Could Pelosi Actually Lose Leadership Vote: "A Lot Of People Are Going To Be Surprised Tomorrow"

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Democratic representative Tim Ryan of Ohio is a long shot to unseat Nancy Pelosi in the vote for the minority leadership position to be held tomorrow, but he's convinced that "a lot of people are going to be surprised" by the vote tallies.

“I think a lot of people are going to be surprised tomorrow.”


“I think we need a change.  Again, we’re at the smallest number we’ve had in our Democratic caucus since 1929.”


"We really got to ask ourselves when we walk out of the room tomorrow, what are we going to tell the American people?  That what happened on Tuesday and what we've not been able to do since 2010 is ok?  We're gonna keep going down the same path.  Or, will we have a new messenger, a new message, a new brand and a new democratic party?"


Ryan has launched a bid to unseat Pelosi based largely on the premise that Rust Belt voters in the Midwest have abandoned the democratic party precisely because of the elitism exhibited the San Francisco liberal.  While Pelosi is known for her ability to raise substantial amounts of cash for the democratic party, $141 million in the past cycle alone according to The Hill, Ryan argues that electing a House leader with a broader appeal is far more important.

Ryan’s challenge hinges largely on the argument that Pelosi, a San Francisco liberal widely despised in conservative circles, simply projects the wrong image for a party hoping to broaden its appeal to the Rust Belt voters who flocked to Trump.


“We have got to have the right messenger,” he said. “We have got to have someone who cannot just go on MSNBC, but go on Fox and Fox Business and CNBC and go into union halls and fish fries and churches all over the country and start a brush fire about what a new Democratic Party looks like.”


Leader Pelosi is an incredibly strong fundraiser, she’s an incredibly dynamic leader, she gets out there and gets the caucus to do things together that most other leaders would have a very hard time doing. But that’s come at an expense,” a former Democratic leadership aide said Monday.


Pelosi also has a huge advantage when it comes to fundraising, having hauled in more than $141 million for the party this cycle alone, according to her office. Ryan, by contrast, raised less than $1 million — far less than the average member, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.


Of course, some democrats apparently learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 presidential election and still insist that Pelosi's fundraising efforts are critical to the future of the party.  But as Tim Ryan points out "if money was the answer, Hillary Clinton would be president and
we would be in charge of the House of Representatives right now.”

“The most important messenger in American politics is money, and the ability to get on the air, get on social media, get on media that are relevant to voters is really expensive, and she has done a phenomenal job at giving us that opportunity,” the former lawmaker said Monday. “I don’t think there’s anyone who can come close to matching what she has done.”


Ryan has rejected that argument, saying the focus on campaign cash is misguided.

Meanwhile, Ryan has also drawn support from a host of young House democrats who have been prevented from rising up the leadership ranks by a stagnant group of Pelosi loyalists.

The elections have also heightened long-standing aggravations among newer members that the long reign of Pelosi and her top deputies — all of whom are in their mid-70s — has prevented other members from rising through the leadership ranks.


“There’s a generation of Democratic leaders who have been stymied or held down or even cut off at the knees to keep her and [Maryland Rep. Steny] Hoyer and others in power,” the former aide added.


“So you have a number of members who look at the agendas and question why, when the country is worried about the economy and jobs, the Democrats are out talking about women power and some of the core liberal issues that aren’t going to play well in the places that Democrats have to win if they’re going to take back the majority.”

Certainly, if the democrats learned anything from the 2016 presidential election they would understand that it represented a rebellion of the American people against establishment political figures like Nancy Pelosi.  That said, somehow we suspect the message hasn't quite sunk in yet.

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Raffie's picture

Her and Feistein I loathe SO MUCH....

They only represent the RICH pedople and whats in it for them.

I think they are as bad as Hillary.

AllTimeWhys's picture

It's all about money money money, gimme, gimme, gimme to them. 

LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD's picture
LowerSlowerDelaware_LSD (not verified) AllTimeWhys Nov 29, 2016 1:23 PM

WAY to many misogynist, sexist, anti-woman, brain damaged, libtards in the democrat party to vote for a woman. At least that's what the unindicted felon, Hillary(!), has been telling me...

And isn't Pelosi's husband a RICH BANKER old guy?

SomethingSomethingDarkSide's picture

Crypt Keeper can return to scaring children on Friday Night Television

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture
Holy hand grenade of Antioch (not verified) SomethingSomethingDarkSide Nov 29, 2016 1:43 PM

Shitstains on the pages of history.

jcaz's picture

Good bye, you crazy bitch whore.......   Ah, that felt goooooood..........

Gead's picture

I hope this diseased hag of a hooker finds out real soon that she's not got any commodity she can sell for Jack-Shit. Justice would be served if she has to live her life out servicing scabby homeless bums for scavenged MacDonald's burger bun crusts.

JRobby's picture

Put the old gal out to pasture............then 

CuttingEdge's picture

If Ellison gets the DNC chair, its the Democrats going full retard minotity/fringe supporters the way Labour did in the UK when they put Corbyn in.

Out of power for a generation.


Rey dTutto's picture

I suspect Pelosi will hold on for another round, and the Fire eaters will be cut out again, and the dems will implode with identity politics and SJW freakouts for some time.

Never go Full Retard.

City_Of_Champyinz's picture

And that is exactly what I am hoping for.  Then we can work on the corrupt idiot RINOs...

Magnix's picture

I think he just want to meet him to tell him hes no longer interested Romney. :-)

Arnold's picture

If I were Agent Orange, I would be asking Mittens who he had in mind for key positions. I would guess Mittens had a bunch of them worked out in advance of election day. Trump hasn't run with that crowd.

McCain, was just a chair warmer.

Why do Boxing Champions enter the ring when they are well beyond their use by dates.

exonomic halfbreed's picture

I am 62 years old and grew up among some of the wealthiest families in the country.  The current democratic party is nothing other than a communist party.  

Who is it that you can not criticize in our so called free society?

Jim in MN's picture

OT, this is pretty interesting.  Maybe worth a post Tylers hmmmmm?  Recalling that one of the most telling Podesta email trails was about the Israeli hawks telling the Clinton camp not the let 'those two-state people' anywhere near positions of power in a presumed Clinton Administration.


Jimmy Carter: America Must Recognize Palestine
Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Jim in MN Nov 29, 2016 1:50 PM

DNC 2 was released on Nov 6th and then wikileaks was attacked, nobody was paying attention.

It said Obama paid $65,000 of taxpayer money to fly the "pizza/dogs" (girls/boys) come to the white house from Chicago.

At exactly the same time, James Comey "pardoned" Hillary Clinton again, citing that there were no new details to be revealed from re-opening the investigation. I doubt that the timing was a coincidence. It appears the U.S. government was attempting to thwart the distribution of DNC2Leak, which was a part of Wikileaks Phase 3 campaign. Also, the night of November 6, 2016 saw a DDOS attack on Wikileaks. It was the first time their website went down in several years. Reddit, 4chan, and Twitter, all of which repost Wikileaks, also went down at the same time. Clearly, there was a coordinated effort from the U.S. government to stop DNC2Leak from spreading.

In DNC2Leak, Stratfor officials point out that Vince Foster and Ron Brown were victims of Hillary. Brown was killed because he was "inconveniently talkative." Foster was a victim after he was poised to leak a major Hillary scandal back in the 1990s, some believe it was related to Whitewater.

What most don't know is that Stratfor has a lengthy history of close relations to Hillary Clinton and John Podesta. According to Wayne Madsen, an intelligence expert and journalist, Stratfor is a part of a large conglomerate supporting Hillary that involved foreign intelligence, Israeli groups, high-ranking political officials, etc. Hillary's "33,000" emails could have been a tip of the iceberg, that led into a crime syndicate so huge, that is would implicate thousands of industry leaders, heads of states, and celebrities. High-profile child trafficking rings have been exposed in Great Britain, Norway, and the United States recently. I believe we are seeing the scandal of the century opening up.


Miss Expectations's picture

Macaulay Culkin's in a band called The Pizza Underground. Sad pics


Chris Dakota's picture
Chris Dakota (not verified) Miss Expectations Nov 29, 2016 3:09 PM

Poor thing.

There was a video a couple of years ago of him in Montana at some concert kissing some really old guy, not attractive.

 guys in the email exchange re Obama flying Pizza and dogs into white house.

all worked for Stratfor

This CIA funded early facebook, Peter Theil also funded by facebook

I want to puke......

drendebe10's picture

"There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman "  Redd Foxx

sgt_doom's picture

Nancy "my son works at Countrywide" Pelosi?

Say it ain't so?????


caconhma's picture

The Democratic Party is a political wing of the zio-banking mafia. Period!

Colonel Klink's picture

Nancy Piglosi, Diane Fiendslime, Barbara Boxeater, Moron Waters, et. al. should all eat shit and die ASAP.

Badsamm's picture

She can always go home to that comfortable $16 million dollars house on the hill in San Francisco.

CalifornianSeven's picture

Amen and they also got rich from antics on various committees at the expense of American tax payers....

Mareka's picture

I sure hope Pelosi wins.
She is taking the party in the right direction.
Complete implosion.

izzee's picture

"We have to wait until tomorrow to find out what happened today."

I need more eyes my eyes

Raffie's picture

Nancy needs the new ROUNDUP botox.

Round up them wrinkles once and for all.

hotrod's picture

She is an absolute LOON.

Theta_Burn's picture

More retard than evil.. and many thought maxine waters would be a tough act to follow..

Pelosi in full alzheimic display..

This is who the dims want as a messenger? she can't even read the fucking script anymore.

Somebody keeps throwing money at her.. theres your brand..

mccvilb's picture

Tim Ryan doesn't get it either. The Dems are still in election mode. Someone needs to tell them this isn't Groundhog Day. A new minority leader who thinks putting a new face on the campaign will fix everything isn't changing anything. How about using Chuck Todd as a megaphone?  Oh yeah, that will fool them.

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Clashfan's picture

TY for that link, Theta Talk about meltdown.

Who is piltdown woman nodding alongside? Both look aged, tribal, and seriously disturbed.

NoWayJose's picture

Please let her win - she is a hated lightning rod - and her opposition to anything will help it pass!

NumberNone's picture

I agree but I think the Dems have learned their lesson.  I look for less of an 'urban' message coming from them going forward and much more focus on the folksy rural folks in flyover country.  I expect this new love affair with flyover country will start appearing in all MSM soon.  

cheech_wizard's picture

To which flyover country will respond with a heartfelt "Fuck Off".

Standard Disclaimer: Time to put Claire McCaskill out to pasture in 2018...(another decrepit fossil of the Democratic Party)

scoutshonor's picture

That may be their play, but it probably will fall flat.  Remember Dukakis in the extra large helment riding in a tank?  Remember Kerry decked out in hunting gear with an extra long shotgun?


You can take the dipshit out of the city but it is nearly impossible to take the city out of the dipshit.  I'm guessing you have heard the expression "All hat and no cattle"--well this crew ain't even got a hat.

Ex-Oligarch's picture

It's also not likely to play well to the democratic base, which is heavily invested in snarky condescension towards anyone who is not either a member of a privileged identity group, or a wealthy urban democrat.  I know democrats in San Francisco who still gleefully refer to Dick Cheney's shotgun accident as proof of the bumbling but sinister brutality of hunters and rural folks in general.  Yes, gleefully.

TheABaum's picture

Yeah right, Keith Ellison is real "folksy".

Let's face it, the Democrats are a hodge-podge of:


Rent Seekers (Especially Banksters)

Illegal Aliens

Sexual Deviants

Welfare Recipients


Earth (Gaia) Worshippers.






iAmerican3's picture
iAmerican3 (not verified) Nov 29, 2016 1:20 PM

Is it a knock in the #pizzagate-controlled Congress that clown Pelosi is but another operative of her Mafia-front D'Alesandro family?

Bryan's picture

The Democratic Party is dying and relies on fringe elements in the leftist movement to keep the narrative going.  The problem they have is that their narrative requires suspension of intellect, reason and reality.  That's a tough plate to keep spinning up on the stick in the air.

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PoasterToaster (not verified) Nov 29, 2016 1:21 PM

Is she involved in the Democrat pedophile scandal too?

1777's picture

ANYONE on Earth, so long as I don't have to look at that anymore!