Scientists Find "Persuasive Evidence" Of Vote Hacking, Demand Clinton Recount In 3 States

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Between the so-called 'Hursti Hack', questions over Soros-linked voting machines, some peculiarities in Texas, and the media furore over Trump's democracy-threatening questioning of the election outcome; it is perhaps ironic that, after being soundly beaten across the vast majority of counties in America, NY Mag reports, a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers are urging the Clinton campaign to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump after allegedly finding "persuasive evidence" of vote hacking.

The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked.

New York Magazine reports that sources confirmed that the activists held a conference call last Thursday with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case...

The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.


Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000.

Notably, however, it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review - especially, as New York Magazine so gleefully points out, in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.

As a reminder, via, Geographically speaking, Trump won at least 80% of the Nation.

The only states Hillary carried are Vermont, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.





Trump won every county in Oklahoma and West Virginia. Trump won all but one county in Wyoming, and Kansas. Trump won all but two counties in North Dakota, Kentucky, Tennessee, Utah, and Nebraska.


Nearly the entire state of Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Oregon, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Michigan, etc., went for Trump. 


Geographically speaking, except for big cities and a few isolated areas, the country cannot stand Hillary.

So the big question is - could she win? Well the answer is complicated...

According to current tallies, Trump has won 290 Electoral College votes to Clinton’s 232, with Michigan’s 16 votes not apportioned because the race there is still too close to call.


It would take overturning the results in both Wisconsin (10 Electoral College votes) and Pennsylvania (20 votes), in addition to winning Michigan’s 16, for Clinton to win the Electoral College.


There is also the complicating factor of “faithless electors,” or members of the Electoral College who do not vote according to the popular vote in their states. At least six electoral voters have said they would not vote for Trump, despite the fact that he won their states.

The Clinton camp is running out of time to challenge the election. NYMag notes that according to one of the activists, the deadline in Wisconsin to file for a recount is Friday; in Pennsylvania, it’s Monday; and Michigan is next Wednesday.

Of course, should this happen, we can only imagine what carnage it would cause to global financial markets as the Trump Bump hope fades into the Clinton crash.

Finally, it appears that far from a frivolous flight of fancy, Huma Abedin's sister, Heba Abedin, has been encouraging her Facebook followers to call the Justice Department to have vote in key states audited.

None other than Nate Silver is now chiming in on these 'scientists' claims...

Which is also wonderfully ironic, though he does point out one glaring hole in their 'hacking theory'...

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knukles's picture

Before this is all over I'm going to be re-inserting my hemorrhoids for sanity.

flaminratzazz's picture

Been eyeballing a cave 15 miles off the payment..

remain calm's picture


NoDebt's picture

Yes, it was Trump with his limited campaign budget, non-existent ground game, while fighting against everyone tooth and nail, not the least of which was his own party, who had the time to go out and get people to cheat the machines in JUST the right electoral districts in JUST the right states to squeak himself an electoral victory.

TOTALLY plausible.  

sessinpo's picture

Actually, I do believe there was voting fraud like there has been for decades.

But the fraud was in favor of clinton. Trump would have won by a bigger landslide otherwise. The fraud gave the appearance that it was somewhat closer then it was.

Pinto Currency's picture

How do they deduct the 3M+ illegals that voted for Clinton

ornelwest's picture
ornelwest (not verified) Pinto Currency Nov 22, 2016 8:52 PM

would love to see proof of that claim, ha 

J S Bach's picture

If they open this can of worms, the cheating liberal democrats are doomed.  A furtherance of Investigations as to potential vote fraud would then be demanded for all of the blue states which would lead to complete chaos.  Maybe that's their intention.  We must remember that the whole rotten lot and their beloved system are corrupt to the core.

macholatte's picture


In the event Lunatic Crooked Hitlary is anointed POTUS, it will take her less than 30 minutes to have Trump & Sons hung from meat hooks, Ivanka and Melania fed to hungry Muslims and all of it televised as the half time show for the Super Bowl to the joy of globalists and sheeple around the world.
Love Trumps Hate


letsit's picture
letsit (not verified) macholatte Nov 22, 2016 9:45 PM

Forget vote fraud. What's being overlooked is the fact that billionaire Trump is of the money establishment. Meaning nothing will change.

J S Bach's picture

At this point, you've got to give Lord Trump a chance to prove himself, Letsit.  Again, we KNEW what we would have gotten with the witch in office.  Trump is still a wildcard whose word as actions is yet to be seen.  Basically, we still have nothing to lose with him in there (there's also the added assurance that WWIII is not imminent).

Save_America1st's picture
"Scientists" Create "Persuasive" Evidence Of Vote Hacking, Demand Clinton Recount In 3 States


there....fixed it fer ya ;-)

Maybe if they'd said "Scientologists" it would have possibly given a fraction of credibility to their statement.  lol

jcaz's picture

Well gee, if they are "scientists", then they must know what they're talking about.... Must be the same ones who "proved" that Global Warming is caused by man.....

BTW, exactly WHERE can I get a degree or accreditation in "Voting Science"?   Is that why it's called "Political Science"?

This story lost steam as soon as they put it on the sister of Hillary's ball-washer...  Really???  So SHE is the ONE person that figured this all out???   Yet she couldn't figure out that her own sister was married to a pedophile....

Piss off.

CuttingEdge's picture

Funny isn't it.

All the many provable voter fraud/manipulation incidents pre-election (Veritas etc) favoured who?

Dead people vote Democrat.

That should be their motto.



ThanksChump's picture

Let's do it over with paper ballots and photo IDs, fully monitored.


Clinton: 200

Trump: 371,877,418

jeff montanye's picture

sounds like one of clinton's better rallies.

but in all fairness, based on geography, she also took rhode island.

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture
Holy hand grenade of Antioch (not verified) CuttingEdge Nov 23, 2016 4:28 AM



it's poetry in motion ~ bitchez

Dormouse's picture

Remember what The Donald said: "The election is rigged." And people went apeshit! It was rigged by the intelligence community to ensure Clinton didn't win. They have been surveilling and documenting these peoples' crimes for 3 decades; those leaked emails come straight from the NSA. The belief is that as soon as Her secured the nomination, a team of [trained monkeys] began stuffing absentee ballots and rigging electronic vote machines. Some experts say she stole 20 million votes, others go so far as suggesting she stole 25-30 million votes on top of the illegals and buses of multivoters. The democrats are a huge minority but give the appearance of a 50% national party with optics in the media. They were manufacturing the consent of the people to be enslaved. Lock Her Up, get a rope!

A Nanny Moose's picture

What are your qualifications? Where's your white lab coat and Voting Science doctorate? /s

fleur de lis's picture

These are the same scientists who get heaps or money from the Dms for all kinds of stupid research projects.

Then the money disappears and no one knows what happened. 

More than a few of them are probably connected to colleges and universities requiring huge donations no questions asked.



Cloud9.5's picture

Soros et al have employed the tobacco lobby scientist to produce scientific evidence that Hillary won the election.  Muddy the waters, cast enough doubt on the election, incite open rebellion and take down the republic.  This has been the oligarch’s goal from the beginning.  The blood moons should have warned us that these events will be of Biblical proportions. Circle the wagons boys and girls and look to your own.  Dark days are upon us.

Save_America1st's picture

The Dems/Hitlery won't call for a recount ever.  It's over.  If they actually demanded for and then got a TRUE recount, do you know what the outcome would be????   It'd be an even larger landslide for Trump.

The vote rigging, in my opinion, has always been, was and is for the scumbags on the left to appear much closer or more dominant in America against the rest of us then those fuckers really are or ever were.  And this election most likely had the most fraudulent vote rigging ever.

And look at that map?  Look at the amount of votes we sort of know of at this point?  The vote rigging could never have been enough to sway the electoral votes over to Hitlery.

Those fuckers all knew it well in advance.  So did the media.  That's why it was such an all-out blitz of retarded proportions to the very end and is still going on now.  And we all know you never go full retard:

I pretty much believe that the lefties knew all along Hitlery was fucked...she did too.  They were hoping for a Hail Mary miracle AT BEST the WHOLE FUCKING TIME!

But as all Marxist, treasonous scumbags like they are always do....they never fucking stopped.  They never fucking quit with all the bullshit and rhetoric.  They kept going full speed ahead and are still going full retard!

So the vote rigging was real, and they did it to the max they possibly could without going so full retard overboard that they would easily get caught.

They rigged it enough just to keep Hitlery close and even a little higher in the "popular" vote, knowing she was going to get destroyed by the Electoral College vote.

The vote rigging was massive...but they only did it to keep her "looking" close and to seriously agitate their useless sheeple crazy fucking base of millenitards.

Ya gotta remember about these types of scumbags...they're fucking crazy at the top but very fucking smart.  They're using socialogical tactics against everyone learned over centuries of doing this shit to societies.

So they knew they were toast at this point in time...but they also knew that at worst it would be 4 years and they would never stop over the next 4 years doubling down against Trump and the other 80% of the country using every sick and twisted tactict they have as well as the treasonous media scum.

And look at how it's gone on so far just in 2 weeks????  They've doubled down on the rhetoric, lies, accusations, etc. etc. etc.

That's how they operate.  They never fucking stop.  They're like radiation...never stops and is always coming at you from all angles all the time for as long as it fucking takes.

They rigged the votes just to give the appearance of being "close" so that they could then attack the Electoral College system and cry about having won the "popular" vote and getting cheated.

They will never stop and they will always be back every single fucking election cycle.  Count on it. 

So we can't ever stop either.  The greatest things we have on our side are truth, facts, logic, history, as well as intelligence, civility, maturity, and the 2nd fucking amendment!!!

and keep stackin' silver, bitchez! ;-)

bluez's picture

The term "left" means nothing here. Even if it did (although it doesn't) it would not describe the Clintons. The Clintons are neocons, globalists, or Satanists if you prefer.

fleur de lis's picture

Just when you thought the NYT couldn't get any stupider --

They have Gyorgi Schwarz/George Soros written up as a "Holocaust Survivor."

Escapee from a psychiatric ward Survivor is more like it.


Kina's picture

Well it is well known now that the NY Times is just an oligarch front for the Swamp. The last thing they want is Trump to oust Clinton.

And the Soros backed violence at protests needs to be covered by a ...soros hates hate when in fact that is exactly what the oligarchs live off of.

sanjuandon's picture

By the way the NYT defines it anyone could calll themselves a Holocaust long as they support progressive ideas.

GoinFawr's picture

Well, where can be the harm in letting them dig then, if you're all so certain it's their own graves they are digging?

Give 'em the rope, I say!

If it's a petard they want, it's a petard they can hoist!

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X_in_Sweden (not verified) GoinFawr Nov 23, 2016 1:15 AM
The Clinton PIZZAGATE will destroy them.


SAVE the Children!!!

Please Watch:


**PEDO BROS. SMOKING GUN: The Podesta Brothers & Madeleine McCan**

**BREAKING NEWS: Podesta Brothers Pedo Ring: DRAIN THE SWAMP!! V: Guerrilla Economist**

STP's picture

The TPTB are doing their best to squash this.  The NY Times ran an article calling all of the 'allegations' fake news and James Alefantis is threatining to bring in the FBI.  Yesterday, the website Reddit killed the extensive thread going on there,

This community has been banned

This subreddit was banned due to a violation of our content policy. Specifically, the proliferation of personal and confidential information. We don’t want witchhunts on our site.

Banned 14 hours ago. But it's popped up somewhere else, all the threads preserved.  On Twitter, it is huge!  There have been nearly 2000 tweets overnight as I watch on Pizzagate.  A fellow ZH'r had a link to the 20 year old, Discovery Channel documentary that never aired, because the Discovery Channel yanked it.  It is called 'The Conspiracy of Silence'.  Watch it and you'll understand why we're at the place we are now.  Crappy quality and audio, from likely a stolen VHS pre-edit, before they destroyed all the copies, but the message is clear enough
New_Meat's picture

we hear rumours that ol' Georgie is sick and maybe on his death bed.  That chaos would be a good parting gift to him, in some of his acolyte's eyes.

centerline's picture

I think it is bait.  And the Hillary camp isn't going to take it.  They aren't that stupid.

auricle's picture

One sided research like Melissa Zimdars 'Fake News' list. These so called scientists are doing more damage to science each time they come out with tripe like this. You know what would make this science believable is if they could get 90% of scientists to agree, because concensus science is the new science. 

Troy Ounce's picture





"Consensus" is a political construct and has nothing to do with science.

GoinFawr's picture

unless it's in the basic maths ?

New_Meat's picture

common core math : math :: political science : science

GoinFawr's picture

a consensus derived from deductive and/or strong inductive argument : science :: consensus derived from echochambermaidening : ZH moonbatz

shimmy's picture

Yeah, having a majority of scientists in agreement is a sure sign something must be true since there is just no way scientists can be bought and paid for or that they have an agenda. Somehow scientists aren't humans.

I am tired of socety's blind faith in science/scientists, taking almost everything they say as fact. Most scientists now are full of shit and are purely there to push whatever political agenda is desired. They're basically like the media now except people trust them more since they have that silly belief that scientists are impartial. 

Nobody For President's picture

Melissa Zimdar and 'scientist' in the same paragraph?

For shame, sir.

BillyBass's picture

That article is crap.  The study cited is full of "possible.... maybe...."  

Colorado's study compared voters to drivers' licenses, and yielded, get this, less than a dozen actual charges.  This is after Gessler told the world that there were over 5,000 cases of voter fraud in CO.  

The real voter fraud is closing over 800 polliing stations since the last presidential election.  Which, shockingly, led to some people having to wait over 5 hours to vote.  That, my friend, is the real voter fraud. 

Luc X. Ifer's picture

So TPTB decided that having Civil War 2 or WW3 are viable options.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

It is more likely that the paper ballot boxes were stuffed in favor of HRC than

the electronic voting machines were hacked in favor of Trump.

nailgunner44's picture

And those people waiting in line that long wouldn't be doing so to see World War 3 get kicked off.

mpnut's picture

So Hillary only got 7% and should have been more because they should know, they rigged it so that more should have resulted in Hillary winning.  Maybe now they have finally fixed the machine and should allow Hillary to win this time..  Good one guys... Good one...

cheech_wizard's picture

You know who really loves 5 day old trolls?

John and Tony Podesta.

Standard Disclaimer: See that search bar at the top of your screen? I suggest you try   They are always happy to accept someone onto the plantation.

deimosaffair's picture

when the answer is just a google away, and you still choose to display your ignorance, what can be said?


perhaps, shut close your meathole, insert your digits in your ass, and don't be so retard.