complete nonsense and misdirection. His own family are arch Zionists and therefore Zoharite puppets. Anything that the Don fixes will be just window dressing for nationalists, which only delays the deep state agenda and in many respects play to what Kissinger has been calling for recently, viz Russia detente etc.

sun tzu's picture

Muslims terrorists committed those attacks with the knowledge, assistance, and approval from the Deep State. It's the whole Al Qaeda and ISIS deal. The US State Dept is the root of all international terrorism. 

Muh Raf's picture

Have you seen the passenger manifests for the 4 flights of 9-11? Only a couple of Arab looking names between all 4 and NOT ONE of the alleged hijackers were officially passenegers on any of the 4 flights. If that's not overwhelming enough for you, you dumber than dirt spanner, 7 of the supposed 19 hijackers were interviewed less than 2 weeks after the attack by journalists fom the UK broadsheet, the Sunday Telegraph. In the same article they published details of a conversation between Muhammad Atta's father and one of their journalists and Atta's father said that his son was still alive the day after the attack and that he spoke with him on the 12th September recounting that his son was terrified for his life and was going into hiding. Those Saudis and Yemenis were not on those planes, so the whole hijack story is total b*llsh*t. So stop trying to pull that flagrant cr*p that Arabs did the attack with Israeli/CIA backing, trying to deflect the blame from the Neocon/Zionist cabal you lying piece of sh*t. Muslims had nothing to do with that attack AT ALL so FOAD.

bladrnr_2019's picture

Why would national security shoot up 51 people in a gay nightclub? And then blame it on ISIS or a Muslim terrorist? That makes no sense when we have Obama trying to get as many Muslim refugees as he can into the country? That defeats the whole point by making these Muslims out to be the terrorists yet trying to get more Mulims over here.

toady's picture

Sure, gulf war two, the current wars in Libya, Yemen, and Syria, the Nazis that overthrew the legitimate Ukrainian president, and those are just, the obvious ones...

fukidontknow's picture

Ron Paul's list of fake media being mocked over on the Accredited Times


Someone stop them

nmewn's picture

Yeah, I called my doctor like the viagra ad said to do because my schadenboner has lasted more than 4 hours (its lasted over a week now!) but they said I'd have to go through a procedure called chopadickoffame like that performed on Caitlyn, so I just decided to keep the schadenboner.

Hey! It makes a handy wet towel rack! ;-)

TeamDepends's picture

"The AMA has come out with a (very) recent study which shows that Republican wives report all-time highs on the Sexual Gratification Scale, despite equally high readings on the Loinal Soreness Scale. Democrat females, on the other hand, report no interest in sexual activity whatsoever and are "bitchy, moany, and difficult to be around".

CNONC's picture

My wife is a Democrat?  That explains alot.

FluffyDog6's picture

For an erection lasting over four hours, seek immediate help at your nearest women's prison.

Twee Surgeon's picture

For the author of the article and the snowflakes.


Perry Como certainly looks a lot like George Bush Jnr, check it.

Paul Kersey's picture

Trump has reached out to Mnuchin (Goldman Sachs), Eisenberg (Goldman Sachs), has already hired Bannon (Goldman Sachs), is shadowed by his son-in-law Kushner (Goldman Sachs), has reached out to Romeny (Bain Capital hedge fund) and Jamie Dimon (JP Morgan CEO and master bankster). It appears that Deep State can sleep well for at least the next four years.

However, if Trump reinstates Glass-Steagall, withdraws from elective false-flag wars, breaks up the TBTF banks, prosecutes the Clintons, doesn't use his new job to further enrich himself, does away with a few thousand of Obama's regulations, does away with Obamacare, does away with the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), and reigns in the survaillance state, then I'll believe Deep State is in deep shit.  

sun tzu's picture

Lots of misinformation and disinformation being pushed out by the presstitutes. Judge Trump by his actions, not the words of the presstitutes. Getting rid of that fat bastard Christie was a step in the right direction. Jeff Sessions as AG is another step in the right direction. 

Mr. Pain's picture

Don't forget the dept. of education which is designed to dumb down the kids and the epa which is a fucking oppresive joke on the Amerikan people. But hats off to VW which  cheated the emissions test for at least 8 years using software! Fuck the epa.

Mareka's picture

In some ways I hope that segments of mainstream media keep hammering the batshit crazy liberal agenda.

In the weeks leading up to the election it was a constant reminder that there is group of people are working to control the planet.

WernerHeisenberg's picture

9-11 is a litmus test.  Of note, the original Tylers were banning posters who identified the guilty parties too explicitly. Only after fight club was sold to corporate ownership did that stop.  Hardly anyone cares about 9-11 anymore.  Most of the Trumpkins would have been happy to see NY "hero" Giuliani get a top job, despite his key role in the 9-11 coverup.

The new and bigger litmus test is #pizzagate  This is about a worldwide network spanning generations.  Dutroux, Franklin, Saville, the Podesta brothers, the Clinton Foundation.  The evidence is overwhelming.  Kidnapping, trafficking, mutilation, rape, murder, and satanic ritual sacrifice of CHILDREN.  By and for Presidents, Prime Ministers, diplomats, spies, lawmakers, law enforcement agencies ...

Why is this not the top story on ZeroHedge every day since it broke?

nailgunner44's picture

What corporate ownership are you talking about, surely you know ABC Media, Ltd. is a Bulgarian shell corporation and not the American Broadcasting Corporation? Nothing has changed on ZH, except they seem to now be deleting all comments on articles older than 5 days. Not sure what the rationale is behind that. I would also like to see them cover pizzagate but perhaps they are worried about DDOS attacks, censorship and attracting the attention of the alphabet agencies. Why not submit your own article about pizzagate to ZH?

New World Chaos's picture

Thanks for keeping Pizzagate in peoples' minds. 

I came here to drop this payload:

Why such desperation from the puppetmasters?  Well... the disease is much worse than a bad case of crony socialism.  We are ruled by a satanic cult.  It is now bubbling up to the surface thanks to Wikileaks. http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/pizzagate-4chan-uncovered-sick-world-washingtons-occult-elite/ Check out the disgusting rituals Hillary Clinton's campaign manager is involved in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfL5KwUuvMc

Check out this leaked email:


I think it's clear that Obama spent $65k of taxpayers' money on an orgy.  These people are speaking in code.  Hot dogs = underage boys, pizza = underage girls.  The exact translation isn't obvious from one email, but there are a lot of other suspicious emails about pizza, hot dogs and other junk food.  i.e.  "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"


There is no way the elite would be so into junk food, no way they would pay so much for it (even with taxpayers' money), no way they would have it shipped from Chicago.   If they were paying that much taxpayer money to ship in the freshest Beluga caviar this would be plausible on the face of it.  Still outrageous, but plausible.  Pizza is pleb food.  It is made everywhere.  Even Chicago pizza can surely be found in DC.  Locally made pizza would be much better than pizza that spent hours on a plane.  There is no way they will order thousands of boxes of actual pizza.  They wouldn't say "assume we are using the same channels".  They wouldn't care about being served by the same "waitresses", in quotes.  Obvious code.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.  I am hearing rumors about a worldwide network of 70,000 pedophiles running things.  They rule through human compromise and traumatic ritual abuse.  Real-life Manchurian Candidate stuff.  Here's how it works:  http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm


Fukushima Sam's picture

Bullshit. I guarantee a pedo party for Obama would cost a hell of a lot more than $65K. They would have to pay millions just to keep eneryone quiet.

A very large order of made-for-the-president frozen Chicago deep-dish pizzas however sounds about right.

New World Chaos's picture

The payoff is they all get to ensure each others' cooperation in fucking over the little people.

Nobody rises to the highest levels of power without being vetted by the Shadow Government.  To gain their trust, aspirants must prove their sociopathy.  Can't have someone growing a conscience and airing all the evil plans.  Pedophilia is one way to ensure this.  But sociopaths are also notoriously disloyal, so they all need to have serious dirt on each other in order to ensure cooperation.  Pedophilia solves this issue too.

I think Epstein tried to tempt Trump with some jailbait but he didn't bite.  That's one reason why everyone is so freaked out about him.

Ms No's picture

I disagree that pizza gate is a litmus test.  90% of that is speculation based on speculation added with never ending circumstantial evidence.  That's why nobody is running with it.  The spaghetti and pizza talk is no smoking gun.  I followed many of those links and the FBI (who are probably pedophiles themselves) did not actually say that pizza, spaghetti and whatever had all those perverted meanings.  Somebody on the internet said that the FBI substantiated that with no links.  The FBI posted 4 signs, one of which is a triangle within a triangle (which was on the establishments sign, still not proof though) that pedophiles use on the dark net etc.  They did not include pizza and all of that.

If pizza and spaghetti are code words for this specific group your not going to be able to prove it simply by showing a few conversations referring to that.  In not one of those conversations did somebody say "I am going to fuck some pizza later."  It was all very cryptic.  You would need to have an email with them defining the terms as proof of their meaning.  To my knowledge nothing like this has been supported by the FBI or the emails.  So even if it is true it hasn't been substantiated enough.  Yes the owner is a freak, crimes may have taken place there.  Prove that crimes have taken place there, you can't.

Secondly, the spirit cooking party was not proof of Satanism.  The weird bitch is hiding very disturbing, however completely legal, actions behind the guise of artwork.  There is no smoking gun there either.  We know these people are freaks because of a huge history of circumstantial evidence but this situation does not provide enough substantiation.  We had FBI flight logs on Clinton, so people covered that.  If you character assassinate people just based on legal but super weird parties you can lose credibility and get yourself into trouble.  Cops can't operate on circumstantial evidence alone either.

We know these people are up to sick shit but it hasn't been proven and people are putting too much emphasis on the slightest implications.  He said spaghetti!  We have building circumstantial evidence and then isn't enough for people to run with.  Sott had the best article I have seen on it and they showed how the lobbyist Podesta admittedly has a sculpture of decapitated Dahmer murder victim.  Once again, we know they are freaks but that isn't a crime and there is no satanic ritual and child murder evident.  I'm sure they're doing it but there isn't proof.

So, that might be why people don't want to write articles screaming that they are all pedophiles, rapists and Satan worshippers.  They are, but where is the actual proof?



Paul Kersey's picture

"9-11 remains the litmus test."

Potential Director of Central Intelligence Mike Pompeo has stated in the past that Edward Snowden deserves the death penalty. That, unfortunately, is kind of a litmus test, too.

Usura's picture

If Snowden deserves the death penalty, then so does Hillary.

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Mass_hysteria Nov 19, 2016 9:55 PM

So, who are these Deep State people?  Name one.  I've never seen ANYONE named as part of the Deep State.  Go ahead.  Name a few if you can.


Mass_hysteria's picture
Mass_hysteria (not verified) The Saint Nov 19, 2016 9:57 PM

George soros -Jew

Rothchilds -jews

Rockerfellers -jews

Goldman sachs -jews

Citi -jews

The federal reserve -JEWS


Do you see the pattern dumb american? Do you realize your country is under jewsih control yet?