A 'Disintegrative Winter': The Debt And Anti-Status Quo Super-Cycle Has Turned

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,

With this list of manifestations in hand, we can practically write the headlines for 2017-2025 in advance.

How would you describe the social mood of the nation and world? Would anti-Establishment, anti-status quo, and anti-globalization be a good start? How about choking on fast-rising debt? Would stagnant growth, stagnant wages be a fair description? Or how about rising wealth/income inequality? Wouldn't rising disunity and political polarization be accurate?

These are all characteristics of the long-wave social-economic cycle that is entering the disintegrative (winter) phase. Souring social mood, loss of purchasing power, stagnating wages, rising inequality, devaluing currencies, rising debt, political polarization and elite disunity are all manifestations of this phase.

I have covered the cyclical nature of human social orders many times, most recently in We've Entered an Era of Rising Instability and Uncertainty (July 18, 2016)

Now Is the Winter of our Discontent: Our Era of Rising Discord (November 16, 2016)

How The Seeds Of Revolution Take Root: the Middle Class Loses Upward Mobility (February 26, 2016)

Historians David Hackett Fischer (The Great Wave: Price Revolutions and the Rhythm of History) and Peter Turchin (Ages of Discord) have assembled data and models for these long-term cycles.

Based on the history painstakingly assembled by Fischer and Turchin we can anticipate:

-- Ever higher prices for what I call the FEW Essentials: food, energy and water.

-- Ever larger government deficits which end in bankruptcy/repudiation of debts/new issue of currency.

-- Rising property/violent crime and illegitimacy.

-- Rising interest rates (until very recently this was considered "impossible").

-- Rising income inequality in favor of capital over labor.

-- Continued debasement of the currency.

-- Rising volatility of prices.

-- Rising political unrest and turmoil (see "Revolution").

With this list of manifestations in hand, we can practically write the headlines for 2017-2025 in advance.

Gordon Long and discuss these overlapping/ reinforcing social, political and economic cycles in a new video Cycles: Anti-Globalization and the Debt Super-Cycle. Here is a chart from the program that displays the rise of political polarization:

As for rising wealth/income inequality, the apex controls the money and thus the power:

Gordon and I also discuss the many different cyclical analyses that are now overlapping. Cyclical analyses based on demographics, socionomics, debt, wages and prices are all issuing the same conclusion: we're in the Disintegrative Winter phase of a multi-decade socio-economic cycle.

Here's our discussion of Cycles: Anti-Globalization and the Debt Super Cycle (30 minutes):


Gordon's abstract of the program: Cycles and the End of the Debt Super-Cycle

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Skiprrrdog's picture

Dayummm... I dont think a rapefugee amped up on PCP and Viagra would hit that...

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) Fizzy Head Dec 5, 2016 4:15 PM

The ONLY practical solution is to put them ALL on a ship and send them back.  Anything short of that will mean MAJOR pain and eventual OBLITERATION of Caucasions and Christianity.


cougar_w's picture

I guess you are referring to the Irish? Or perhaps Italians? No wait it must be the Chinese.

FatTony7915726's picture

To me Muslims and Jews are part of the same bloodline, semites from the terrible seed of Abraham.  How did Abraham get his wealth: stolen just like the present day jews!


GENESIS 12:10-20

10Now there was a famine in the land; so Abram went down to Egypt to sojourn there, for the famine was severe in the land. 11It came about when he came near to Egypt, that he said to Sarai his wife, “See now, I know that you are a beautiful woman; 12and when the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife’; and they will kill me, but they will let you live. 13“Please say that you are my sister so that it may go well with me because of you, and that I may live on account of you.” 14It came about when Abram came into Egypt, the Egyptians saw that the woman was very beautiful. 15Pharaoh’s officials saw her and praised her to Pharaoh; and the woman was taken into Pharaoh’s house. 16Therefore he treated Abram well for her sake; and gave him sheep and oxen and donkeys and male and female servants and female donkeys and camels.

      17But the LORD struck Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai, Abram’s wife. 18Then Pharaoh called Abram and said, “What is this you have done to me? Why did you not tell me that she was your wife? 19“Why did you say, ‘She is my sister,’ so that I took her for my wife? Now then, here is your wife, take her and go.” 20Pharaoh commanded his men concerning him; and they escorted him away, with his wife and all that belonged to him.

The Juggernaut's picture

Sharpen those pitchforks.

flaminratzazz's picture

thats antisemitic and raaaacccyyysssss

backspaceone's picture

lol trump is status quo. look at his cabinet picks.  he wants more debt, tax cuts, and defense spending. his carrier deal was a gimmick 

walküre's picture

Pick of Secretary of Defense is by all imagination a warrior. What type of message is that supposed to send around the world? I'm still chewing on that one.

Trogdor's picture

Si Vi Pacem Para bellum (?)

Witness's picture

His cabinet picks don't mean shit atm

rich1657's picture

Name eight things Penny Pritzker accomplished as Madam Secretary of Commerce.

LawsofPhysics's picture

What is this, another article from 1971?


Why would The Fed raise rates now?  Nothing has fundamentally changed in the data. So Trump was "elected", so what?  The Fed is "apolitical" and "data dependent" right?


"Full faith and credit"...

The Saint's picture
The Saint (not verified) LawsofPhysics Dec 5, 2016 4:18 PM

Janet wants to hit Trump before he hits her.


LawsofPhysics's picture

"As for rising wealth/income inequality, the apex controls the money and thus the power:"


Sure, sure, at least so long as that "money" is accepted anyway...

Time to redefine "wealth" again.

LawsofPhysics's picture

So, it's the "independents" that are the problem, I wonder if they read fake news...

flaminratzazz's picture

The front-page of the hedge looks like it was a pic from inside the sinning gog of satan

conraddobler's picture

I see the mythology of rising interest rates is again upon us.

If you think of the rent on money as it's interest rate then what is the rental rate of an infinite apartment complex???? Hmmm?

Hint it's zero or if you will you might have to pay people to live there "negative rates" and if this changes and they stop printing money, then all of this will not make it to that timeframe but go poof sooner rather than later.


TuPhat's picture

You seem to think your infinite apartment complex is actually possible.  It isn't.  It would be impossible to keep up with the maintenance and the whole structure would collapse.  The Fed knows there is a limit to money printing that will cause a collapse if they go too far.  They will stay withing that limit even if it means letting rates rise until the day they are ready for the collapse.  They do not have total control but they think they have enough  control to do exactly what they want.  It won't work out well for them or for any of the rest of us either.  Prepare accordingly.

Mini-Me's picture

Don't mind those constant boating accidents.  Keep stacking.

FrankieGoesToHollywood's picture

End of the debt supper cycle huh?  Does it finally end with a single after dinner mint?  https://youtu.be/rXH_12QWWg8

CJgipper's picture

You say winter, I say spring.  Same difference, right?

Herdee's picture

Just watch what happens to the stock market and pension funds when they start to bump up interest rates. Government tax recepts are falling even now at low rates. Calculate whe government will get their tax money from when they kill the economy with higher rates. It doesn't add up unless you print to pay for the bills. Trump want a Trillion just for infrastructure.

ReignDeer's picture

Yeah, the analysis is correct, though they forgot that dollars are backed by fear.

south40_dreams's picture

We have "efficiencied" ourselves into a corner. Armies of beady eyed MBAs have cut the fat to the point where the patient won't survive. What we really need right now is inefficiency on a massive scale

carambar's picture

I do not want to break your bubble but the anti globalisation only won in the US and very maginally. In France , LEPEn is out. the ill designed Renzi electoral law was voted down which mean that 5stars has no chance to win in 2018. Autria voted to keep the anti globalisation crazies out.

What we are left with is 2 anglosaxon countries with leaders that work to push their own countries over the cliff of less growth and loss of soft power/influence. Well done! 

LawsofPhysics's picture

"cliff of less growth" ...


LOL!!!  Still believe in infinite growth in a biosphere with finite resources?

good luck with that!

SunRise's picture

How do you know they're finite?

farmerbraun's picture

Too soon to say, I feel. :-)

bshirley1968's picture

Human nature dictates that globalism will win.

Tell me a time in histroy when the masses weren't clamoring for some "Dear Leader" to "show them the way".  90% of people want someone telling them what to do and when to do it.  It's called a lack of personal responsibiliity.  If someone tells me what to do, I don't have to think of it of take responsibility for it.  People may not be happy with who is in charge, but you can bet they want someone in charge.

The only real bitching going on right now revolves around money.  The globalist squeezed too tight too soon.  If they could figure out how to complete their agenda and give everyone more money to satisfy their each and every lust, the bitching would stop.  Have no fear, they will double down, bring the paid, and the bitching will be directed at the "nationalist/populist".  Most humans are as fickel as a 12 year old girl.

Make no mistake, the globalist control the real power because they control the banking and finance.  Trump is just a boy in his playhouse in the real scheme of things.  He steps out of line and he will get JFKed.  So much power and money involved that most of us cannot even comprehend it.  We are talking about the whole ball of wax here.

Bring some real pain like a "real" war or an economic meltdown, and the masses will scream for the globalist to come and save them.  Kind of got the feeling that is what is coming in the near future.  All this talk of the defeat of globalism is funny.  The collective is alive and well.

just the tip's picture



well.  it's not a week into december, and i'm already sick of that damned 12 days horseshit.  What for some is a holiday season, I would like to send this message to all the posters/commenters here at ZH my christmas wish for yourselves.

Yeah, I know it's early, but this is my christmas card to all of you.  I have been of the thinking that most of you will /can relate to this song.  And if christmas is not in your belief system, well, this song goes out to you anyway.

maybe, just maybe, this will replace that damned 12 days horseshit melody for you as well.


gdpetti's picture

Well, again it's a cycle within a cycle within a cycle etc... and this is why the libraries are burnt, to get rid of any data on these issues, but the main one is Mother Nature's cycles... the old 'gods' are set to return in various manners and means.... comets being the main factor influencing the sun which influences the planets. Add in an even larger cycle of a dimensional sort along with an even longer cycle of our binary dark star and the meaning of 'end-times' becomes more meaningful... It isn't just the economy this time. It isn't just the usual SG/PTB/establishment manipulation of the masses... there's a much bigger game or cycle at work. The question is exactly when, same with the collapse of our markets etc... there is always wiggle room, as in the end all of creation is consciousness enteracting with itself. Time is never fixed, but variable, as all these trigger events with their own cycles are part of larger cycles, and the larger the cycle seen, the more wiggle room... but in the end, eerything physical begins and ends, same as it started. Winter doesn't always start on the govt's officially designated day, but it always comes, for better or for worse, and it seems from the long term charts, that we've seen the best and warmest, so the worse and coldest is to come. Interglacials only last so long, especially as the various trigger events unfold. Next up in this mix of variables is an ice age interacting with all these other cycles.... esoterically known as the closing of the Grand Cycle.

All the variables are starting to lock into place...

farmerbraun's picture

Now let me see. We have Mercury in Sagittarius ;Venus in Capricorn; Mars in Capricorn. The Moon has just entered Aquarius. The Sun is in Scorpio.
Are you saying that I should be mowing my hay?

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PoasterToaster (not verified) Dec 5, 2016 5:19 PM

Tower of Babel.  That's what happens to Globalism when disparate oligarchies try to cooperate.

Radical Marijuana's picture

It is NOT merely a "Super Cycle."

It is actually the "Super Spirals."

Although Hugh-Smith's writing provides some of the more interesting, superficially correct, analysis, those which are alleged to be relatively more outside of the "mainstream," are still more inside that "mainstream," due to deeper degrees to which those continue to take too much more granted the overall frames of reference within everything else is being discussed.

One of those superficially correct analysis characteristics are the ways in which political economy is excessively psychologized. Another is to presume that there are only repeating cycles, rather than wilder & wilder spirals, spinning more out of control! Those two typical kinds of superficialities are superimposed and support each other. One of the most famous of the superficialities due to excessively psychologized interpretations of events inside the context of political economy was Greenspan's reference to "irrational exuberance."

20 Years Later, Greenspan's "Irrational Exuberance" Has Become Even More Irrational

The actual FUNDAMENTALS of the existing political economies are based upon the ways that public governments ENFORCE FRAUDS by private banks, and the big corporations that grow up around those big banks being able to create the public "money" supplies out of nothing as debts. The apparent "irrational exuberance" is driven by the degree to which different groups of people may be closer to the SOURCES of that new "money" made out of nothing. That kind of political economy always developed INSIDE human ecology, whereby that "money" was based on measurements backed by murders. People who tend to indulge in superficial criticisms of the "elite parasites" (as Hugh-Smith & Long do in that video), who are closer to the SOURCES OF ENFORCED FRAUDS, tend to stay within the overall frame of reference regarding "economics" that deliberately does not look at the bigger picture of the ways that the debt controls were backed up by the death controls.

That sort of superficially correct analysis tends to stay within the old-fashioned ways of thinking, which developed when there were mostly national currencies, which were paper "money" frauds, backed by gunpowder weapons, which have rapidly become astronomically amplified by many order of magnitude, to become globalized electronic "money" frauds, backed by the threats from atomic weapons. Given that "money" made out of nothing as debts was "paying" to strip-mine the natural resources of a finite planet, there was NOT merely cycles, but rather, spirals of exponentially increasing strip-mining, matched by exponentially increasing debts, based upon enforced frauds, which advancing technologies were enabled to become exponentially more fraudulent. At about the 20 minute mark of the video embedded in the article above Hugh-Smith & Long raise the buzz words regarding the need for paradigm shifts. As usual, their notions regarding such paradigm shifts are way too superficial, which follows from their continued kinds of characteristically superficial analysis.

"The debt super cycle" is actual a super spiral, which has nothing in previous human history to be compared to, because there is nothing in previous human history to compare to globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from atomic weapons. Or, to push that further, everything which exists actually exists in the forms of toroidal vortices, which are oversimplified to be perceived as merely widening spirals, (and even more over-simplified to be regarded as merely repeating cycles.) The about exponential progress in technologies was enabled by series of intellectual scientific revolutions and profound paradigm shifts in mathematical physics. HOWEVER, political science continues to deliberately NOT go through series of sufficient paradigm shifts, which is reflected in the ways that people tend to continue to excessively psychologize political economy problems, which reiterate themselves in the ways that there is the understatements regarding there merely being cycles, rather than unprecedentedly greater and GREATER SPIRALS!

The conclusion to the video embedded in that article expresses Hugh-Smith sense of there still being some false fundamental dichotomies between "productive" economic activities, versus activities which are "not productive." However, everyone lives as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows. There is nobody who is actually "productive" in the mythical ways which have developed to become commonly accepted kinds of bullshit, which were promoted by the international bankers, more and more, for several Centuries ... Globalized Neolithic Civilization almost totally operates through fundamental fraudulent financial accounting systems, which depend upon public governments enforcing frauds by private banks, which actually amount to nothing more than triumphant bookkeeping tricks. In turn, those kinds of magical mathematics, as the public "money" supplies are created out of nothing as debts, and can disappear back to nothing when those debts disappear, only exist because those FRAUDS ARE ENFORCED.

The existing political economy developed INSIDE the existing human ecology. Thus, the debt controls based upon the maximum possible frauds were backed up by death controls based on the maximum possible deceits. Everyone who is making "money" within the established systems is necessarily participating INSIDE systems of more or less organized lies operating robberies. However, those people also necessarily become most socially successful by becoming the best available professional hypocrites, which can spout the bullshit stories regarding alleged "economic" activities which stay INSIDE the frames of reference made and maintained by ENFORCING FRAUDS, which necessarily deliberately ignore the principle of the conservation of energy as much as possible, while simultaneously misunderstanding the concept of entropy in the most absurdly backward ways, in order to better take advantage of living INSIDE ENFORCED FRAUDS, which are socially successful for those doing THAT to the degree to which they can publicly get away with being as dishonest as possible about themselves actually doing that.

The most important real trends were driven by prodigious progress in mathematical physics, enabling technologies to become many orders of magnitude more capable and powerful. Those are NOT merely repeating cycles, but widening and wilder spirals, (or exponentially amplifying toroidal vortices.) The political economy based upon enforcing frauds has become exponentially more fraudulent, to degrees which are orders of magnitude greater than anything which has previously happened in human history! Technologies based upon better and better understanding of natural energy systems have been channeled through sociopolitical systems which were always based on being able to back up lies with violence, such that those enforced frauds have become exponentially more fraudulent (while, so far, those developments have been contained to appear like those were somehow "frozen in history," despite actually being pumped up and UP!)

While people like Hugh-Smith and Long superficially recognize that paradigm shifts in the ways "we should" perceive political economy are becoming increasingly imperative, they actually do not come remotely close to doing so, but rather, may be described as being light years away from sufficiently doing so (since they do not do anything to change the ways that they think about political science which attempts to reconcile itself with the experimentally confirmed changes in world view driven by the special theory of relativity, et alia.)

At the present time, the primary political issues are the growing Grand Canyon Chasms between prodigious progress in physical science, WITHOUT any matching, much less surpassing, progress in political science. The primary reasons for that are the ways that the existing political economy is almost totally based upon enforcing frauds, which require people who are successfully adapted to living INSIDE those systems deliberately ignore and misunderstand the basic laws of nature as much as possible, because that is what is necessary for enforced frauds to continue to be socially successful (such that those who make "money" INSIDE those systems are able to continue to drown in their own bullshit, which they must attempt to spout at exponentially increasing rates, due to ways that their enforced frauds are enabled by exponentially increasing technologies to become exponentially increasing fraudulence.

That exponentially increasing fraudulence is NOT merely a super debt cycle, but rather, out of control super spirals, due to enforced frauds becoming astronomically amplified by more and more orders of magnitude, in ways which have nothing to compare to in previous human history. Those are especially spinning out of control because of the ways that almost everyone who is socially successful INSIDE the established systems continues to take too much for granted staying INSIDE the same old-fashioned frames of reference, whereby Globalized Neolithic Civilization manages to maintain the most unscientific opinions possible regarding itself, since those were what was necessary to make in order to build everything on the basis of being able to enforce frauds, in ways which would adamantly refuse to admit and address how and why those existing systems based upon enforcing frauds were able to develop.

The super debt cycle is due to enforced frauds becoming exponentially more fraudulent. Those, in turn, are the reasons for more people noticing how blatant that has become, and therefore, the sources of the diffuse sets of opinions which are turning against those established systems based upon enforcing frauds, which were previously so relatively easy to make and maintain. I.e., the growth of publicly significant "anti-Establishment, anti-status quo, and anti-globalization," reaching sufficient tipping points, such as with Brexit, Trump, and Italian referendum, etc. ...


ALL "anti-Establishment, anti-status quo, and anti-globalization," public opinions, so far, continue to be based upon superficially correct analysis. However, none of those are going through enough paradigm shifts, but rather, are ONLY based upon recognizing the increasingly blatant anomalies, as sociopolitical systems based upon enforcing frauds necessarily become exponentially more fraudulent, because those were actually enabled to do that previously, through the series of industrial revolutions being able to rape and pillage the natural resources of fresh planet, which had never before had those industrial technologies applied to it.

In my opinion, while Hugh-Smith and Long do mention that paradigm shifts are becoming more apparently imperative, there is nothing in their presentations that actually do that in any sufficient ways, because in order to do that, one has to engage in super spirals of transformative criticisms of the philosophy of science, in ways which simultaneously change enormous errors in political science, which covertly also enabled enormous errors in the interpretation of the philosophy of physical science. Anyone who still thinks AS IF there are only still problems with political economy which could be understood in terms of the previous systems of paper "money" frauds, backed by the force of gunpowder weapons, has become orders of magnitude out of touch with globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from atomic weapons. Moreover, anyone still operating within taking for granted those old-fashioned frame of reference, such as now represented by every publicly significant religion and ideology, has actually become psychotically out of touch with the physical realities of enforced frauds becoming exponentially more fraudulent.

At the present time, the growing Grand Canyon Chasms between physical science and political science appear to have become unbridgeable gaps! Although it is theoretically possible to better understand human beings and civilization as manifestations of general energy systems, it is politically impossible to do so, due to the ways that natural selection pressures have driven the development of artificial selection systems to become based on the maximum possible dishonesties. Therefore, while human beings and civilization actually live as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows, they do so in ways which are as deliberately dishonest about themselves as humanly possible, and furthermore, those who became the most successful at living as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows necessarily became the most successfully dishonest regarding what they were really doing.

Everyone making "money" is doing so INSIDE ENFORCED FRAUDS, BECOMING EXPONENTIALLY MORE FRAUDULENT, while those are the systems that have been developed for thousands of years, such that those almost totally dominate Globalized Neolithic Civilization. Since the most socially successful people have become the best available professional hypocrites, who deliberately ignore and misunderstand the laws of nature as much as humanly possible, there are no good grounds to expect those exponentially increasing sociopolitical psychosis to correct themselves in any other ways than by driving themselves through series of psychotic breakdowns.

At the same time as some human beings have better and better understood some of the laws of nature, nothing like that which has happened in physical science has been allowed to happen in political science. I emphasize again that while genuine progress in political science appears to be theoretically possible, at the present time such series of intellectual scientific revolutions and profound paradigm shifts in political science are politically impossible. Rather, the previous evidence of human history going through cycles is headed towards wider and wilder spirals.

The essential problems with excessively psychologizing that are that such superficial approaches deliberately do NOT attempt to connect natural and artificial selection pressures with how and why those kinds of psychologies were selected to become more frequent. Rather, most of popular psychology overlaps with the rest of social sciences, inasmuch as those are dominated by the history of being able to back up deceits with destruction morphed to become being able to enforce frauds. Almost all, roughly one could say 99% of psychology and social science, is primarily employed to make most people become more insane, by forcing them to adapt to living INSIDE systems based upon FRAUDS.

Therefore, almost all of the prodigious progress in physical science ends up becoming applied INSIDE an increasingly oxymoronic scientific dictatorship, which adamantly refuses to become any more scientific about itself. The vast majority of people are NOT interested in coming to terms with the degree to which their lives are controlled by ENFORCED FRAUDS, especially because doing so has to cope with comprehending that those ARE BECOMING EXPONENTIALLY MORE SO! But nevertheless, that exponentially increasing fraudulence is driving enough people outside of their previous comfort zones, such that "anti-Establishment, anti-status quo, and anti-globalization," political movements are relatively suddenly becoming publicly significant, while those used to be more marginal not so long ago.

The underlying issues continue to be almost exponential progress in physical science, based upon series of intellectual scientific revolutions and profound paradigms shifts, while that has NOT happened in any publicly significant ways within social science in general, and so, silly superficial notions regarding psychology and political science continue to be triumphantly able to not bother to attempt to change themselves, in order to be better reconciled with physical science. Basically, to better understand human beings and civilization living as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows requires coming to terms with the degree to which "we" are now living inside Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds, where everything is publicly presented in the most absurdly backward ways which were humanly possible to make and maintain, through being able to back up lies with violence for thousands of years.

At the present time, everything to do with political economy is based upon those kinds of psychologies and political sciences which were most socially successful by becoming the most dishonest those could possibly become. Almost nobody who is making "money" is publicly able and willing to admit and address what they were really doing, which was take personal advantage of systems based upon enforcing frauds, despite that those were becoming exponentially more fraudulent. Since "economics" is almost totally dominated by the international bankers having governments enforce their frauds, almost everything regarding the ways that the vast majority of people think about "economics" has become as absurdly backwards as possible.

Moreover, it continues to be that case that those relatively few people who begin to perceive the increasingly problematic nature of those enforced frauds becoming exponentially more fraudulent STILL continue to mostly stay INSIDE the same old-fashioned frames of reference which enabled those enforced frauds to become so socially successful in the first place. Indeed, that is what almost all of the content published on Zero Hedge continues to manifest, namely increasing awareness of the exponentially increasing apparent ANOMALIES DRIVEN BY ENFORCED FRAUDS, then resulting in some superficially correct calls for paradigm shifts, which usually never come remotely close to being sufficient.

The underlying intense paradoxes continue to be that various people continue being relatively more successful, and approved of by more other people, to the degree that they continue still be professional hypocrites, which then yet encompasses most of the political movements that pretend to be "anti-Establishment, anti-status quo, and anti-globalization." Since the biggest bullies' bullshit world views have been built into the structure of the dominate natural languages and philosophy of science, it seems to now be politically impossible to use those languages in ways which could correct the enormous errors now taken for granted in that dominate philosophy of science.

What a more genuine "anti-Establishment, anti-status quo, and anti-globalization," has to endeavour to do is change the ways that people think about political problems in much more profound ways, while attempting to do so then necessarily becomes less and less understood and/or agreed with by more and more people. Indeed, everything that Thomas Khun described in his book on The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions becomes astronomically amplified when attempting to do anything like that regarding psychology and social sciences, and especially with respect to doing anything like that regarding political economy, due to the degree to which the currently existing kinds of socially successful political economy are based on deliberately ignoring and misunderstanding human ecology as much as possible, since the social successfulness of systems based upon being able to enforce frauds must necessarily require the vast majority of people to play along with having adapted to living INSIDE ENFORCED FRAUDS, for generation after generation, in ways which developed to deliberately ignore and misunderstand the laws of nature's relationships to human beings and civilization, as much as was humanly possible to do ...

Although the laws of nature are NOT going to stop working, the laws of nature have driven Globalized Neolithic Civilization to develop in in the most psychotic ways which were humanly possible. Resolving those increasing sociopolitical psychoses, through series of psychotic breakdowns, spinning out of human control, are the ways in which the "super debt cycle," etc., are actually super spirals of debt controls, backed by death controls, spinning out of human control, because of the ways that human beings living in Globalized Neolithic Civilization have become as psychotic as they could possibly become, due to prodigious progress in physical science ending up being applied to enforce frauds, through those toroidal vortices being pumped up and UP by more and MORE energy, pumped into the potential for unprecedented social storms, in ways which were due to existing sociopolitical systems, which are automatically becoming exponentially more fraudulent, as we watch and wait to observe what will eventually happen ...

Kprime's picture

so to summarize, "thar ain't no free lunch", but if ur hungry enough just say, "I kill for a hamburger". 

I  wasn't entirely clear on one matter; do ladies still drink for free on friday night?